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Title: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Andy S on April 28, 2018, 08:26:09 AM
On the Cardiff forum under the headline disgrace at the cottage, they are accusing the FA the refs and the media of bias in our favour. They say
1 Sunderland should have had a penalty when they were 1-0 up
2 Mitro was off side for his goal
3 Mitro should not have been playing as he should have been serving a ban following his elbowing incident.
Do they have a case?
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: cookieg on April 28, 2018, 08:28:10 AM
Whinging sheep shaggers  :005:
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Steeeeeeeeeed on April 28, 2018, 08:32:58 AM
Warnock should have had some serious action for telling an opposing manager to F Off four or five times. Taking the game into disrepute.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: RaySmith on April 28, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
They're having a laugh.

I don't think it was a clear pen , even seeing it in slow motion, and the ref is supposed to be 100% sure to give it.

Offside was marginal, if at all.

These decisions happen all the time in every game- happened to us yesterday- a number of free kicks given to Sunderland when it was obviously a case of the ref being conned, and has happened to us all through the season.

Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: andyk on April 28, 2018, 08:36:39 AM
Maybe, but I watched their game against Forest and the ref let their players hold the Forest goalkeeper to the ground at every set piece. Their first goal was a corner with a Cardiff player literally grappling with the keeper leaving a free header for one of the giants, masquerading as footballers,  that play for them.We got a couple of decisions, but that happens.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: RaySmith on April 28, 2018, 08:39:14 AM
Quote from: andyk on April 28, 2018, 08:36:39 AM
Maybe, but I watched their game against Forest and the ref let their players hold the Forest goalkeeper to the ground at every set piece. Their first goal was a corner with a Cardiff player literally grappling with the keeper leaving a free header for one of the giants, masquerading as footballers,  that play for them.We got a couple of decisions, but that happens.
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Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: grandad on April 28, 2018, 08:40:53 AM
With regard to the pen shout. Their player hung his leg out in an un-natural way to cause contact with Ream´s leg. This is why the ref waved the appeal away. Their player should have been carded for trying to gain an unfair advantage.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Jamie88 on April 28, 2018, 08:41:49 AM
I think you have to imagine being in their shoes - personally, if it were Cardiff playing last night I'd have been fuming at the fact that no penalty was given and that the goal was offside, albeit marginally
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: bobbo on April 28, 2018, 08:53:25 AM
We'd be doing the same , it looked a penalty to me and mitro offside. They have a case . But who cares about them.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Jem on April 28, 2018, 09:06:47 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on April 28, 2018, 08:41:49 AM
I think you have to imagine being in their shoes - personally, if it were Cardiff playing last night I'd have been fuming at the fact that no penalty was given and that the goal was offside, albeit marginally

That is exactly what I thought. it's hard not to be biased to your own team.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Nero on April 28, 2018, 09:11:46 AM
Cardiff can go play in the league of Wales if there that unhappy, there be a big club there
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Cambridge Pete on April 28, 2018, 09:17:04 AM
I seem to recall many years ago an Interview with Brian Clough after his side had lost after being denied a clear penalty. The interviewer was hoping for an outbust. However all Clough said was something like. Young man last year we won a semi final after getting away with the ref not giving a clear penalty. I did not complain then so why should I now, it all evens out. Pure Class and I'm not sure last night was a clear penalty.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Andy S on April 28, 2018, 09:20:13 AM
The only thing that matters is we have the three points..
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Holders on April 28, 2018, 09:29:24 AM
It's sour grapes because Sunderland player better than Cardiff did in the last several games - when they got the luck.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Fulham76 on April 28, 2018, 09:38:38 AM
Quote from: Andy S on April 28, 2018, 08:26:09 AM
On the Cardiff forum under the headline disgrace at the cottage, they are accusing the FA the refs and the media of bias in our favour. They say
1 Sunderland should have had a penalty when they were 1-0 up
2 Mitro was off side for his goal
3 Mitro should not have been playing as he should have been serving a ban following his elbowing incident.
Do they have a case?


It should have been a penalty, absolutely. It was about as clear as they come & I'd be annoyed if it was the other way round.

