Chihi looks like a player to my eye. Odd, though I believed him to be more of a left sided player (which he tended toward late in the game), it seemed to me that Felix deployed him up when he first came on. I thought he used his body well in a target forward like role. Good bit of skill and looks to be another free kick taker....hopefully.
Really appears to be a bit behind the others in fitness and in sharpness but he is a big body that we need in midfield and further up field. Will be anxious to see what he looks like with some playing time under his belt.
Cautiously impressed with this signing.
I agree. Was very impressed with him. Looking forward to seeing him after a few games when he gains some match fitness and is a bit sharper
Very much so, we seem to be building a front line that is showing some great promise. Adil seems to be that little bit of experience we needed to gel up front and not rely solely on Rodders to partner up Mac.
Yes, I agree. People shouting that the substitutions "sucked" I think are a little unfounded. Chihi looked quite the class act, and Eisfeld is one of Germany's exciting prospects, Arsenal fans ( my father included ) were livid that Wenger sold him off, and there is a reason for it. I think some are a little upset with Paddy Roberts not coming on, and that I can understand, but overall I do not think the substitutions were necessarily poor ones.
I like that he's got the talent to go with the size. Much bigger than I thought he'd be. Have a feeling he could give Championship defenders fits.
he was good, but yes looked a bit chubby and needs a few weeks to get his fitness up.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 30, 2014, 05:48:57 PM
he was good, but yes looked a bit chubby and needs a few weeks to get his fitness up.
Bloody fattys
Mmm must have seen something different he looked overweight and unfit was about to keel over when he went to take the corner. His control let him down several times and he didn't look to have much pace. Not for me
They where on the ropes at times think pat Roberts should have been the change.
I did notice one thing about Chihi though. When out on the right instead of crossing with his right he would always cut back and cross with his left.
I love this. We all watch the same game and come away with different opinions. I'll give me more time but I was not impressed from what I saw. Happy to be proven wrong in the long run
Like the look of him. Will be a tough nut & will do well for us.
He was and is awful
I thought he looked pretty poor but for those that saw something different I can only say that I hope you are right.
Thought he was fantastic. I see some fans are already scapegoating him on twitter because his face doesn't fit in much the same way that people did about Senderos but he didn't put a foot wrong for me.
I think a few people didn't think much of him just because he was subbed on instead of roberts. Poor bit a of criticism imo. Those people will then go on and complain about players being too young. Give a him a game or two.
for me he was strange....
was not nice on the eye at all.
I can see him being one of them players that 1 week he will glide past defender then another look non league, constantly falling over his own feet etc...
I have to say some of his runs after laying off the ball were awful though.
Funny how some think he was poor and some think he was good, be interesting to know who went to the game and who watched on a stream as you can see more at a game.
I don't want to be harsh on him as it was his first game and never easy coming on as a sub in your first game .
Personally I thought his first touch was shocking but he seemed to get away with it a lot.
Given a run of games I think he could be decent but I'd still rather kaca or George Williams get a run of games
Quote from: SouthfieldWhite on August 30, 2014, 08:41:48 PM
Funny how some think he was poor and some think he was good, be interesting to know who went to the game and who watched on a stream as you can see more at a game.
I don't want to be harsh on him as it was his first game and never easy coming on as a sub in your first game .
Personally I thought his first touch was shocking but he seemed to get away with it a lot.
Given a run of games I think he could be decent but I'd still rather kaca or George Williams get a run of games
I was there and I completely agree with what you said
was also there.... I think on tv he would have come across better than in person
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 30, 2014, 06:19:25 PM
I did notice one thing about Chihi though. When out on the right instead of crossing with his right he would always cut back and cross with his left.
Exactly.
Seems to be only left-footed and as a result he looked a little one-dimensional to me.
Still, early days.
Lets give him some game time to see.
btw, I was at the game
I don't know how people can say he looks good already!
From the Hammersmith End he looked like a poor mans Hulk!
His crossing was dire, his ability to beat a man wasn't there, one footed and gave the ball away when a bunch of our players were waiting in the box!
With time he might come good - I don't want to slag him off too much! - but on today's showing, he looks another average signing.
I am not sure I understand anything much about some posters. I have spent all afternoon at craven cottage watching an excellent game but the substitutions showed felix has not the first idea what he is about.
Chihi was poor and in fact so poor that fabio who had to sit and mind david in the second half until the substitution was suddenly all the room he needed to get forward and hassle us, because Chihi was no danger.
