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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ffcne on February 25, 2019, 10:29:00 AM

Title: Why is Ranieri still here?
Post by: ffcne on February 25, 2019, 10:29:00 AM
After not backing him fully in transfer window .
They obviously thought he was'nt up to getting us out of this mess.
So surely should have got rid at the end of January.
And taken a chance with Parker.
Title: Re: Why is Ranieri still here?
Post by: Sting of the North on February 25, 2019, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: ffcne on February 25, 2019, 10:29:00 AM
After not backing him fully in transfer window .
They obviously thought he was'nt up to getting us out of this mess.
So surely should have got rid at the end of January.
And taken a chance with Parker.

If we for argument's sake assume that they didn't try to back him in the transfer window, it is still not obvious that they thought that Ranieri was the problem. They may still think that he was and is the right choice for all we know.

It is also not obvious that Parker is the better alternative.

With the above said, I wouldn't be sad if they sacked Ranieri. I don't get the impression that he knows how to work with the players we have. Maybe the players are not good enough (and frankly, lots of things point to that) but I am fairly sure that they are at least better than what is currently being displayed in the games.
Title: Re: Why is Ranieri still here?
Post by: ffcne on February 25, 2019, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 25, 2019, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: ffcne on February 25, 2019, 10:29:00 AM
After not backing him fully in transfer window .
They obviously thought he was'nt up to getting us out of this mess.
So surely should have got rid at the end of January.
And taken a chance with Parker.

If we for argument's sake assume that they didn't try to back him in the transfer window, it is still not obvious that they thought that Ranieri was the problem. They may still think that he was and is the right choice for all we know.

It is also not obvious that Parker is the better alternative.

With the above said, I wouldn't be sad if they sacked Ranieri. I don't get the impression that he knows how to work with the players we have. Maybe the players are not good enough (and frankly, lots of things point to that) but I am fairly sure that they are at least better than what is currently being displayed in the games.

A couple of decent signings and who knows.
Could have been the boost we needed .
Ranieri seems to have given up.
Just like the players.
Title: Re: Why is Ranieri still here?
Post by: grumpy on February 25, 2019, 11:29:30 AM
On the subject of firing people, can anyone tell me why Brian Talbot and his son are still employed by the club, and what do they do apart from presumably scouting future opponents?
Title: Re: Why is Ranieri still here?
Post by: Jamie88 on February 25, 2019, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: grumpy on February 25, 2019, 11:29:30 AM
On the subject of firing people, can anyone tell me why Brian Talbot and his son are still employed by the club, and what do they do apart from presumably scouting future opponents?

Correct, it does seem odd to me that in professional football, managers come and go in the blink of an eye and yet backroom staff who may also be heavily to blame are kept on
Title: Re: Why is Ranieri still here?
Post by: Nero on February 25, 2019, 01:02:56 PM
Hes probably not been sacked because we have a relegation clause where we can get rid of him on the cheap
Title: Re: Why is Ranieri still here?
Post by: HV71 on February 25, 2019, 01:17:27 PM
Talbots and the Khans - we used to be seen as a family club for all the right reasons  - now I'm not quite as sure
Title: Re: Why is Ranieri still here?
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 26, 2019, 02:02:28 AM
Quote from: ffcne on February 25, 2019, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 25, 2019, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: ffcne on February 25, 2019, 10:29:00 AM
After not backing him fully in transfer window .
They obviously thought he was'nt up to getting us out of this mess.
So surely should have got rid at the end of January.
And taken a chance with Parker.

If we for argument's sake assume that they didn't try to back him in the transfer window, it is still not obvious that they thought that Ranieri was the problem. They may still think that he was and is the right choice for all we know.

It is also not obvious that Parker is the better alternative.

With the above said, I wouldn't be sad if they sacked Ranieri. I don't get the impression that he knows how to work with the players we have. Maybe the players are not good enough (and frankly, lots of things point to that) but I am fairly sure that they are at least better than what is currently being displayed in the games.

A couple of decent signings and who knows.
Could have been the boost we needed .
Ranieri seems to have given up.
Just like the players.

Every want Scott Parker, but proving that Parker is not upto the Premier League and then giving him a job in the Championship with the goal to get promoted seems mad.
Title: Re: Why is Ranieri still here?
Post by: Neil D on February 26, 2019, 09:42:17 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 25, 2019, 10:35:43 AM

It is also not obvious that Parker is the better alternative.

With the above said, I wouldn't be sad if they sacked Ranieri. I don't get the impression that he knows how to work with the players we have. Maybe the players are not good enough (and frankly, lots of things point to that) but I am fairly sure that they are at least better than what is currently being displayed in the games.
You're right about Parker.  Wanting Parker as manager is the Pavlovian reaction of desperate fans - let's have one of our own in charge etc.  Parker may well make a decent manager one day but this is not the job to cut his teeth on.  It's hard to see how any manager could get this expensively assembled team of misfits playing consistently well.  It just isn't fit for purpose.  So, sacking Ranieri now - even in the summer - would not address the current problem.  We need a new squad which a summer fire sale and terminated loans will bring about anyway.