I know he's going to be a hot target for tonight but he's currently struggling in our set up. Thankfully he got that assist tonight but blimey, he's a frustrating player. Shows some lovely touches to add to our hold up play, then tries about 3 little back heels when he was in a good position to turn and drive into box or create something in final third. Missed a decent chance in first half, went on to fluff the penalty, I'm not sure we purchased an out and out goal scorer....He certainly has something to his game but he had a stinker tonight. Think we missed Kamara tonight, there were times when Fonte wasn't tracking the backline as much as he would of and Fonte's lack of pace (he isn't slow, but hes not Kamara quick) was something Kebano clearly benefitted from especially for the penalty. I'm concerned for the guy. Maybe he just needs a goal, some confidence and a run of games but Boro and tonight weren't great and he needs to get better for us to fight for top 6.
Out of interest, I'm really surprised Kebano didn't take the penalty, he scored one in pre season, maybe more? and made a comment that he'd like to be penalty taker for fulham this year, having just earned it, i'm surprised he didnt take.
Should probably add, really ruddy happy with the 3 points tonight though!
Just don't see Fonte as a striker, he was not involved enough today and looked like a square peg in a round hole
Quote from: Statto on September 29, 2017, 10:39:24 PM
Didn't see the game tonight but Fonte was good v boro so If it was comparable to that, if just put it down to people not noticing the subtle stuff he does in build up play over 90 minutes and just judging him on goals scored (or lack therrof)
I went to the Boro match, and honestly, I thought he was really quite ineffective. Showed good touches and battled well against defenders twice his size, but the amount of balls that went into the box from Ryan and co. and he was nowhere to be seen was worrying. I'm concerned for the guy, I thought maybe, it was down to lack of service but he certainly swanders chances at the moment!
I was able to see the whole game, pirated, in USA. First time this season. Fonte was poor and no matter what level you play at you NEVER give a penalty to a player who is playing poorly.
Great result, thoroughly enjoyed watching the whole match and nothing can spoil my weekend now, 049:gif :wine:
Accurate assessment from Sky pundits actually.
He doesn't appear to be an out and out striker. More comfortable in a behind-the-striker position. However our set up last season didn't really have that in our formation ... only when Piazon would come on would we adopt that style of play. So perhaps Fonte might end up an impact sub? Seems a waste but doesn't quite fit our plan A..
Sky pundits seemed to think might be lacking confidence too so perhaps let's hold fire on judgement. Clear to me he is leaps and bounds above Ruiz at this stage - perhaps Arsenal roots has given him a head start but still..
Was there tonight and as a central striker Fonte flattered to deceive. Looks to me as though he would be more comfortable playing just behind the main striker or out wid e or even in a two up front set up. I just hope we don't find we have another Matlet situation.
Quote from: Milo on September 29, 2017, 10:45:45 PM
Accurate assessment from Sky pundits actually.
He doesn't appear to be an out and out striker. More comfortable in a behind-the-striker position. However our set up last season didn't really have that in our formation ... only when Piazon would come on would we adopt that style of play. So perhaps Fonte might end up an impact sub? Seems a waste but doesn't quite fit our plan A..
Sky pundits seemed to think might be lacking confidence too so perhaps let's hold fire on judgement. Clear to me he is leaps and bounds above Ruiz at this stage - perhaps Arsenal roots has given him a head start but still..
Its kind of what I was saying with the whole 'he's struggling in our set up'. Its what I'm kind of seeing. We're desperate for a poacher goal scorer but I'm not sure hes fitting that bill. If the guy gets confidence and can finish, in our side, theres absolutely no reason he can't change his style (Maybe when Cairneys back) and just bang the goals in and be an out and out striker. I'm in no way writing him off, but it's a concern I've witnessed over the last few games.
different animal to AK up front,think he needs time as he is a capable player and hope he proves it.
I like him. Technically good & works hard for the team.
Problem is, tonight he had opportunities to do what a no9 should be doing. Score goals. Fluffed those & the penalty was possibly the worse miss of all the ones we have missed in the last year and a bit
Good on him for moments later setting up the second goal.
Terrible performance I'm afraid,and the 6 inch run up for the penalty...Looked like an £8 player tonight and not £8 million...Still he did set up Stefan so I'll leave it at that.
