Did Boscombe end up with 11 player's on the park.....and 2 penalty decisions that we didn't get
Quite bewildering
Sky darlings. That's why.
I was expecting one going off at any given moment . They certainly got away with a lot.
Didn't see too much that was to bad to be honest?
A few definitely went against us (as I'm sure bourenmouth will say), but it was no worse than the regular stuff at this level.
The penalty of couse should have been given.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on December 03, 2021, 11:13:08 PM
Didn't see too much that was to bad to be honest?
A few definitely went against us (as I'm sure bourenmouth will say), but it was no worse than the regular stuff at this level.
The penalty of couse should have been given.
The challenge on Kebano after 10 mins is a red card all day, studs up half way up his calf. VAR would've have him off in about 5 seconds flat, have a look at the highlights because it was a stinker, let alone the challenge through the back of Kebano by their RB about 25 mins later
https://twitter.com/cursedefl/status/1466867552441806850?s=21
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on December 03, 2021, 11:13:08 PM
Didn't see too much that was to bad to be honest?
A few definitely went against us (as I'm sure bourenmouth will say), but it was no worse than the regular stuff at this level.
The penalty of couse should have been given.
Pen was a bit soft though really.
This wasn't the worst officiating we've seen this season? The off side last week was outstanding :clap_hands:
1st penalty against Wilson....all day a penalty....2nd penalty against Mitro... Mitro get's wrestled to the ground....all day a penalty..... The Kebano foul, was wreckless & out of control red card
I thought it was a good game though out, yes ridiculous how we let the first goal go in but well worked by them. Yes some of the decisions went against us but as Somerset say's Bournemouth will feel the same. Still top of the league though.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 03, 2021, 11:43:18 PM
1st penalty against Wilson....all day a penalty....2nd penalty against Mitro... Mitro get's wrestled to the ground....all day a penalty..... The Kebano foul, was wreckless & out of control red card
All valid shouts. Ref seemed to apply "It's a man's game" in his percipience of the law. One was surprised that the Championship has different rules than the Premiership especially the raised studs challenge which is a clear red. Thought we all played the same sport??!!
Quote from: Penfold on December 03, 2021, 10:23:51 PM
Sky darlings. That's why.
Why is that ?
The camera didn't leave Parker the whole game, we were far superior but listen to the commentator you'd never of known it
Quote from: perry geyton on December 03, 2021, 11:57:34 PM
Quote from: Penfold on December 03, 2021, 10:23:51 PM
Sky darlings. That's why.
Why is that ?
The camera didn't leave Parker the whole game, we were far superior but listen to the commentator you'd never of known it
Sky seem to be in love with Brentford and Bournemouth these days
Lewis Cook should have been sent off.
The Wilson one was definitely a pen.
I thought the Mitro one in the 2nd half was a pen at first glance, but after a couple of replays he was falling to the ground searching for it I felt - probably a 50/50 call.
Another poor referee already on the list of incompetents who just fail to do the job they are paid for and, week in week out, make matters steadily worse. The penalties were very clear and the assault on Kebano a text book version of reckless. You would expect a competent ref to get two out of three right or one out of three on a bad day. However, in my books, Cairney should have either started or appeared much earlier second half since he is the only midfielder who seems regularly able to find gaps for passes to go without trying to force the pace.
Cahill's handball on the line? Stretched his elbow surely 1500.gif
Quote from: Moltobueno on December 04, 2021, 07:30:22 AM
Cahill's handball on the line? Stretched his elbow surely 1500.gif
Yep, would have been given with VAR. Not sure what the co commentator was seeing when he said his arms were by his side. Wilson one also, so two pens first half for us denied
If Wilson hadn't flung himself to the ground like he'd be shot then we may have been given that pen. The contact was pretty light and he made a meal of it
Quote from: Deeping_white on December 03, 2021, 11:39:49 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on December 03, 2021, 11:13:08 PM
Didn't see too much that was to bad to be honest?
A few definitely went against us (as I'm sure bourenmouth will say), but it was no worse than the regular stuff at this level.
The penalty of couse should have been given.
The challenge on Kebano after 10 mins is a red card all day, studs up half way up his calf. VAR would've have him off in about 5 seconds flat, have a look at the highlights because it was a stinker, let alone the challenge through the back of Kebano by their RB about 25 mins later
https://twitter.com/cursedefl/status/1466867552441806850?s=21
But you can clearly see that the lino didn't have a clear view of the tackle........
Quote from: cookieg on December 04, 2021, 07:56:33 AM
Quote from: Deeping_white on December 03, 2021, 11:39:49 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on December 03, 2021, 11:13:08 PM
Didn't see too much that was to bad to be honest?
A few definitely went against us (as I'm sure bourenmouth will say), but it was no worse than the regular stuff at this level.
The penalty of couse should have been given.
The challenge on Kebano after 10 mins is a red card all day, studs up half way up his calf. VAR would've have him off in about 5 seconds flat, have a look at the highlights because it was a stinker, let alone the challenge through the back of Kebano by their RB about 25 mins later
https://twitter.com/cursedefl/status/1466867552441806850?s=21
But you can clearly see that the lino didn't have a clear view of the tackle........
When you look at the challenge Tosin got sent off for, how can this not be a red
Pretty daming pictures. The only mitigating factor was the frenetic pace of the first half but difficult to explain this one.
A potential leg breaker and should have been a straight red , especially if Tosin's was, or Wilson earlier this season.
Salonke on Wilson a clear pen- don't agree that it was soft and he went down too easily - Salonke took his legs away, and don't see how he couldn't go down.
Whilst "in the modern game" (as they say), Bournemouth could have received a red card for the challenge on Kebano and we could have had a penalty for Solanke's tap on Wilson's shin, I don't think either should have been given. Re the tackle on Kebano, their player did not slide in from distance with force. He was almost stationary by the time his foot came up a fraction, as part of natural movement. It was not a tackle that could have seriously injured Kebano. I would have been fuming had one of our players been sent off for something like that (and Seri made a similar challenge in the second half, as did Joe Bryan). As for the penalty, yes, "there was contact", but I dislike the modern trend for giving penalties for any contact. Harry didn't need to leap up theatrically and hurl himself to the ground. In truth, he was not really impeded for what was minimal contact.
So, we did not get the rub of the green by modern standards, but I would rather not see penalties and red cards being given for incidents like these.
The ref must have left his pack of red cards at home and and brought two sets of yellows by mistake. He seemed to be showing yellows all of the game.
I agree neither would I. The thing is though if the laws of the game change it should be the same for everyone, and not just The elite. We should have VAR at the level we are to correct any poor decisions
Quote from: Plodder on December 04, 2021, 10:01:26 AM
Whilst "in the modern game" (as they say), Bournemouth could have received a red card for the challenge on Kebano and we could have had a penalty for Solanke's tap on Wilson's shin, I don't think either should have been given. Re the tackle on Kebano, their player did not slide in from distance with force. He was almost stationary by the time his foot came up a fraction, as part of natural movement. It was not a tackle that could have seriously injured Kebano. I would have been fuming had one of our players been sent off for something like that (and Seri made a similar challenge in the second half, as did Joe Bryan). As for the penalty, yes, "there was contact", but I dislike the modern trend for giving penalties for any contact. Harry didn't need to leap up theatrically and hurl himself to the ground. In truth, he was not really impeded for what was minimal contact.
So, we did not get the rub of the green by modern standards, but I would rather not see penalties and red cards being given for incidents like these.
I think you are right on the red (non red card). He was nudged by a Fulham player and there was no force in the tackle. If given it would not have been surprising, but in a game of this magnitude I can see why the ref would leave it as a yellow.
I think there were two pens in the game though. That is where I have a problem with Robinson. Solanke is beat on the change of direction and he kicks Wilson but not the ball. That's a penalty. Cahill's elbow is way out from his body and stops the ball from going in the net. Hands on your hips is not a natural position. It is a position intending to make your body bigger on the line. With VAR I think those both become penalties.
Quote from: Andy S on December 04, 2021, 10:24:24 AM
I agree neither would I. The thing is though if the laws of the game change it should be the same for everyone, and not just The elite. We should have VAR at the level we are to correct any poor decisions
I agree that the laws of the game should be applied in the same way for everyone, although my way of achieving that would be to remove VAR from all levels of the game. But that's another discussion.
I didn't see the Boscombe game, who were they playing?
Quote from: Plodder on December 04, 2021, 10:01:26 AM
Whilst "in the modern game" (as they say), Bournemouth could have received a red card for the challenge on Kebano and we could have had a penalty for Solanke's tap on Wilson's shin, I don't think either should have been given. Re the tackle on Kebano, their player did not slide in from distance with force. He was almost stationary by the time his foot came up a fraction, as part of natural movement. It was not a tackle that could have seriously injured Kebano. I would have been fuming had one of our players been sent off for something like that (and Seri made a similar challenge in the second half, as did Joe Bryan). As for the penalty, yes, "there was contact", but I dislike the modern trend for giving penalties for any contact. Harry didn't need to leap up theatrically and hurl himself to the ground. In truth, he was not really impeded for what was minimal contact.
So, we did not get the rub of the green by modern standards, but I would rather not see penalties and red cards being given for incidents like these.
I haven't yet seen any of the incidents again so I cannot say whether I agree with your interpretation of the events involving Kebano and Wilson, but I do agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment of your post.
I was fine with yellow on the Kebano tackle. There was no force or violent intent.
Wilson's was a penalty, and I'd say with VAR, Mitro getting rugby tackled on a header also was a penalty.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on December 03, 2021, 11:13:08 PM
Didn't see too much that was to bad to be honest?
A few definitely went against us (as I'm sure bourenmouth will say), but it was no worse than the regular stuff at this level.
The penalty of couse should have been given.
There wasn't a bad foul the entire game but plenty of cynical fouls which would have got yellow cards on another day. A few of the Bournemouth players took one for the team and fortunately got away with it. A foul on Harry Wilson when he was breaking away in the first half was a classic case and again in the second half. Both fouls were in the Bournemouth half and we were attacking, not even sure the ref gave foul for the second one, but the player may have already been booked and he bottled it as he did for the penalty, which was a stone wall foul.