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Title: Its Not All Over
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 04:50:44 PM
Funny things happen in football that is least expected.
We Could draw at Brum and Reading go and do Cardiff(the pressure on them),It happens.
We go up on goal difference... 049:gif
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: FFC365 on April 28, 2018, 04:54:15 PM
Reading are losing 0-4 at home, fat chance of them getting a result at Cardiff next week, it's time to focus on the play offs lads.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: andyk on April 28, 2018, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: FFC365 on April 28, 2018, 04:54:15 PM
Reading are losing 0-4 at home, fat chance of them getting a result at Cardiff next week, it's time to focus on the play offs lads.

And Hull scored 5 away from home and, this week, couldn't muster one shot on target.
I can see it now, Sone Aluko, snaking his way past the statuesque giants in the Cardiff defence, last minute, top corner.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: The Rock on April 28, 2018, 04:59:32 PM
Both Reading and Birmingham will only be assured of staying up with a win.

Both us and Cardiff should win, but I could see Cardiff buckling before us. Hard to imagine that happening against Reading, but football isn't a game played on paper.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Neil D on April 28, 2018, 04:59:51 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 04:50:44 PM
Funny things happen in football that is least expected.
We Could draw at Brum and Reading go and do Cardiff(the pressure on them),It happens.
We go up on goal difference... 049:gif
079.gif.  Come on, going up at a Wembley play-off final is much more exciting.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:00:14 PM
Things sometimes go full circle,they beat us in playoffs last season,now they will send us up.😁
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: RaySmith on April 28, 2018, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 04:50:44 PM
Funny things happen in football that is least expected.
We Could draw at Brum and Reading go and do Cardiff(the pressure on them),It happens.
We go up on goal difference... 049:gif
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Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: EastEndWhite on April 28, 2018, 05:13:31 PM
Quote from: FFC365 on April 28, 2018, 04:54:15 PM
Reading are losing 0-4 at home, fat chance of them getting a result at Cardiff next week, it's time to focus on the play offs lads.

I think I'll wait until next Sunday's match is over before starting to worry about the playoffs.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: davew on April 28, 2018, 05:14:36 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:00:14 PM
Things sometimes go full circle,they beat us in playoffs last season,now they will send us up.😁
On the other hand, our historic record of play off matches is terrible, never won 1 as far as I can remember, time to change that!!
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:17:20 PM
Paul Clement will butcher his side at this moment in the dressing room,telling them they are the worst players he's ever managed and you'll all be out the door in the Summer....Players will perform at Cardiff .
Cardiff 0 Reading 3....Boom Boom.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: JoelH5 on April 28, 2018, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:17:20 PM
Paul Clement will butcher his side at this moment in the dressing room,telling them they are the worst players he's ever managed and you'll all be out the door in the Summer....Players will perform at Cardiff .
Cardiff 0 Reading 3....Boom Boom.

Let me have some of whatever you're smoking
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:24:23 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on April 28, 2018, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:17:20 PM
Paul Clement will butcher his side at this moment in the dressing room,telling them they are the worst players he's ever managed and you'll all be out the door in the Summer....Players will perform at Cardiff .
Cardiff 0 Reading 3....Boom Boom.

Let me have some of whatever you're smoking

I've seen it many times,people because of Reading result today will think Cardiff will stuff them,it doesn't happen on many occasions... I'm going to have a nice bet on Reading...Coyw
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: rusty shackleford on April 28, 2018, 05:33:19 PM
Cardiff are gonna destroy Reading
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:34:09 PM
Quote from: Statto on April 28, 2018, 05:24:36 PM
Thank you Mince.

Lots of people whinging on here and saying it's all over. I take it they would have rested our best players when we were 4-1 down to juventus on aggregate in 2010 and when we were 2-0 down at Man City 2 years earlier... or when we were 8 points behind Cardiff a few weeks ago

If you think Jokanovic will rest players for Birmingham you are mad or smoking something wacky

Reading need a win to stay up. this is the championship. Anything can happen

Yep it ain't over till the Lady sings.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: cookieg on April 28, 2018, 05:38:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:17:20 PM
Paul Clement will butcher his side at this moment in the dressing room,telling them they are the worst players he's ever managed and you'll all be out the door in the Summer....Players will perform at Cardiff .
Cardiff 0 Reading 3....Boom Boom.