Good player
A touch player not a battering ram.
Give the guy a break
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He'll come good - you can see he is class same as AK47 just needs games under his belt
Not saying he is a bad player,just his performance tonight,it was poor..As for the penalty enough said.
His movement is good and he tries to link play - problem was when he does that its tough to then get on the end of balls across the 6 yard box which happened a couple of time.
Joka wanted him to take the penalty ""It's only one penalty that we missed this season," Jokanović said. "It's the first time we shoot and the first time we missed.
"I cannot explain it. I ordered that Rui take it in this situation. I expect we'll be successful next time. He can take another one."
So that burden is down to the manager....
I can't help thinking that, because of the way we've played him, he's a replacement for Cairney when we sell him.
The string of penalty misses going back to last season is a disgrace. Fonte is not an out and out striker whatever some would have us believe. But after the ridiculous run of games. Yet another long injury tonight. We can hardly be too critical of Fonte or the team.
Have to agree with M & T, didn't look like he had the credentials when we paid all that money for him and has looked extremely poor apart from a good finish at Ipswich.
Apart from the penalty miss and the lack of goal scoring instinct/positioning I have seen some lazy play and a general lack of bite. Two 50/50 balls in particular vs Middlesbrough in offensive positions really worries me. The Braga chairman called him his lion, I think he really meant cash cow !!!!
Not sure why people are saying 'give the guy a break', the criticism has been fair and quite critical, whilst acknowledging he does, in fact show glimpses of a good player. Nothing unfair, nothing writing him off, fair all round.
AK47 is our only true striker. Perfect lone striker in our system. He bothers the defense all game long, very physical and unlike Fonte he is actually in the box when crosses come in!
Fonte is a good player in his own right, but looks more suited as a deep lying striker in a 2 striker system. He is not built to lead the line as we've seen tonight. At Forest he looked lost, couldn't retain posession or win the ball for us - not surprising though since he is no central midfielder. Just seems like a bad fit in Jokane's system. His best role would be on the wing where he created the assist for Johansen.
Hopefully AK47 is fully fit after the break to be our main striker. Fonte can still contribute wherever Jokane needs him. In January the club must get the monkey off their back and buy at least one if not two out and out strikers in the mold of Kamara, but with more experience.
If you're a good player you produce it, you can't rely on history.
Fonte's new to the team, his understanding will come with experience. The fact that we won tonight will help his confidence and let's hope that setting up the goal will offset his penalty miss.
Just maybe we can support our players now and again? The guy has talent, let him blossom, perhaps too many want him to fail?
Not the 1 in our preferred 4231.
Deputy for Cairney or slower wide player in Piazon mode.
Decent but not a wonder signing and given 4231 system wonder why we signed him. Guess the stats guys don't look at formations and the players required in them.
Would be perfect as the withdrawn striker in a 4411 from hodgsons days.
Fonte clearly has class and a great touch. The lad missed a penalty kick (abysmally), however, we still won and he set up the assist for the winner. He is gelling to a new team, a new style of play, and in a league that is still unraveling to him. Our hero and savior, Cairney, as well as Aluko both missed their PKs last year against QPR...we can't be too critical. Should a PK ever be missed? In theory professional players should always score 1v1 from 12 feet away unless the goalkeeper makes a save, but that's just not realistic. I think he will come good, and I think he and AK47 will form a wonderful partnership. AK will be our out and out striker while Fonte plays off him and scores speedy goals rather than with brute force. Only time will tell.
He just doesn't get the ball enough. Ojo dancing and falling down at any given moment ruins all momentum. Rui set up the winner, blasted the penalty and his own chance. He is resilient in defending as well. I think we just need to get him involved a lot more. Problem is when you have the likes of Ojo who loves to hold onto the ball for gobbles amount of time, Fonte's strength in getting open are out of sync.
We have this collective problem of making terrible decisions in the final 3rd. We have to be more clinical, and that starts with players, like Fonte, who will keep it simple to distribute the ball.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on September 29, 2017, 11:26:10 PM
Good player
A touch player not a battering ram.
