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Title: Shambles
Post by: Robbie on November 22, 2020, 12:06:43 PM
Is SP going to survive if we get nothing?
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 12:08:10 PM
BDR again a level below most of our starting 11 gives the ball away awfully. We MUST replace him on RW in the summer
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Vinnieffc on November 22, 2020, 12:11:30 PM
We look awful. We look scared. Not good.

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Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: rebel on November 22, 2020, 12:11:55 PM
Free Kicks, corners?
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Sgt Fulham on November 22, 2020, 12:13:09 PM
I mistakenly thought KO was at 12:30, checked the score 10 minutes in and saw Calvert-Lewin '1 and burst out laughing. Classic Fulham.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: MarryatsChild on November 22, 2020, 12:16:01 PM
Shocked?
Surprised?
Not at all!

We are playing a really good side but we are Fulham so who knows what will happen?
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Vinnieffc on November 22, 2020, 12:16:15 PM
Much better

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Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 12:17:00 PM
*raises finger at waiter*.... I'll take the humble pie thanks....yes and 2 scoops of humble ice cream with that if ya dont mind
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: SP on November 22, 2020, 12:21:25 PM
Quote from: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 12:17:00 PM
*raises finger at waiter*.... I'll take the humble pie thanks....yes and 2 scoops of humble ice cream with that if ya dont mind

I probably agree with your original summary.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Jules on November 22, 2020, 12:36:44 PM
1-3 woeful defending I am sad to say
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Deeping_white on November 22, 2020, 12:37:21 PM
Not being funny but Reed offers nothing in the midfield without Anguissa there next to him
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 12:40:08 PM
Has cav done anything this game?

Anguissa for Harrison at half time... mitro for cav?
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: WokingFFC on November 22, 2020, 12:42:00 PM
Would remove Lemina before Reed, he has lost the ball more and done less than Reed
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 12:43:23 PM
Also get well soon Tete, we are getting ripped apart down the right...zero cover from BDR mind you
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Deeping_white on November 22, 2020, 12:46:51 PM
Defenders just making awful decisions all game, once we're out of our own half it's okay but in our own half the whole team seems to have a brain fade and it's not even like we're being pressed that hard
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: PaulJ123 on November 22, 2020, 12:48:11 PM
Shocking.

All well and good they have better players but our organisation is absolutely woeful, what does Parker actually work on in the week?

He has to go if we have any chance of staying up.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: MarryatsChild on November 22, 2020, 12:48:18 PM

It is more like a 3rd round Cup Tie with us as the non-league away side.

It does confirm that the actual investment in our recent signings was minimal in quality.

A terrible half.

Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Denzil Dexter on November 22, 2020, 12:51:07 PM
The Fulham doormats are back. Great defending lads [emoji849]

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Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Mince n Tatties on November 22, 2020, 12:51:14 PM
Never mind Leicester up next....Jamie Vardy come on down.🤔
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: rebel on November 22, 2020, 12:52:14 PM
We are like statues when they come forward, zero 'grit'.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Denzil Dexter on November 22, 2020, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 22, 2020, 12:51:14 PM
Never mind Leicester up next....Jamie Vardy come on down.[emoji848]
Cricket score

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Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Statto on November 22, 2020, 12:54:49 PM
Not sure whether to bother with the second half but I'd set this time aside and now have nothing else to do.

I hope we're going to get another TK video this evening talking about the quality of his defensive signings.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: fulhamtom on November 22, 2020, 12:55:33 PM
What does Lemina actually do?
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 12:55:47 PM
We are missing the physicality of Anguissa...its so plain and obvious, awful omission and our DMs have struggled in his absence. That said...our defending has been useless because there has been ZERO cover out wide from Lookman and BDR.

They are running rampant out wide.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: hovewhite on November 22, 2020, 12:56:31 PM
Men against boys, new defence still a shambles. Offensively we don't look bad  BCR looking good and a threat. Not sure what Scott will do to change it maybe anguissa for lamina maybe a 3rd CB and switch to a 5.This could be a real pasting guys.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: terryr on November 22, 2020, 12:56:48 PM
When are going to stop playing a dozen passes before we clear our zone?
They are pressing us and we persist.
Parker better make changes at the half.
These players are not up to it
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: hongkongfulham on November 22, 2020, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 12:43:23 PM
Also get well soon Tete, we are getting ripped apart down the right...zero cover from BDR mind you

Yeah BDR no positional sense defending. Gets dragged inside towards the ball so easily
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Denzil Dexter on November 22, 2020, 12:57:37 PM
Quote from: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 12:55:47 PM
We are missing the physicality of Anguissa...its so plain and obvious, awful omission and our DMs have struggled in his absence. That said...our defending has been useless because there has been ZERO cover out wide from Lookman and BDR.

They are running rampant out wide.
One person gets the blame I'm afraid.

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Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: fulhamben on November 22, 2020, 12:57:42 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 22, 2020, 12:54:49 PM
Not sure whether to bother the second half but I'd set this time aside and having else to do.

I hope we're going to get another TK video this evening talking about the quality of his defensive signings.
hopefully he will be tweeting about, and apologising for not sacking Parker sooner
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: clarkey on November 22, 2020, 12:58:09 PM
Reed must stay on, Anguissa for Cav at once, change the right full back for Odoi and hate to say it but told you so

We are playing with ten men, thanks to selection of Cav this team was appalling set up mentally and selection wise. Lookman not wide enough, free kicks shambolic, corners a waste, right back awful, Parker needs sacking this is Parks level mistakes. We are miles off today after being OK v West Ham.

Worse thing is looking so unprofessional. Agree with other posters what on earth does Parker do all week. They look like they have not played together since West Ham game.

