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Title: Gutted !
Post by: sussexwhite on March 14, 2017, 09:43:39 PM
Never really seemed on it tonight.....but anyone else think Martin could have tried a bit more, especially in the build up to their first equaliser ?
Still a lot better to this time last season.....onwards and upwards.

COYWs ! 049:gif
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: valdeingruo on March 14, 2017, 09:47:42 PM
Its a rather nice feeling when we can look on this and be disappointed. When was the last time a draw felt like a loss. Its hard to take after the Newcastle match but we have ended up with the same amount of points most of us would have been happy with. Sixth spot is only a point away. We are still very much in this.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: andyk on March 14, 2017, 09:47:49 PM
Lots of games, it's hard to keep the intensity going for every minute of every game.
Back on it, come Saturday.

Blackburn deserved that point, by the sounds of it. Sometimes you just gotta say "well  done"
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: Nick Bateman on March 14, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
Another poor refereeing display - when will the FA get control??
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: AlexW132 on March 14, 2017, 09:49:35 PM
Something tells me we got carried away with Newcastle
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on March 14, 2017, 09:50:04 PM
We are drawing too many matches at home, it's a shame, but we are a point closer, we really have to win Saturday.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: AlexW132 on March 14, 2017, 09:51:13 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on March 14, 2017, 09:50:04 PM
We are drawing too many matches at home, it's a shame, but we are a point closer, we really have to win Saturday.
Wolves got a winner at Brentford too, they'll be in good spirits
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: General on March 14, 2017, 09:54:37 PM
Sessegnon starting up front - we were one nil up against one of the bottom teams - Slav gives Martin a chance, surely he can help.. he couldn't possibly make it worse for us up front... then people comment that he was lethargic.

Personal opinion is that Slav shouldn't play Martin again this season, or rely on him. He's poisonous to the club and the team dynamic, it ruins the passion the team have for playing for one another and for the shared goal of reaching the playoffs.

How spolit can the guy be that he's put on when we're in a leading position that he is given a guilt free opportunity to just show some effort and get us through the game. Cyriac comes on and scores minutes within his introduction.

Well done to Cyriac though! Shame we weren't in the top 6 today, but we're now within touching distance of two teams in the top 6, not just one... Wolves next... felt like we shouldn't count our chickens today until the game had finished and not sure we have the consistency to ever not expect Fulhamish results. We don't make it easy on ourselves.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: davew on March 14, 2017, 09:55:41 PM
As soon as Martin came on, my chin dropped and I thought that the result was inevitable except I was surprised that Cyriac scored and we managed to get a draw. We have had so many highs this season, but tonight gutted is a good topic to describe my feelings!
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: Neil D on March 14, 2017, 10:00:10 PM
Nobody played really well.  Fredericks maybe  the best of an indifferent team performance.   Cyriac took his goal very well from an excellent fredericks surge forward.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on March 14, 2017, 10:01:52 PM
There was no need to bring Martin on. We lost our shape after that, too much unnecessary tinkering. Martin isn't exactly going to die for the cause.

By the way, I almost forgot, if your watching Fulham Tup North, total posts are Dusty Binnish now.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: Nick Bateman on March 14, 2017, 10:02:03 PM
Cheer up my fellow Fulham fans!  We have done this many a time to others; at least we came away with something.  A quality goalkeeper would have collected that final cross but onward to Wolves.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: Neil D on March 14, 2017, 10:05:26 PM
I thought you lived in Australia,  Nick?
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on March 14, 2017, 10:05:27 PM
I am still gutted though, so many ifs and buts, and we never seem to find an easy way to do it. But a win on Saturday could change that.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: itombomb on March 14, 2017, 10:10:07 PM
I don't think Martin isn't trying (he was harassing their back two quite a lot), he's just not very good and massively ill suited to our game. When he lost the ball ahead of their goal, it's just a case of a player not having the capability. 

Players looked shattered in the second half, and I'm actually kind of worried about Wolves based on that as there aren't many changes we can make.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: alfie on March 14, 2017, 10:13:52 PM
Quote from: General on March 14, 2017, 09:54:37 PM
Sessegnon starting up front - we were one nil up against one of the bottom teams - Slav gives Martin a chance, surely he can help.. he couldn't possibly make it worse for us up front... then people comment that he was lethargic.

Personal opinion is that Slav shouldn't play Martin again this season, or rely on him. He's poisonous to the club and the team dynamic, it ruins the passion the team have for playing for one another and for the shared goal of reaching the playoffs.

How spolit can the guy be that he's put on when we're in a leading position that he is given a guilt free opportunity to just show some effort and get us through the game. Cyriac comes on and scores minutes within his introduction.

