First of all, words like petrol aren't derogatory, they rhyme (which a lot of UK, particularly London slang) is all about
ie: Petrol tank = Yank
Where as a 'petrol tanker' is rude as tanker rhymes with................
Bubble = bubble and squeak - Greek (not defamatory)
Seemingly expressions like "apples and pears" = stairs
"skin and blister" = sister
Aren't really used today except in internet A-Z's of London slang.
Proper Londoners would say......
"OI, geezer bloke fancy a trip to the boozer for some sherbets"
"Yeh, John maybe pull some Richards or Sharons"
"Yeh and take 'em to blag some scrant at the ruby house"
"Alrighty, then maybe we can jass em back to my gaff for some Rogering"
"Waddya say" ?
"I can't yet GJ is wording on the match, but after OK" ?
Especially geezers who've knocked about with pikey boffins
My favorite London pub -- from about 25 years ago -- Brahms and Lizst
Just to add that our theoretical cockney would not say "fancy a trip to the boozer?" he would say "fancy a trip to the battle cruiser" or "fancy a trip to the rubba dub"
I always though Septic Tank was Yank.
I do so wish my missus would take it up the Gary Glitter. But that's a different story.
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It's not spoken like that anymore,only one
word is used..eg,He is a septic, or,my Bleedin
Gregory is stiff this morning.
I thought it was Septic.
I used to work with a Millwall fan (nice guy, decent family man) who used this stuff and I used to get it deliberately wrong when talking to him. e.g. I'd suggest that he took a boracic rather than walk or I was a bit sherbet as it was nearly pay-day. He confused me when he said "christ I've dropped it on the Rory!". So I thinks "Rory Underwood...?" "no, Rory Moore - floor!". Who the hell is Rory Moore?
I only use Septic and Richard, usually "great steaming Richard".
Quote from: HatterDon on January 13, 2016, 04:12:51 AM
My favorite London pub -- from about 25 years ago -- Brahms and Lizst
There's also one in Tunbridge Wells, of all places.
Years ago I had a girlfriend that in her words used to get the "petrol" - as in petrol pump - hump.
I always though it was Septic tank...
It was Septic
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2016, 08:20:50 AM
It's not spoken like that anymore,only one
word is used..eg,He is a septic, or,my Bleedin
Gregory is stiff this morning.
Quite right, I believe that was the reason behind it.
Quote from: Barry White on January 13, 2016, 11:25:17 AM
I always though it was Septic tank...
Yep, or Seppo (same thing)
I had a mate who said 'Sandy' as in 'Sandy McNab' for a taxi cab. Anyone have any idea who Sandy McNab is or was?
Roger I always used petrols meaning petrol caps for another race - I'm sure you can work it out.
An early contender for the "most random thread of the year 2016" surely?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 13, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Were you Elephants Trunk when you left the Rub a Dub last night, or Tree Trunk. :beer:
Is there a slang for sober, I cant think of one !
Quote from: CorkCity on January 13, 2016, 01:45:56 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 13, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Were you Elephants Trunk when you left the Rub a Dub last night, or Tree Trunk. :beer:
Is there a slang for sober, I cant think of one !
"boracic"
Quote from: Logicalman on January 13, 2016, 02:02:08 PM
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 13, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Were you Elephants Trunk when you left the Rub a Dub last night, or Tree Trunk. :beer:
Is there a slang for sober, I cant think of one !
"boracic"
That's skint mate.
As in Boracic mint. Doubt v much there is one for sober. Seems a bit pointless.
Quote from: Logicalman on January 13, 2016, 11:54:58 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2016, 08:20:50 AM
It's not spoken like that anymore,only one
word is used..eg,He is a septic, or,my Bleedin
Gregory is stiff this morning.
Quite right, I believe that was the reason behind it.
Quote from: Barry White on January 13, 2016, 11:25:17 AM
I always though it was Septic tank...
Yep, or Seppo (same thing)
I bow to greater knowledge, it's just an expression I've always used :0)
In my teens I did mix with the local fairground boys (The Irwins and Otts) who 'wintered' in Feltham
and maybe picked up some dicky dickies and expressions.
