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Title: Matt O'Riley
Post by: Mike the White on July 24, 2019, 12:57:34 PM
Yet another of our kids appear to be off to pastures new. I think agents shud be banned representing kids til they're  18
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 24, 2019, 01:29:43 PM
Needs to be a fairer way of clubs getting what they should for training young players. But this should be FIFA sorting this, but then they are corrupt!
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: filham on July 24, 2019, 02:04:25 PM
Quote from: Mike the White on July 24, 2019, 12:57:34 PM
Yet another of our kids appear to be off to pastures new. I think agents shud be banned representing kids til they're  18
Havn't heard anything about O'Riley, who is trying to snatch him.
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: Digger on July 24, 2019, 02:37:14 PM
Quote from: filham on July 24, 2019, 02:04:25 PM
Quote from: Mike the White on July 24, 2019, 12:57:34 PM
Yet another of our kids appear to be off to pastures new. I think agents shud be banned representing kids til they're  18
Havn't heard anything about O'Riley, who is trying to snatch him.

Sky Sports Transfer Centre Feed:

'O'RILEY OFF OVERSEAS?

Another top young English talent could soon be developing his career abroad as several clubs look to sign Fulham midfielder Matt O'Riley, Sky Sports News understands.

The Fulham academy product, who has a year left on his current deal, has been part of the club's first team squad in pre-season, but has struggled for opportunities to secure a regular slot in Scott Parker's starting XI.

Braga and Dynamo Zagreb have been joined by Hertha Berlin and Hamburg in monitoring the 18-year old – who has represented England at U16 and U18 levels.

FC Copenhagen are also understood to be keen on O'Riley, who also qualifies to play for Denmark.

Closer to home as many as three Premier League clubs have the classy young midfielder in their sights - although to date we understand Fulham have told potential suitor that O'Riley is not for sale.'

More annoying to hear as I am sure he signed a new deal or at least an extension of some sort
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: filham on July 24, 2019, 02:45:37 PM
Well if he is that good he must be due some game time this season. Surely he can see that at this point in his career he can make as much progress at Fulham as anywhere else.

If he really wants to leave then with a year left on his contract anther club should be made to pay for him big time.
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: SuffolkWhite on July 24, 2019, 03:22:36 PM
All youth coming through should have to sign a two year contract with the training club, there should be a minimum wage and clubs should be be able to offer more if they choose, just a thought for the football authorities maybe.
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: Dr Quinzel on July 24, 2019, 04:11:56 PM
I understand they can't take payments until a certain age. In this case though, I don't think M O'R's agent making him move is the issue, it is the clubs stance that is said to have us at this impasse.
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: Matt10 on July 24, 2019, 04:42:33 PM
So...should they be forced to play in the U23 until they can make a breakthrough to first team? What do you honestly think is more beneficial for the player's development?
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: General on July 24, 2019, 05:34:57 PM
The club's mentioned I'd see as a backwards/sidewards step for him so not sure it'd be worth it for his own career despite it being trendy to go to Germany.

He speaks English as a first language/is at a club that knows him/he's got a chance of first team football in a club that has shown there is a pathway but also the ambition to play at the top and not get in the way of players going to the likes of Man City, Celtic or seemingly Tottenham and Liverpool.

This club has that reputation, proximity and capacity to develop him to a point he can take his career to the top. At his age and unproven ability under huw/Steve Wigley - two of the best coaches in the country historically - he'd be making a naive decision to step away and go abroad.
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: Dr Quinzel on July 24, 2019, 05:51:36 PM
Quote from: General on July 24, 2019, 05:34:57 PM
The club's mentioned I'd see as a backwards/sidewards step for him so not sure it'd be worth it for his own career despite it being trendy to go to Germany.

He speaks English as a first language/is at a club that knows him/he's got a chance of first team football in a club that has shown there is a pathway but also the ambition to play at the top and not get in the way of players going to the likes of Man City, Celtic or seemingly Tottenham and Liverpool.

This club has that reputation, proximity and capacity to develop him to a point he can take his career to the top. At his age and unproven ability under huw/Steve Wigley - two of the best coaches in the country historically - he'd be making a naive decision to step away and go abroad.

We're missing the rumoured issue around the club not offering a contract due to his agent. Matt may not have a choice?
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: General on July 24, 2019, 05:53:03 PM
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on July 24, 2019, 05:51:36 PM
Quote from: General on July 24, 2019, 05:34:57 PM
The club's mentioned I'd see as a backwards/sidewards step for him so not sure it'd be worth it for his own career despite it being trendy to go to Germany.

He speaks English as a first language/is at a club that knows him/he's got a chance of first team football in a club that has shown there is a pathway but also the ambition to play at the top and not get in the way of players going to the likes of Man City, Celtic or seemingly Tottenham and Liverpool.

This club has that reputation, proximity and capacity to develop him to a point he can take his career to the top. At his age and unproven ability under huw/Steve Wigley - two of the best coaches in the country historically - he'd be making a naive decision to step away and go abroad.

We're missing the rumoured issue around the club not offering a contract due to his agent. Matt may not have a choice?

Can't agents be circumnavigated?
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: Sting of the North on July 24, 2019, 05:54:38 PM
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on July 24, 2019, 05:51:36 PM
Quote from: General on July 24, 2019, 05:34:57 PM
The club's mentioned I'd see as a backwards/sidewards step for him so not sure it'd be worth it for his own career despite it being trendy to go to Germany.

He speaks English as a first language/is at a club that knows him/he's got a chance of first team football in a club that has shown there is a pathway but also the ambition to play at the top and not get in the way of players going to the likes of Man City, Celtic or seemingly Tottenham and Liverpool.

This club has that reputation, proximity and capacity to develop him to a point he can take his career to the top. At his age and unproven ability under huw/Steve Wigley - two of the best coaches in the country historically - he'd be making a naive decision to step away and go abroad.

We're missing the rumoured issue around the club not offering a contract due to his agent. Matt may not have a choice?

If that rumour was true, why play him at all in friendlies, cup games etc? Why not use those valuable minutes to someone else?
Title: Re: Matt O'Riley
Post by: Dr Quinzel on July 24, 2019, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 24, 2019, 05:54:38 PM
Quote from: Dr Quinzel on July 24, 2019, 05:51:36 PM
Quote from: General on July 24, 2019, 05:34:57 PM
The club's mentioned I'd see as a backwards/sidewards step for him so not sure it'd be worth it for his own career despite it being trendy to go to Germany.

He speaks English as a first language/is at a club that knows him/he's got a chance of first team football in a club that has shown there is a pathway but also the ambition to play at the top and not get in the way of players going to the likes of Man City, Celtic or seemingly Tottenham and Liverpool.

This club has that reputation, proximity and capacity to develop him to a point he can take his career to the top. At his age and unproven ability under huw/Steve Wigley - two of the best coaches in the country historically - he'd be making a naive decision to step away and go abroad.

We're missing the rumoured issue around the club not offering a contract due to his agent. Matt may not have a choice?

If that rumour was true, why play him at all in friendlies, cup games etc? Why not use those valuable minutes to someone else?

Agents can be circumnavigated, but should the player need to? That said I don't know if the rumour holds weight - like you say, he has been getting minutes. Maybe signs we're closer to something coming together? The obvious ideal.