Well done to Cyriac though! Shame we weren't in the top 6 today, but we're now within touching distance of two teams in the top 6, not just one... Wolves next... felt like we shouldn't count our chickens today until the game had finished and not sure we have the consistency to ever not expect Fulhamish results. We don't make it easy on ourselves.
Personally i disagree, i thought he was putting in a lot of effort, the ball just did not run for him, but i guess he is going to be put down whatever he does.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: JoelH5 on March 14, 2017, 10:27:22 PM
Quote from: itombomb on March 14, 2017, 10:10:07 PM
I don't think Martin isn't trying (he was harassing their back two quite a lot), he's just not very good and massively ill suited to our game. When he lost the ball ahead of their goal, it's just a case of a player not having the capability. 

Players looked shattered in the second half, and I'm actually kind of worried about Wolves based on that as there aren't many changes we can make.

Luckily they played tonight too and will have to travel back down to London again. I'm also happy they won. They won't be as desperately in need of a win now. Be prepared for a backs to the wall job for them.

We need to come out the traps early and gets shots off asap before they get the chance to waste time and frustrate us
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: Jonaldiniho 88 on March 14, 2017, 10:28:38 PM
I couldn't for the life of me find a complaint against Martin. He did all that could have been asked of him. He is big and slow but put himself about. If ream had a bad game but kalas didn't, and Martin didn't try then I have watched a different game to most of you.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: J on March 14, 2017, 10:32:42 PM
Still in the hunt! A win would have been psychologically great as it would have put us in the top 6 but we are definitely still in with a chance. The other teams in top 6 will drop points too, we just have to keep going, take what we can and hope it is enough

N.B. Sheffield Wednesday play Reading on Friday, so if we win Saturday we will be top 6!
Title: Gutted !
Post by: TheDutchCottager on March 14, 2017, 10:34:45 PM
Mad about this. Ye typical Fulhamish off-days but this shitshow at the Cottage with drawing every game needs to end now if we still want to get to the play-offs.

Fans who sing that we're going up: sod off.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: ffc73 on March 14, 2017, 10:43:50 PM
Unfortunately being predicable makes the disappointment no easier.

Thought we were second best after half time & Blackburn would have been unfortunate to lose. I wish they had though

Didn't win any second ball, too many players looked leggy & we were unable to retain possession. 2 points down in my last 10 forecast. Need to rest up, go again on Saturday & win. If we do we will be in top 6 & pschologically positive going into international break
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: Neil D on March 14, 2017, 10:45:45 PM
At least Wolves played tonight so won't be any fresher.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: AlexW132 on March 14, 2017, 10:48:25 PM
Quote from: Neil D on March 14, 2017, 10:45:45 PM
At least Wolves played tonight so won't be any fresher.
But will be full of confidence having come back from behind
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: Luka on March 14, 2017, 10:52:21 PM
The team to a man looked like they thought they would win easily.
Pissed about with the ball all night like a bunch of premadonas instead of getting on with it.
In particular Cairney was giving it the Billy big bollox but delivered nothing.
I trust Slav will get the attitude sorted out by Saturday.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: ffc73 on March 14, 2017, 10:53:08 PM
Agree with you Statto
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: Lighthouse on March 14, 2017, 11:03:48 PM
There is a reason we are not in the top two. On our day we are the best footballing team in the league. But we have lots of problems. We don't defend well against high balls and big forwards. We dominate possession but are wasteful in the final third. Have been all season. No great shock that we were not quite at it tonight against Blackburn after all the Newcastle effort.

However we didn't lose, which means we are a point closer. Every game that we don't win means we have to have players who fail and we can blame. Most of which is just our effort to ease the pain. In the same way we over praise players when we do well.

Not a set back tonight but a reminder that we are what we are. Big game coming up before the pointless International break. Wolves won at Brentford so we need to make sure we remain undefeated after Saturdays game. But the players are not machines, we are what we are. Pleased Cyriac scored. As the manager says. One game at a time sweet Jesus. Or was that a song?
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: davew on March 14, 2017, 11:06:18 PM
Quote from: Statto on March 14, 2017, 10:48:32 PM
Martin was the only player with his head in the right place for the last 30 min which says a lot about how well the rest of our lot handled the pressure of expectancy.

Cairney more than anyone went to pieces. I don't care how talented he is, he is not a captain.

Sessegnon looked totally out of his depth, a painful demonstration of how easy it is to overexpose youngsters.

Someone needs to tell Johansen the season is 46 games long because he's clearly already thinking about his holidays.