Give the guy a break
Ruiz had enough chances and I fear Fonte is the same kind of player. He'll be given time and rightly so and I hope this works for him.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 29, 2017, 11:15:57 PM
Terrible performance I'm afraid,and the 6 inch run up for the penalty...Looked like an £8 player tonight and not £8 million...Still he did set up Stefan so I'll leave it at that.
+ 1
Woeful performance at Forest as well .Should have been subbed in the first half.
Have my doubts. If he is not an out and out striker ,why did we spend all that money,because that is what we need .
not his best night. But he made at least 3 decent runs into the box tonight and didnt get get the ball played in from the by-line. Had that happened he may have scored a couple. He fights and has an excellent touch. Lost possession too easily at times in their final third with flicks and the like which could have cost us on the counter.
Quote from: colinwhite on September 30, 2017, 08:40:51 AM
not his best night. But he made at least 3 decent runs into the box tonight and didnt get get the ball played in from the by-line. Had that happened he may have scored a couple. He fights and has an excellent touch. Lost possession too easily at times in their final third with flicks and the like which could have cost us on the counter.
Quote from: colinwhite on September 30, 2017, 08:40:51 AM
not his best night. But he made at least 3 decent runs into the box tonight and didnt get get the ball played in from the by-line. Had that happened he may have scored a couple. He fights and has an excellent touch. Lost possession too easily at times in their final third with flicks and the like which could have cost us on the counter.
I'm not saying the lad is a bad player,just a bad performance last night.
You can see he is a Continental player some of the flicks and that,its not the Championship, different ball game altogether, hopefully with games he will come good and more adjusted to Championship football.
Goood player, Bad game last night but even still if we replaced him with a classic number 9 they wouldnt have had the skill to pick out johansen for our second goal.
Saw Mcdonald put his arm around Fonte after that and give him a talking too. Showed good mentality to keep his head up after pen miss..
So what we're saying is, that after each game where our striker doesn't score, we're going to rotate a thread bashing them. Two weeks ago everyone was saying that Fonte was our only striker and that Kamara wasn't up to it, and laughably its now the other way around? So what Fonte missed a penalty, we still won, and there were plenty of players who missed them last season. He's just come back from injury, been played out of position against Forest and even though he provides some intelligent movement and link up and sets up the second goal, he's now being slagged off for not being a proper striker. I'm glad that people don't overreact and judge players after such a short amount of games. Maybe it was too much to expect for people to stop doing that after Kebano came good after a run of games...
I think Fonte will be better once Cairny is back. He makes runs and finds space but does not always get the ball played to him, and I think Cairny will see the pass that can be made.
I'm not unhappy with him yet to see him dropped, or Ak for that matter as they are new players bedding in. Would be interested to see a 4411 with Fonte playing behind AK though.
Have been impressed with his touch a great finish at ipswich and think he will do well long term for us and of course still adjusting to championship football.
Quote from: Statto on September 30, 2017, 08:11:12 AM
It's funny. Fonte and Kamara have both had a similar amount of game time. Fonte has 1 goal, 1 assist and Kamara has 2 goals, so similarly effective. Fonte scored his goal first so initially he was "class" and Kamara was apparently a League 2 player. Now the roles are reversed... Kamara has scored in more recent games so now we love him but Fonte is being compared to Ruiz and Marlet. I already feel sorry for whichever of them fails to score against Ipswich.
This was my exact observation. After Ipswich we were told Fonte was showing AK what to do. Now suddenly AK is flavour of the month because he had a great game then was out of the next.
Both are very different options and that's what everyone was crying for last year, so really the club can't win.
Fonte was poor I agree. And atrocious penalty. But he did find some good space especially first half and he just didn't get the ball he was expecting. Flashed a shot over when he should have hit the target but that at least shows confidence.
I watched the game on telly and thought Fonte did ok. He spent a lot of time pressurizing the QPR back four when they had possession. He made some good runs, got into scoring positions a couple of times, at least had the decency to say "I'm the striker, I'll take the penalties " and made an excellent forceful pacy run down the wing, precision pass to Stefan for the goal. He managed to stay focused after the miss and get himself into the position to set up the goal.
That turned out to be the winning goal, so well done.
I think he could be brilliant for us but is just taking time to settle. The Pen was a howler but his reaction was brilliant and he completely made the SJ goal.
