Just can't warm to the cheat
I really despise him.
Pity as he has talent
Yes he's a cheat but also quite ineffective for Man City, at £100m he's even worse value than Harry Maguire at £85m. Certainly Foden showing he's comfortably the better player.
Such a sweet fall to the turf for the penalty
Quote from: bog on February 05, 2022, 05:06:00 PM
Such a sweet fall to the turf for the penalty
I think you have to imagine just how many times he has practiced falling in front of a big mirror in his bedroom. I bet he fixes his hair between each one.
And the refs just lap it up as demonstrated when Moss decided to ignore the blatant dive by the WHU player today.
Never a pen, cheating little ....
Grealish is talented and he has clearly concentrated on developing his diving technique to a point where it is a major asset.
Surely though referees will soon be aware of it and it will earn him nothing but cards.
he sums up all that is wrong with the game for me.
in my eyes the aim for any forward is to score goals. stay on your feet skillfully avoid tackles and score. sadly that mindset is long gone and not been the case for years.
going out of your way and almost basing your whole game around deceit is just low down almost cowardly and not in the spirit of the game.
but refs buy it, coaches instill it into their players and the fans have all adopted this win at all costs mentality that i hate with a passion. if the fans booed it even of their own players i am sure it would stop.
ive been accused of shouting get up you nancy.
im a sad old dinosoar lol.
The thing is, it's rife in the game now. There aren't managers who say 'don't do that' etc and certainly no players honest enough to stay on their feet.
Hes always been a diver though, now he just does it with £100 million price tag.
i think he is overrated and consequently over-valued. He has not really contributed very much to the England team.
i loathe him and see no merit to a selfish player that cheats endlessly
Right near he end Muniz was 'touched' in the box and I thought....Grealish would have gone down there, and Sterling isn't averse to a bit of the Tom Daley's either.
Spends a lot of time going sideways and backwards waiting/hoping to be fouled. He was great at Villa, but looks like a hundred million quid down the toilet for City
Quote from: MartyFFC on February 05, 2022, 10:46:09 PM
Spends a lot of time going sideways and backwards waiting/hoping to be fouled. He was great at Villa, but looks like a hundred million quid down the toilet for City
He was the big fish at Villa. He is now bang average. Foden is a vastly superior player but Pep has to play him because he spent so much getting him in.
As Gentleman Jim would say "Get up you tart!"
Quote from: Snibbo on February 06, 2022, 12:09:49 AM
As Gentleman Jim would say "Get up you tart!"
Lol , horrible man, but great skill. If only of he was a decent human being.
Fastly becoming one of my most disliked players alongside Zaha
Sometimes I feel like people on this board live in an alternate universe.
It was a clear penalty, how on earth are some of you saying it wasn't ? Joe completely takes him out. Let alone the fact Joe knows straight away it's a pen, doesn't even look at the ref and just walks away.
Did he have control of the ball, probably not but he doesn't have to be it's not in the rules.
Did he look for and lean into the challenge, yes.
Was it a penalty, unfortunately yes.
Is he a sh!t? Yes!
Quote from: Sammyffc on February 06, 2022, 04:51:08 AM
Sometimes I feel like people on this board live in an alternate universe.
It was a clear penalty, how on earth are some of you saying it wasn't ? Joe completely takes him out. Let alone the fact Joe knows straight away it's a pen, doesn't even look at the ref and just walks away.
Only seen the incident on MOTD and have to say I thought it was a penalty, Grealish got touched and went, same a Stirling last time we played them. I just wish Mitro got the same level of decisions by refs and also Harry. Still got annoyed when he got blatantly pushed in the back earlier this year and got nothing, yet others get the slightest touch and they go and get the decision.
The obvious solution to this entire thread is, football should abandon the concept of the penalty. Instead, like everywhere else on the pitch, it should be a free-kick, whether direct or indirect.
The penalty has come to totally dominate football, in terms of diving, VAR etc. Obviously many penalties are missed, but there is a huge advantage to the penalty taker, and consequently a huge incentive to win a penalty. Why should minor contact on the corner of the box, with 14 players and 18 yards between the fouled player and the goal lead to an almost certain goal? Why does a backpass lead to a an IFK, but a handball because the arm is supposedly not in a natural position leads to an almost certain goal?
