If we do sell Ryan for 50 mill plus as has been touted, what do you expect will happen with that £50 mill?
Will we have the whole amount to invest in players?
If we got offered 50 million for Sess, that would be incredibly hard to turn down.... I for one do not want him to go, but unfortunately it is sheerly only a matter of time. Even if we make it into the Premier League this would only keep Ryan here for maybe 2 years beyond that. If offered 50 million I feel like we would surely have to accept.
Would be devastated to see him go but go he will at some point.
Possibly the Riverside Stand project will as last begin, (not sure how much it would cost though) also the development of the ground opposite Motspur Park we have purchased.
The change (if any) may fund some investment in the team depended on whether we go up.
If we were to go up, as Huddersfield have done the purchase of a Premier squad may be through the Sky TV money.
Or ........ it may pay for an upgrade to the yacht!!!
All this coming out every month or so,agencies like the football league world now stating Spurs are the latest to go after him,excuse me but I thought it was them who supposed to be after him all along.
Made up nonsense with made up money being mentioned.
Sess will be here with us when we go up....Coyw
Sess will be here with us when we go up....Coyw
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Exactly. COYW !
+ Spurs don't have £50m.
+ Levy will try and con us.
+ Never ever understood how Spurs got a free run at Dembele no1 without an even bigger club going for him. Bitter.
+ we ain't their feeder club.
+ can't stand their fans.
+ we're going up and he's staying with us.
Spurs paid over 30 million for Sissoko who hardly plays. Their reputation for not paying well isn't entirely earned. Anyway, all of Englands top clubs are surely keeping tabs on him, doesn't have to be Tottenham.
Don't know how well it would work to suddenly have 50 million in the market though. Hard to get a decent price and players will be clamouring for better contracts. Look at how Everton is doing now after selling Lukaku. Granted, Sess is nowhere near to as influential as Lukaku.
The more we spend the worse deals we seem to make. No names,no pack drill of course....
Wow, 'bigger clubs go after star players of smaller clubs', as if it is something that hasn't ever happened before in a repetitively rehashed lazy journalistic media that is so bad you wonder why any of it bothers. Why give these people house room on these threads?
I reckon he will stay with us until we gain promotion. The money we would gain from selling him would allow us to build a solid PL team.
I can understand not wanting to sell under any circumstances, but we are only Fulham, and £50m is a lot of money.
I would not want him to leave, and hopefully he will be playing in the Premier League for Fulham FC next season. I can only hope.
But if somebody came in with a 50 million English Pounds 💷💷, I would have to consider it very seriously, that is a lot of money, and I would hang out for the highest bidder and get the maximum for him, I would not except the first, second or third offer assuming he would be in agreement to leave in the first place.
It's all irrelevant and speculation and journalism stiring the pot as we all know they do.
In Sess we have a gem in our hands, he can help us obtain membership to the English Premier League, and then consolidate there.
Because somewhere along the line, sooner or later he will no doubt be sold unfortunately.
But Fulham's compensation will be millions of hard earned cash 💰, which puts Fulham in a win win situation I would like to think.
Not gonna happen. We'd get less than half of that.
Quote from: J.Perkins on October 02, 2017, 08:24:20 AM
I reckon he will stay with us until we gain promotion. The money we would gain from selling him would allow us to build a solid PL team.
I can understand not wanting to sell under any circumstances, but we are only Fulham, and £50m is a lot of money.
Not many PL clubs would turn down that sort of money.
I really hope we don't cash in on Sess. Love watching him and it would break my heart to see him at Spurs. Rumoured buy out clause is £80mil. With the increase in transfer fees he could be worth a huge amount if he plays with us in the Premiership.
£50m has to be just wild and ridiculous media speculation, no way is Sess worth anywhere near that figure , even at today's silly rates. I actually question if he is worth a place at left back in the present Fulham team, he is not performing as well as Malone did last season and I suspect if ever Soares becomes match fit Sess. may be moved forward to an attacking position.
