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Title: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: Fulham1959 on June 27, 2021, 03:29:10 PM
This is a BBC recording with Kenneth Wolstenhome, not the usual Pathe News cinema newsreel.  Lasts about 6 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JYU1DJT6-k

It was Haynes' only hat trick for the full England team, I believe.
Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: Steeeeeeeeeed on June 27, 2021, 03:43:16 PM
Brilliant stuff, thanks for posting
Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: bog on June 27, 2021, 04:26:55 PM
Brilliant posting. Others of my age (old) will recall Kenneth Wolstenholme saying on Sportsnight that Johnny Haynes should be dropped for the game. The following week he appeared with sack cloth and ashes over him as a punishment for spouting such nonsense.  :005: Johnny reigned supreme that game...again.  :Haynes The Maestro:

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Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: cmg on June 27, 2021, 04:45:28 PM
Quote from: bog on June 27, 2021, 04:26:55 PM
Brilliant posting. Others of my age (old) will recall Kenneth Wolstenholme saying on Sportsnight that Johnny Haynes should be dropped for the game. The following week he appeared with sack cloth and ashes over him as a punishment for spouting such nonsense.     

...Hence Wolstenhome's somewhat subdued reactions to Haynes' goals. (To be fair he never did get over excited, unlike the hystrionics of today's mouthpieces...And yet he came out with what is probably the most famous of all English football comments.)

It always seemed slightly strange to me that JH was a rather more ready scorer for England than he was for Fulham. After he  (26 goals) and Leggat beat up the 2nd Div (Championship) the year we went up he rarely went into double figures. Almost as if, as a craftsman, he rather disdained the more prosaic task of actually providing the finishing touches.
Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on June 27, 2021, 05:36:26 PM
Very nice. The 1950s, when England sort of realized the rest of the world played better football.
Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: grandad on June 27, 2021, 05:39:36 PM
Wlostenhome hated Haynes & Fulham with a passion. He thought George Eastham was a better player. I could never warm to him as a commentator.
Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: Fernhurst on June 27, 2021, 07:06:52 PM
Lovely to see "our best ever player" dominating the International stage.

Even though he scored a hatrick, never seen him on film that really does him justice.
Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: mrmicawbers on June 28, 2021, 09:59:36 AM
Thanks for posting,how things have changed when our centre forward gets kicked in the face,he just raises his hand and says don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: Dodgin on June 28, 2021, 10:34:49 AM
One of the everlasting joys of our club Johnny Haynes.
Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: bog on June 28, 2021, 10:57:56 AM
In a book I read about the Maestro for that 1958 game a member of the Soviet entourage was a very young Gorbachev. Many years later when he came to see Thatcher one of the first things he asked was 'How is that Johnny Haynes doing now?' Of course she had no idea of whom he was talking about.  He had been so taken by Johnny's play that long gone day and never forgotten him. Quite impressive I think.  :Haynes The Maestro:

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Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: Dr Quinzel on June 28, 2021, 10:59:36 AM
I'll watch this later, thanks for sharing.

Your profile picture caught my eye. I collect some older football cards, trade cards etc. That's from A&BC, probably 1959/60 ish based on design. Absolutely brilliant design, and a great choice for your profile pic.
Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: Mr White on June 28, 2021, 11:37:01 AM

Cheers mate, cheered me no end .
Title: Re: Haynes hat trick for England v. USSR, October 1958
Post by: RaySmith on June 28, 2021, 11:54:26 AM
Wonderful footage, thanks.

I recognised all the England players, besides the Maestro, and they mostly played for teams now outside the  top division, like Blackburn, Preston, Bolton, Wolves, WBA and Fulham, of course.