To be fair to Mowbray he got Blackburn playing well but they'll go away wondering how the hell we've got all this praise for playing good football.
Isn't that over the top criticism after what the guys achieved Saturday? I too am depressed after tonight but not like you to over react!
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: filham on March 14, 2017, 11:09:57 PM
Gutted is the right word.
We were terrible , outplayed all through the second half, no particular player to blame, lowly Blackburn looked by far the better team.
Our midfield engine room of McDonald,Johanson and Cairney usually so good, looked so poor tonight'
Perhaps we were tired after a number of hard games recently, if that is the case and the tiredness continues then we are in for one hell of a thrashing by Wolves on Saturday.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: EastEndWhite on March 14, 2017, 11:45:03 PM
Quote from: andersons11 on March 14, 2017, 09:47:42 PM
Its a rather nice feeling when we can look on this and be disappointed. When was the last time a draw felt like a loss. Its hard to take after the Newcastle match but we have ended up with the same amount of points most of us would have been happy with. Sixth spot is only a point away. We are still very much in this.

:plus one:
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: nose on March 14, 2017, 11:49:10 PM
Quote from: sussexwhite on March 14, 2017, 09:43:39 PM
Never really seemed on it tonight.....but anyone else think Martin could have tried a bit more, especially in the build up to their first equaliser ?
Still a lot better to this time last season.....onwards and upwards.

COYWs ! 049:gif

the minute martin came on the team gt much worse. not because of him it is just what happened and he was the wrong change. his error for the first goal was staggering, he needlessly lost possesion for no reason that is explainable except he isn't bothered one way or the other. I honestly hipe i do not have to see him take to the field again, e are better off playing as 10 men.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: stevehawkinslidingtackle on March 15, 2017, 09:55:11 AM
Quote from: nose on March 14, 2017, 11:49:10 PM
Quote from: sussexwhite on March 14, 2017, 09:43:39 PM
Never really seemed on it tonight.....but anyone else think Martin could have tried a bit more, especially in the build up to their first equaliser ?
Still a lot better to this time last season.....onwards and upwards.

COYWs ! 049:gif

the minute martin came on the team gt much worse. not because of him it is just what happened and he was the wrong change. his error for the first goal was staggering, he needlessly lost possesion for no reason that is explainable except he isn't bothered one way or the other. I honestly hipe i do not have to see him take to the field again, e are better off playing as 10 men.


Correct. Some of the Martin defenders on here must be wind up merchants or QPR fans. Every week, whatever he does, the same lot defend him. Its incredible really. Either that or they must be related to poor old Cwissy. Just get rid of the toxic liability, he serves no purpose. I never thought Id say this, but we would have been far better off with Woodrow taking his place in the squad.
Title: Re: Gutted !
Post by: stevehawkinslidingtackle on March 15, 2017, 03:01:25 PM
Quote from: Statto on March 15, 2017, 11:19:48 AM
Quote from: stevehawkinslidingtackle on March 15, 2017, 09:55:11 AM
Quote from: nose on March 14, 2017, 11:49:10 PM
Quote from: sussexwhite on March 14, 2017, 09:43:39 PM
Never really seemed on it tonight.....but anyone else think Martin could have tried a bit more, especially in the build up to their first equaliser ?
Still a lot better to this time last season.....onwards and upwards.

COYWs ! 049:gif

the minute martin came on the team gt much worse. not because of him it is just what happened and he was the wrong change. his error for the first goal was staggering, he needlessly lost possesion for no reason that is explainable except he isn't bothered one way or the other. I honestly hipe i do not have to see him take to the field again, e are better off playing as 10 men.


Correct. Some of the Martin defenders on here must be wind up merchants or QPR fans. Every week, whatever he does, the same lot defend him. Its incredible really. Either that or they must be related to poor old Cwissy. Just get rid of the toxic liability, he serves no purpose. I never thought Id say this, but we would have been far better off with Woodrow taking his place in the squad.

And every week you post exclusively about Martin. Certainly you make yourself an easy target for anyone who wants to wind you up. Admit it, you fancy him don't you.

Personally, I cant say I've ever been wound up about football, well certainly not in the last 20 years when I decided to grow up, and  especially when it comes to Martin, because people still looking for positives in his game are probably now at a point beyond sensible discussion, so whats the point ? Anyway,as for being wound up, I have enough crap to deal without decisions made by Mr Tony Khan, his mate, and the general opinions of other fans affecting my day in general.  I cheer them on during the game, as i have for 35 yrs, but generally leave my emotional interest at the gate when I leave. I'm sure others here get wound up, and perhaps they fancy him too, but as this is FOF we have to say hurrah to them, its their choice, as we should never judge. Its the law.
That aside though, your statement proves my initial point exactly, so thanks.