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Title: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: PaulJ123 on February 03, 2021, 10:32:38 AM
Not sure why but this team don't feel very "Fulham" to me at the moment. I think back to the 17/18 team and used to love going to games, watching matches and getting behind the team. And I loved that team and Slav. Now I find myself watching the games but it's not quite the same. I know I've made several posts about not thinking Parker is right for the job etc and this isn't what this post is about as I actually feel he suits Fulham quite well.

It might be having to watch on TV so haven't been able to see this team in the flesh but it just doesn't feel the same as it has in the past.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: JoelH5 on February 03, 2021, 10:35:39 AM
No not really. I think we've actually got a universally 'likeable' team for the first time in a long time. You can see the effort they put in. The last time in the PL was way more frustrating with the likes of Seri and Schurrle who couldn't be bothered.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: The Cravenette on February 03, 2021, 10:41:27 AM
Think it probably has more to do with not being able to attend.  I'm a ST holder and sometimes still cannot believe I am watching them play at CC at home on TV.  Such a shame we can't be there.

If we do go down and some or our loanees don't hang around it will just seem incredible that I and others have not had the chance to watch them play in a Fulham shirt in the flesh.

Still love the Club and team though whatever.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: PaulJ123 on February 03, 2021, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on February 03, 2021, 10:35:39 AM
No not really. I think we've actually got a universally 'likeable' team for the first time in a long time. You can see the effort they put in. The last time in the PL was way more frustrating with the likes of Seri and Schurrle who couldn't be bothered.

Yeah agree with that but I still felt more with that squad probably as it had a lot of the promotion team in and around it.

I think it is due to not going to games live more than anything.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: bog on February 03, 2021, 11:00:39 AM
No. When I compare with the shambles of the last prem campaign I do see a much better side.  049:gif

Mind you I do miss Slav.

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Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Holders on February 03, 2021, 11:04:10 AM
No, I like this team more than any since Tigana's and will be very sad if we get relegated and it gets broken up. Then it'll be back to square 1 rebuilding a good part of the team. And so it goes on...
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Bassey the warrior on February 03, 2021, 11:06:53 AM
Not at all, I like this side and feel we just lack that clinical finishing.

Last year I found us hard to watch, so dull and predictable, but Parker has completely changed the team and for the better.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Neutral Zone Ultra on February 03, 2021, 11:09:06 AM
Quote from: The Cravenette on February 03, 2021, 10:41:27 AM
Think it probably has more to do with not being able to attend.  I'm a ST holder and sometimes still cannot believe I am watching them play at CC at home on TV.  Such a shame we can't be there.

If we do go down and some or our loanees don't hang around it will just seem incredible that I and others have not had the chance to watch them play in a Fulham shirt in the flesh.

Still love the Club and team though whatever.
This is it for me. Not being at the ground and travelling half way across the country regularly and sharing in the team's successes and failures has led to me feeling disconnected, rather than the team itself. Which is a shame because I like all of our players as Fulham players and I wish I could support them in person.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: FFC In Oz on February 03, 2021, 11:09:55 AM
Quote from: Holders on February 03, 2021, 11:04:10 AM
No, I like this team more than any since Tigana's and will be very sad if we get relegated and it gets broken up. Then it'll be back to square 1 rebuilding a good part of the team. And so it goes on...

You like this team more than the team that finished 7th in the PL and the team that made that dazzling run to the Europa League final the next season?
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: blingo on February 03, 2021, 11:10:57 AM
The finishing is what is missing badly. Hopefully now that Mitro is back on song we can move up a bit, but we need points from the next two games
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: roberto w6 on February 03, 2021, 11:13:11 AM
They feel very Fulham to me.
Probably you don't have the same connection as if you were watching them live each week
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on February 03, 2021, 11:17:59 AM
I like the team - even the loanees apart from Cheek are really busting a gut and look like they care.

Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: The Cravenette on February 03, 2021, 11:22:32 AM
And in relation to this team and my comment above re some loanees leaving before we get to see them in the flesh, I love Andersen; he is so motivated and keen for the team to do well.  He comes across so well on social media he, in particular, deserves to hear the Fulham crowd chant his name.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Bill2 on February 03, 2021, 11:23:34 AM
While being a ST holder for some years there were times when I played football I did not attend often but they are always my Fulham. I think that some of the newer fans have experienced a modicum of success with promotions and playing in the Premiership for a number of years, where us older fans have known dark days where we not even sure the Club would see the season out so probably find it easier to support through difficult times. So while not winning is frustrating they will always be my Club, lets be honest there has never been any glory days in our history, an FA cup final in 1975 and a European final (both losing) is not a lot for over 50 yers of support. It is not about the players, we will always have our heroes and favourites and some of those were not necessarily our best but the Club will always be my football team.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Middlesexclub on February 03, 2021, 11:23:56 AM
Personally I like this team. They are starting to gel as a team and try hard. Just need a bit of luck or better breaks with decisions.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: HV71 on February 03, 2021, 11:35:42 AM
Quote from: bog on February 03, 2021, 11:00:39 AM
No. When I compare with the shambles of the last prem campaign I do see a much better side.  049:gif

Mind you I do miss Slav.

