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Title: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on October 02, 2021, 02:27:14 PM
Started off the season one of our best players. But since the last international break he's been ineffective - or am I being unfair.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: Baszab on October 02, 2021, 02:29:14 PM
Plays like he's scared getting injured
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: Fernhurst on October 02, 2021, 02:29:53 PM
Very weak and ineffectual, so disappointed in him Wednesday and today.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: SP on October 02, 2021, 02:30:11 PM
Think the defenders have worked him out, need a change of plan.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: Pluto on October 02, 2021, 02:30:59 PM
He was anonymous today. Forgot he was even playing.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: Deeping_white on October 02, 2021, 02:32:23 PM
He's got worse since Tete has been injured and I'm sure that's not a coincidence
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: WindyCity on October 02, 2021, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on October 02, 2021, 02:29:53 PM
Very weak and ineffectual, so disappointed in him Wednesday and today.

Yep.  Off the boil? -- Yes
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: grandad on October 02, 2021, 02:42:38 PM
He needs a spell as our No. 10 until Carvalho returns. Gives him more space than being tight to the sideline.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: Stoneleigh Loyalist on October 02, 2021, 02:46:05 PM
I pointed out before and was put down on this forum for saying that the pundits did not rate him playing for Wales in the World Cup..
Despite the fight for his signature he is a bit-part performer.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: bog on October 02, 2021, 02:46:41 PM
I cannot recalls any contribution by him.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: WolverineFFC on October 02, 2021, 02:49:24 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 02, 2021, 02:32:23 PM
He's got worse since Tete has been injured and I'm sure that's not a coincidence

Game is about partnerships, especially out wide in this system. Tete getting injured and Wilson's form changing are surely not a coincidence.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: MartyFFC on October 02, 2021, 02:59:56 PM
Looking like a show pony with no end-product at the moment
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: WhiteJC on October 02, 2021, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 02, 2021, 02:32:23 PM
He's got worse since Tete has been injured and I'm sure that's not a coincidence

I agree with this, also he was building a good understanding with Carvalho
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: MartyFFC on October 02, 2021, 04:42:14 PM
Yeah it's starting to become apparent that Carvalho really is a huge miss. Let's hope that toe heals sooner rather than later
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: WestSussexWhite on October 02, 2021, 05:02:16 PM
He's missing Tete, if Tete plays he goes on the overlap which draws a defender with him. Odoi doesn't do that leaving Wilson 2 on 1
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: ron on October 02, 2021, 06:30:46 PM
I posted that I could see a young Allan Clarke in him in his early appearances....

...he's a long way short of Sniffer just lately...
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 02, 2021, 08:05:36 PM
Wilson seemed to play better in tandem with Fabio. Since then he seems to be playing not off the boil, more like with a boil on his nether regions.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 02, 2021, 08:09:25 PM
Quote from: ron on October 02, 2021, 06:30:46 PM
I posted that I could see a young Allan Clarke in him in his early appearances....

...he's a long way short of Sniffer just lately...

For me he is not in the same class as Alan Clarke.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: HV71 on October 02, 2021, 09:14:19 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on October 02, 2021, 05:02:16 PM
He's missing Tete, if Tete plays he goes on the overlap which draws a defender with him. Odoi doesn't do that leaving Wilson 2 on 1

I don't disagree with this but it's only half the story . Just as Odoi isn't Tete going forward - Wilson doesn't track back enough leaving Odoi totally exposed at the back . I actually respect and like both players but as a partnership down our right they leave a good deal to be desired both from an attacking and defensive perspective.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: H4usuallysitting on October 02, 2021, 11:32:00 PM
In my humble - he's playing out of position....or you also need to play Mr BDR as right back
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: Jules on October 03, 2021, 08:44:50 AM
Quote from: grandad on October 02, 2021, 02:42:38 PM
He needs a spell as our No. 10 until Carvalho returns. Gives him more space than being tight to the sideline.
Agree with this. Wilson is quality but when double marked playing on the right he becomes ineffective. He should be able to play in behind Mitro and create chances from there.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: bog on October 03, 2021, 08:57:26 AM
Quote from: ron on October 02, 2021, 06:30:46 PM
I posted that I could see a young Allan Clarke in him in his early appearances....

...he's a long way short of Sniffer just lately...

Now there was a player...the slim Sniffer is still in my best ever line up.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: bobby01 on October 03, 2021, 11:30:17 AM
Quote from: bog on October 03, 2021, 08:57:26 AM
Quote from: ron on October 02, 2021, 06:30:46 PM
I posted that I could see a young Allan Clarke in him in his early appearances....

...he's a long way short of Sniffer just lately...

Now there was a player...the slim Sniffer is still in my best ever line up.


Jay Stansfield really reminds me of sniffer, seems to have the same instincts.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: Jims Dentist on October 06, 2021, 06:40:16 PM
Totally agree with Grandad, Deepening White, Wolverine and WSW:
Could be better used as a number 10, or needs to play in tandem with Tete.
Title: Re: Harry Wilson - gone off the boil?
Post by: The Rational Fan on October 07, 2021, 03:52:46 AM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on October 06, 2021, 06:40:16 PM
Totally agree with Grandad, Deepening White, Wolverine and WSW:
Could be better used as a number 10, or needs to play in tandem with Tete.

According to transfermarkt, our seven #10s includes Cairney, Carvalho, Francois, Quina, Reid, Onamah, and Wilson. The first three are all injured (i.e. Cairney, Carvalho, Francois), while the second three (i.e. Quina, Reid, Onamah) haven't played well in their each of their most recent games. Unless someone returns from injury (e.g. Carvalho) or someone out of form returns to form in training (e.g. Quina or Onamah), then Wilson is the only remaining choice and he is also potentially a very good #10.