You missed off a boom........unless the nurses tightened the straps on your straight jacket before you could type it!!
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:44:44 PM
Quote from: cookieg on April 28, 2018, 05:38:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:17:20 PM
Paul Clement will butcher his side at this moment in the dressing room,telling them they are the worst players he's ever managed and you'll all be out the door in the Summer....Players will perform at Cardiff .
Cardiff 0 Reading 3....Boom Boom.

You missed off a boom........unless the nurses tightened the straps on your straight jacket before you could type it!!

Oh yee of little faith.Coyw
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 28, 2018, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:34:09 PM
Quote from: Statto on April 28, 2018, 05:24:36 PM
Thank you Mince.

Lots of people whinging on here and saying it's all over. I take it they would have rested our best players when we were 4-1 down to juventus on aggregate in 2010 and when we were 2-0 down at Man City 2 years earlier... or when we were 8 points behind Cardiff a few weeks ago

If you think Jokanovic will rest players for Birmingham you are mad or smoking something wacky

Reading need a win to stay up. this is the championship. Anything can happen

Yep it ain't over till the Lady sings.

Plump Lady
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: filham on April 28, 2018, 06:38:37 PM
The funny thing is that on the last day of the season we have two promotion contenders each playing relegation candidates.

I now have on eye firmly fixed on the play offs and am thinking that we may well have to overcome Derby and Villa.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: The Old Count on April 28, 2018, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: Statto on April 28, 2018, 05:24:36 PM
Thank you Mince.

Lots of people whinging on here and saying it's all over. I take it they would have rested our best players when we were 4-1 down to juventus on aggregate in 2010 and when we were 2-0 down at Man City 2 years earlier... or when we were 8 points behind Cardiff a few weeks ago

If you think Jokanovic will rest players for Birmingham you are mad or smoking something wacky

Reading need a win to stay up. this is the championship. Anything can happen

Spot on Statto.

Reading will draw at Cardiff.  We will win at Brum. 

COYW
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: FFCSteve on April 28, 2018, 07:26:29 PM
Reading only need a draw! They will play for this, rather than go all out for a win with a bigger risk of loosing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmENMZFUU_0
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on April 28, 2018, 07:27:13 PM
The formbook is irrelevant

Reading will win @ Cardiff (due to home pressure) & cos Reading have to!

Us to draw or beat Brum(away for us not so pressured, pressure on Brum)

We take second place

Extraordinary finish to the season

Punch after punch thrown & taken, by both Cardiff & ourselves

Swopping 2nd place every time

All talk of "what if's - e.g. Brentford's very late equaliser, Cardiff should have beaten Derby now totally irrelevant & immaterial

Never thought that I would sing this but "come on you Royals!"

Nurse where's my tablets?

Knock me out until it's all over....

Then Shahid rattles a few bars on cages with the Wemberlee plans

Trust him to go one further than MAF's twin tower idea.....

COYW!!
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: davew on April 28, 2018, 07:56:11 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:24:23 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on April 28, 2018, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 28, 2018, 05:17:20 PM
Paul Clement will butcher his side at this moment in the dressing room,telling them they are the worst players he's ever managed and you'll all be out the door in the Summer....Players will perform at Cardiff .
Cardiff 0 Reading 3....Boom Boom.

Let me have some of whatever you're smoking

I've seen it many times,people because of Reading result today will think Cardiff will stuff them,it doesn't happen on many occasions... I'm going to have a nice bet on Reading...Coyw
Sorry Mince, I am going to have a nice bet on you losing!
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Fulham Tup North on April 28, 2018, 08:09:52 PM
Cardiff v Reading LIVE on Sky next Sunday.....they will also keep showing the B'ham v Fulham, as the 'goals go in'!!  and of course the constant 'table update'.
Better than nothing if you cannot get a ticket :)
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: spoonffc on April 28, 2018, 08:31:45 PM
Wouldn't it be fulhamish for reading, the team that broke our hearts last year in the playoffs to do us the favour we need, and furthermore for aluko to hit the target for a change and score the winner
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Nero on April 28, 2018, 08:33:59 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on April 28, 2018, 08:09:52 PM
Cardiff v Reading LIVE on Sky next Sunday.....they will also keep showing the B'ham v Fulham, as the 'goals go in'!!  and of course the constant 'table update'.
Better than nothing if you cannot get a ticket :)

surely they will have brum v fulham on the red button now it a final day decider, they love that kind of thing and hype it to death
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on April 29, 2018, 03:07:21 AM
Reading are something like 40/1 to be relegated, all bar a catastrophic set of results happening, which are likely NOT to happen.