Indeed it could be said that Fulham could use a £10m or £15m transfer fee for Sess. to buy players who would be of more immediate use to them in the Championship. However Fulham never use big money received for players on good replacements so we had best keep him rather than see the money evaporate away in the bank.
Quote from: filham on October 02, 2017, 10:45:11 AM
£50m has to be just wild and ridiculous media speculation, no way is Sess worth anywhere near that figure , even at today's silly rates. I actually question if he is worth a place at left back in the present Fulham team, he is not performing as well as Malone did last season and I suspect if ever Soares becomes match fit Sess. may be moved forward to an attacking position.
Indeed it could be said that Fulham could use a £10m or £15m transfer fee for Sess. to buy players who would be of more immediate use to them in the Championship. However Fulham never use big money received for players on good replacements so we had best keep him rather than see the money evaporate away in the bank.
Controversial as it might be, I would snap the hands off someone offering £50m, or even £30m. It is based on his assumed development, as he is certainly not worth that kind of money if based on his current level. Not many players end up as good as they are touted to, and he has a long way to go before he's good enough to start for a team like Spurs. I enjoy watching him at Fulham and really hope he fulfills his potential at Fulham, but it's no guarantee.
A lot of people are saying this is a lot of money and are basically saying is he worth that, no doubt similar discussions were going about when Gareth Bale was being touted about.
So when you go on about is he worth that much you have to consider his future value. I like Ryan Sess a lot he has great pace and for a 17 (just) he is a good size so will only get bigger and stronger. But one quality I really feel makes him the player he is and will be in the future is his intelligence. How many great runs does he go on with his dynamic overlapping and then his ability to see a pass and play some fantastic passes in very dangerous positions and I won't mention his finishing. As for the comparison of Bale, remember he started out as left back.
So is he worth 50 mill, yes because in the future I believe he will be a world class player and England international.
Quote from: Bill2 on October 02, 2017, 12:13:09 PM
A lot of people are saying this is a lot of money and are basically saying is he worth that, no doubt similar discussions were going about when Gareth Bale was being touted about.
So when you go on about is he worth that much you have to consider his future value. I like Ryan Sess a lot he has great pace and for a 17 (just) he is a good size so will only get bigger and stronger. But one quality I really feel makes him the player he is and will be in the future is his intelligence. How many great runs does he go on with his dynamic overlapping and then his ability to see a pass and play some fantastic passes in very dangerous positions and I won't mention his finishing. As for the comparison of Bale, remember he started out as left back.
So is he worth 50 mill, yes because in the future I believe he will be a world class player and England international.
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Quote from: Statto on October 02, 2017, 01:12:16 PM
Quote from: bencher on October 02, 2017, 11:16:35 AM
It is based on his assumed development, as he is certainly not worth that kind of money if based on his current level. Not many players end up as good as they are touted to, and he has a long way to go before he's good enough to start for a team like Spurs. I enjoy watching him at Fulham and really hope he fulfills his potential at Fulham, but it's no guarantee.
Agree entirely
I don't know if this is how if works in the industry but for me, if you say he has the "potential" to be a £100m player but, looking at the careers of all the other youngsters who had that potential once, you say statistically the probability of him actually fulfilling that is about 10%, then £10m (10% of £100m) would be a fair valuation
I can follow that reasoning, but how does someone arrive at the £50m valuation. They don't apply any reasoning other than £50m is an attention drawing figure to put on the front page of the sports section of the paper.
Hey, it´s the International break & there is little of any interest so some lazy journo has trawled back for something to say.
Sell Sess for 50 million, I think the OP must have been out drinking, not like me 9weel I wasn't out for long today at the Clubhouse)!! Who on Earth is likely to consider paying that price, a very promising youngster we do have on our books, but at this stage nobody knows if he is going to make the grade in top level football and just another concern as to what his best position will be? Didn't we have another wonder kid on our books, think his name was Roberts, Patrick wasn't it? How much did we sell him for and where is he now and what is his current worth? Yes I know the answers except his market value, nowhere near 50M!! On what I have seen so far this season, we would probably have the same number of points whether Sess had been playing for us or not, just my opinion though after watching 10 games.