The off side was so close, it could have gone either way but personally think he was onside. I was trying to see where his feet were on the replay & they looked pretty much level with the defender, so onside I reckon.

As for Mitro not being sent off last week, he wouldn't have needed to retaliate had that ref done his job properly & sent off Cahill. Are the Cardiff fans also peed off that the ref missed the Cahill elbow or is it just decisions that went our way that upset them??
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Dodger53 on April 28, 2018, 09:45:38 AM
The player was dragging one leg through the challenges just waiting to go down, when he did the ref waved play on. No penalty - good decision. Too many penalties given for this type of cheating IMO.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: JoelH5 on April 28, 2018, 09:50:11 AM
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on April 28, 2018, 08:32:58 AM
Warnock should have had some serious action for telling an opposing manager to F Off four or five times. Taking the game into disrepute.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: SP on April 28, 2018, 09:52:46 AM
Feels like clutching at straws to me, had the ref booked their players for kicking the ball away etc etc.  They should worry more about 3 loses in their last 5 games.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on April 28, 2018, 10:52:17 AM
In my opinion its a disgrace that that Sunderland raised their game against us when they should have been more deferential to their footballing masters!

Having already been relegated they should have rolled over and made it easy for us!

My comment above is really just a load of b@ll@cks, as is the whining from Cardiff !
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Lighthouse on April 28, 2018, 11:02:55 AM
I can understand the Cardiff fans being nervous and moaning about everything. But like their manager who always manages to play Cardiff down as being a small club punching above its weight. Which is nonsense. Seems to have rubbed off on them. The fact they are that ready to throw accusations about is only good for us. Think how far ahead they were and it's not as if they have been on a poor run. I guess it's natural to be scared.

But as their manager has pointed out. Their aim was always the play offs and he is successful regards to taking teams through that. We on the other hand look tired and are picking up injuries and have never won a play off match. Time for us all to be nervous.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Tabby on April 28, 2018, 11:45:20 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on April 28, 2018, 08:41:49 AM
I think you have to imagine being in their shoes - personally, if it were Cardiff playing last night I'd have been fuming at the fact that no penalty was given and that the goal was offside, albeit marginally

:plus one:

I can understand why they're frustrated.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 28, 2018, 12:38:34 PM
Quote from: Nero on April 28, 2018, 09:11:46 AM
Cardiff can go play in the league of Wales if there that unhappy, there be a big club there

Exactly. They are lucky to be allowed to play in the English League, and we don't have to put up with their selective moaning and whinging.
They have had plenty of their share of luck, they don't know how lucky they are.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: gezkc on April 28, 2018, 12:45:55 PM
Quote from: Statto on April 28, 2018, 11:43:13 AM
It must be very frustrating for them

Warnock puts in all that effort pressurising and shouting at officials to ensure his team get favourable treatment. He is even so diligent as to complain when games are postponed due to snow.

And then we come along and get the same treatment through sheer luck, without our manager having done any of that

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Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: SP on April 28, 2018, 05:58:41 PM
Wonder if the same Bluebirds fans are complaining this evening that their second goal today looked yards offside?
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: KJS on April 28, 2018, 10:51:05 PM
Personally I don't give a toss about what the whinging Welsh spanners think no pen given goal not disallowed and Mitro not suspended so where's the problem COYE
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: The Rock on April 29, 2018, 02:11:00 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 28, 2018, 11:02:55 AM
I can understand the Cardiff fans being nervous and moaning about everything. But like their manager who always manages to play Cardiff down as being a small club punching above its weight. Which is nonsense. Seems to have rubbed off on them. The fact they are that ready to throw accusations about is only good for us. Think how far ahead they were and it's not as if they have been on a poor run. I guess it's natural to be scared.

But as their manager has pointed out. Their aim was always the play offs and he is successful regards to taking teams through that. We on the other hand look tired and are picking up injuries and have never won a play off match. Time for us all to be nervous.

We look tired and picking up injuries?
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: KJS on April 29, 2018, 07:12:03 AM
Sounds like Colin is once again being a dick
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Fernhurst on April 29, 2018, 07:46:45 AM
Quote from: KJS on April 29, 2018, 07:12:03 AM
Sounds like Colin is once again being a dick

Dicks are useful, Colin is a complete and utter ******

His technical ability as a coach knows no bounds. Watch the highlights and wonder at the line-out routine they execute at corners. Two men hold the keeper whilst the third Monster Munch comes flying in to bundle the ball into the net, absolute class in awe inspiring tribute to 80's style Wimbledon.