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Echoes my feelings perfectly
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Jim© on February 03, 2021, 11:54:12 AM
I really like this side, I think it's got the basis of being a successful side for a few years to come IF (in massive letters) we can somehow manage to stay up.
Saying goodbye to genuinely good players like Andersen, Areola, Lookman, Aina and inevitably Anguissa would mean we're back to starting out again.
I think we could get all of them to come on board if we stay up, if we go down I'd guess we have an outside chance of Aina or Lemina.

I enjoy watching a Fulham team compete and not get turned over week after week. Of course the draws have been irritating and we've deserved more in quite a few games and less in only a handful. We're still just passed halfway in the season, so there'll be many more twists and turns to come....
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Wolf on February 03, 2021, 12:01:48 PM
Also like this team, think we have some very good players and made some good loans in. Would like better results, but that's football. Perhaps I liked the 2017-18 team collectively more, but there were plenty regularly playing in 2018-19 that I just didn't rate at all Fosu-Mensah and Vietto for example wouldn't have got close to our current 25.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on February 03, 2021, 12:19:18 PM
Quote from: Wolf on February 03, 2021, 12:01:48 PM
Also like this team, think we have some very good players and made some good loans in. Would like better results, but that's football. Perhaps I liked the 2017-18 team collectively more, but there were plenty regularly playing in 2018-19 that I just didn't rate at all Fosu-Mensah and Vietto for example wouldn't have got close to our current 25.

Fosu mensah has hardly played any games since leaving us and Vietto now plays in Saudi league. Says it all really.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Fulham Tup North on February 03, 2021, 12:29:57 PM
I do like this side.... but have to agree that not being at a ground and not watching them live, is a massive loss.
When you spend 90 mins shouting their names and singing, you feel part of the result.... not being there is almost like watching a film.... I don't feel so integrated.   Hopefully we will be back before the season ends 🙏🤞
COYW
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Holders on February 03, 2021, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on February 03, 2021, 11:09:55 AM
Quote from: Holders on February 03, 2021, 11:04:10 AM
No, I like this team more than any since Tigana's and will be very sad if we get relegated and it gets broken up. Then it'll be back to square 1 rebuilding a good part of the team. And so it goes on...

You like this team more than the team that finished 7th in the PL and the team that made that dazzling run to the Europa League final the next season?

Yes, I prefer the style and flair of play notwithstanding the Europa run.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: 70sPimlico on February 03, 2021, 01:10:03 PM
In answer to the subject question.

Absolutely not. Feels there's a great spirit, excellent play and we're about to up the level I feel
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: keithh on February 03, 2021, 01:36:18 PM
Watching TV shows all the glaring faults of wayward passes, obvious passes not being made, the fluffed shots, the missed opportunities. Being there for me is totally different as I'm the one who loses their voice near the end of a match and has tears in his eyes (even if we get a draw). I think this team will really gel & stay up!
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: blingo on February 03, 2021, 01:37:17 PM
Fulham is in my blood.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Cambridge Pete on February 03, 2021, 01:48:48 PM
Still fully behind the club. Yes it's all a bit remote and screaming at the TV and texting mates during a game is nothing compared to the atmosphere of being there. A couple of beers before the game, the thrill and anticipation on the walk to the ground. Getting a programme and the latest  One F in. And yes I may get admonished for calling it the Premiership, but this forum does provide some way to talk to others about the club. COYW
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Carborundum on February 03, 2021, 01:53:05 PM
Yes, but that's because I can't be at the Cottage.  Football on TV leaves me cold.  Impressions of the team come from pointing my eyes at what I want to look at, not where a camera director takes them. 

But it's not a big deal.  Hundreds of thousands of kids have now had two seasons of youth football mucked up. 
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Craven Mad on February 03, 2021, 01:56:11 PM
I quite like this team, but think it's missing the excitement of goals. Hopefully Josh will prove to be the missing link
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: JoelH5 on February 03, 2021, 01:56:55 PM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on February 03, 2021, 11:09:55 AM
Quote from: Holders on February 03, 2021, 11:04:10 AM
No, I like this team more than any since Tigana's and will be very sad if we get relegated and it gets broken up. Then it'll be back to square 1 rebuilding a good part of the team. And so it goes on...

You like this team more than the team that finished 7th in the PL and the team that made that dazzling run to the Europa League final the next season?