If you were inventing football from scratch, would you find it logical to include this rule?
Quote from: TC's Sporran on February 05, 2022, 07:02:46 PM
he sums up all that is wrong with the game for me.
in my eyes the aim for any forward is to score goals. stay on your feet skillfully avoid tackles and score. sadly that mindset is long gone and not been the case for years.
going out of your way and almost basing your whole game around deceit is just low down almost cowardly and not in the spirit of the game.
but refs buy it, coaches instill it into their players and the fans have all adopted this win at all costs mentality that i hate with a passion. if the fans booed it even of their own players i am sure it would stop.
ive been accused of shouting get up you nancy.
im a sad old dinosoar lol.
I am right with you its so tainted the game now it he's even crossed my mind to stop going , but only crossed my mind .
Quote from: bencher on February 06, 2022, 11:58:18 AM
The obvious solution to this entire thread is, football should abandon the concept of the penalty. Instead, like everywhere else on the pitch, it should be a free-kick, whether direct or indirect.
The penalty has come to totally dominate football, in terms of diving, VAR etc. Obviously many penalties are missed, but there is a huge advantage to the penalty taker, and consequently a huge incentive to win a penalty. Why should minor contact on the corner of the box, with 14 players and 18 yards between the fouled player and the goal lead to an almost certain goal? Why does a backpass lead to a an IFK, but a handball because the arm is supposedly not in a natural position leads to an almost certain goal?
If you were inventing football from scratch, would you find it logical to include this rule?
I agree with you, just don't understand it. The punishment so infrequently fits the crime in PK situations. On the play yesterday, Grealish has way overplayed the ball, but since JB is nearby he makes sure the contact occurs. There was no lost goal scoring opportunity, but somehow Citeh are rewarded with a PK. Just don't see how it benefits the game.
I don't think it was a penalty yesterday, but I also don't think that Grealish dived. A player in the style of the lad is always going to draw fouls if he is allowed to play his natural game and I don't see why this is an issue for so many?
This board really does have a hardon for for the player and it's most odd.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on February 06, 2022, 01:31:28 PM
I don't think it was a penalty yesterday, but I also don't think that Grealish dived. A player in the style of the lad is always going to draw fouls if he is allowed to play his natural game and I don't see why this is an issue for so many? This board really does have a hardon for for the player and it's most odd.
Agreed, and I know it's a contrary opinion here. I think Grealish is a great player. But guys like him, Neymar, et al, because they are on the ball so much, they are naturally gonna get fouled a lot, likely much more than the average player. I also think ALL players dive or take a fall on soft contact to draw a foul/penalty. That's widespread throughout the game. As far as that play was concerned, I thought it was probably a penalty, though it was not blatant.
Quote from: Sammyffc on February 06, 2022, 04:51:08 AM
Sometimes I feel like people on this board live in an alternate universe.
It was a clear penalty, how on earth are some of you saying it wasn't ? Joe completely takes him out. Let alone the fact Joe knows straight away it's a pen, doesn't even look at the ref and just walks away.
On the tv stream I watched the commentators were expressing doubt about the penalty award.
https://twitter.com/thesportsman/status/1490335905613336577?s=21
He is bell end but has his heart in the right place.
The other players didn't even look over.
Honestly, that's wonderful.
Diving aside, he actually seems a good bloke and he's definitely a great player.
Quote from: Luka on February 06, 2022, 08:41:29 PM
https://twitter.com/thesportsman/status/1490335905613336577?s=21
He is bell end but has his heart in the right place.
The other players didn't even look over.
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In an interview I heard, he seemed a decent bloke, not up himself, though his on pitch antics get up people's noses.
He's a very skillful player, but one of his skills is 'drawing fouls', terrible phrase that says a lot about the modern game, but I suppose if he played for your team you wouldn't criticize this.
The pen was debatable - it certainly looked soft, and Grealish seemed to go down way too easily, but not surprised it was given - Jamie in the commentary thought it was a definite pen.
Not sure what else Grealish could do but to go over and see the lass - she had posters with Grealish scrawled all over them. No idea why he's getting plaudits for this, was the least he could do. She looked a lovely lass.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on February 07, 2022, 09:46:25 AM
Not sure what else Grealish could do but to go over and see the lass - she had posters with Grealish scrawled all over them. No idea why he's getting plaudits for this, was the least he could do. She looked a lovely lass.