Can't believe Colin will be a Premiership manager. His cleverest move would be to retire after next week and not expose his massive inadequacies next season.

Don't sound too bitter do I?   
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 29, 2018, 07:52:27 AM
Quote from: Fernhurst on April 29, 2018, 07:46:45 AM
Quote from: KJS on April 29, 2018, 07:12:03 AM
Sounds like Colin is once again being a dick

Dicks are useful, Colin is a complete and utter ******

His technical ability as a coach knows no bounds. Watch the highlights and wonder at the line-out routine they execute at corners. Two men hold the keeper whilst the third Monster Munch comes flying in to bundle the ball into the net, absolute class in awe inspiring tribute to 80's style Wimbledon.

Can't believe Colin will be a Premiership manager. His cleverest move would be to retire after next week and not expose his massive inadequacies next season.

Don't sound too bitter do I?   

You are far too lenient, and kind.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: grandad on April 29, 2018, 08:33:46 AM
Should they get into the Prem they will be a disgrace to the best Division in the World. If Colin persists in playing his style they will come straight down. It is highly unlikely that he or his squad will overnight change the way they play.
If we should get promotion our ethic will be a joy to watch & would be welcomed by all football purists.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Andy S on April 29, 2018, 10:41:35 AM
I am not standing up for him but without a doubt the hardest part is getting there. His style of football is very effective. If they play that way with those players they may do well as Wimbledon did in the past. However it is not pleasing on the eye and the premier league will shed no tears if they get relegated again
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Holders on April 29, 2018, 10:43:49 AM
They've achieve all that they have under no less a manager than Neil Warnock...

...and there is no less a manager than Neil Warnock.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Milo on April 29, 2018, 11:28:00 AM
I've reached the acceptance stage of the five stages of grief.

Derby in the playoffs!
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Fernhurst on April 29, 2018, 11:34:58 AM
Quote from: Milo on April 29, 2018, 11:28:00 AM
I've reached the acceptance stage of the five stages of grief.

Derby in the playoffs!


You would never guess........ I'm still at Anger/denial
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Fulham Tup North on April 29, 2018, 11:50:20 AM
Quote from: Fernhurst on April 29, 2018, 11:34:58 AM
Quote from: Milo on April 29, 2018, 11:28:00 AM
I've reached the acceptance stage of the five stages of grief.

You would never guess........ I'm still at Denial

No your not!! 😂.  :yay:
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Milo on April 29, 2018, 12:01:29 PM
I was at denial last week!

I think Warnock has ensured the anger remained a constant throughout the past few months so it never really peaked..
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: VillaCraven on April 29, 2018, 12:01:57 PM
Ignore all the comments. GAME OVER - CONCENTRATE ON THE NEXT ONE - make more noise and trust the team to get a result.
THAT IS ALL WE CAN DO.
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: Stevieboy on April 29, 2018, 12:09:47 PM
Cardiff come unstuck against footballing sides, their style is very effective against the average sides who play a similar bombardment style of football.
Unfortunately there are less footballing sides so consequently the Cardiff style,on average, yields more points against the lesser sides. With the footballing sides sharing out the points it allows Cardiff to creep away!!
I think I'd prefer our style,top of the Championship, big attendances and entertainment than struggling in the Prem, disgruntled support and the regular hammering!!  Good luck Cardiff!!!

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Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: terryr on April 29, 2018, 10:08:16 PM
We are going up
Playoffs or auto
Doesn't matter
Believe
On to the next game.
After that
On to the next game
That said I followed the Cardiff game yesterday minute by excruciating miniute yesterday from Brazil
Title: Re: Disgrace at the Cottage
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on April 30, 2018, 02:08:26 PM
Instead of enjoying their advantage going into the final week of the season, they're busy worrying about a match that they weren't even involved in.

Their complaints have the ring of fear to them.

I hope their players' minds are on our match results too.