Wacko the diddle oh
Rinky Dinky deye
Peaopy me old chav
Here's an interesting piece I dug up, although internally a Yankee is generally a Confederate term for people from the New England states. Someone called a Yankee by a person from countries outside the US refers to anyone in the US
Most linguists look to Dutch sources, noting the extensive interaction between the colonial Dutch in New Netherland (now largely New York, New Jersey, Delaware, and western Connecticut) and the colonial English in New England (Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and eastern Connecticut). The Dutch given names Jan ("John") and Kees ("Cornelius") were and still are common and the two sometimes are combined in a single name, e.g., Jan Kees de Jager. The word Yankee is a variation that could have referred to the Dutch Americans.[7] However, as Americans of Dutch descent rejected the term as being derogatory, Americans in New England embraced it and adopted it for themselves.
Michael Quinion and Patrick Hanks argue that the term refers to the Dutch girl's name Janneke[9] or Janke,[10] which – owing to the Dutch pronunciation of J as the English Y – would be Anglicized as "Yankee". Quinion and Hanks posit it was "used as a nickname for a Dutch-speaking American in colonial times" and could have grown to include non-Dutch colonists as well.[9]
H. L. Mencken derived it from the slur "John Cheese", applied by the English colonists to the Dutch – "Here comes a John Cheese" owing to the importance of their dairy cultivation, which introduced the black-and-white dairy cow from Friesland and North Holland to America in the mid-1600s. The modern Dutch for John Cheese is Jan Kaas but this would be spoken Jan Kees in some dialects.
To put this into a Fulham perspective (it probably needs tweaking by some petrols/septics)
Clint Dempsey Could only be called a Yankee by someone outside of the US
Carlos Bocanegra - Is Californian, Probably a Yankee as the state was divided. (South had Confederate leanings)
Eddie Lewis - Same as Carlos Bocanegra
Luca de la Torre - Same as the 2 Californians above.
Brian McBride - Could be considered a Yankee although Illinois is a bit too far east
Emerson Hyndman - Definitely a Yankee
Brede Hangerland - Definately a Yankee
Kasey Keller - From Washington State - Not really involved in Civil War
Marcus Hahneman - Our second goalie from Washington State
Tim Ream - Would be an 'inbetweener' Missouri had it's 'star on both flags' and separate governments representing both sides.
Eddie Johnson - Would be a Yankee (from Florida)
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 13, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Were you Elephants Trunk when you left the Rub a Dub last night, or Tree Trunk. :beer:
Is there a slang for sober, I cant think of one !
"boracic"
That's skint mate.
That's why he's sober, can't afford to buy a drink :0)
Your "knowledge" of American geography continues to supply me with great joy.
1. Florida = yank?
2. McBride is from the state Lincoln was residing in when elected president, so -- yeah, I think they were involved.
3. Hangeland was born in Houston, TX -- NOT a yank
Oh, and by the way, I have no idea what book you got the fact that Missouri had both a Confederate and Union government during the war, but you need to burn it right away.
don't get offended, only taking the gypsy
Quote from: Twig on January 13, 2016, 02:32:24 PM
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 13, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Were you Elephants Trunk when you left the Rub a Dub last night, or Tree Trunk. :beer:
Is there a slang for sober, I cant think of one !
"boracic"
That's skint mate.
As in Boracic mint. Doubt v much there is one for sober. Seems a bit pointless.
It's boracic lint = skint, a lot of the so called cockneyn slang given on the internet is made up and not original, ie Hank Marvin, having a Ruby all modern tosh, thought you would like this info while I am sat on my Arris at the keyboard
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 13, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Were you Elephants Trunk when you left the Rub a Dub last night, or Tree Trunk. :beer:
Is there a slang for sober, I cant think of one !
"boracic"
That's skint mate.
As in Boracic mint. Doubt v much there is one for sober. Seems a bit pointless.
