To being in the championship next season.....the Riverside should be underway, and we'll hopefully see more wins than loses......and we could have a bright new manager in charger (Mr Parker)
More games at least so plenty of Saturday/midweek action, better chance of winning more than losing, cheaper tickets ideally, chance to learn the lessons of a poor mega recruirment drive over last summer too.
In a sense, yes it will most likely be less stressful and depressing than watching us this season. However, at the moment I am just looking towards next game and certainly not looking forward to a season in an inferior league. I will allow myself to pretend that it's currently not over until it's actually over. If we go down, I will be devastated, but come the start of next season some optimism has likely returned.
I have been thinking something similar myself. Premier league is all well and good but its a roundabout that's ever harder to get on and it don't half hurt when you fall off.
I think the champo fits us better. Just like you, I like to win a few games from time to time, even have a good season like last year, and not spend 90% of our season worrying how many places/points from the drop zone we are. I guess the Khans see it differently though. Can't blame them for ambition but after almost 60 years of following the whites, I've got used to the ups and downs. Every club has them, its a fact of football like. Doesn't mean I enjoy getting relegated, I'l be as miserable as sin for a bit but mission control understands that now and she just leaves me alone for a few days :010:
Not really no. Poorer standard of football with more opponents playing some sort of long ball game and some horrible crude physical challenges. Officials that aren't up to Prem standard (which in itself isn't always adequate).
It will not be too bad providing we can quickly establish ourselves in the top six and in the promotion race, mid table would be boring and bottom six really worrying.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 06, 2019, 05:35:55 PM
To being in the championship next season.....the Riverside should be underway, and we'll hopefully see more wins than loses......and we could have a bright new manager in charger (Mr Parker)
Other than more fan friendly kick off days/times what is the advantage of being in the championship??
I don't understand fans that look forward to championship football & use 'hopefully win more football games' as a reason. If we win too many games we'll be back in the premier league where a lot of fans suggest they don't want to be....
Personally I think we're in for another struggle next season. All our better players will be snapped up & we're in for another heck of a rebuild, again, and we'll do well to avoid league 1.
I think the Championship can be sometimes viewed with rose tinted glasses - we remember only the good times but it's easy to forget how crap the refereeing is and the tactics that some of the teams use. It's is equally easy to forget that it's very hard to get promoted back but easier to slide down to league one!
I forgot to add....another possible chance of a visit to Wembley.....
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 06, 2019, 07:02:08 PM
I forgot to add....another possible chance of a visit to Wembley.....
Yes it's time we Won the FA Cup, instead of keep being knocked out by lower opposition in the 3rd Round.
Not unless we can get the right manager - maybe Wagner, Parker.....
Starters right now fr next season - Betts, Bryan, Ream, Mawson, Christie, McDonald, Ayité, Fonte
Hopefully we can get O'Riley and some other U23s into the team. We will need to uncover a striker or 2, probably loanees, although after last year the lest we rely on them the better.
Of course we will have £60-70 Mill in transfer fees.
No not at all. Having worked our balls off to be promoted and to fulfill a dream of seeing FFC win at Wembley I am desperately disappointed to see it all disappear within 12 months. Added to which I struggle to make mid week games so that is money down the drain with my ST
Quote from: Fulham76 on March 06, 2019, 06:23:54 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 06, 2019, 05:35:55 PM
To being in the championship next season.....the Riverside should be underway, and we'll hopefully see more wins than loses......and we could have a bright new manager in charger (Mr Parker)
Other than more fan friendly kick off days/times what is the advantage of being in the championship??
I don't understand fans that look forward to championship football & use 'hopefully win more football games' as a reason. If we win too many games we'll be back in the premier league where a lot of fans suggest they don't want to be....
Personally I think we're in for another struggle next season. All our better players will be snapped up & we're in for another heck of a rebuild, again, and we'll do well to avoid league 1.
a lack of tourists....and a chance to re-build and kick on to the premiership
Quote from: Fulham76 on March 06, 2019, 06:23:54 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on March 06, 2019, 05:35:55 PM
To being in the championship next season.....the Riverside should be underway, and we'll hopefully see more wins than loses......and we could have a bright new manager in charger (Mr Parker)
Other than more fan friendly kick off days/times what is the advantage of being in the championship??
I don't understand fans that look forward to championship football & use 'hopefully win more football games' as a reason. If we win too many games we'll be back in the premier league where a lot of fans suggest they don't want to be....
Personally I think we're in for another struggle next season. All our better players will be snapped up & we're in for another heck of a rebuild, again, and we'll do well to avoid league 1.
Not sure all our better players will be snapped up as not sure they are that good. Some will but apart from Sess the rest will be looked at by lower Premier clubs and there is not many of those. We as a club have more money than most so should be in a position to fight off most clubs If the Khan's show some determination to get promoted again may even get most to stay.
Having grown up watching lower division football, it strikes me that the standard of football in the Championship is very very high. Clearly the premier league is higher still.