Anyone thinking that Reading are capable of getting ANYTHING from Cardiff, are absolutely off their rocker.

Reading are rotten to the core, and will turn up to Cardiff, with the same mentality they've had all season.

If anything, we've got a tougher job on our hands getting something from Birmingham, who will scrap.

Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: WokinghamWhite on April 29, 2018, 07:27:14 AM
I went to the Reading match yesterday. They played well for the first 70 minutes and would have been 1-0 up except for a world class save by the Ipswich keeper early in the second half, but then Reading fell apart in the last 20 minutes. There was a huge amount of booing at the end and only a thousand people bothered to stay for the lap of honour. Paul Clement pulled no punches in his post-match interview. He said: "We're now in a situation we wanted to avoid. We have to get something at Cardiff or it is in the lap of the gods. The players have got to put in the performance of their lives next weekend. We're professionals and we've got to make sure we reflect honestly on what happened today and move onto Sunday." I think the Reading players will be highly motivated next weekend and there might be some surprises.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Nero on April 29, 2018, 10:21:51 AM
The good thing about Reading being thumped yesterday was that Clement was not happy at all, he will want a good showing against Cardiff for his own personal pride he's new in that job and a second thumping might lead to a sacking in the summer.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: copthornemike on April 29, 2018, 05:19:38 PM
To put things into perspective we are in a much better place than the likes of Derby, Preston or Millwall who will be sweating over even getting into the play offs
23 unbeaten and still going strong  049:gif
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: choice_of_ends on April 29, 2018, 06:18:23 PM
Even if Barnsley, Burton and Bolton all would be leading, as long as we are in front against Birmingham, Reading has to do nothing. Reading would only be under pressure, if Birmingham would be in front. And then come hell or high water, we have to finish it in Wembley.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: FulhamStu on April 29, 2018, 07:28:15 PM
It will be pride that will motivate Reading to go on hols with at least some sort of plus.
The 4-0 late disaster is a perfect scenario for us.

We just need to win our game.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: choice_of_ends on April 29, 2018, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: Statto on April 29, 2018, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: choice_of_ends on April 29, 2018, 06:18:23 PM
Even if Barnsley, Burton and Bolton all would be leading, as long as we are in front against Birmingham, Reading has to do nothing. Reading would only be under pressure, if Birmingham would be in front. And then come hell or high water, we have to finish it in Wembley.

The only way Reading will know they have nothing to do is if they're told at half time that at least two of the teams around them are 2-0 or 3-0 down, which is possibly but not likely. In the much more likely scenario that Birmingham and a couple of the others are all still 0-0 at half time, they'll be sh1tting themselves and thinking they need a result. And they won't find out until the final whistle in their game how those other games have gone.
As long as Reading is on a draw, they are completely save. Only if they are losing they have to match the result of Birmingham. With other words, if we would have an early lead of 2 or 3 nil, Reading is save. The longer our game at Birmingham is a draw the better!
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Holders on April 29, 2018, 07:45:18 PM
Quote from: Statto on April 29, 2018, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: choice_of_ends on April 29, 2018, 06:18:23 PM
Even if Barnsley, Burton and Bolton all would be leading, as long as we are in front against Birmingham, Reading has to do nothing. Reading would only be under pressure, if Birmingham would be in front. And then come hell or high water, we have to finish it in Wembley.

The only way Reading will know they have nothing to do is if they're told at half time that at least two of the teams around them are 2-0 or 3-0 down, which is possibly but not likely. In the much more likely scenario that Birmingham and a couple of the others are all still 0-0 at half time, they'll be sh1tting themselves and thinking they need a result. And they won't find out until the final whistle in their game how those other games have gone.