Ojo was the horror show last night.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on September 30, 2017, 10:23:45 AM
I think Fonte will be better once Cairny is back. He makes runs and finds space but does not always get the ball played to him, and I think Cairny will see the pass that can be made.
I'm not unhappy with him yet to see him dropped, or Ak for that matter as they are new players bedding in. Would be interested to see a 4411 with Fonte playing behind AK though.
I think you make a good point, it will be interesting to see how he feeds off TC's distribution.
This thread is a bit ridiculous. Football fans? Fickle? Never.
I can't be the only one who thought he played well. Yeah the penalty was a bad miss, yes he could have been a bit more ruthless in going for goal at times.
In a Jokanovic team, the lone guy up top is responsible for holding up the ball, drawing away players and bringing team mates into the game up the pitch. He did that pretty well in my view.
He's never been a great goal scorer, his career highlights that. He may find his shooting boots at some point, but that's only about half his job - if that.
Remember guys.
I like both Kamara and Fonte. I am positive they will get even better. The good thing is that they are both very different to each other, one thing they have in common is that they both press the ball and defend from the front, and I like their workrate.
But because they are different they could play together.
Whatever happens there is now more options for Jok.
Which should give him more game plans from A-Z.
I am sure they will both have important rolls to play which should make us a dangerous outfit.
As for last night, there are many different ways to win a match, and last night was one of them.
Quote from: simplyfulham on September 30, 2017, 12:56:10 PM
This thread is a bit ridiculous. Football fans? Fickle? Never.
I can't be the only one who thought he played well. Yeah the penalty was a bad miss, yes he could have been a bit more ruthless in going for goal at times.
In a Jokanovic team, the lone guy up top is responsible for holding up the ball, drawing away players and bringing team mates into the game up the pitch. He did that pretty well in my view.
He's never been a great goal scorer, his career highlights that. He may find his shooting boots at some point, but that's only about half his job - if that.
Remember guys.
If you think he played well then all I can say is God help us...He was terrible,not the same player I saw at Ipswich,but that might come again once Tom is back as has been stated by Suffolk White.
I think we are still in need of a striker, we have yet to replace Dembele or McCormac.
Quote from: andyk on September 30, 2017, 11:29:28 AM
I watched the game on telly and thought Fonte did ok. He spent a lot of time pressurizing the QPR back four when they had possession. He made some good runs, got into scoring positions a couple of times, at least had the decency to say "I'm the striker, I'll take the penalties " and made an excellent forceful pacy run down the wing, precision pass to Stefan for the goal. He managed to stay focused after the miss and get himself into the position to set up the goal.
That turned out to be the winning goal, so well done.
This is spot on.... Well said.
Footballs a game of opinions and the chance to express them on forums such as this is the right of all.
But it also exposes how narrow a view they have about the game!
Agree with the OP.
Just think it's a poor bit of business from the club. It's not Fontes fault we payed millions for him when, his value in football terms to me doesn't reach anywhere near a million.
His stats in Portugal mean nothing in the championship. Terrible bit of business by the club. If we had ambition, we would've gone for a proven striker earlier. Such as Gayle.
He was the best thing since sliced bread on here after the Ipswich game.
He didn't have a great game last night obviously but we were far from our free flowing best. Get Cairney behind him and I think we'll see the best of him.
I was down the front by the corner flag yesterday and it must be said, he absolutely bust a gut to get to the ball first in the build up to the second goal.
Last season we had a guy from the Iberian peninsula who was so far out of his depth it was almost pitiful to watch. This guy is so much better - but they all have bad games.
Basking in two away wins, I'm feeling pretty happy with our striker signings.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 30, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Agree with the OP.
Just think it's a poor bit of business from the club. It's not Fontes fault we payed millions for him when, his value in football terms to me doesn't reach anywhere near a million.
His stats in Portugal mean nothing in the championship. Terrible bit of business by the club. If we had ambition, we would've gone for a proven striker earlier. Such as Gayle.
Proven striker? Doesn't come more proven than Chris Martin? Matt Smith was pretty proven?
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Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 30, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Agree with the OP.
Just think it's a poor bit of business from the club. It's not Fontes fault we payed millions for him when, his value in football terms to me doesn't reach anywhere near a million.
His stats in Portugal mean nothing in the championship. Terrible bit of business by the club. If we had ambition, we would've gone for a proven striker earlier. Such as Gayle.
