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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: grandad on April 26, 2019, 09:00:01 AM

Title: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: grandad on April 26, 2019, 09:00:01 AM
Just read in Sky news that he will not commit one way or the other about his long term future. Surely he should do the decent thing & sign a long contract with clauses such as putting a sell on figure, which if met we could get a decent fee.
He owes the club for all the time & faith shown to him in his development.
Only a top 6 club or a big European club could afford him. Should he go to one of these clubs I very much doubt he would be a consistent starter.
He would just be a pawn to stop other clubs signing a potential top player. Just read the gossip columns to see that the "big" clubs are already at it.
We are well out of the PL as there is no way we could compete for a top 6 place. The present game is all about money & I will just wait for the bubble to burst as surely it will.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: snarks on April 26, 2019, 09:35:53 AM
He was just saying that he has a contract until 2020 with Fulham and that's all he can say for the moment. It will be spun in several ways but as a fact that is right.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: junior white on April 26, 2019, 09:41:12 AM
have we offered a contract or started talking to his agents as yet? or have they not entered into talks or turned down anything?

not heard anything or seen anything in the press
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Moltobueno on April 26, 2019, 09:45:34 AM
Quote from: grandad on April 26, 2019, 09:00:01 AM

He owes the club


disagree
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Tabby on April 26, 2019, 10:15:19 AM
Sess had signed for Tottenham this time last year according to the press. Take what you hear with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Statto on April 26, 2019, 01:57:08 PM
Quote from: grandad on April 26, 2019, 09:00:01 AM
Surely he should do the decent thing & sign a long contract with clauses such as putting a sell on figure, which if met we could get a decent fee... Only a top 6 club or a big European club could afford him. Should he go to one of these clubs I very much doubt he would be a consistent starter.

You seem to have answered your own question.
Maybe he's prepared to play for us next season, but if he plays well and we don't get promoted, wants to go to a mid-table PL team like Bournemouth in summer 2020, who may well not be able to afford more than £15m.
In that case he needs either a low release fee, which probably aren't agreeing to at this stage, or to be out of contract. 

Ultimately he doesn't know who our manager will be next year, what division we'll be in the year after, and like us, he probably has little confidence in senior management, ie Tony Khan. So I can understand him wanting to protect himself, even if he loves Fulham.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: ex-Pat on April 26, 2019, 02:23:56 PM
He's a great Championship player, no good in the Premiership,should be grateful he"s at Fulham.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Fernhurst on April 26, 2019, 02:43:10 PM
I'm sure he loves Fulham, however, his professional development is in the forefront of his and his advisors minds.
The difference to his bank account is enormous if he runs his contract down and he is perfectly entitled to do so. Very cold hard decisions made these days by the players and their contracted clubs.
Playing for us next season may just be a keep fit exercise.
Would you drop him and play someone who will not jump out of tackles or is he too important to us??
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Riversider on April 26, 2019, 03:01:29 PM
Sit him down with his agent and tell him bluntly that there is no way on Earth that he is going to be allowed to run his contract down, offer him an improved 3 year contract with a 12 month Club option to extend,
Set him a deadline of say July 15th to sign it , and explain that failure to do so will result in the club actively looking to sell to the highest bidder before the season starts,
His contract situation can not be allowed to be unresolved going in to the new season.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Riversider on April 26, 2019, 03:02:45 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on April 26, 2019, 02:43:10 PM
I'm sure he loves Fulham, however, his professional development is in the forefront of his and his advisors minds.
The difference to his bank account is enormous if he runs his contract down and he is perfectly entitled to do so. Very cold hard decisions made these days by the players and their contracted clubs.
Playing for us next season may just be a keep fit exercise.
Would you drop him and play someone who will not jump out of tackles or is he too important to us??

When hasn't he jumped out of tackles ?
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Andy S on April 26, 2019, 03:16:48 PM
He's going at the end of season whatever he and his agent say. He no longer kiss's the badge and give his shirt away after each game.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: aaronmcguigan on April 26, 2019, 03:20:58 PM
If he isn't signing a contract he may leave as soon as possible to the highest bidder. What's the point in wasting our time and his having him here all summer to leave on deadline day or something . Hope it's amicable at least. Would prefer him signing even a year extension to get extra cash but we've played ourselves into this situation. If he gets a big move then fairplay to him especially after the  season we've /he's had
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Fernhurst on April 26, 2019, 04:35:16 PM
Quote from: Riversider on April 26, 2019, 03:01:29 PM
Sit him down with his agent and tell him bluntly that there is no way on Earth that he is going to be allowed to run his contract down, offer him an improved 3 year contract with a 12 month Club option to extend,
Set him a deadline of say July 15th to sign it , and explain that failure to do so will result in the club actively looking to sell to the highest bidder before the season starts,
His contract situation can not be allowed to be unresolved going in to the new season.

