Wish he'd get an interpretor when giving interviews. What the hell was he on about? Transitions etc, whats all that about?
You never know, but if we keep surviving our complicated moments, we could yet achieve a good mental moment. Next stop Nirvana.
Past caring about his pre match or after match interviews. He is never going to be able to learn after all this time and so I have stopped listening to him. He clearly knows his stuff and can communicate with the players. But PR is always going to be a problem for him. Most managers come out with rubbish anyway. It is just that we can't actually understand if it's rubbish or not. As long as the players know during coaching.
Quote from: Lighthouse on September 30, 2017, 11:28:43 AM
...Most managers come out with rubbish anyway. It is just that we can't actually understand if it's rubbish or not. As long as the players know during coaching.
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Absolutely right! He's not auditioning for a job as newsreader on Radio4.
Last night's was a classically opaque offering.
I love his interviews, he sounds like a character from the Fast Show, a mixture of Ron Manager and football superstar Julio Geordio.
Thanks for the 'interpretation'.
The Sky interview was his most incoherent interview yet !
Never have a problem understanding his points and as for his 'broken' English I have heard worse from people born and bred here. Some people are good at learning fluency while many struggle, and the guy can make himself understood in at least three languages. Not bad for someone who some say needs an interpreter.
Trappatoni, when managing Ireland, was better mind you . He went all in, with idiomatic expressions, it was wonderful.
"Don't jump the gun. In Italy it is other meaning but the same. Be careful the cat, no say the cat is in the sack when you have not the cat in the sack"
And when Shane Long pulled out of an international,
"Before the game we made a tactical (formation) with Shane Long, with (Jon) Walters, with (Aiden) McGeady. Ask Shane Long what he said, after this, 'I have pain'.The doctor, worry, and so in hospital. They took him for a scan. And now he says he is fit, that is idiotic. Is idiot. No, (he) is no baby."
I can cope with his broken English but either the sound quality on the sky I/V was poor or he was mumbling, that really did make it hard to understand him. However compared to many managers he does try to talk seriously about football and for that I give him full credit.
Dont undertand what your on about ,thought he made perfekt sense!!
Hes getting it right on the pitch with his team ,thats all that matters!
You think you have problems understanding him!
Quote from: Twig on September 30, 2017, 11:59:14 AM
I can cope with his broken English but either the sound quality on the sky I/V was poor or he was mumbling, that really did make it hard to understand him. However compared to many managers he does try to talk seriously about football and for that I give him full credit.
He does mumble. Clearer diction, even with his original take on grammar, would make him easier to understand. He must have spent his youth in Serbia watching Marlon Brando films.
OK, he's difficult to understand at times.....but I bet he says "would have" and not "would of"...........
Quote from: andyk on September 30, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
I love his interviews, he sounds like a character from the Fast Show, a mixture of Ron Manager and football superstar Julio Geordio.
My thoughts exactly. Paul Whitehouse based Ron Manager on Alec Stock, Fulham's finest manager.
It all makes perfect sense to me. LLJ (Long live Joka)
Quote from: gerrys on September 30, 2017, 08:24:41 PM
OK, he's difficult to understand at times.....but I bet he says "would have" and not "would of"...........
He-he. How true!
I was transfixed by the lingering close-up of Joka whispering instructions into Kebano's ear as he was waiting to come on as sub yesterday. Firstly, Joka seems very tall for a midfielder (or Kebano is a trifle vertically challenged?) Secondly, Kebano looked anxiously bewildered and barely acknowledged the instructions. So Joka just patted him on the shoulders and sent him on his way. Priceless theatre.
In all seriousness, I think Joka is a very talented manager. If he were to improve his English, he could be one of the best. Management after all is about communication.
Nogood "not talking proper English like, isit" Boyo
His English is a lot better than my Serbian, so, no complaints from me.
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Quote from: mtmakl on October 01, 2017, 12:43:42 AM
His English is a lot better than my Serbian, so, no complaints from me.
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Quote from: mtmakl on October 01, 2017, 12:43:42 AM
His English is a lot better than my Serbian, so, no complaints from me.
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But I assume your not working in Serbia, but he is working in England, and communication is a necessary requirement in his line of work.
Transitioning.A coaching term meaning :
When losing the ball,quickly getting players behind the ball where the team switches to defensive shape as quickly as possible.
In attack:
Press forces the opponents into making a mistake,or enbles the team to directly win back possession at which Point, the team `transitions `into attack to get forward as quickly as possible before the opponent has time to get players behind the ball or organise their defense. Also known as a turnover , counter attack or as we used to say in the old days `hitting teams on the break !!
This season we have been more
direct in attack and also allowed teams to come on to us in order to use our offensive transiton. Players with pace are vital to make this work, and this is a main feature of how we have played in the last 2 games.
As far as Jokas interview goes ,he just looked completely knackered, and after those final 9 minutes who can blame him !!!
Missed it, is it available
if he ever formed a rock band,it would be called,
Broken English!
The subtext to the answer to the question about the potential second penalty is 'in all my years in football questioning a referee's decision after the match has never changed the result', except SJ believes we are all intelligent enough to understand that by now or is he supposed to descend to the level of speciousness demonstrated by high percentage of football coaches and media people. Communication is partly the responsibility of the speaker and partly the responsibility of the listener and is wholly ambiguous because language happens not to be precise. That is why legal documents are so bloody long.
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Quote from: mtmakl on October 01, 2017, 12:43:42 AM
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But I assume your not working in Serbia, but he is working in England, and communication is a necessary requirement in his line of work.
communication is necessary, yes. But communication is different from speaking the queens English. He gets his message across. He's got a management team behind him who undoubtedly help him on the training pitch, and just because he mumbles a bit, stutters with certain words or in scenarios can't find the exact word doesn't mean people need to have a go at him .
He's worked in many different countries and managed to get his message across so I'm happy with the broken English that I hear, the general message gets across. If the club or broadcasters have an issue , they would surely seek out Stuart Gray or the like who can get the message across to please everyone
Quote from: colinwhite on October 01, 2017, 08:30:01 AM
Transitioning.A coaching term meaning :
When losing the ball,quickly getting players behind the ball where the team switches to defensive shape as quickly as possible.
In attack:
Press forces the opponents into making a mistake,or enbles the team to directly win back possession at which Point, the team `transitions `into attack to get forward as quickly as possible before the opponent has time to get players behind the ball or organise their defense. Also known as a turnover , counter attack or as we used to say in the old days `hitting teams on the break !!
This season we have been more
direct in attack and also allowed teams to come on to us in order to use our offensive transiton. Players with pace are vital to make this work, and this is a main feature of how we have played in the last 2 games.
As far as Jokas interview goes ,he just looked completely knackered, and after those final 9 minutes who can blame him !!!
Thanks for that definition. When it comes to football his English is obviously better than mine.
Actually, when I looked up 'Transitioning' I discovered something
entirely different!
It may be worth considering that English is, in fact, no better than his 3rd language, Spanish being his 2nd. (His family live in Spain.)
As long he can say no, if West Ham come a calling.
Quote from: Peabody on October 01, 2017, 09:57:58 AM
As long he can say no, if West Ham come a calling.
Hah, brill.
Nogood "What's Serbian for no, isit" Boyo