On Sunday a quick straw poll of season ticket holders near where I sit suggested no-one is planning to relinquish their seat if / when relegation happens. One or two waverers if by a miracle we survive and prices get hiked. We practically all renewed before promotion at Championship prices. The club has duly responded to our paying Championship prices by serving up Championship football.
Quote from: Buffalo76 on March 06, 2019, 05:44:04 PM
More games at least so plenty of Saturday/midweek action, better chance of winning more than losing, cheaper tickets ideally, chance to learn the lessons of a poor mega recruirment drive over last summer too.
Given the loss of income from the rebuild, I am not anticipating prices coming down that much
I am still, a little more optimistically after the events of last week, looking forward to the next game this season.
Still thinking of this season-of surviving, although I know it's unlikely, but could never accept defeat until it actually happens.
I think some have a rosy tinted view of the Championship, anyway. It can be tough and unforgiving, like when we hovered just above the relegation zone when Slavisa first took over from Kit.
Fulham have never bounced straight back up before, though why would you want to if you think the Championship is better?. but have gone straight in the other direction before. Well, then prices definitely would drop, I suppose.
Good things about the Championship - cheaper ticket prices, more games, and more wins - but if we get too many wins we will end up back in the Prem!
I wished we could forfeit the rest of the season, really looking forward to the championship back to winning ways......
We are not in the Championship yet, never surrender, plenty to play for no matter what happens.
I am sure Scott Parker will want to finish the season in a flourish.
So now that Scott is at the helm, I shall not concede defeat yet.
Yes, should hopefully be enjoyable. Easy to mess that first season going down right up and having another nightmare though.
Still don't think work starts on the Riverside.
PL vs CShip ??? Cr8p team, lost most of our games, higher prices, tourists ....
CShip is much better ... provided our ticket prices adjust properly.
As a very long term inmate at Fulham
I can tell you 100% I am absolutely hating the idea of being relegated and watching olde worlde football, being even more ignored by the media, having the possibility of relegation to League one, being unable to recruit top draw players (chance would be a fin thing with TK), lesser standard of opposition, not playing the top teams with the worlds best players on a regular basis.
The Championship for us now is a badge of failure and the stench of that is is unpleasant.
I like th Prem despite all its many apparent disadvantages, what is the point if you do not aspire to be at the top and we should be.
Quote from: ALG01 on March 07, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
As a very long term inmate at Fulham
I can tell you 100% I am absolutely hating the idea of being relegated and watching olde worlde football, being even more ignored by the media, having the possibility of relegation to League one, being unable to recruit top draw players (chance would be a fin thing with TK), lesser standard of opposition, not playing the top teams with the worlds best players on a regular basis.
The Championship for us now is a badge of failure and the stench of that is is unpleasant.
I like th Prem despite all its many apparent disadvantages, what is the point if you do not aspire to be at the top and we should be.
:plus one:
Quote from: ALG01 on March 07, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
As a very long term inmate at Fulham
I can tell you 100% I am absolutely hating the idea of being relegated and watching olde worlde football, being even more ignored by the media, having the possibility of relegation to League one, being unable to recruit top draw players (chance would be a fin thing with TK), lesser standard of opposition, not playing the top teams with the worlds best players on a regular basis.
The Championship for us now is a badge of failure and the stench of that is is unpleasant.
I like th Prem despite all its many apparent disadvantages, what is the point if you do not aspire to be at the top and we should be.
My sentiments exactly
Quote from: ALG01 on March 07, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
As a very long term inmate at Fulham
I can tell you 100% I am absolutely hating the idea of being relegated and watching olde worlde football, being even more ignored by the media, having the possibility of relegation to League one, being unable to recruit top draw players (chance would be a fin thing with TK), lesser standard of opposition, not playing the top teams with the worlds best players on a regular basis.
The Championship for us now is a badge of failure and the stench of that is is unpleasant.
I like th Prem despite all its many apparent disadvantages, what is the point if you do not aspire to be at the top and we should be.
Well said.
Quote from: ALG01 on March 07, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
As a very long term inmate at Fulham
I can tell you 100% I am absolutely hating the idea of being relegated and watching olde worlde football, being even more ignored by the media, having the possibility of relegation to League one, being unable to recruit top draw players (chance would be a fin thing with TK), lesser standard of opposition, not playing the top teams with the worlds best players on a regular basis.
The Championship for us now is a badge of failure and the stench of that is is unpleasant.
I like th Prem despite all its many apparent disadvantages, what is the point if you do not aspire to be at the top and we should be.
Could be argued that we played some pretty good football in our last season in the Championship!
Also, we attracted some great players e.g. Mitrovic. We saw a youth team player e.g. Sess grow into a first team player (when he probably wouldn't have had that chance in the Prem).
Played some big teams e.g. Villa with some big players e.g. Terry.
I think people need to embrace that the Championship is becoming what the Premiership used to be. Take away those top six or seven teams and leave a lot of great away days.
We will need to brace ourselves, no matter whether we stay up or go down.
Quote from: Milo on March 08, 2019, 01:11:52 AM
Quote from: ALG01 on March 07, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
As a very long term inmate at Fulham
I can tell you 100% I am absolutely hating the idea of being relegated and watching olde worlde football, being even more ignored by the media, having the possibility of relegation to League one, being unable to recruit top draw players (chance would be a fin thing with TK), lesser standard of opposition, not playing the top teams with the worlds best players on a regular basis.