I think that's a bit harsh.
As I watched MOTD and saw his stupid questioning face after kicking the ball away and then falling over the nearest opposition player, I was shouting obscenities at him.
But, I was touched by this video, not that he did anything amazing, but the little thing that he did choose to do brought such joy to that girl and her family. Fair play.
Think Tosin would have been sent off if he would have done to Greedish what was done to him after the 2nd goal....Greedish would have been on the deck looking for the magic sponge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvHubmevDNk 0:43 in the video
Quote from: Dixie on February 07, 2022, 01:50:03 PM
Quote from: HamsterWheel on February 07, 2022, 09:46:25 AM
Not sure what else Grealish could do but to go over and see the lass - she had posters with Grealish scrawled all over them. No idea why he's getting plaudits for this, was the least he could do. She looked a lovely lass.
I think that's a bit harsh.
As I watched MOTD and saw his stupid questioning face after kicking the ball away and then falling over the nearest opposition player, I was shouting obscenities at him.
But, I was touched by this video, not that he did anything amazing, but the little thing that he did choose to do brought such joy to that girl and her family. Fair play.
I think it is easy to get confused with a players on field 'persona' with what they are like as a person. I'm not saying all players are lovely, warm hearted blokes off the pitch, but using another example - Robbie Savage who was always a total **** on the pitch, but comes across as a fairly decent down to earth bloke when he is presenting and doing interviews etc (however, I have never met him!)
Watching the video of yesterdays game, I hated the way Grealish reacts for the penalty, as if the challenge on him was some kind of personal affront. Earlier in game there was a bit of needle with Chalobah after a challenge - yet a few mins later Grealish is the first player to run over and check on Chalobah after he goes down injured.
Quote from: Lordedmundo on February 07, 2022, 02:16:48 PM
Quote from: Dixie on February 07, 2022, 01:50:03 PM
Quote from: HamsterWheel on February 07, 2022, 09:46:25 AM
Not sure what else Grealish could do but to go over and see the lass - she had posters with Grealish scrawled all over them. No idea why he's getting plaudits for this, was the least he could do. She looked a lovely lass.
I think that's a bit harsh.
As I watched MOTD and saw his stupid questioning face after kicking the ball away and then falling over the nearest opposition player, I was shouting obscenities at him.
But, I was touched by this video, not that he did anything amazing, but the little thing that he did choose to do brought such joy to that girl and her family. Fair play.
I think it is easy to get confused with a players on field 'persona' with what they are like as a person. I'm not saying all players are lovely, warm hearted blokes off the pitch, but using another example - Robbie Savage who was always a total twit on the pitch, but comes across as a fairly decent down to earth bloke when he is presenting and doing interviews etc (however, I have never met him!)
Watching the video of yesterdays game, I hated the way Grealish reacts for the penalty, as if the challenge on him was some kind of personal affront. Earlier in game there was a bit of needle with Chalobah after a challenge - yet a few mins later Grealish is the first player to run over and check on Chalobah after he goes down injured.
I was thinking of this earlier. I am a solicitor and you sometimes have to be a bit of a d*ck for your clients to get the best result for them, but that doesn't mean that is your true personality. Actually, come to think of it...
Lots of fuss about Grealish but few questioning our defending. He was allowed to waltz through without any serious challenge. That's what disappointed me most.
Quote from: Whitestone on February 07, 2022, 05:33:41 PM
Lots of fuss about Grealish but few questioning our defending. He was allowed to waltz through without any serious challenge. That's what disappointed me most.
I can just imagine the gnashing of teeth and hissy fits thrown if Robinson had given away that penalty.
Quote from: YankeeJim on February 08, 2022, 04:47:58 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on February 07, 2022, 05:33:41 PM
Lots of fuss about Grealish but few questioning our defending. He was allowed to waltz through without any serious challenge. That's what disappointed me most.
I can just imagine the gnashing of teeth and hissy fits thrown if Robinson had given away that penalty.
Robinson probably wouldn't of got near him considering the amount of time he's caught out of position.