Quote from: Humbled on August 30, 2014, 08:25:41 PM
for me he was strange....
was not nice on the eye at all.
I can see him being one of them players that 1 week he will glide past defender then another look non league, constantly falling over his own feet etc...
I have to say some of his runs after laying off the ball were awful though.
This is pedantic but is a personal irritation...it is one of "those players" not "them players". Thanks in advance.
I was there and his control was awful. I'm not sure what positives some people saw but that's the beauty of the game I suppose.
Quote from: GrahamG on August 30, 2014, 09:39:28 PM
I was there and his control was awful. I'm not sure what positives some people saw but that's the beauty of the game I suppose.
actually it isn't one of the beauties of the game. i agree with youhis first touch was poor and that was a fact for anybody to see, he was also slow and looked rather unfit. I would have kept david on the field and he looked mighty upset to be withdrawn for no good reason.
I thought David looked very good in the first half (free kicks aside) but he was undoubtedly less influential in the 2nd and I believe he was tiring. I didn't mind him being replaced but not by Chihi.
Looked overweight, rusty and limited on TV.
Quote from: GrahamG on August 30, 2014, 10:05:11 PM
I thought David looked very good in the first half (free kicks aside) but he was undoubtedly less influential in the 2nd and I believe he was tiring. I didn't mind him being replaced but not by Chihi.
whilst he was less inflluential in the 2nd half, david was keeing fabio pinned down at the back. when he went off, fabio had free reign down the left wing, the change was poor.
Was I watching the same game today? He looked terrible, a clumsy fat lump who had one lucky dribble into the box with about 8 ricochets off of defenders and luckily back into his path. Looked over weight and had a very poor first touch. Reminded me of shefki kuqi which isnt a compliment. Ill give him time before branding him a disaster but if its too early to judge him negatively, then based on what I saw its even crazier.to suggest hes a good signing.
I was fascinated by how massive he is, I think hes a handy sub because of his size( our squad is very small) but his ability looks limited to say the least. Our other trialists looking for clubs were fotheringham and fazlic, on that basis alone I wouldnt get too excited. Roberts is better
He was terrible. This must be trolling.
He looks massive, first touch is terrible and has no pace.
I guess that's a positive in some fans minds...
I thought he looked awkward and his first touch was poor, especially for someone who has played so many games in the bundesliga. Not a complete write off like Fotheringham, possibly an option from the bench but 'd rather have LVC a sub for David to solidy midfield or G Williams as a Wide player to reinforce the attack.
That's it guys, slag him off on his first game for us. FFS At least give him a few matches before trying to destroy him. It's never enough is it? It was the guys first game for the club. How many of you would have settled for the draw before yesterdays game? Oh yes none of you, because nothing is ever good enough.
Quote from: blingo on August 31, 2014, 08:38:58 AM
That's it guys, slag him off on his first game for us. FFS At least give him a few matches before trying to destroy him. It's never enough is it? It was the guys first game for the club. How many of you would have settled for the draw before yesterdays game? Oh yes none of you, because nothing is ever good enough.
you are right but it was the wrong substitution at the wrong time and it is very frustrating.
however he doesn't really look match fit but the highlits on BBC did show he did a couple of good things too so maybe we can look forward to better..
Quote from: blingo on August 31, 2014, 08:38:58 AM
That's it guys, slag him off on his first game for us. FFS At least give him a few matches before trying to destroy him. It's never enough is it? It was the guys first game for the club. How many of you would have settled for the draw before yesterdays game? Oh yes none of you, because nothing is ever good enough.
Someone started a topic saying he was a good signing and many observed something completely different that's football.
Unfortunately he was another Felix experiment. Felix clearly wanted to see how he would perform rather then put pat on to commit an extremely dodgy fabio and I fancy win the game. Yes I would have taken a draw but a win was there for the taking
I thought he did OK not brilliant but OK and at least he TRIED. He is one of ours at least give the guy a fair chance to prove himself.
I thought he did well keeping possession -looked skilful and hard working.
Quote from: nose on August 31, 2014, 08:46:45 AM
Quote from: blingo on August 31, 2014, 08:38:58 AM
That's it guys, slag him off on his first game for us. FFS At least give him a few matches before trying to destroy him. It's never enough is it? It was the guys first game for the club. How many of you would have settled for the draw before yesterdays game? Oh yes none of you, because nothing is ever good enough.
you are right but it was the wrong substitution at the wrong time and it is very frustrating.
however he doesn't really look match fit but the highlits on BBC did show he did a couple of good things too so maybe we can look forward to better..