The Championship for us now is a badge of failure and the stench of that is is unpleasant.
I like th Prem despite all its many apparent disadvantages, what is the point if you do not aspire to be at the top and we should be.
Could be argued that we played some pretty good football in our last season in the Championship!
Also, we attracted some great players e.g. Mitrovic. We saw a youth team player e.g. Sess grow into a first team player (when he probably wouldn't have had that chance in the Prem).
Played some big teams e.g. Villa with some big players e.g. Terry.
I think people need to embrace that the Championship is becoming what the Premiership used to be. Take away those top six or seven teams and leave a lot of great away days.
It's not and never will be "what the premiership used to be". There is no qualification for Europe, it doesn't offer the chance to pit yourselves against the best, it doesn't attract the best players, doesn't come close on prize money or TV rights cash, etc. The prem and previously the first division did that. The Championship is still division two dressed up in new clothes.
Not looking forward to the Championship but like the Championship, we play in a system of four divisions and should aspire to remain in the top flight.
I cant see the miracle happening unfortunately so the Championship is at least some consolation to enjoy football.
I will say I used to moan about the Ref's in the Champ but I find myself doing the same in the Prem, and I wont miss the bias the top teams get from officials.
Shame Norwich and Ipswich wont be in the Champ next season as easy away games for me.
I'm now resigned to relegation so, so long as the Riverside is under way and we've retained the essentials of the team without too much attrition, then I think I would enjoy next year. But the objective still has to be promotion, however enjoyable the second tier may be, I still want to see my team with a seat at the top table. The gap between the PL and the "Championship" has obviously grown so much wider, with the top teams in the PL pulling away still further, that it's essential to build a foothold there before it's unattainable. The last (avoidable) relegation showed us that.
When you look at almost half the teams in the premier league they are no better than we should be. So the answer is no but I'm hopeful of a good season
Quote from: Robbie on March 07, 2019, 02:28:06 PM
PL vs CShip ??? Cr8p team, lost most of our games, higher prices, tourists ....
CShip is much better ... provided our ticket prices adjust properly.
Can't see the prices going down to much (hope I am wrong), the riverside stand development will mean a loss of income. My guess is the prices will remain higher than before in the championship (if we go down as it seems likely) due to loss of income
To me looking forward to next season and writing this one off, is like wishing your life away, it's the present that's important, especially in football maybe!
We have matches to play with potential points to be won, and expect the team to give their all, presumably, in every game, in an attempt to win each one, otherwise what would be the point of attending or taking any kind of interest in the 9 games coming up.
We have to attempt to win every match, no matter what happens. To finish the season in a flourish, will build confidence and good habits, and will leave the team/ manager/ club/ supporters in a much better frame of mind to build on for next season which ever Division we may find ourselves in.
Of course we should and do aspire to be in the Prem. That doesn't mean the Championship is awful: it's an entertaining league with some excellent football played.
I like the fact that it isn't dominated by a handful of big clubs.
Getting relegated is disappointing, but it's not a disaster. Rebuild and regroup, and have another go next season.
In the meantime, try and finish this season with whatever is left of our dignity and self-respect.
Suppose it's like "he who is bored of London is bored of life"
Quote from: Holders on March 08, 2019, 08:52:52 AM
I'm now resigned to relegation so, so long as the Riverside is under way and we've retained the essentials of the team without too much attrition, then I think I would enjoy next year. But the objective still has to be promotion, however enjoyable the second tier may be, I still want to see my team with a seat at the top table. The gap between the PL and the "Championship" has obviously grown so much wider, with the top teams in the PL pulling away still further, that it's essential to build a foothold there before it's unattainable. The last (avoidable) relegation showed us that.
We need to not only get promoted but like Wolves develop a core squad that will stay in the premier league. After the Leceister match, we need to finalise who of the loans is staying and bench the rest. Get players on the field that are getting sold and game time for those playing next year.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on March 08, 2019, 12:51:10 PM
We need to not only get promoted but like Wolves develop a core squad that will stay in the premier league. After the Leceister match, we need to finalise who of the loans is staying and bench the rest. Get players on the field that are getting sold and game time for those playing next year.
Disagree. To start, we will of course not have finalized who is staying after the Leicester game. How would that even be possible? Therefore, we would have to bench them all since none would be guaranteed to stay. Maybe also the short term contracts like Babel and Markovic?
Next year is next year, and I believe that for what is left of this year we should concentrate on playing to the best of our ability. If that means playing all loans, or no loans matters nothing in my opinion. If we are mathematically unable to avoid relegation, then I think it may be fair to reason that some thought is given to next year, for example maybe give some of our best youngsters a few minutes just to motivate them. However, it is still in my opinion more important to instill some new belief and winning culture in the team in order to enter the summer in as good spirit as possible. Players already on our books that will be staying will have plenty of time to get in shape during preseason. It is the players that have not yet arrived that may be the problem.
The next match is the most important.