Exactly, they'll be playing for what they can get, notwithstanding that quite a bit would need to go against them, they can't count on that. Whether they have what it takes ti get anything is quite another matter. That's what makes it interesting but wouldn't it be ironic if Reading do the business but we trip up at Brum. Now that would be sickening.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: JoelH5 on April 29, 2018, 08:19:13 PM
Think about it... why would the management team tell the players the other scores until the end.. Derby should have been 6 down vs Cardiff first half last week then somehow scored three in the second half. The other teams could be 2 down each and pull off miracles to stay up. Unlikely but they could. No way in hell would the Reading coaching staff be stupid enough to tell the team the scores at Half time, unless they're going down, which would really get them fighting!
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: JoelH5 on April 29, 2018, 08:22:06 PM
Quote from: Statto on April 29, 2018, 08:13:39 PM
Quote from: choice_of_ends on April 29, 2018, 07:42:43 PM
As long as Reading is on a draw, they are completely save.

We only need them to draw, if we can win

We can draw and go up. Last minute Sone Aluko screamer to put Fulham into the Premiership!
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: choice_of_ends on April 29, 2018, 08:26:00 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on April 29, 2018, 08:22:06 PM
Quote from: Statto on April 29, 2018, 08:13:39 PM
Quote from: choice_of_ends on April 29, 2018, 07:42:43 PM
As long as Reading is on a draw, they are completely save.

We only need them to draw, if we can win

We can draw and go up. Last minute Sone Aluko screamer to put Fulham into the Premiership!
I would even take a Chris Martin header!
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 30, 2018, 06:29:11 AM
I'm optimistic about Sunday the reason I started the thread,I believe if we all think the same way we could get a result.
The final day of the season does always in all the leagues throw up the unexpected, and I've just got the feeling that Reading getting thrashed by Ipswich will work in our favour.
I remember at start of the season Yeovil getting 8 put past them at Luton,the following week they beat Accrington Stanley who have gone on to win the league.
As Jimmy Greaves used to say "Its a funny old game Saint"............. Believe. 049:gif 049:gif 049:gif
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: RaySmith on April 30, 2018, 07:15:21 AM
It's true - anything could happen.

With  our magnificent  support behind  them, I know the team will leave everything on the pitch at Brum, out battle and outplay them and get the three points, and who knows what  the Cardiff Reading result will be?

The script hasn't been written yet, and we can write it- so that Fulham  get the  automatic promotion that their tremendous run deserves.

It's not the time to give up, but to be determined - together we can do it 049:gif

COYSW!!!! :clap_hands:
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Fulham Tup North on April 30, 2018, 07:54:30 AM
The best thing is that Reading NEED a point to guarantee their survival.
After getting thumped by Ipswich (although they held them at bay for 70 mins), they will want to show some pride.......hopefully!! 😀
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on April 30, 2018, 09:31:44 AM
Something which everyone seems to have overlooked here is the 'Warnock Factor'.
I am surprised that no one has picked up on the fact that he referred to our game as 'that crap on Friday evening', but as much as we all hate the man he certainly motivates his teams in a way that no other manager does.
Cardiff have slipped up this season, but lately have shown more determination than nerves,plus a little luck which we all need.
I would love to see him fall flat on his face, but I just cannot see Cardiff bottling it at this stage.
That is not the Warnock way.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: toshes mate on April 30, 2018, 09:54:58 AM
I am a fan of Mince n Tatties optimism because it's the only way to enjoy the many lifetimes we live 'between games' those interludes which allow some of us to get busy bedevilling ourselves with things that may never happen instead of looking at all the possibilities of what could happen.

The only things decided at the top of the table is that Wolves are Champions, neither Fulham nor Cardiff can finish worse than third and Villa and 'Boro will be in the playoffs. 

Meanwhile Reading, Birmingham, Barnsley, Burton and Bolton fans are looking at what may be their last game in the Championship for at least a year, and we think we have problems.  I think any one of their fans, and Derby and PNE fans would swap places with any one of us in a heartbeat.   
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: WokinghamWhite on April 30, 2018, 10:21:37 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on April 30, 2018, 09:54:58 AM
I am a fan of Mince n Tatties optimism because it's the only way to enjoy the many lifetimes we live 'between games' those interludes which allow some of us to get busy bedevilling ourselves with things that may never happen instead of looking at all the possibilities of what could happen.

The only things decided at the top of the table is that Wolves are Champions, neither Fulham nor Cardiff can finish worse than third and Villa and 'Boro will be in the playoffs. 