It's boracic lint = skint, a lot of the so called cockneyn slang given on the internet is made up and not original, ie Hank Marvin, having a Ruby all modern tosh, thought you would like this info while I am sat on my Arris at the keyboard
I'm sitting on my Reggie at the moment. It's warm in this room, so no chance of any Farmers.
Talking of being skint
On Carey Street. Euphemism for being bankrupt or in debt.
This phrase originates from the London street where the UK bankruptcy court used to be located. The court moved to Carey Street in the 1840s but the phrase didn't emerge as a synonym for bankrupt until much later.
Things I remember hearing regularly -
Having a Jimmy-Jimmy Riddle.
A Gypsy's-Gypsy's Kiss.
A Richard -Richard the Third.
Bob Hope - an illicit substance.
Sorts/salts -women.
Quote from: Twig on January 13, 2016, 02:32:24 PM
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 13, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Were you Elephants Trunk when you left the Rub a Dub last night, or Tree Trunk. :beer:
Is there a slang for sober, I cant think of one !
"boracic"
That's skint mate.
As in Boracic mint. Doubt v much there is one for sober. Seems a bit pointless.
.No boracic lint not mint
Having an Eartha Kitt. poo
Quote from: HatterDon on January 13, 2016, 05:23:52 PM
Your "knowledge" of American geography continues to supply me with great joy.
1. Florida = yank?
2. McBride is from the state Lincoln was residing in when elected president, so -- yeah, I think they were involved.
3. Hangeland was born in Houston, TX -- NOT a yank
Oh, and by the way, I have no idea what book you got the fact that Missouri had both a Confederate and Union government during the war, but you need to burn it right away.
don't get offended, only taking the gypsy
Quote from: HatterDon on January 13, 2016, 05:23:52 PM
Your "knowledge" of American geography continues to supply me with great joy.
1. Florida = yank?
2. McBride is from the state Lincoln was residing in when elected president, so -- yeah, I think they were involved.
3. Hangeland was born in Houston, TX -- NOT a yank
Oh, and by the way, I have no idea what book you got the fact that Missouri had both a Confederate and Union government during the war, but you need to burn it right away.
don't get offended, only taking the gypsy
Oh dear Don you really are a sucker.
I absolutely knew you'd be lurking waiting to pounce so spot the deliberate, or not so deliberate mistakes
Obviously Johnson was a miss-type :0)
Hangerland was born in Texas but was still in nappies/diapers when he left.
He is a Viking therefore people outside of the US would consider him a Yank or maybe not.
Brian McBride - I can't see where I put
that Illinois weren't involved in the Civil War.What I said was:
Could be considered a Yankee although Illinois is a bit too far east (which should of course have read West)
This is effectively saying that Illinois was involved however..............
I believe there is a difference between a Unionist State and a Yankee State.
The Yankee states were the New England States (Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire and Rhode Island) and did not include Illinois
You missed out on Hyndman. anyone else ?
Missouri in the American Civil War In the American Civil War, Missouri was a border state that sent men, armies, generals, and supplies to both opposing sides, had its star on both flags,
had separate governments representing each side, and endured a neighbor-against-neighbor intrastate war within the larger national war.
Several states had Dual governments: Missouri, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee but most surprisingly Virginia who still are considered the capital of the Confederacy.
Next
Be careful Don, you know I'm an uneducated loony:0)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 13, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Were you Elephants Trunk when you left the Rub a Dub last night, or Tree Trunk. :beer:
No, just a bit Brahms.
Domprague, It's Andy McNab not Sandy and he is ex SAS who now writes books about his experiences, so therefore I would think that's a modern slang word, never heard it before.
Quote from: Dr Know on January 13, 2016, 06:38:29 PM
Having an Eartha Kitt. poo
You could add "having a Pony and Trap" to that
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Quote from: Dr Know on January 13, 2016, 06:38:29 PM
Having an Eartha Kitt. poo
You could add "having a Pony and Trap" to that
Or another meaning for Richard
A pony is also 25 pounds
Ah, thanks for that. I must have misheard him. Mind you, I was always elephant's when I was with him so no surprise.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 13, 2016, 07:27:56 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 13, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Were you Elephants Trunk when you left the Rub a Dub last night, or Tree Trunk. :beer:
No, just a bit Brahms.