Proven striker? Doesn't come more proven than Chris Martin? Matt Smith was pretty proven?
Matt Smith proven? That's the dumbest thing I've ever read hahaha. He did OK out on loan in league one. But never had a prolific season in the championship.
You're bringing up the past? I'm talking now, Chris martin was on loan with a poor attitude. He was proven at this level but we don't have him now do we you numpty lol. We needed to buy a replacement in January, and then appeared to of failed in the long summer transfer window.
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Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on September 29, 2017, 11:26:10 PM
Good player
A touch player not a battering ram.
Give the guy a break
Ruiz had enough chances and I fear Fonte is the same kind of player. He'll be given time and rightly so and I hope this works for him.
Ruiz? Hmmmm Ruiz ... that's the guy that stopped us from being relegated to League 1 as I remember.
Quote from: Finnegans Wake on September 30, 2017, 07:19:20 PM
He was the best thing since sliced bread on here after the Ipswich game.
He didn't have a great game last night obviously but we were far from our free flowing best. Get Cairney behind him and I think we'll see the best of him.
I was down the front by the corner flag yesterday and it must be said, he absolutely bust a gut to get to the ball first in the build up to the second goal.
Agree with you. 1 hard Game where yes he misses a pen but come on cut him some slack you lot and think he will ram the jibes down your throats.
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Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 30, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Agree with the OP.
Just think it's a poor bit of business from the club. It's not Fontes fault we payed millions for him when, his value in football terms to me doesn't reach anywhere near a million.
His stats in Portugal mean nothing in the championship. Terrible bit of business by the club. If we had ambition, we would've gone for a proven striker earlier. Such as Gayle.
Proven striker? Doesn't come more proven than Chris Martin? Matt Smith was pretty proven?
Matt Smith proven? That's the dumbest thing I've ever read hahaha. He did OK out on loan in league one. But never had a prolific season in the championship.
You're bringing up the past? I'm talking now, Chris martin was on loan with a poor attitude. He was proven at this level but we don't have him now do we you numpty lol. We needed to buy a replacement in January, and then appeared to of failed in the long summer transfer window.
Dumbest thing you've ever read? You need to read more. I read DaVinci Code once, that was dumber. I remember seeing similar posts re: Ak47 and guess what, that was BS equally your comments on Fonte are too. Mate, we won, take a holiday and come back refreshed for Preston.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 30, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Agree with the OP.
Just think it's a poor bit of business from the club. It's not Fontes fault we payed millions for him when, his value in football terms to me doesn't reach anywhere near a million.
His stats in Portugal mean nothing in the championship. Terrible bit of business by the club. If we had ambition, we would've gone for a proven striker earlier. Such as Gayle.
Do you actually like any of the signings we've made this summer? First you talk about us potentially being relegated a couple of weeks ago, and now you're on a roulette to call all of our players sh**e one by one? Are you a wum or what?
Cannot believe people on here are giving Fonte a hard time after only a few games.For gods sake give the guy a chance.He is only human.
Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 30, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Agree with the OP.
Just think it's a poor bit of business from the club. It's not Fontes fault we payed millions for him when, his value in football terms to me doesn't reach anywhere near a million.
His stats in Portugal mean nothing in the championship. Terrible bit of business by the club. If we had ambition, we would've gone for a proven striker earlier. Such as Gayle.
Er his stats in Portugal mean nothing? So what are you implying - that stats in France, Germany, Spain etc. mean nothing. On that basis I assume stats in Scotland, EFL League 1 etc. (in fact anything outside the Championship and the Prem) mean nothing? Do proven strikers only exist here in the upper reaches of UK football? We lack ambition because we didn't sign Dwight Gaye? On that basis scouts may as well all give up and retire. What blinkered, narrow minded nonsense.
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Quote from: @jolslover on September 30, 2017, 07:41:48 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 30, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Agree with the OP.
Just think it's a poor bit of business from the club. It's not Fontes fault we payed millions for him when, his value in football terms to me doesn't reach anywhere near a million.
His stats in Portugal mean nothing in the championship. Terrible bit of business by the club. If we had ambition, we would've gone for a proven striker earlier. Such as Gayle.
