.........is Arm. Chosen for his goal. *
...also, highly recommended for the assist is Second Arm.
* Selections made by the Sky commentary team, after consultations with the ref.
Bahahahah
I don't agree we were victims of a wrong decision.
The first contact with the Preston player's arm keeps the ball out of the net. How can that be a handball offence by Preston? The second contact is clearly above the line of Evans' shirt.
Rodak? He has to be stronger and force his way to the ball.
Quote from: Arthur on November 27, 2021, 02:46:54 PM
I don't agree we were victims of a wrong decision.
The first contact with the Preston player's arm keeps the ball out of the net. How can that be a handball offence by Preston? The second contact is clearly above the line of Evans' shirt.
Rodak? He has to be stronger and force his way to the ball.
Well tried for the wind up, but no, it hasn't worked.
Quote from: ron on November 27, 2021, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: Arthur on November 27, 2021, 02:46:54 PM
I don't agree we were victims of a wrong decision.
The first contact with the Preston player's arm keeps the ball out of the net. How can that be a handball offence by Preston? The second contact is clearly above the line of Evans' shirt.
Rodak? He has to be stronger and force his way to the ball.
Well tried for the wind up, but no, it hasn't worked.
Don't think it's a wind up. Personally, I see it the same way, the ball was going in & it was a Preston hand that kept it out.
We didn't deserve any more than a point today. Could be a valuable one come the end of the season.
A handball offence will only be called when the ball hits your arm, which is defined to be lower than your armpit. It was clear that the side of his bicep, well below his armpit, was the part of the body that put the ball across the goal.
Quote from: ron on November 27, 2021, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: Arthur on November 27, 2021, 02:46:54 PM
I don't agree we were victims of a wrong decision.
The first contact with the Preston player's arm keeps the ball out of the net. How can that be a handball offence by Preston? The second contact is clearly above the line of Evans' shirt.
Rodak? He has to be stronger and force his way to the ball.
Well tried for the wind up, but no, it hasn't worked.
It's my opinion.
clear foul on Rodak
Ball strikes outstretched arm, ie not in a natural position, does not matter if it is unintentional .. it's handball. Doesn't matter at all if the ball was going in or not. If that is factual, I'm not sure how much of that can be contradicted by an opinion.
Then it hits Evans lower shoulder and upper arm .. also handball I believe and again you cannot score any goal with any part of your arm.
Yes Rodak should be stronger, but it's a clever foul preventing him getting to the ball...still a foul.
But hey ho .... on another day Robinson might have got a red ....
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 27, 2021, 03:17:42 PM
Ball strikes outstretched arm, ie not in a natural position, does not matter if it is unintentional .. it's handball. Doesn't matter at all if the ball was going in or not. If that is factual, I'm not sure how much of that can be contradicted by an opinion.
All of those things matter.
Arm position, intention, where and when the handball occurs - the referee can use his discretion on each count.
Quote from: Arthur on November 27, 2021, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 27, 2021, 03:17:42 PM
Ball strikes outstretched arm, ie not in a natural position, does not matter if it is unintentional .. it's handball. Doesn't matter at all if the ball was going in or not. If that is factual, I'm not sure how much of that can be contradicted by an opinion.
All of those things matter.
Arm position, intention, where and when the handball occurs - the referee can use his discretion on each count.
I think you're giving the referee a huge amount of credit to suggest he made those specific decisions in that instant. I think it more likely that he just didn't see it strike both players arms.
And even if you don't want to call handball for some reason, or the initial obvious foul on Rodak, Riis was offside when the initial header hit his outstretched arm (twice).
Quote from: Jamie88 on November 27, 2021, 04:01:09 PM
Quote from: Arthur on November 27, 2021, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 27, 2021, 03:17:42 PM
Ball strikes outstretched arm, ie not in a natural position, does not matter if it is unintentional .. it's handball. Doesn't matter at all if the ball was going in or not. If that is factual, I'm not sure how much of that can be contradicted by an opinion.
All of those things matter.
Arm position, intention, where and when the handball occurs - the referee can use his discretion on each count.
I think you're giving the referee a huge amount of credit to suggest he made those specific decisions in that instant. I think it more likely that he just didn't see it strike both players arms.
You may well be right.
I was simply pointing out to the person to whom I replied that all aspects of that goal require interpretation. To have an opinion, therefore, on whether the goal deserved to stand is a valid position.