Domprague, It's Andy McNab not Sandy and he is ex SAS who now writes books about his experiences, so therefore I would think that's a modern slang word, never heard it before.
Roger,
Quite correct about the Dutch beginnings for the term Yankee, though there is some dispute as to the actual sources, as it had been documented as far back as 1684 for a particular Dutch Pirate, in the following ways:
The Calendar of State Papers, Colonial Series, an archive of British government documents, has this from 1683: They sailed from Bonaco..; chief commanders, Vanhorn, Laurens, and Yankey Duch.
And from 1684: A sloop...unlawfully seized by Captain Yankey.
And from 1687: Captains John Williams (Yankey) and Jacob Everson (Jacob).
By the mid 18th Century is was adopted, as you mention, by the residents of New England.
There are other claims that it was derived from an indian word (1841) or from a slave name.
I guess we'll never really know now!
J.Arthur
Just eating Lily and jockeys
Lillian Gish
Jockeys Whips
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on January 13, 2016, 12:54:52 PM
An early contender for the "most random thread of the year 2016" surely?
Only if someone comes up with rhyming slang for pond sludge.
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Quote from: Wimbledon_White on January 13, 2016, 12:54:52 PM
An early contender for the "most random thread of the year 2016" surely?
Only if someone comes up with rhyming slang for pond sludge.
Almond Fudge
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 13, 2016, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: Dr Know on January 13, 2016, 06:38:29 PM
Having an Eartha Kitt. poo
You could add "having a Pony and Trap" to that
For Americans, I prefer the more appropriate phrase for ordure - "going for a Donald....."
Nogood "trump that if you can, isit" Boyo
Professional Eastender, Danny Dyer, is always throwing them around the Queen Vic. I get most of them, but " you're doing my swede in", presumably for " doing my head in" has passed me by. Anyone know where it comes from, or did he make it up?
Berkley Hunt - shortened to berk - C***
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on January 14, 2016, 08:59:08 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 13, 2016, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: Dr Know on January 13, 2016, 06:38:29 PM
Having an Eartha Kitt. poo
You could add "having a Pony and Trap" to that
For Americans, I prefer the more appropriate phrase for ordure - "going for a Donald....."
Nogood "trump that if you can, isit" Boyo
Going for a humpty
There is a Donald Duck you know boyo
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Quote from: NogoodBoyo on January 14, 2016, 08:59:08 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 13, 2016, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: Dr Know on January 13, 2016, 06:38:29 PM
Having an Eartha Kitt. poo
You could add "having a Pony and Trap" to that
For Americans, I prefer the more appropriate phrase for ordure - "going for a Donald....."
Nogood "trump that if you can, isit" Boyo
Going for a humpty
There is a Donald Duck you know boyo
As I see it, Mr Duck is a harmless cartoon character who's footing the bill for Disney. Mr. Trump (or The Donald) is all too real - unfortunately!
Nogood "if it quacks it's a duck; if it's a blowhard, dump the trump, isit" Boyo
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Quote from: NogoodBoyo on January 14, 2016, 08:59:08 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 13, 2016, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: Dr Know on January 13, 2016, 06:38:29 PM
Having an Eartha Kitt. poo
You could add "having a Pony and Trap" to that
For Americans, I prefer the more appropriate phrase for ordure - "going for a Donald....."
Nogood "trump that if you can, isit" Boyo
Going for a humpty
There is a Donald Duck you know boyo
As I see it, Mr Duck is a harmless cartoon character who's footing the bill for Disney. Mr. Trump (or The Donald) is all too real - unfortunately!
Nogood "if it quacks it's a duck; if it's a blowhard, dump the trump, isit" Boyo
Don't forget
"A nice pair of Bristol's or Cardiff's"
I am feeling Cream Crackered, so I am off to get some Bo Peep.
I overheard a chap at Heathrow Airport say that he was "Off to get a Buddy"...........which was a new one to me ....a "Buddy Holly"......trolley for his baggage...