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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: fcfulham55 on March 16, 2019, 11:57:32 PM

Title: Reason why building our new small riverside stand will take so long?
Post by: fcfulham55 on March 16, 2019, 11:57:32 PM
Our new stand, which will seat less than the Hammersmith stand will take 2 years.

But how did spurs get a schedule for 2 years to demolish and build  a huge stadium? Albeit they are well behind schedule. 

I understand the River poses a problem, but been involved in projects much more complex.   The River would infact have many advantages as you can use Barges for example to transport materials to site.


2 years for a relatively small stand and structure is perhaps just playing timescales safe?
Title: Re: Reason why building our new small riverside stand will take so long?
Post by: The Rational Fan on March 17, 2019, 12:34:29 AM
I imagine we will have pulled the old Riverside Stand down and ready to build the new one by the time, we know if promotion is feasible. I wonder if there is a Go / No Go decision then.
Title: Re: Reason why building our new small riverside stand will take so long?
Post by: guru_matt on March 17, 2019, 05:05:05 AM
It is possible there is some dark conspiracy.

More likely it's is a complex build on a notoriously difficult environment. There is going to be a lot more weight bearing down on the muddy river bank. What you see on top can be very different from what is happening underneath.

The sooner it's complete, the sooner the owners can start revenue generating activities there. There is clear motivation to get it done. The more money the ground can make, the more money there is to buy players.

It may take even longer as digging in that spot there is good chance of uncovering some archeological issues, and possibly a left over from WWII. I was working in Canary Wharf when this happened => http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/6920474.stm
Title: Re: Reason why building our new small riverside stand will take so long?
Post by: Roberty on March 17, 2019, 05:34:10 AM
The spuds schedule was not two years  - they started in 2015 and it isn't finished yet !

They'd already built most of the new stadium before they went to Wembley - the two years your talking about was to finish it and the plan was to spend just one season at Wembley - so that part has actually taken them twice as long as planned
Title: Re: Reason why building our new small riverside stand will take so long?
Post by: H4usuallysitting on March 17, 2019, 07:51:55 AM
Talking of building.... Brentford &  the London Irish new home is rapidly coming out of the ground...looks like 3 stands now have roofs on....
Title: Re: Reason why building our new small riverside stand will take so long?
Post by: One Martin Thomas on March 17, 2019, 07:55:35 AM
Spurs were known to be paying a fortune for overtime and weekend work etc.... we don't need to in this case. That's certainly one reason.

Lack of space including the river will not help the build.

Asbestos will possibly be present which slows down any build.
Title: Re: Reason why building our new small riverside stand will take so long?
Post by: toshes mate on March 17, 2019, 08:02:22 AM
No matter where you construct or demolish and rebuild there will be problems, some foreseen and others not.  The timescales provided at planning and contracts stages are essential to keeping a project organised and not subject to avoidable delays. But once you start it is anybody's guess when you'll finish.   
Title: Re: Reason why building our new small riverside stand will take so long?
Post by: HillingdonFFC on March 17, 2019, 08:22:15 AM
Not sure what complex projects you've been involved in ? I've got no knowledge of the building game myself but according to a pal of mine in the construction industry what Fulham are planning(if it ever happens) is far from straightforward.
Theyre having to reclaim land from the river, the basement levels are occupying an area that would've been in the Thames, apparently issues with putting piles in & having stable foundations in the river are a problem
The capacity of the stand is relatively small but extra capacity wasn't the main driver for its construction, more about better hospitality & corporate facilities .The whole structure is huge, there are 7 levels, shops, cafes, bars, restaurants plus apartments. Its nearly twice the size of the existing stand.