To be fair to Chihi it's a new season and it was was his debut so he's going to be a little rusty. He replaced Caley, who hadn't had the best of games against a strong defender. He paired well with Voser who hasn't had much game time either. He seems a smart player, created space and forced a defender to make a needless challenge which got us a free kick close to goal. Came in on a free and is the right side of thirty.
Yesterday we saw a much better Fulham and at last players starting to shot at goal. Maybe from too far, maybe when there were players in better positions and some that ended up in the top of the Hammy but they felt confident they had a chance and that the Manager wasn't going to chew them out over it afterwards.
For me, Emerson Hyndman was absolutely brilliant yesterday. I would of taken a point yesterday before the game. Considering past form. The lads really pressed for a winner in the closing stages and Cardiff looked beat. Another few minutes ? Who knows.
To me he appeared to lack match fitness - He also looked as fat as me - But he needs to be given time before the fans make their minds up about him IMO
Quote from: blingo on August 31, 2014, 08:38:58 AM
That's it guys, slag him off on his first game for us. FFS At least give him a few matches before trying to destroy him. It's never enough is it? It was the guys first game for the club. How many of you would have settled for the draw before yesterdays game? Oh yes none of you, because nothing is ever good enough.
I think it is fair to respond to the original post? I watched the game on TV an thought he tried a few runs but that his final ball was poor and that he wasted possession. Will he improve? Almost certainly with training and match conditioning. Is he good enough? Not sure. That is not slagging him off, just being honest.
Quote from: Twig on August 31, 2014, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: blingo on August 31, 2014, 08:38:58 AM
That's it guys, slag him off on his first game for us. FFS At least give him a few matches before trying to destroy him. It's never enough is it? It was the guys first game for the club. How many of you would have settled for the draw before yesterdays game? Oh yes none of you, because nothing is ever good enough.
I think it is fair to respond to the original post? I watched the game on TV an thought he tried a few runs but that his final ball was poor and that he wasted possession. Will he improve? Almost certainly with training and match conditioning. Is he good enough? Not sure. That is not slagging him off, just being honest.
I think theres a big difference between starting a post to slate chihi and write him off instantly and responding to a thread titled 'chihi looks to be a good signing'.
Im sorry but if its unfair to criticise him then its certainly too premature to praise him. He looked over weight, slow and had a poor touch. His power seemed to be his asset. We are entitiled to give an assessment when a thread is made, id say the title of the thread is just as ridiculous as writing him off. He werent a trialist in july becsuse he was a sought after player, bargain basement but fingers crossed he can get better and be a decent squad player
I do not understand how Maggath can constantly bang on about unfit players and then play Chihi who even his admirers seem to think is not match fit. Just demonstrates that his verbal is purely against people that he has not signed.
Quote from: VamosFFC on August 30, 2014, 06:19:25 PM
I did notice one thing about Chihi though. When out on the right instead of crossing with his right he would always cut back and cross with his left.
Pluses - very direct, physically very robust, defenders 'bounced off him,' got a couple of good crosses into the area between the penalty spot and 6 yard area.
Negatives - very, very left footed, did not have the best of first touches.Pace not blindingly fast!
Not sure about - fitness (might not be a 90 minute player), insufficient time to evaluate his defensive value when the opposition have the ball.
In summary I thought a promising debut but may be the type of player who opposition defenses might 'sus out' eventually.
Quote from: NorfolkJim on August 31, 2014, 01:27:10 PM
To me he appeared to lack match fitness - He also looked as fat as me - But he needs to be given time before the fans make their minds up about him IMO
Which is very puzzling since he went through the whole of pre-season with us, playing as a sub in the first friendly against East Fife.
He may pan out to be a good player for us but still raises another question mark against Felix, a surprising one given his rep of treating all players badly. A manager cannot apply different standards to players if he wants to create a united squad. Chi hi did look short of fitness, I wonder how McCormack feels after being publicly called out on his fitness and having to lose a stone from lasts seasons playing weight?
When you start a thread about a player on any club MB you are going to get different views,full stop.me I BELIEVE he needs more games but struck me as a potential powerhouse of a player,which in this league come the wnter a big plus!