Change it at half time we might steal a goal back and force a draw, otherwise we are losing 2 or 3 more. We are wide open on our right.Tete needs selecting or even Odoi. Just not tight on his man at all. So depressing, all this is avoidable by simple common sense and not playing with ten men.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: Statto on November 22, 2020, 12:54:49 PM
Not sure whether to bother the second half but I'd set this time aside and having else to do.

I hope we're going to get another TK video this evening talking about the quality of his defensive signings.

I dont think the players are the problem...they've clearly been an upgrade the first few games we saw a massive difference... the system is a mess, constant 1 on 1or 1 on 2s in wide positions. Our wingers are so high up as we have no CF that they are having a field day moving the ball around I'm wide positions. That means our CB keeps getting drawn out wide to help and before you know it our defence is all over the place.

Also....BDR giving that ball away for their first goal was criminally poor and somewhat set the mood.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: davew on November 22, 2020, 12:59:29 PM
I blame it on the international break, the team selection and the fact that we are simply out of our depth in the PL.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: The Old Count on November 22, 2020, 01:03:50 PM
Same mistakes, same issues. As Danny Murphy says, it's a managerial decision. Parker reminds me of Ray Wilkins, he expects players to play a certain way when, at this level, they are not good enough.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Jules on November 22, 2020, 01:16:22 PM
What? Why Cairney and BDR off?! Lemina woeful
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Deeping_white on November 22, 2020, 01:19:32 PM
He's lost the plot with those subs, we need Zambo in this game to drive us through the middle and yet we've still got Reed/Lemina on
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 01:23:02 PM
Dreadful subs, Cav done f all all season stays on??? No anguissa to drive from deep?

Had enough of Scott at this point.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 01:24:31 PM
Should add...Lookman has been a shadow of himself so far. Hope he can shake this off
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Jules on November 22, 2020, 01:26:50 PM
 :wow: FFS!!!
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 01:27:27 PM
Ya gotta laugh.... areola to take the next one?
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Deeping_white on November 22, 2020, 01:30:26 PM
To be fair I won't hold that against Cav because the pitch gave way under him

Well done RLC and Lookman
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Mince n Tatties on November 22, 2020, 01:30:58 PM
Do they actually take penalties in training.
Absolutely Disgusting.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Denzil Dexter on November 22, 2020, 01:37:02 PM
Clearly penalties aren't included  on Tony's stat model

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Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Dodgin on November 22, 2020, 01:58:14 PM
Great subs in second half,except they should have started
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Robbie on November 22, 2020, 01:58:42 PM
Better in second half. Dreadful penalty again
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: clarkey on November 22, 2020, 01:59:27 PM
Awful subs, Cairney most creative player by a mile. Cav worst player along with Aina and Lemina. Any of those should have gone.

Frankly Everton were there for the taking today. Play Lookman wide, get crosses in, use his pace. We did it once.And scored.Play Anguissa from the start.He dominates.

Honestly this is basic stuff. Parker is clueless.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: rebel on November 22, 2020, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: Dodgin on November 22, 2020, 01:58:14 PM
Great subs in second half,except they should have started

Substitutions should have been made at half-time.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Tabby on November 22, 2020, 02:00:52 PM
Don't understand why Cav was kept on with Cairney and BDR coming off, both of them are good at working the ball in congested areas.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 02:03:57 PM
If parker starts Cav next game hes lost the plot. Absolutely useless yet again today...


Start with Lookman left, RLC right and Mitro in the middle

Cairney in front of Ried/Lemina (either plays better with frank along side them) and Anguissa in the middle ... can only assume Frank was tired after travelling because his ommission today was criminal otherwise.

Even more frustrating to see that dominance late on...we have the players and the talent but first half our system was a joke. Our wing backs completely exposed and no adjustment during the half combat it.

I still hope he learns fast but a better manager does much more with this squad.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: davew on November 22, 2020, 02:04:47 PM
Quote from: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 01:27:27 PM
Ya gotta laugh.... areola to take the next one?
Certainly!!!
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: FFC1987 on November 22, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
I've no idea whose decision it is to give Cav the penalty. The guy looks completely devoid of any confidence in terms of output. But yes, Parker, team selection all wrong and corrected only when the game was lost. Anyone with a few brain cells could see a midfield with Reed and Lemina isn't going to work. You either put Reid in AM and drop Cairney deeper with one of Lemina OR Reed. Honestly, I'm not calling for Parker out but how is this not obvious?
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Hoppus on November 22, 2020, 02:07:16 PM
Quote from: Robbie on November 22, 2020, 12:06:43 PM
Is SP going to survive if we get nothing?


Yes, because he is Scott Parker. Not because he is a good manager.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: jarv on November 22, 2020, 02:12:26 PM
I could not understand why Cav stayed on, what does he offer?  No end product to anything he does.

What has happened to Cairney, dead ball specialist not long ago, why is he not doing it now.?
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: filham on November 22, 2020, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 12:40:08 PM
Has cav done anything this game?

Anguissa for Harrison at half time... mitro for cav?
When did Cav last have any impact on a game. I think you have to go back to the first half dozen games he played for us.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: FFC1987 on November 22, 2020, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: filham on November 22, 2020, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: jayffc on November 22, 2020, 12:40:08 PM
Has cav done anything this game?

Anguissa for Harrison at half time... mitro for cav?
When did Cav last have any impact on a game. I think you have to go back to the first half dozen games he played for us.

I'll hazard a guess and say it was against a lower championship team when we had ample possession and much better quality of player than the oppo.
Title: Re: Shambles
Post by: Statto on November 22, 2020, 02:30:00 PM
I defended Cavaleiro last season because I thought he was quality at that level and better than Knockaert. But he never has, and never will, be able to regularly make an impact at this level. The fact he's still our 4th best forward shows how poor our summer recruitment was in that area.