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Title: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Worcesterwhite on August 30, 2019, 09:59:31 PM
Stats are so misleading, so much possession but very little end product. Really need to up the tempo, the rare occasion we do we have teams in trouble.This team has so much potential, it's frustrating!
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: SP on August 30, 2019, 10:00:30 PM
For me, Cardiff away is one of the toughest fixtures.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: DevonFFC on August 30, 2019, 10:04:09 PM
It's too predictable and easy to defend against
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Fulham 442 on August 30, 2019, 10:04:51 PM
Your headline says it all for me!
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Worcesterwhite on August 30, 2019, 10:07:40 PM
It's a massive two weeks for SP the next 6 games will make him or break him. I hope it's the first, but teams will set up as Cardiff and we need something to click as the tools (team) are there.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Robbie on August 30, 2019, 10:10:00 PM
In perspective, Cardiff are a tough, tough game for us .. a point is OK.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Jamie88 on August 30, 2019, 10:11:37 PM
I know it's a cliche, but we really do need a 'plan b'. Teams know exactly what to expect from us week in week out, and though the technical ability of our players may trounce that of other teams and get us a few results, it won't get us promoted. There has to be an element of surprise from our play I feel. I'm not interested in the possession stats it's means close to nothing in football imo.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: ffc73 on August 30, 2019, 10:12:29 PM
Headline spot on & Cardiff were really really poor. No excuses we need a real kick up the backside to kick start this season
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 30, 2019, 10:13:27 PM
For me our midfield 3 need to support the front three better. No one getting forward. If they can do that we'll get goals. I believe in the way we're playing though, just needs some finessing.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on August 30, 2019, 10:22:07 PM
Exactly and in the end it puts pressure on us because we get bogged down rotating the ball around with no purpose.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Denver Fulham on August 30, 2019, 10:22:38 PM
There are too many occasions where we finally play a pass between the lines and, instead of turning and running at the defense, take the easy way out and knock it sideways or backwards, and concede the advantage we worked hard to finally get. Need a more aggressive mindset, imo.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Worcesterwhite on August 30, 2019, 10:36:15 PM
We are desperate for someone to dictate the play and control from central midfield ie Murphy esc
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Fulham1959 on August 30, 2019, 10:38:40 PM
I can't help wishing that we played kick-and-rush and took 'proper' goal-kicks.

Just because they changed the rule on goal-kicks doesn't mean we have to pass it inside the penalty area nearly every time.  It gives me the heebie-jeebies !
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: FulhamKC on August 30, 2019, 11:41:27 PM
Cardiff didn't press us at all and I don't think we knew how to handle that. We were way too slow and deliberate. I agree with the previous comment about finally playing the ball forward but then immediately playing it backwards and losing all momentum. That's very frustrating for me.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Whitestone on August 30, 2019, 11:42:55 PM
Pretty passing and an excellent finish by Mitro!
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: KingofCheese on August 30, 2019, 11:49:24 PM
For me all that is needed is a really creative midfield playmaker - the rest is there. The type of player who could hold the ball and launch quick attacks. I though Reed, Arter (until his sending off) and TC had good games but they were all similar and lack a threat. Problem is of course is getting some creative who can also protect the defence. Mitro is great at holding up and passing onto someone but should stay further up where he is best suited.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on August 30, 2019, 11:59:22 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 30, 2019, 10:04:09 PM
It's too predictable and easy to defend against

This 100%. 75% means fcuk all if 90% of that possession is in your own half. If Parker doesn't learn to increase intensity and upping tempo and pass / transition speeds then we won't go up.



Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on August 31, 2019, 12:02:17 AM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on August 30, 2019, 11:59:22 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 30, 2019, 10:04:09 PM

Cairney is the best creative midfielder at this level  ... issue is with coaching and slow and predictable build up
It's too predictable and easy to defend against

This 100%. 75% means fcuk all if 90% of that possession is in your own half. If Parker doesn't learn to increase intensity and upping tempo and pass / transition speeds then we won't go up.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: gezkc on August 31, 2019, 12:04:07 AM
We were having this same discussion back in our promotion year under SJ and then suddenly went on a 23 game unbeaten run and the rest is history.

Have patience.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Spirit of 2000 on August 31, 2019, 12:14:24 AM
Nope. SJ did it with Kebano and Ayite. Not Knockaert and Cavaleiro and with Mitro for only half the season. He would destroy this division with this side
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: Tabby on August 31, 2019, 01:02:48 AM
The main problem was that I thought Arter and Reed were stepping on each other's toes a bit. Reed started to get the timing of runs into the opened spaces right before Arter got sent off.

If you're inviting pressure onto the back line you have to have someone using the space that opens up.
Title: Re: Pretty passing, but no end product!
Post by: the nutflush on August 31, 2019, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on August 31, 2019, 12:02:17 AM
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on August 30, 2019, 11:59:22 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 30, 2019, 10:04:09 PM

Cairney is the best creative midfielder at this level  ... issue is with coaching and slow and predictable build up
It's too predictable and easy to defend against

This 100%. 75% means fcuk all if 90% of that possession is in your own half. If Parker doesn't learn to increase intensity and upping tempo and pass / transition speeds then we won't go up.

Wish Cairney would turn around once in a while. Receives the ball with his back to goal and immediately passes back to the central defender without having a look. Does this too often when we have players up the field open.  Frustrating to watch.