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Title: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on April 22, 2018, 07:53:28 PM
Some fans are pretty certain, I'm sceptical, they've lost 4 of their last 5, including Sunderland and Burton.

Having a read up on their last game v Boro, fans were saying they were flat, had no spark up front, midfield was missing, and some very odd subs from Rowett.

Only saving grace, is that this really is the last chance for Derby to cement theirselves in the playoffs, so, I'm hoping they raise their game.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: ffcthereligion on April 22, 2018, 07:57:12 PM
Agreed, I think automatic is a fantasy and Cardiff will have it wrapped up before we go to Birmingham. Just getting ready to lose to Brentford in the play offs! Hey, not like I can be disappointed being this pessimistic can I?!
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: SP on April 22, 2018, 08:29:47 PM
Their defence is awful so I wouldn't bank on it.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Benny on April 22, 2018, 08:30:27 PM
I can't see Derby getting a result to be honest, think they have already peaked this season and are on their way down.

Would love to be proven wrong of course.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: St Eve on April 22, 2018, 08:47:50 PM
I fully expect Derby to win
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 22, 2018, 08:50:54 PM
Derby County first and foremost will be trying to do themselves a favour, they have to. Otherwise a promising season is going to end in tears for them if they do not turn over warlocks outfit.
Let's not forget that Cardiff are not blowing teams away, far from it, they are just grinding out results which could come to a sudden halt v Derby County. As I feel Derby will give it their best shot as they have to, as well as the fact that in absence of any snow, there is no loved lost.
I just cannot see Warlock achieving a win at Derby.
So it's all still up for grabs until it's mathematically impossible.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: One Martin Thomas on April 22, 2018, 09:12:58 PM
I think Hull will be harder than Derby....
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: ffc73 on April 22, 2018, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on April 22, 2018, 09:12:58 PM
I think Hull will be harder than Derby....

I think so too but we need Derby to find something in themselves to rescue their season and keep our quest for 2nd as a possibility.  We just need them to avoid defeat.  Come on you Rams.

Then we are all Hull supporters.  Hull's last 2 games?  Cardiff (h) and Brentford (a).
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: One Martin Thomas on April 22, 2018, 09:20:06 PM
Derby are borderline pathetic and I have no idea why they loaned out Chris Martin again. Every year they seemed to forget the season carries on after Xmas.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 22, 2018, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on April 22, 2018, 09:12:58 PM
I think Hull will be harder than Derby....

I think your right, maybe Derby will soften them up by getting any kind of result, and Hull will finish them off.
Two defeats for Warlock will have him raging at the fourth officials for 90 mins.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Luka on April 22, 2018, 09:21:42 PM
I'm not expecting a Derby win but can see a draw.
I think Hull will do a number on Cardiff and open the door for us.
Cardiff will destroy Reading.

We need six points from the next two games as "we're on our way".
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: SP on April 22, 2018, 09:22:55 PM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on April 22, 2018, 09:20:06 PM
Derby are borderline pathetic and I have no idea why they loaned out Chris Martin again. Every year they seemed to forget the season carries on after Xmas.

Not sure if I dreamt it, but wasn't there a suggestion we were to sign Richard Keogh last year?  Just the thought of it...
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: choice_of_ends on April 22, 2018, 09:26:13 PM
Derby is bottling it like Leeds last year. I don't think, there're making the playoffs. If we are lucky, they draw against Cardiff.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on April 22, 2018, 09:31:31 PM
After Norwich and Nottingham Forest giving up late goals and giving Cardiff points, I have no hope in anyone to do us a favor. I fear 3rd place and a rocky playoff picture.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: choice_of_ends on April 22, 2018, 09:49:48 PM
In worst case we'll lose everything: playoffs, our best players and the manager.
And you know: that's football!
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 22, 2018, 10:08:37 PM
Then we are demooD. 😡💀☠️👻🆘
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: JoelH5 on April 22, 2018, 10:20:58 PM
Quote from: choice_of_ends on April 22, 2018, 09:49:48 PM
In worst case we'll lose everything: playoffs, our best players and the manager.
And you know: that's football!

If that is the case, we just sell Sess and TC and do a Wolves with the 70 mill we'd get.

I genuinely think, Sess, TC, Fredricks, StefJo and Slav would leave at a minimum if we don't go up.

Obviously the much more enjoyable route would be playing in the prem with them.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Andy S on April 23, 2018, 12:49:28 AM
If we get into the play offs we should be less nervous than the other teams as we know what to expect. The only other team that has experience of the play offs is Millwall. I would put money on us as long as we make it to Wembley as the bigger pitch will suit our game better that the rest of them. I am not holding my breath for the welsh lot
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: notonfire1226 on April 23, 2018, 01:06:44 AM
i dont think so , with the luck cardiff are having all season i expect them to win 1-0 or score in the final second
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: colinwhite on April 23, 2018, 06:05:06 AM
Warnock has managed to get the Derby right up for that game . sweet justice if his mouth should cost them dearly.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: hovewhite on April 23, 2018, 06:18:22 AM
The fallout from the original game date and the Colin outburst,if that doesn't motivate derby then I don't no what will.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: SuffolkWhite on April 23, 2018, 08:39:53 AM
I had this one down as a draw but Derby's form of late would suggest a Cardiff win, thing is Cardiff (although committed) appear nervy as does Colin and the fans so it is evens who wins this. Hull have been my tip to inflict defeat on Cardiff for a little while now, so fingers crossed Cardiff panic and only draw on Tuesday.

Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Grumpy Worthing White on April 23, 2018, 09:03:31 AM
I can see Cardiff winning this, Derby seem to be in free fall.   093.gif
 
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Stevieboy on April 23, 2018, 09:07:02 AM
I think Derby May have had more of a chance had they played the original fixture.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Andy S on April 23, 2018, 10:31:27 AM
I have never been able to forgive Derby for their supporters denying us promotion under Malcolm McDonald. However If they manage to at least get a draw and hopefully a win against Cardiff City I will start to lighten my dislike for the club.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: EastEndWhite on April 23, 2018, 10:35:33 AM
A win for Derby puts them back into a playoff spot.  That should be enough motivation for them. A win for Cardiff means they only have to win one of their last two games to be promoted so they will be equally motivated.  So I have no idea who is going to win!
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: FFCSteve on April 23, 2018, 08:12:05 PM
I have to say there is more pressure on Cardiff! There must be nerves with us hot on their heals!
I fully believe we will win our last two games. Wormcock will be fully aware with our form! Two draws for them is all it will take!
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Wingnut on April 23, 2018, 08:25:40 PM
Heart says Derby are going to put in a winning performance and move back into the play off positions. Head says that Cardiff are going to battle hard and grind out a win.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Jem on April 23, 2018, 08:44:54 PM
Derby will only be looking out for themselves. Why should they want to do us a favour?
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Twig on April 23, 2018, 09:10:19 PM
Head says easy Cardiff win. Heart says Derby will knick it.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Milo on April 23, 2018, 09:37:04 PM
Cardiff will be absolutely going for it as a loss means as much as a draw. So nothing to lose in throwing men forward to go for victory. They will know a win means they've got one foot firmly in the Prem.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: JoelH5 on April 23, 2018, 10:09:04 PM
Quote from: Milo on April 23, 2018, 09:37:04 PM
Cardiff will be absolutely going for it as a loss means as much as a draw. So nothing to lose in throwing men forward to go for victory. They will know a win means they've got one foot firmly in the Prem.

All Cardiff do is get their CB Sean Morrisson in the box for headers. I don't get why teams don't just set up to counter attack? If their CB is in your box, you've got a pretty good chance with the counter attack
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Fulham Tup North on April 23, 2018, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: EastEndWhite on April 23, 2018, 10:35:33 AM
A win for Derby puts them back into a playoff spot.  That should be enough motivation for them. A win for Cardiff means they only have to win one of their last two games to be promoted so they will be equally motivated.  So I have no idea who is going to win!
Having watched them both play, I can only deduce one thing and that is that whatever the score, Football won't be the winner!!
COYW
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 23, 2018, 10:58:18 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 23, 2018, 09:10:19 PM
Head says easy Cardiff win. Heart says Derby will knick it.

My buttocks say a win for Derby, my bladder says a score draw.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Milo on April 23, 2018, 11:04:05 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on April 23, 2018, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: EastEndWhite on April 23, 2018, 10:35:33 AM
A win for Derby puts them back into a playoff spot.  That should be enough motivation for them. A win for Cardiff means they only have to win one of their last two games to be promoted so they will be equally motivated.  So I have no idea who is going to win!
Having watched them both play, I can only deduce one thing and that is that whatever the score, Football won't be the winner!!
COYW

I've bought six bottles of porter from the local microbrewery to sit through the game on Sky. Hope that'll be enough to numb the pain.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 24, 2018, 12:04:45 AM
Quote from: Milo on April 23, 2018, 11:04:05 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on April 23, 2018, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: EastEndWhite on April 23, 2018, 10:35:33 AM
A win for Derby puts them back into a playoff spot.  That should be enough motivation for them. A win for Cardiff means they only have to win one of their last two games to be promoted so they will be equally motivated.  So I have no idea who is going to win!
Having watched them both play, I can only deduce one thing and that is that whatever the score, Football won't be the winner!!
COYW

I've bought six bottles of porter from the local microbrewery to sit through the game on Sky. Hope that'll be enough to numb the pain.

Fuller's Porter a Dark style of beer. You lucky man.
Me thinks you could be celebrating a home win for the Rams. 🍻
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: KingofCheese on April 24, 2018, 12:13:39 AM
If Cardiff go up automatically they will certainly deserve it. We have been on an unprecedented undefeated run and still can't pass them on a like for like basis. I really hope Derby win but as they are really rubbish now and have been in free fall for months I just can't see it, however I live in hope. Mind you I also thought we would beat Brentford and draw or lose to Millwall so I know nothing about football!
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: MrFFC on April 24, 2018, 08:00:11 AM
Really hope Derby win tonight but have a feeling Cardiff will win 2-1
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: rusty shackleford on April 24, 2018, 11:39:22 AM
I really feel that Cardiff are gonna do them and the autos will be done and dusted tonight. However you just never know
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on April 24, 2018, 12:15:26 PM
I think a derby win here.
Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: BedsFFC on April 24, 2018, 01:34:14 PM
A derby perspective


I want Fulham to go up as it will be a reward for playing good, attacking, attractive football

I don't want Fulham to go up because it's the best away day in the Championship



I don't want to Cardiff to go up because I dislike their manager and their style of play, and they are from Wales

I want Cardiff to go up so we don't have anything to do with them next season.



Title: Re: Will Derby really do us a favour?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 24, 2018, 01:51:39 PM
Quote from: BedsFFC on April 24, 2018, 01:34:14 PM
A derby perspective


I want Fulham to go up as it will be a reward for playing good, attacking, attractive football

I don't want Fulham to go up because it's the best away day in the Championship



I don't want to Cardiff to go up because I dislike their manager and their style of play, and they are from Wales

I want Cardiff to go up so we don't have anything to do with them next season.





From a Derby perspective

I want Derby County to go up because I want Premier League Football next season, and all the millions of English Pounds it will bring to Derby County, therefore attracting better quality players, and all the publicity and promotions and sponsorship that goes with it, including attracting bigger crowds.