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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Maidstone Lee on November 25, 2021, 01:37:00 PM

Title: Tosin
Post by: Maidstone Lee on November 25, 2021, 01:37:00 PM
Do we think he should start against Preston? Thought he was poor yesterday with Ream having to compensate.

I'd actually consider bringing Hector back in.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: ashteadFFC on November 25, 2021, 01:39:34 PM
Thought he defended ok - but his passing was way off. So many short passes too short and long passes were terrible. As you say glad Ream was on point last night.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: Sting of the North on November 25, 2021, 01:53:35 PM
Think Tosin was good defensively overall, sloppy with passes. Should definitely stay in the team in my opinion.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: General on November 25, 2021, 02:00:14 PM
He was poor in my view too. I wasn't paying too much attention to him in any deliberate way, but noted once or twice that his passing was off of my own accord, but this was reinforced multiple times during the game by other fans near me mentioning it too. He's been out for three games, Hector had rusty moments too. He needed to get yesterday into his legs to get reacquainted with playing. We're in a lucky position to have hector, Mawson and someday perhaps Kongolo all as back up options, but Tosin on his day so far is better than all of them (apart from maybe Kongolo, but we've still yet to see him properly).

Also noticed Tosin getting drawn out of his defensive position a few times which has been picked up by pundits before as something he does too often and is naive. Did look like the wrong thing to do at the time.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: Whitesideup on November 25, 2021, 02:07:06 PM
Do not agree at all that he was poor. Defensively he was not only good but made some key interventions. Sometimes his pace made his defending look easy but other CBs may well have struggled. Sure he misplaced a couple of short passes that could have been expensive, and some of his longer passes were not reaching their target, (commonplace with other centre-halves - try counting how many of Mawson's long balls end up with the opponents in possession). So from the perspective of distribution, certainly not his finest game, but a key player for us. While I think Hector came in and did a good job for three games, and would have kept his place were Tosin not as good as he is, I will be amazed if Tosin is fit and does not start the Preston game.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: bencher on November 25, 2021, 02:09:19 PM
There were some stray passes, and one over-confident pass through the lines which led to Davies nipping in and running through to the edge of the box. But I felt his defending was mostly good. And one thing he gives us, far too easily overlooked, is good recovery pace. Hector doesn't have it, nor does Ream. He showed it once in the first half when he put on the afterburners and mopped up.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: jarv on November 25, 2021, 02:28:23 PM
A few poor passes. Can happen to anyone in any game.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: Somerset Fulham on November 25, 2021, 02:30:13 PM
An off night with the pasing but I thought both he and Tete made some fantastic tackles.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: bobbo on November 25, 2021, 02:37:35 PM
Not his best performance last night but he's been soo good for so many games I can certainly allow him one dodgy performance it's the players who ha ve one good performance and then 5 or more dodgy ones that need dropping for a game or two —— and I've got one in mind
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: blingo on November 25, 2021, 03:05:14 PM
1st game back after suspension, no more to add.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: Andy S on November 25, 2021, 03:07:42 PM
I have he was awful bring back Hector
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: FFC1987 on November 25, 2021, 03:10:02 PM
Its funny how we all perceive the game so differently. I thought defensively, Tosin was ok/good, just shadowed by his poor passing. Seen him better but didn't think he was that bad. Same posters I disagreed with on Muniz yesterday. Maybe its a play styles thing. 
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: Whitestone on November 25, 2021, 03:10:17 PM
Poor performance ? I don't think so. The odd stray pass. Maybe. But that goes for all of the back four including Ream who I thought was the best player out there yesterday.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: LC on November 25, 2021, 03:13:09 PM
The manager said 6 players were sick, some of which played 3 of which (our regular starters) didn't play.

Pretty clear from our performance. 
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: ALG01 on November 25, 2021, 04:13:03 PM
I thought picking Tosin and error and I got nno pleasure that he was woeful along with many others.
They looked like they were not well so not suprised to hear that confirmed.

I think they all get a free pass if they were unwell but tosin I think maybe should not have been told your position is unassailable. It seems to me hector was OK but tosin walked straight back in, not a good way to manage young men and does nothing to inspire competion.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: Twig on November 25, 2021, 05:13:11 PM
He didn't have his best game last night, his passing was simply erratic. At one point in the first half I'm pretty sure I saw a flash of frustration in his expression. I think he knew he was struggling for consistency.  Having said that I wouldn't drop him, his partnership with Ream has been excellent and he probably just needs another match to settle back down.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: Ronnief on November 25, 2021, 05:22:09 PM
Although his distribution was not good last night I thought he directed/controlled the back line, especially at set pieces. 092.gif
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: davew on November 25, 2021, 05:31:50 PM
Is Mawson injured?
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: JimOG on November 25, 2021, 07:07:55 PM
Quote from: davew on November 25, 2021, 05:31:50 PM
Is Mawson injured?
Good question. I realise that the subs bench had to have a spread i.e. Hector covering CB, BDR up top but it looks like Mawson is not rated - might go in January?
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: bencher on November 25, 2021, 07:25:12 PM
Mawson is probably a victim of the poor showing at Highfield Road, Ricoh Stadium, Northampton or wherever Coventry play these days
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: filham on November 25, 2021, 09:44:42 PM
The manager may have difficulty finding 11 proven players free of a virus for Saturday. If Tosin is virus free he plays.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: Cookie6262 on November 25, 2021, 11:08:51 PM
Probably his worse game this season and we kept a clean sheet so I reckon we keep him in.
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: Andy S on November 25, 2021, 11:17:54 PM
We kept a clean sheet in spite of him not because of him. Bring back hector
Title: Re: Tosin
Post by: Whitestone on November 25, 2021, 11:38:28 PM
Quote from: Andy S on November 25, 2021, 11:17:54 PM
We kept a clean sheet in spite of him not because of him. Bring back hector

We kept a clean sheet because we defended as a team. Derby failed to put us under any pressure, particularly in the second half. Maybe the odd counter attack. Derby we're fortunate to get a point.