£50 mil or any other big fee would be inclusive of add ons based on appearances, international call ups etc. etc. So we couldn't spend the entire fee, even if we wanted to, because it wouldn't all pass onto our books in one lump (sadly!).
On the slightly different question of would we spend whatever fee we received? We that is a matter of conjecture but in my experience the Khan's are set on running a "sustainable club" and so I would expect that only a proportion of any big fee would be reinvested in the transfer kitty. To be fair when other clubs have hit the jackpot with one massive transfer and then blown it on a lot pricey incoming players it has not always worked out - the fees for Bale money was not very successfully reinvested and the Lukaku money seems to have also been poorly spent.
I would take anything north of £15m. He has huge potential, but it is potential. Look at his ACTUAL contribution and assess the value of that. Don't misunderstand me, I would like him to stay but if all goes well for him he will outstrip us. He hasn't yet, he's still growing as a footballer. He has talent, but as a youngster still learning he makes mistake (for which I forgive rather than castigate him) but a hard-nosed commercial approach says sell him for, say £20m, and buy a better left back and have £ left over.
He is my pick for player of the season so far. That said, I would still take the 50m, which I don't think there is much chance of Spurs paying.
Quote from: mlangstrom on October 02, 2017, 07:15:54 PM
He is my pick for player of the season so far. That said, I would still take the 50m, which I don't think there is much chance of Spurs paying.
I'm interested that you pick him as man of the season. WHY? What has he done to make you say he's outperformed KMac or Stefan for example?
Quote from: Southcoastffc on October 02, 2017, 07:59:17 PM
Quote from: mlangstrom on October 02, 2017, 07:15:54 PM
He is my pick for player of the season so far. That said, I would still take the 50m, which I don't think there is much chance of Spurs paying.
I'm interested that you pick him as man of the season. WHY? What has he done to make you say he's outperformed KMac or Stefan for example?
KMac, Stefan and Button (I'm not a fan but I think he is top 5 so far) are close behind Sess in my mind. I thought Stefan and KMac needed a few games to get going this season so I would give it to Sess. His defending still needs to improve but I think he has been our best attacking player to date, feels like a constant threat. Don't know the stats but he must have played a part in at least a third of our league goals so far.
As Sgt (Arthur) Wilson would say:
"I think we're going I to the realms of fantasy".
Sessegnon for £50 million is a no brainer normally. However i have nothing against the Khans but i know that money we would re-invest would be 30% of that at best. So for that reason i would pass and get to the premiership with him and then we may see that money re-invested as he can see the risk-reward of being in the PL. On another note i really am Sess fan boy but this season he has been poor and i think its due to the England u17 and being fatigued.
No one seems to mention what Ryan Sessegnon wants in all this, which, most of all, is at the heart of what happens. The young man wants to play for Fulham and I am very glad that he does. I also believe he has worked out, very sensibly IMO, that were he on the books of a big club today he'd likely be out on loan to a Championship side to get experience and match time. The future will pan out however it does so and he'll continue to do whatever is best for him and I wish him all the success in the world. He hasn't been a sucker so far and so how can people believe he'll fall for lazy and repeated media speculation like this load of trash.
Just happy he and his bro have signed new contracts,as for worth its always down to any 2 clubs buyer and seller to sort out for any player.
Quote from: toshes mate on October 06, 2017, 04:50:10 AM
No one seems to mention what Ryan Sessegnon wants in all this, which, most of all, is at the heart of what happens. The young man wants to play for Fulham and I am very glad that he does. I also believe he has worked out, very sensibly IMO, that were he on the books of a big club today he'd likely be out on loan to a Championship side to get experience and match time. The future will pan out however it does so and he'll continue to do whatever is best for him and I wish him all the success in the world. He hasn't been a sucker so far and so how can people believe he'll fall for lazy and repeated media speculation like this load of trash.
+1 - couldn't have put it better myself. Clearly enjoys playing for Fulham and whilst I'm under no illusions he will eventually move onto bigger things, I hope he stays a while yet and helps us get to where we want to be.