No but I don't need to like them as much as that team to not feel disconnected from them.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: FulhamStu on February 03, 2021, 02:10:15 PM
I like the youthfulness of this side, I like the leadership of Andersen and nobody walking about with hunched shoulders and head down.  Imagine, not that it would ever happen, what this team would do in the championship.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: mrmicawbers on February 03, 2021, 02:15:20 PM
Getting behind the team no problem.I do however find it difficult to get that excited when watching on TV generally on my lonesome.Wife not interested can't understand why.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Dr Quinzel on February 03, 2021, 02:17:34 PM
Not at all. I've found myself less supportive of the 'club' and by that I mean certain aspects/people and their decisions conflict with what I think it best for 'us', but I still love the club in terms of the community, friends and find a lot of these players very, very easy to support. I think we see 100% from all of them most weeks, to the point it stands out when someone is having a day off, and once they're on the pitch that is the first thing you ask of them.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: filham on February 03, 2021, 02:59:45 PM
This group of players are growing on me and right now are our Fulham. Of course watching on TV rather than being at the Cottage has made it harder to identify with the individuals.
I will be bitterly disappointed if we are relegated at the end of the season and this team is broken up.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: MJG on February 03, 2021, 04:45:04 PM
It's not about finding it harder to get behind the team this season for me, it's about investing too much into a team or squad that now has 7 loans in it whole 10 first rteamers are out on loan.
We all sometimes get emotionally invested in individual players, but as good as a couple of them really are, the odds currently are that they are one season wonder's and off somewhere else they will be next year.
I suppose as loan utd we or I, will have to get used to this.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: colinwhite on February 03, 2021, 05:22:41 PM
This is Fulham this team too. The year the op mentioned was exceptional as was the football. We have never played such arttractive football ever ,so that was a one -off.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on February 03, 2021, 06:49:24 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on February 03, 2021, 10:35:39 AM
No not really. I think we've actually got a universally 'likeable' team for the first time in a long time. You can see the effort they put in. The last time in the PL was way more frustrating with the likes of Seri and Schurrle who couldn't be bothered.

I agree with this.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Twig on February 03, 2021, 06:49:33 PM
Quote from: Holders on February 03, 2021, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on February 03, 2021, 11:09:55 AM
Quote from: Holders on February 03, 2021, 11:04:10 AM
No, I like this team more than any since Tigana's and will be very sad if we get relegated and it gets broken up. Then it'll be back to square 1 rebuilding a good part of the team. And so it goes on...

You like this team more than the team that finished 7th in the PL and the team that made that dazzling run to the Europa League final the next season?

Yes, I prefer the style and flair of play notwithstanding the Europa run.

To me that's staggering. That team gave me so much pleasure, wonderful experiences around Europe and such pride in our performances. The current team's ok but compared to beating Juve they don't get close.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Twig on February 03, 2021, 06:51:55 PM
To the OP, I have a similar problem simply because I don't get to attend any matches. Seeing them on TV is fine to watch the matches. However I don't form a relationship with individual players, to me they just remain names on a team sheet.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Sgt Fulham on February 03, 2021, 06:57:54 PM
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on February 03, 2021, 06:49:24 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on February 03, 2021, 10:35:39 AM
No not really. I think we've actually got a universally 'likeable' team for the first time in a long time. You can see the effort they put in. The last time in the PL was way more frustrating with the likes of Seri and Schurrle who couldn't be bothered.

I agree with this.

Me too, I really feel connected with this team. I will be gutted if/when we go down.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: FFC1987 on February 03, 2021, 07:19:29 PM
No. I like this team. I like watching a load of the players most weeks. they just aren't good enough for whatever reason at this level which is a shame. As the championship is beocming harder and harder to climb out of so it might be a while till we see ourselves back with the elite again.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Mickeyboro on February 03, 2021, 07:36:38 PM
Too many loanees.  Too many journeymen playing for themselves.

At least with KMac, Stef Jo, Cairney and co, you felt they cared. We had several captains on the field, a loanee - however good - should not be the skipper.

How many of these players will feel more for Fulham than writing the name as a line on their CV.

Our short termism is coming home to roost.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: ScalleysDad on February 03, 2021, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: Mickeyboro on February 03, 2021, 07:36:38 PM
Too many loanees.  Too many journeymen playing for themselves.

At least with KMac, Stef Jo, Cairney and co, you felt they cared. We had several captains on the field, a loanee - however good - should not be the skipper.

How many of these players will feel more for Fulham than writing the name as a line on their CV.

Our short termism is coming home to roost.


I turned the tele over and perused tonight's threads instead. I do feel a bit disconnected nowadays and it is, I think, partly the short termism you have mentioned but also that annoying thing of watching the Club make the same mistakes over and over. I don't think we have ever had so many loanees in the first team but there again I think Anderson is the best option we have leading the back line since Hangaland so it's horses/courses I suppose. I certainly would not spend money on a shirt and put any of this bunch on the back.
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: LittleErn on February 03, 2021, 08:29:53 PM
Well clearly Leicester didn't
Title: Re: Does anyone else find this team harder to fully get behind?
Post by: Maidstone Lee on February 03, 2021, 08:41:42 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on February 03, 2021, 08:29:53 PM
Well clearly Leicester didn't

Haha very true. 2 wins in 21 is simply not good enough. Always support the boys but my interest is waning. Are we really heading for 3 premier league relegations in 3 premier league campaigns under the current administration?  :012: