Needs to start tonight..... it's his sort of game
Don't agree at all, Seri (especially after that article about last season) and Reed with his energy and work rate.
For me Cairney and Reed to start, however whoever is left out will be unlucky.
Seri and Reed will start. Can't drop Seri who has six assists to his name so far and I wouldn't want to start Cairney together with Seri because we need the tenaciousness of Reed.
I can see Cairney getting a late winner from outside the box
Seri is better than Cairney so he should start with Reed.
Seri & Reed to start with Cairney coming on second half I reckon.
Did not make the bench at Preston. Must have been last to recover from virus. Substitute at best.
Cairney and Reed for me with Seri coming off the bench. But I'll be happy with whoever Silva decides on. I think it may depend a bit on whether anyone has any lingering effects from the norovirus outbreak as we clearly need our eleven starters to be 100%.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 03, 2021, 08:06:35 AM
For me Cairney and Reed to start, however whoever is left out will be unlucky.
Why not seri?
He's the best of the three
seri has been a stand out player this season but in his last two outtings you would never know. He was dreadful against derby and preston.
I am sure the manager will make the right choice but for me I would play tom and seri with reed in the team too if they are all 100% fit and healthy. But I suspect tom is not so will probablky be on the bench and I hope seri plays as well as he can rather than the sickness related poor efforts in the last two.
As has been said Seri is the best of the three so should start with Reed, but Cairney will play a big role off the bench.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on December 03, 2021, 10:59:39 AM
As has been said Seri is the best of the three so should start with Cairney, but Cairney will play a big role off the bench.
This game will be a battle and I think we need Seri and Reed with cairney or Onomah off the bench. No need to play with a team that is unbeaten in 9/10.
I think there're a few players (Rodak, Seri, Kebano, Mitro) who'll have a point to prove tonight against Parker, who didn't rate them when he was here. Hopefully we'll see all of them this eve.
I'd happily have Tom in the team too though - he's always class IMO.
Harrison will also be quite important tonight IMO, as Solanke drops quite deep for the ball right now (false 9 role), and I'd rather Reed was in there to break up that link (and stop our CBs from leaving gaps by chasing the striker away from goal).
Excited for tonight - a 6-pointer if there ever was one.
Seri is a wonderful player but I don't feel like he can control a game quite like Tom can.
Cairney has an almost unique ability to pull the strings and bring other players into play. Seri can spot and play a pass as good as anyone in the division but Tom seems to be able to start moves that haven't even begun yet.
Would love to find a way to play both of them, otherwise I think it's a case of horses for courses and shifting them about ad the game needs.
Madness not to start Seri & Reed. Billings is a danger & it needs Reed to deal with him. Cairney is not tenacious enough.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 03, 2021, 08:06:35 AM
For me Cairney and Reed to start, however whoever is left out will be unlucky.
Cairney can start as he is marginally better than Seri, but he isn't as fit and playing 90 minutes is a long time so if TCs starts then Seri should substitute him sometime during in the second half when TC runs out of puff.
Seri/Cairney isn't the choice - it's Cairney/Carvalho.
And for tonight, where I think we want to have as near to 100% of the ball as possible, it's Cairney for me, at least to start.
Quote from: Radiowhite on December 03, 2021, 10:45:01 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 03, 2021, 08:06:35 AM
For me Cairney and Reed to start, however whoever is left out will be unlucky.
Why not seri?
He's the best of the three
Nothing against Seri, we are lucky to have all three, nevertheless Seri's Achilles Heel is that he can be a little lightweight and is easily outmuscled in some games. So it's a bit horses for courses and for tonight's match I would start with Cairney and Reed, but if Seri starts then he will get my support but Cairney is the playmaker and put his foot on the ball, and creates and has vision, and Reed with his tenacity and work rates mean they compliment each other.
However I understand your point of view also.
I am thinking more about the balance of the team.
This is the big decision for tonight ,which two from Seri,Cairney,Reed. The rest of the team picks itself.
Really it depends on who is 100% fit ,if all three are then I think I would start with Seri,& Reed and bring Cairney on in the 2nd half if things are not working well.
Quote from: wback on December 03, 2021, 12:20:50 PM
Seri/Cairney isn't the choice - it's Cairney/Carvalho.
And for tonight, where I think we want to have as near to 100% of the ball as possible, it's Cairney for me, at least to start.
Interesting alternative pov. Dropping Carv to the bench is the only way Silva could, realistically, play all three of Cairney, Seri and Reed. It could be a night for more experienced heads so having Carvalho available to cause havoc coming off the bench is an interesting option.
Quote from: Twig on December 03, 2021, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: wback on December 03, 2021, 12:20:50 PM
Seri/Cairney isn't the choice - it's Cairney/Carvalho.
And for tonight, where I think we want to have as near to 100% of the ball as possible, it's Cairney for me, at least to start.
Interesting alternative pov. Dropping Carv to the bench is the only way Silva could, realistically, play all three of Cairney, Seri and Reed. It could be a night for more experienced heads so having Carvalho available to cause havoc coming off the bench is an interesting option.
Sorry... I should of said TC in for Carv.... Just think TC can change a game & he has the experience
Cairney has a great left foot, that's it, adds nothing else never gets stuck in, give me Reed Seri all day long grafters....
Quote from: ex-Pat on December 03, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
Cairney has a great left foot, that's it, adds nothing else never gets stuck in, give me Reed Seri all day long grafters....
lol
Quote from: ex-Pat on December 03, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
Cairney has a great left foot, that's it, adds nothing else never gets stuck in, give me Reed Seri all day long grafters....
He always crops up to diss TC.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 03, 2021, 12:25:01 PM
Quote from: Radiowhite on December 03, 2021, 10:45:01 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 03, 2021, 08:06:35 AM
For me Cairney and Reed to start, however whoever is left out will be unlucky.
Why not seri?
He's the best of the three
Nothing against Seri, we are lucky to have all three, nevertheless Seri's Achilles Heel is that he can be a little lightweight and is easily outmuscled in some games. So it's a bit horses for courses and for tonight's match I would start with Cairney and Reed, but if Seri starts then he will get my support but Cairney is the playmaker and put his foot on the ball, and creates and has vision, and Reed with his tenacity and work rates mean they compliment each other.
However I understand your point of view also.
I am thinking more about the balance of the team.
If seri is lightweight cairney is a feather.
Not that I wouldn't be happy to see cairney play, we are lucky to have 3 great options.
For me, reeds inability to find a forward pass is an issue.
Quote from: ex-Pat on December 03, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
Cairney has a great left foot, that's it, adds nothing else never gets stuck in, give me Reed Seri all day long grafters....
What did the Roman's ever do for us
Quote from: simplyfulham on December 03, 2021, 11:21:18 AM
Seri is a wonderful player but I don't feel like he can control a game quite like Tom can.
Cairney has an almost unique ability to pull the strings and bring other players into play. Seri can spot and play a pass as good as anyone in the division but Tom seems to be able to start moves that haven't even begun yet.
Would love to find a way to play both of them, otherwise I think it's a case of horses for courses and shifting them about ad the game needs.
Could not agree more. Seri has not been up to his usual high standards in the last two games, giving the ball away far too easily at times. Tom seems to keep the ball, find a pass and play others in more frequently. But as you say, horses for courses.
seri was poor v posh and on came cairney and made a massive difference.
dunno how people can ignore this and say seri is better than cairney? seri had another poor game recently but might have been ill. no tc to replace him that game.
i reckon tc will be on the bench as he wont be match fit after illness but i hope he can make a difference if/when he comes on. i do like reed and seri but they both can have dodgy games.
hope tonight isnt one of them.
i do prefer cairney as a no.10
shame we cant play him seri and reed.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 03, 2021, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on December 03, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
Cairney has a great left foot, that's it, adds nothing else never gets stuck in, give me Reed Seri all day long grafters....
What did the Roman's ever do for us
hahahaha!!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 03, 2021, 12:25:01 PM
Quote from: Radiowhite on December 03, 2021, 10:45:01 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 03, 2021, 08:06:35 AM
For me Cairney and Reed to start, however whoever is left out will be unlucky.
Why not seri?
He's the best of the three
Nothing against Seri, we are lucky to have all three, nevertheless Seri's Achilles Heel is that he can be a little lightweight and is easily outmuscled in some games. So it's a bit horses for courses and for tonight's match I would start with Cairney and Reed, but if Seri starts then he will get my support but Cairney is the playmaker and put his foot on the ball, and creates and has vision, and Reed with his tenacity and work rates mean they compliment each other.
However I understand your point of view also.
I am thinking more about the balance of the team.
Interesting, im a cairney fan but he must be up there with one of the weakest players i've ever seen in a Fulham shirt. i am exteemely surprised you said seri is lighweight compared to him
i too am a cairney fan but would never argue with anyone about his strength in the tackle
seri and reed make sense if it is to be a battle in midfield.
Quote from: Twig on December 03, 2021, 02:29:21 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on December 03, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
Cairney has a great left foot, that's it, adds nothing else never gets stuck in, give me Reed Seri all day long grafters....
He always crops up to diss TC.
He's not wrong though
Quote from: ex-Pat on December 03, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
Cairney has a great left foot, that's it, adds nothing else never gets stuck in, give me Reed Seri all day long grafters....
Quote from: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on December 03, 2021, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Twig on December 03, 2021, 02:29:21 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on December 03, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
Cairney has a great left foot, that's it, adds nothing else never gets stuck in, give me Reed Seri all day long grafters....
He always crops up to diss TC.
He's not wrong though
yes he is and so are you. lol
i bet you actually hated it when cairney delivered that ball in for the goal. plus 3 other dangerous balls in.
but he didnt get stuck in enough so silva shouldnt have brought him on.
Ahem..... And he get's an assist.....what a pass
I'll hold my hands up, Cairney changed the game for us.
The kid is great BUT the class of TC shines through .
Quote from: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on December 03, 2021, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Twig on December 03, 2021, 02:29:21 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on December 03, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
Cairney has a great left foot, that's it, adds nothing else never gets stuck in, give me Reed Seri all day long grafters....
He always crops up to diss TC.
He's not wrong though
Yes, he is wrong. In terms of an eye for a telling through pass, and initiating an attack, Cairney is one of the best players in the game. He may play almost entirely using the one leg, but he is still more effective than most who use both. Just not enough pace, exacerbated by his knee problems, for Premier League football, sadly.
People who think TC's only strength is a good left foot, and as a consequence believes that he is some sort of luxury player does not understand the first thing of football. In my opinion. He is several classes above most players in this division, and we will always be a better team with him in it, assumlng he is reasonably fit. Thankfully Reed finally had a good game today, which means that we have a luxury problem for the midfield two.
Further, in my opinion TC does not compete with Carvalho but with Reed and Seri. In a tough game like today there may be a point I using Reed, but most games lately he has been more of a problem with his non-existent eye for a pass.
I thought he changed the game today
Personally I'd of started him
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 03, 2021, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on December 03, 2021, 01:30:40 PM
Cairney has a great left foot, that's it, adds nothing else never gets stuck in, give me Reed Seri all day long grafters....
What did the Roman's ever do for us
Built Hadrians Wall lol
Great assist from Cairney today. He has that ability to unlock defences. Will be a key player for us this season. If we're to play him though, it should be in a midfield three. The question is why drops out for him? Maybe no one does and we move to a midfield three in the second half if we're lacking creativity.
Based on tonights performance Cairney starts and Carvalho sits on the bench.
TC was, IMO, a monster whereas Carvalho didnt quite live up to expectations.
Not to say Carvalho isn't real quality but he's still coming on and could learn a lot from TC...still the cap for me AND needs to start
who is to say if the subs had been made earlier we might have got a win?
3 clever through balls from tc for kebano mitro and tosin and any one could have led to a goal.
Carvalho wasnt up to his usual high standards and surely TC could be played instead of him keeping seri and reed in midfield?