Meanwhile Reading, Birmingham, Barnsley, Burton and Bolton fans are looking at what may be their last game in the Championship for at least a year, and we think we have problems.  I think any one of their fans, and Derby and PNE fans would swap places with any one of us in a heartbeat.   

Quite right. How many people on this forum thought back in mid-December that we would be going to Birmingham City with a real shot at automatic promotion? I certainly didn't. This has been an extraordinary season, we've seen some wonderful football and the rollercoaster ride is still not over.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Benladdie3000 on April 30, 2018, 10:47:04 AM
 I'm pretty sure it's all over, cardiff have been the better team over the season, and have the easier game on sunday. I doth my proverbial cap to them.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Benladdie3000 on April 30, 2018, 11:18:40 AM
Oh very funny. I'm just being a realist. Can't see them losing to reading
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: H3Matt on April 30, 2018, 11:34:29 AM
Quote from: Benladdie3000 on April 30, 2018, 11:18:40 AM
Oh very funny. I'm just being a realist. Can't see them losing to reading

We don't need Cardiff to lose, just a draw will do and we'll go up on goal difference (providing we beat Birmingham).

Oh how delightful it would be for Cardiff to be 2-1 up, 4 minutes of added time. The fans start celebrating and singing "We are going up!", only for Aluko to bend one past Etheridge, break thousands of Welsh hearts and send the away end into roars as Reading equalise. They stay up and deny Cardiff promotion.

What? I can dream, right?
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: PutneyPhil on April 30, 2018, 11:39:24 AM
Quote from: The Old Count on April 28, 2018, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: Statto on April 28, 2018, 05:24:36 PM
Thank you Mince.

Lots of people whinging on here and saying it's all over. I take it they would have rested our best players when we were 4-1 down to juventus on aggregate in 2010 and when we were 2-0 down at Man City 2 years earlier... or when we were 8 points behind Cardiff a few weeks ago

If you think Jokanovic will rest players for Birmingham you are mad or smoking something wacky

Reading need a win to stay up. this is the championship. Anything can happen

Spot on Statto.

Reading will draw at Cardiff.  We will win at Brum. 

COYW

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Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: EastEndWhite on April 30, 2018, 12:00:35 PM
Quote from: Benladdie3000 on April 30, 2018, 10:47:04 AM
I'm pretty sure it's all over, cardiff have been the better team over the season, and have the easier game on sunday. I doth my proverbial cap to them.

What's the weather like in Cardiff today?
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: toshes mate on April 30, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
Quote from: H3Matt on April 30, 2018, 11:34:29 AM
I can dream, right?
Yes you can because dreams are the stuff reality is made out of.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Holders on April 30, 2018, 12:05:18 PM
It's entirely correct to remain optimistic, even if the odds are somewhat against us. We'd expect the team to turn out to give their all at Birmingham, not go through the motions and lose just to get into the dressing room to find that Reading have won at Cardiff!
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Holders on April 30, 2018, 12:07:01 PM
Quote from: Benladdie3000 on April 30, 2018, 10:47:04 AM
I'm pretty sure it's all over, cardiff have been the better team over the season, and have the easier game on sunday. I doth my proverbial cap to them.

It's "doff", Mr. Warnock.
Title: Re: Its Not All Over
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 30, 2018, 08:30:10 PM
Quote from: Benladdie3000 on April 30, 2018, 10:47:04 AM
I'm pretty sure it's all over, cardiff have been the better team over the season, and have the easier game on sunday. I doth my proverbial cap to them.

Cardiff have been consistent in getting results, apart from a couple of blips, and they have their system of play, which is not for the purist.
Nevertheless, Warlock has got the best out of them, clearly does his homework, and they play to their strengths.
There style does create a lot of chances, and of course with Warlock you get what you see. He fights his corner, he is a strong motivator, and he would die for his players and he expects them to die for him, which is good philosophy for the way he operates.
Nothing wrong with that, especially if he is getting results, how can he be criticised.
Not forgetting the League Table never lies.
I have never been a fan of Cardiff, it goes back a long time. So that is one reason why I hope they do not go up automatically, especially at our expense.
If they were promoted, what sort of players would want to go there ?
When you say that Cardiff have been the better team, explain exactly at what ?
The other question I would ask you is, how long have you been a Cardiff City Season Ticket Holder. ?