Can't remember whether Johnny Haynes played in the 1958 World Cup finals but they being shown on BBC2 now
Johnny did play and number 7.
I was doing National Service and saw very little of the finals
I put this topic up already..
Haynes just scored a tap in.
Sorry didn't notice, oh and JH wore 10
One thing ive noticed from the matches is how brave goalies were then, no
protection hardly, and diving in at peoples feet head first..
...Haynes playing - and scoring, as well as Bobby Robson. Great to watch this, I was only four years old at the time...
Bobby was playing for WBA then, as did Derek Kevan our centre forward. It was also Billy Wrights last World Cup, our Johnny was England captain for the 1962 finals in Chile
Im loving the close up crowd shots some are terrific.
Trilby hats on, smoking pipes, eating sandwiches and drinking cuppas, much more
relaxed some of them than nowadays...Wonderful.
Is that right Pele was only 17 playing in that final.
David Luiz so called worth 50million now, what sort of money would you have to pay
for Pele if he were playing today..You Couldnt buy him?
Bert Trautmann was a prime example of how brave goalies were. That's why I will always rank Tony Macedo as our best ever goalkeeper, although I never saw Ernie Beecham, who played on with (I think) a broken jaw.
Missed it. Hopefully there will be a repeat. The 1958 WC was quite extensively televised (for the first time, I'd guess) and I remember it quite well.
England, Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland all qualified. Previously the Home International Championships were allowed as the WC qualifiers. Other nations objected that that gave UK a guaranteed place, so for 1958 they were put into separate groups, whereupon all 4 promptly qualified!
The sad thing was that by the time they kicked off in Sweden four of the players that England had used in the qualifiers had died at Munich (Byrne, Edwards, Taylor and Pegg). England drew their three group matches (including against Brazil) but lost Tom Finney to injury in the first match and Kevan wasn't really a top class striker.
They had to play-off with USSR and it was a cracking game. Peter Brabrook of Chelsea, playing his first game (Bobby Charlton didn't get a game at all) was excellent, but England went down to the only goal.
This was the start of the World's love affair with Brazilian football. And they were superb. Although the teenaged Pele understandably took the headlines, Didi and Garrincha were probably their outstanding players in that World Cup.
It was also the start of the World's love affair with Adidas. After 1958 the old, brown, toe-capped jobs just didn't cut it anymore - everybody wanted boots with three stripes on.
It also drew attention to what a great prospect John Charles was and not long after he moved to Italy
I am sure it will be on BBC I Player.
Quote from: Peabody on May 25, 2014, 10:54:16 AM
Bert Trautmann was a prime example of how brave goalies were. That's why I will always rank Tony Macedo as our best ever goalkeeper, although I never saw Ernie Beecham, who played on with (I think) a broken jaw.
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity. Playing on with a broken neck isn't brave.
Quote from: Peabody on May 25, 2014, 10:54:16 AM
Bert Trautmann was a prime example of how brave goalies were. That's why I will always rank Tony Macedo as our best ever goalkeeper, although I never saw Ernie Beecham, who played on with (I think) a broken jaw.
Thats why I chose his name, my Dads Hero Tony Was.
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 25, 2014, 11:59:21 AM
Quote from: Peabody on May 25, 2014, 10:54:16 AM
Bert Trautmann was a prime example of how brave goalies were. That's why I will always rank Tony Macedo as our best ever goalkeeper, although I never saw Ernie Beecham, who played on with (I think) a broken jaw.
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity. Playing on with a broken neck isn't brave.
Surely he didnt know it was broken..
Quote from: Macedo on May 25, 2014, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 25, 2014, 11:59:21 AM
Quote from: Peabody on May 25, 2014, 10:54:16 AM
Bert Trautmann was a prime example of how brave goalies were. That's why I will always rank Tony Macedo as our best ever goalkeeper, although I never saw Ernie Beecham, who played on with (I think) a broken jaw.
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity. Playing on with a broken neck isn't brave.
Surely he didnt know it was broken..
Of course he didn't know it was broken. That was revealed some days later.
There was a much more cavalier attitude to on-field injuries in those days. A quick rub of the 'magic sponge' would sort you out unless your leg was actually hanging off.
There was less off-field sympathy, too. I remember my Mum saying, "You'd think he'd stop rubbing his neck when he's going up to meet the Queen."
Quote from: cmg on May 25, 2014, 12:13:46 PM
Quote from: Macedo on May 25, 2014, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on May 25, 2014, 11:59:21 AM
Quote from: Peabody on May 25, 2014, 10:54:16 AM
Bert Trautmann was a prime example of how brave goalies were. That's why I will always rank Tony Macedo as our best ever goalkeeper, although I never saw Ernie Beecham, who played on with (I think) a broken jaw.
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity. Playing on with a broken neck isn't brave.
Surely he didnt know it was broken..
Of course he didn't know it was broken. That was revealed some days later.
There was a much more cavalier attitude to on-field injuries in those days. A quick rub of the 'magic sponge' would sort you out unless your leg was actually hanging off.
There was less off-field sympathy, too. I remember my Mum saying, "You'd think he'd stop rubbing his neck when he's going up to meet the Queen."
Brill, Stop rubbing your neck as you meet the queen..lol