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Title: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: Blanco on February 12, 2014, 11:14:16 PM
 It was a nasty knock and looked to have temporarily knocked him out. The bruise looked nasty but I hope he recovers soon.

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Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: Sgt Fulham on February 12, 2014, 11:35:05 PM
Please get well soon Stek!!
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: fulhamben on February 12, 2014, 11:42:05 PM
isn't that a statutory 2 week lay off?
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: HatterDon on February 13, 2014, 02:00:14 AM
He looked very groggy leaving the pitch.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on February 13, 2014, 03:52:08 AM
Looked a nasty injury. I was surprised to see him walk off under his own power. Surprised he was allowed to actually.

That aside, great timing with the next round of FA Cup fixtures. 10 day break will hopefully give him the needed time. Been in great form.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: The Enclosurite on February 13, 2014, 08:22:25 AM
At least we've got a gap now before our next game. Fingers crossed he'll be able to recover but it certainly looked bad.  He's going to wake up with one hell of a headache this morning and a tennis ball for an eye.

Get well soon Stek.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: westcliff white on February 13, 2014, 08:33:56 AM
hopefully there is no fracture around the eye socket, if so thats his season almost over.

he is needed so please just be bruising, was a very brave save he made.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: ltd-ffc on February 13, 2014, 09:36:06 AM
he is definitely up for the fight
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: Jack Fulham on February 13, 2014, 10:03:21 AM
Nice little shiner from Suarez

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/12/article-2558098-1B6F7DBA00000578-709_634x501.jpg)

For those who have seen the replay. Was it a foul or 50/50?

Not seen much outrage on here so I guess its the latter.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: Pata on February 13, 2014, 10:24:22 AM
In my unbiased opinion from behind the goal, I thought it was a 50/50. The ball was there to be won for both players. As a (rubbish) goalkeeper myself, I'd expect to be challenged in that situation.

Hopefully, nothing worse than bruising for Stekelenburg.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: Julius Geezer on February 13, 2014, 02:36:39 PM
Suarez is a dirtbag!

He was never getting to the ball first - let alone winning it.

There's always intent where that prat's involved - he's clever like that -  and I think this is a nasty incident that will go unpunished.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: Burt on February 13, 2014, 02:39:21 PM
Ouch... Looks painful.

To me it seemed like a 50/50 situation, rather than Suarez going in late and with intent to do this.

(Said through gritted teeth)
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on February 13, 2014, 02:41:29 PM
Suarez had every right to go for that ball.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: Julius Geezer on February 13, 2014, 02:49:32 PM
I don't see how he could of made anything out of it by getting a toe on it.

When it's a tackle amongst outfield players it's different.

A goalkeeper is putting his head on the line when he's getting low like that to gather the ball.

They need protection from referees.

Stekelenburg and Fulham are lucky - it could have been much worse.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: Blanco on February 13, 2014, 04:42:34 PM
I think Suarez had the right to go for the ball.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: jmh on February 13, 2014, 06:14:28 PM
It was a 50/50, but...  does it matter?  I mean, if the situation is reversed and Suarez gets the ball first and Stek clips him (even without the kind of force that injured Stek), it's a penalty and very likely a red card.  So if Stek gets the ball first, and Suarez subsequently makes violent contact, why is there no consequence?  I'm genuinely not sure exactly what the rules are here and why.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: JDH101 on February 13, 2014, 09:23:08 PM
Quote from: jmh on February 13, 2014, 06:14:28 PM
It was a 50/50, but...  does it matter?  I mean, if the situation is reversed and Suarez gets the ball first and Stek clips him (even without the kind of force that injured Stek), it's a penalty and very likely a red card.  So if Stek gets the ball first, and Suarez subsequently makes violent contact, why is there no consequence?  I'm genuinely not sure exactly what the rules are here and why.

This is a very good point that I had never thought of before.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: Blanco on February 14, 2014, 10:34:23 AM
Quote from: jmh on February 13, 2014, 06:14:28 PM
It was a 50/50, but...  does it matter?  I mean, if the situation is reversed and Suarez gets the ball first and Stek clips him (even without the kind of force that injured Stek), it's a penalty and very likely a red card.  So if Stek gets the ball first, and Suarez subsequently makes violent contact, why is there no consequence?  I'm genuinely not sure exactly what the rules are here and why.

Good point.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: PokerMatt on February 14, 2014, 10:49:12 AM
Quote from: jmh on February 13, 2014, 06:14:28 PM
It was a 50/50, but...  does it matter?  I mean, if the situation is reversed and Suarez gets the ball first and Stek clips him (even without the kind of force that injured Stek), it's a penalty and very likely a red card.  So if Stek gets the ball first, and Suarez subsequently makes violent contact, why is there no consequence?  I'm genuinely not sure exactly what the rules are here and why.

I've always just taken it at face value when commentators say the attackers are entitled to go for the ball in those situations.

But the way you've explained this I have no argument for the other point of view. Stek won the 50/50 and paid the price for his bravery. Suarez either wins it and then gets a penalty, or gets away with being late.

A brilliant point.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: FFCAli on February 14, 2014, 11:03:53 AM
Quote from: PokerMatt on February 14, 2014, 10:49:12 AM
Quote from: jmh on February 13, 2014, 06:14:28 PM
It was a 50/50, but...  does it matter?  I mean, if the situation is reversed and Suarez gets the ball first and Stek clips him (even without the kind of force that injured Stek), it's a penalty and very likely a red card.  So if Stek gets the ball first, and Suarez subsequently makes violent contact, why is there no consequence?  I'm genuinely not sure exactly what the rules are here and why.

I've always just taken it at face value when commentators say the attackers are entitled to go for the ball in those situations.

But the way you've explained this I have no argument for the other point of view. Stek won the 50/50 and paid the price for his bravery. Suarez either wins it and then gets a penalty, or gets away with being late.

A brilliant point.
Any referees on here to answer that?
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: andyk on February 14, 2014, 12:41:05 PM
Quote from: PokerMatt on February 14, 2014, 10:49:12 AM
Quote from: jmh on February 13, 2014, 06:14:28 PM
It was a 50/50, but...  does it matter?  I mean, if the situation is reversed and Suarez gets the ball first and Stek clips him (even without the kind of force that injured Stek), it's a penalty and very likely a red card.  So if Stek gets the ball first, and Suarez subsequently makes violent contact, why is there no consequence?  I'm genuinely not sure exactly what the rules are here and why.

I've always just taken it at face value when commentators say the attackers are entitled to go for the ball in those situations.

But the way you've explained this I have no argument for the other point of view. Stek won the 50/50 and paid the price for his bravery. Suarez either wins it and then gets a penalty, or gets away with being late.

A brilliant point.

It is a good point and one I hadn't really considered before. The keeper, because he is going with his hands, is putting his head in the firing line, whereas the striker is always going in feet first. The strikers should be told if they make contact with the goalkeepers head it is dangerous play and a red card. I know this would mean making split second decisions on whether to go for it or not, but that is what the keeper does too and, as you say, if he gets it wrong it's a red and a peno.
Title: Re: Wish Maarten a speedy recovery
Post by: General on February 14, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
Come on guys, some of the remarks being made are ridiculous. Stek and Suarez are friends, played together at Ajax. There was no malicious intent to do that to stek.

Also, it is just a big black eye - it really isn't that serious. I would've thought he'll be back for the west brom game...

I'm just glad he started looking like the keeper that used to be labelled as one of the worlds best before he took the down turn at Roma and had brought into his form with us until recently.