Why do so many Managers sit in the dug out when the view is so awful. The are below the level of the players when sitting. I didn't realise how bad the view was until I attended the Picnic on the pitch event and had my picture taken sitting in Kits Seat. Surely a seat in the stand would give a far better perspective. And with modern technology they could be in constant contact anyway
Because they can hide away from any stick from the fans.
Make a note of all the managers that sit in the dug out, and compare it to the ones who stand in the technical area most of the time, and let me know your observations, you may see a common denominator, a pattern, and a simple explanation, but there is a reason for everything.
Wenger, Mourinho, Ferguson & many others sit virtually all the time in their dug outs. Good to see that Kit was stood in the technical area as was Hughton. Neither was screaming, waving their arms as Russel Slade does.
It's true, so you wont get much of an arguement from me. I think the balance is that despite it being better view wise up in the stands, it's harder to be a physical presence and a manager of what goes on from there and I think there's probably a disconnect and a feeling that the value is greater if the manager is on the sidelines barking orders and being a visual/physical and verbal presence instead of a strategic one.
Ferguson, Sam Allardyce and others do/did sit up in the stands quite a bit though... so some managers do see value and at times do half on the touch line and half in the stands.
Perhaps it's what happens in particular when a manager feels either insecure about his tactics, feels it will be a close game and that extra vantage point will be important or perhaps the particular stadiums dugouts are atrociously low... It could be for a number of reasons.
Quote from: grandad on August 17, 2015, 11:25:19 AM
Wenger, Mourinho, Ferguson & many others sit virtually all the time in their dug outs. Good to see that Kit was stood in the technical area as was Hughton. Neither was screaming, waving their arms as Russel Slade does.
Yes that's right, and another manager that waves his arms about like a windmill, is that Rotherham manager Steve somebody , I can't remember his name , mind you I can't remember what I had for breakfast either.
Quote from: General on August 17, 2015, 11:34:21 AM
It's true, so you wont get much of an arguement from me. I think the balance is that despite it being better view wise up in the stands, it's harder to be a physical presence and a manager of what goes on from there and I think there's probably a disconnect and a feeling that the value is greater if the manager is on the sidelines barking orders and being a visual/physical and verbal presence instead of a strategic one.
Ferguson, Sam Allardyce and others do/did sit up in the stands quite a bit though... so some managers do see value and at times do half on the touch line and half in the stands.
Perhaps it's what happens in particular when a manager feels either insecure about his tactics, feels it will be a close game and that extra vantage point will be important or perhaps the particular stadiums dugouts are atrociously low... It could be for a number of reasons.
Yes I agree with you. Remember Raphael Benitez when he managed Chelsea, the fans gave him Dogs abuse, but he would not shy away in the Dug out, he stood in the technical area in defiance, good for him, he showed strength of Character, and confidence in himself, I admired him for that.
Why do so many managers wear pink boots?
Oops, wrong thread ;)
Quote from: grandad on August 17, 2015, 11:25:19 AM
Wenger, Mourinho, Ferguson & many others sit virtually all the time in their dug outs. Good to see that Kit was stood in the technical area as was Hughton. Neither was screaming, waving their arms as Russel Slade does.
In fairness though, Ferguson addressed the problem when he got to Old Trafford and had the dugouts made so that they were raised and could get a better view
At that level most of the work is done on the training ground in preparation and shouldn't need too much tweaking. OK we all know it does but coaches will see little bits, as will the captain.
Guardiola for instance would play out all sorts of scenarios about how the believed the game would go and would have a plan B,C and D although he rarely needed them.
these guys know a lot more about the game than us in the stands (I know its hard to believe sometimes - mentioning no names!!) but they probably see more sitting in the dug out than we do in our lofty positions
A manager who wore pink boots would definitely tell you something about how he wanted his team to play !
I have raised this before (pun genuinely unintended!). I hate a low-down view myself as you get no idea of what's going on. It's vaguely akin to watching a chess match from under the table and trying to determine the next move.
These days, they can get the "T.V. view" on video and thus analyse the match properly after the event but, obviously, too late to affect the result.
Did he wear Pink shoes as well?