Good plan, but absolutely no compulsion on Sess to sign for anybody when he could triple his deal when his contract ends.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Mitch on April 26, 2019, 04:36:37 PM
Decent thing for whom? Us? If he was a tinpot player, the club would have got rid of him years ago without thinking twice about him and his future. Clubs aren't decent to the players when they don't want them anymore, so why we ever expect it the other way, I don't know.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: HillingdonFFC on April 26, 2019, 04:57:36 PM
Apparently hes got a new agent & by all accounts hes been making himself a bit busy. Think we could see another Fredericks situation
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Mitch on April 26, 2019, 05:02:23 PM
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on April 26, 2019, 04:57:36 PM
Apparently hes got a new agent & by all accounts hes been making himself a bit busy. Think we could see another Fredericks situation

Didn't he sign with the clubs preferred agent/agency? Part of the reason we don't see Matt O'Riley?

Heard Harvey Elliott's agent is looking to move him on, so don't expect to see him sign pro-terms.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Fernhurst on April 26, 2019, 05:15:14 PM
Blimey,,,, are we a sinking ship..... bit dispiriting.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Statto on April 26, 2019, 06:28:12 PM
Quote from: Riversider on April 26, 2019, 03:01:29 PM
Sit him down with his agent and tell him bluntly that there is no way on Earth that he is going to be allowed to run his contract down

Not sure what imaginary levers we can pull to stop him. Even if we decide to sell him this summer, we can't make him join another club if he doesn't want to.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Milo on April 26, 2019, 07:19:26 PM
Wish him well of course. Sad to see him go if true.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: H4usuallysitting on April 26, 2019, 10:04:52 PM
All speculation....we haven't even got a manager at the moment - if it's Mr Parker - he's already shown faith in Mr Sess, so I'm thinking he's going nowhere...but I'd say it's subject to who becomes the manager
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: The Rational Fan on April 27, 2019, 12:50:49 AM
Quote from: ex-Pat on April 26, 2019, 02:23:56 PM
He's a great Championship player, no good in the Premiership,should be grateful he"s at Fulham.

Nonsense, in a few years he will be a Champions League starter.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: love4ffc on April 27, 2019, 01:40:48 AM
Whatever he does I wish him all the best in his endeavors no matter where he is.  He owes Fulham and us nothing.   I  feel during his time at Fulham he has been nothing but a professional and deserves both our respect and thanks. 

With that said I really hope to see both him and his brother Steven in our first team next season.    049:gif
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: sunburywhite on April 27, 2019, 07:03:19 AM
At 18 years of age he has what will probably be the hardest decision in his life
He is Fulham through and through but if he wants to further his career he probably needs to move on, if not this year then next year
As he is a Fulham boy and seems very level headed you hope he would not do a dirty on us and run his contract down.
After all he did sign a contract last time so Fulham were not left exposed when he could have walked away
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: hovewhite on April 27, 2019, 07:36:32 AM
He is young with the world at his talented feet so if he decides to run down his contract and gets us back to the PL in the process playing alongside his brother then he after that decides to move on then good for him.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: bobby01 on April 27, 2019, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: love4ffc on April 27, 2019, 01:40:48 AM
Whatever he does I wish him all the best in his endeavors no matter where he is.  He owes Fulham and us nothing.   I  feel during his time at Fulham he has been nothing but a professional and deserves both our respect and thanks. 

With that said I really hope to see both him and his brother Steven in our first team next season.    049:gif

Absolutely agree with every word, whatever he does I will always wish him well.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Fulham Tup North on April 27, 2019, 09:59:26 AM
Quote from: bobby01 on April 27, 2019, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: love4ffc on April 27, 2019, 01:40:48 AM
Whatever he does I wish him all the best in his endeavors no matter where he is.  He owes Fulham and us nothing.   I  feel during his time at Fulham he has been nothing but a professional and deserves both our respect and thanks. 

With that said I really hope to see both him and his brother Steven in our first team next season.    049:gif

Absolutely agree with every word, whatever he does I will always wish him well.
Got to agree. He is very level headed, but remember the problem is that MOST football agents are greedy, minipulative, self serving swines. Players get their heads turned easily. Sess has been a great servant to this club. I hope he stays but deserves the big competition's. Time will tell 👍
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: Bracken White on April 27, 2019, 10:43:31 AM
Yep agree, all speculation & don't agree with the negative assessment of his abilities. Don't forget he's still a shy young lad & needs to be given confidence, something that Jokanovic & Parker provide - whereas the no risk Italian didn't have a scooby & his form dipped. RS has remained loyal to FFC & I'd like to think he'll sign a new contract, not least to ensure we get a healthy fee for him when he moves on.
Title: Re: Ryan Sessegnon
Post by: bobbo on April 27, 2019, 10:51:56 AM
Quote from: Moltobueno on April 26, 2019, 09:45:34 AM
Quote from: grandad on April 26, 2019, 09:00:01 AM

He owes the club

Yes I disagree too and grandad I've said it for the last couple of years , but could still be proven wrong.
I personally don't think he's as good or will as good as you and many others think. But it's obvious he'll be a decent player, just not a superstar.
disagree