Looking at the damage on the M20 yesterday and still closed today I was wondering who picks up the tab for all the work demolishing the bridge and probably rebuilding it. If that motorist stayed with the same company all his life I doubt that he would ever pay enough in insurance premiums to even tickle the cost. But I guess your and my insurance will go up and cover it
- More than half of fatal accidents on motorways involve HGVs even though HGVs make up less than 10% of the total traffic.
- MoT checks show that 2/3 of foreign HGVs are overloaded.
- Ordinary wear and tear road damage from the heaviest HGVs is 150,000 times higher than that from the average car.
- On average a gallon of fuel will move a
tonne of goods 246 miles on the railway,
but only 88 miles by road.
Surely you mean the bridge that collapsed! the way the media distort facts is disgraceful, as you correctly said, a lorry brought a bridge down, that was a fact and tue, the bridge did not collapse
Quote from: epsomraver on August 28, 2016, 04:55:38 PM
Surely you mean the bridge that collapsed! the way the media distort facts is disgraceful, as you correctly said, a lorry brought a bridge down, that was a fact and tue, the bridge did not collapse
Absolutely.
For the first several hours I was thinking structural failure. Much later it emerged that somebody had rammed an artic into it - which would tend to do the trick.
It is a complicated business, although I always find when driving the best technique for bridges is - Aim for the spacey bit: Avoid the solid bit. :54:
Quote from: cmg on August 28, 2016, 05:30:43 PM
Quote from: epsomraver on August 28, 2016, 04:55:38 PM
Surely you mean the bridge that collapsed! the way the media distort facts is disgraceful, as you correctly said, a lorry brought a bridge down, that was a fact and tue, the bridge did not collapse
Absolutely.
For the first several hours I was thinking structural failure. Much later it emerged that somebody had rammed an artic into it - which would tend to do the trick.
It is a complicated business, although I always find when driving the best technique for bridges is - Aim for the spacey bit: Avoid the solid bit. :54:
It was odd, the lorry was carrying a JCB. This hit the bridge, which caused it to collapse. The JCB was almost undamaged? Build them well in Doncaster don't they!
Statistically speaking the bridge wasn't there
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on August 28, 2016, 06:30:57 PM
Statistically speaking the bridge wasn't there
...and now it's really not there.
You see, this stuff works. Kline in!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 28, 2016, 07:40:19 PM
Assuming this Heavy Goods Vehicle and Plant was a Wide Load with a Height Restriction. It should not have been in the Motorway in the first place.
In the second place, Any vehicle of that nature, has to have its route plotted, and submitted to the Local Constabulary and the Council to determine a risk assessment, and whether it needs a Police Escort, and generally they travel at night when it's quieter.
So initial observations tell me somebody is for the High Jump, the Long Jump, and Forest Gump.
something isnt right here. its not a wide load as the jcb is inside the lorry. and as for height. all bridges have to be a set height, yet the lorry clearly went under the sign bridge a couple of hundred yards back. plus the bridge that fell down has netting on it, indicating some sort of works were taking/ about to happen on it. add to that the jcb is still sitting perfectly on the lorry. i know the chains that they hold them down with are big, but they are not that big. you would expect the jcb to have lost some of its alignment, or even the drive motor spindle snap to allow the jib to have swivelled slightly
Don't talk to me about bridge damage!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what happened in my village. It caused chaos for 9 months.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33143889 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33143889)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 28, 2016, 08:07:17 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 28, 2016, 08:03:28 PM
Don't talk to me about bridge damage!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what happened in my village. It caused chaos for 9 months.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33143889 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33143889)
Ok if you insist, I will not talk to you about bridge damage, I will talk to Simon and Garfunkle who sung Bridge over troubled water.
Plus Wayne Bridge may have to make some statement regarding other issues when he was transferred from next door to Man City. Plus who was responsible for the destruction of the Bridge Over the River Kwai. Was it Jack Hawkins, William Holden, Alec Guiness, or King Rat.
Also the Americans bought London Bridge, thinking it was Tower Bridge. That has to be the worst mistake since, Abraham Lincoln said to his wife, " ime fed up kicking around the house, let's go take in a show."
and the worst idea since Olaf the Hairy, warrior King of the Vikings, ordered 80,000 War Helmets with the horns sticking out on the inside.
Thanks Woolly, i knew i could rely on you, lol
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 28, 2016, 08:22:54 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 28, 2016, 08:20:28 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 28, 2016, 08:07:17 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 28, 2016, 08:03:28 PM
Don't talk to me about bridge damage!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what happened in my village. It caused chaos for 9 months.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33143889 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33143889)
Ok if you insist, I will not talk to you about bridge damage, I will talk to Simon and Garfunkle who sung Bridge over troubled water.
Plus Wayne Bridge may have to make some statement regarding other issues when he was transferred from next door to Man City. Plus who was responsible for the destruction of the Bridge Over the River Kwai. Was it Jack Hawkins, William Holden, Alec Guiness, or King Rat.
Also the Americans bought London Bridge, thinking it was Tower Bridge. That has to be the worst mistake since, Abraham Lincoln said to his wife, " ime fed up kicking around the house, let's go take in a show."
and the worst idea since Olaf the Hairy, warrior King of the Vikings, ordered 80,000 War Helmets with the horns sticking out on the inside.
Thanks Woolly, i knew i could rely on you, lol
My pleasure sir, said the Actress to the Bishop.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 28, 2016, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 28, 2016, 08:26:17 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 28, 2016, 08:22:54 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 28, 2016, 08:20:28 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 28, 2016, 08:07:17 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 28, 2016, 08:03:28 PM
Don't talk to me about bridge damage!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what happened in my village. It caused chaos for 9 months.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33143889 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33143889)
Ok if you insist, I will not talk to you about bridge damage, I will talk to Simon and Garfunkle who sung Bridge over troubled water.
Plus Wayne Bridge may have to make some statement regarding other issues when he was transferred from next door to Man City. Plus who was responsible for the destruction of the Bridge Over the River Kwai. Was it Jack Hawkins, William Holden, Alec Guiness, or King Rat.
Also the Americans bought London Bridge, thinking it was Tower Bridge. That has to be the worst mistake since, Abraham Lincoln said to his wife, " ime fed up kicking around the house, let's go take in a show."
and the worst idea since Olaf the Hairy, warrior King of the Vikings, ordered 80,000 War Helmets with the horns sticking out on the inside.
Thanks Woolly, i knew i could rely on you, lol
My pleasure sir, said the Actress to the Bishop.
There is a notorious bridge in Swindon near where I work . The number of times lorries hit it is amazing. White House bridge it's called, luckily hasn't collapsed yet, good job as main line London train goes over it.
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 28, 2016, 08:26:18 PM
Don't get me started on a Bridge too Far. Or the Bridges of Maddison County. Or Bridget Bardot even, and I haven't even covered the One Armed Man yet, who is on the run from the Fugitive Richard Kimble.
I remember seeing Bridget Bardot in Rhodes in 1975 when she owned a Boutique in the Town of Rhodes and I played Bridge with her.
I would play bridge with her if I had a good hand