Proven striker? Doesn't come more proven than Chris Martin? Matt Smith was pretty proven?
Matt Smith proven? That's the dumbest thing I've ever read hahaha. He did OK out on loan in league one. But never had a prolific season in the championship.
You're bringing up the past? I'm talking now, Chris martin was on loan with a poor attitude. He was proven at this level but we don't have him now do we you numpty lol. We needed to buy a replacement in January, and then appeared to of failed in the long summer transfer window.
What? He banged 15 or so for Leeds the year before we signed him? That's proven.
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Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 30, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Agree with the OP.
Just think it's a poor bit of business from the club. It's not Fontes fault we payed millions for him when, his value in football terms to me doesn't reach anywhere near a million.
His stats in Portugal mean nothing in the championship. Terrible bit of business by the club. If we had ambition, we would've gone for a proven striker earlier. Such as Gayle.
Proven striker? Doesn't come more proven than Chris Martin? Matt Smith was pretty proven?
Matt Smith proven? That's the dumbest thing I've ever read hahaha. He did OK out on loan in league one. But never had a prolific season in the championship.
You're bringing up the past? I'm talking now, Chris martin was on loan with a poor attitude. He was proven at this level but we don't have him now do we you numpty lol. We needed to buy a replacement in January, and then appeared to of failed in the long summer transfer window.
What? He banged 15 or so for Leeds the year before we signed him? That's proven.
I season of 12 goals at Leeds, hasn't scored more than 5 in a campaign in Championship since then. His performances with us were clear evidence he isn't good enough I think.
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on September 30, 2017, 10:55:27 PM
Cannot believe people on here are giving Fonte a hard time after only a few games.For gods sake give the guy a chance.He is only human.
I agree. Also, even if he didn't have a great game, his assist was excellent; made a good run, held off the defender, created a bit of space for himself and gave the ball to Johansen in a good position.
Quote from: Statto on September 30, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: fcfulham55 on September 30, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Agree with the OP.
Just think it's a poor bit of business from the club. It's not Fontes fault we payed millions for him when, his value in football terms to me doesn't reach anywhere near a million.
His stats in Portugal mean nothing in the championship. Terrible bit of business by the club. If we had ambition, we would've gone for a proven striker earlier. Such as Gayle.
First Ojo now Fonte. Have a day off mate. Please tell me you don't go to games, if this is your attitude I'd rather an away fan had your seat
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Blimey theres some drama queens on this forum. Some saying the criticism will be rammed down our throats, some saying we lack any perspective about the game because theres been some valid criticisms about recent performances, some making out the guy was brilliant........... A lot of people seem incapable of reading the full post before chiming in with some ridiculous sentiment that we've created a post to ridicule the guy. I merely made the post as I'm concerned that a player who shows decent signs of a quality player, is currently struggling in our setup and maybe we haven't signed a player, that I think we wanted, an out and out goalscorer. I really don't understand how the original point has been taken so far out of context.
Ten points from his five starts tells me he is offering something.
Quote from: MJG on October 01, 2017, 02:31:21 PM
Ten points from his five starts tells me he is offering something.
I don't think I said he didn't?
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Agree with the OP.
Just think it's a poor bit of business from the club. It's not Fontes fault we payed millions for him when, his value in football terms to me doesn't reach anywhere near a million.
His stats in Portugal mean nothing in the championship. Terrible bit of business by the club. If we had ambition, we would've gone for a proven striker earlier. Such as Gayle.
Proven striker? Doesn't come more proven than Chris Martin? Matt Smith was pretty proven?
Matt Smith proven? That's the dumbest thing I've ever read hahaha. He did OK out on loan in league one. But never had a prolific season in the championship.
You're bringing up the past? I'm talking now, Chris martin was on loan with a poor attitude. He was proven at this level but we don't have him now do we you numpty lol. We needed to buy a replacement in January, and then appeared to of failed in the long summer transfer window.
What? He banged 15 or so for Leeds the year before we signed him? That's proven.
I season of 12 goals at Leeds, hasn't scored more than 5 in a campaign in Championship since then. His performances with us were clear evidence he isn't good enough I think.
You misunderstand my point. I am the biggest Smith hater about or one of, I was using him as an example to say that 'proven' champ scorers don't always work out.