Tom Cairney, Fulham's "Glenn Hoddle" has not been capped yet by ex-Chelsea employee Steve Clarke. Is Clarke putting club before country, allowing his hatred of local rivals take presidence over what is best for his country??
When one views Billy Gilmour and John McGinn chosen to supersede the brilliant Cairney, it beggars belief. Cairney possibly considered as a Championship player even though last season he was in the top division, he has returned again and will wow fans and neutrals, mark my words. Cairney is a thinking man's footballer, has great vision and the skill to deliver.
Cairney can score penalties, unlike England's Mason Mount who Southgate seems to build the national team around because of second-in-charge Steve Holland Chelsea influence.
But whatever the situation, I shall be rooting for Wales: at least they play their BEST players!
Not sure Cairney wants to be involved!
When you look at the state of their midfield, it's astonishing he hasn't had more caps. Maybe the fact he was born in Nottingham has worked against him
Have to agree with Nick Bateman first time ever
Clearly he is not a mason, or he would have a cupboard full of caps by now. You tell them, Nick!
Cairney has carried various knee problems over the past 4 years over International breaks.
It's not like he can just walk into the side.
Remember to tip the wait staff.
And Scott McTominey as a centre-back... really???!!!
Quote from: Moltobueno on June 01, 2022, 08:49:02 PM
Have to agree with Nick Bateman first time ever
I also believe the Earth is round.
Ukraine deserved the win. Clarke used "Steve bruce" hoof-and-hope football while Ukraine used guile. Clarke should be sacked and great, I repeat, great players like Tom Cairney will make Scotland a better team. Look waht Modric did for Croatia? 'Nuff said!
I agree that Scotland's midfield appeared really disjointed as compared to Ukraine's ability to see a pass and make it. Cairney is a class above when fit and I hope he gets playing time in the PL this season. He is still a class act and it's worth managing that dodgy knee just to catch glimpses of his magic. It just baffles me that he wasn't in that squad last night.
Steve Clarke was interviewed, but never got the Fulham job - to him if we had the best Scottish player in the world on our books he would not pick him until he changed clubs - he is a proper MacNumpty!!!
From a selfish, Fulham, point of view I'd rather Tom were resting his knee or getting any treatment it needs than in the Scotland squad. Not sure if he'd agree though.
Has to be a benefit for Fulham that Cairney is free of international duties which would only serve to aggravate his dodgy knee.
We need a fully fit Cairney to start the season he could prove to be the key player in our midfield.
If you saw the first half yesterday Clarke set his team up to play long. Tc wouldn't have had touch.
tom needs the long rest and better for us he is overlooked
he surely does not suit the scotland style.
I think that was really because of the situation,the worst
opponent the Scots could have met last night.
That young blonde lad who came on near the end looks a top prospect....any chance Tony? :022:
He insists on wearing his Fulham underpants under his kilt
Didn't he retire from international football?
In any case I shall be cheering on Wales on Sunday. They will play our own Harry Wilson and possible returnee Neco Williams. Williams reminds me of a young Gareth Bale who should also feature. Thought the Dutch ref had a good game, not giving every dive both teams did in Hampden. Premier League could learn from that!
Quote from: Moltobueno on June 01, 2022, 08:49:02 PM
Have to agree with Nick Bateman first time ever
lol, same here
Some of you will have to finally let the idea of Cairney playing PL go. not good enough.
Quote from: ex-Pat on June 02, 2022, 05:58:34 PM
Some of you will have to finally let the idea of Cairney playing PL go. not good enough.
If so true, then we will need to face it that half the team are in the same boat and TC.
Quote from: Logicalman on June 03, 2022, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: ex-Pat on June 02, 2022, 05:58:34 PM
Some of you will have to finally let the idea of Cairney playing PL go. not good enough.
If so true, then we will need to face it that half the team are in the same boat and TC.
A big agree.
Given his knee problems his appearances for us this season have been limited.
The very last thing he would need is more games.
They bypass the midfield and he would get a dodgy neck,let him rest to start season fit.
He does not need Sunday Morning Football at this stage.
We need to keep him fresh and finely tuned as despite his lack of pace and only having one foot most of the time, he has vision and foresight and is currently the only player Fulham have who has genuine creativity at that level.
Nick, your comment about TC is a bit thoughtless. I love it when he plays but he is a shadow of the player he was before the long lay off. Also he is past his prime now and selections for internationals run in 2 year cycles, ie, will he still be performing in 2 years time at the next tournament.
Scotland crude...way off the mark. Good midfield, excellent full backs but no decent striker and mediocre centre backs. If TC can fill either of those 2 positions I would be delighted.
To me, it also sounds a bit thoughtless, or at least like a huge exaggeration, to state that TC is "a shadow of the player he was...". In my opinion he had several games this season where he bossed the games and looked a class above the Championship. Just like before.
But that is just my opinion.
Quote from: jarv on June 05, 2022, 09:18:18 AM
Nick, your comment about TC is a bit thoughtless. I love it when he plays but he is a shadow of the player he was before the long lay off. Also he is past his prime now and selections for internationals run in 2 year cycles, ie, will he still be performing in 2 years time at the next tournament.
Scotland crude...way off the mark. Good midfield, excellent full backs but no decent striker and mediocre centre backs. If TC can fill either of those 2 positions I would be delighted.
Quote from: Sting of the North on June 05, 2022, 04:43:08 PM
To me, it also sounds a bit thoughtless, or at least like a huge exaggeration, to state that TC is "a shadow of the player he was...". In my opinion he had several games this season where he bossed the games and looked a class above the Championship. Just like before.
But that is just my opinion.
Cairney is a wonderous talent. If he were in a club more appreciative of his talents he would prove his full potential. Some Fulham followers, while one appreciates their honest appraisals, are not witnessing what I view with my own knowledge of the game we love.
Tom Cairney is a "thinking man's" footballer, again not saying those who don't rate him as unthinking, I am talking about the style of his game. He READS the match, sees teammates' runs, has great vsion of things around him, and has the ability to deliver that pinpoint pass that others in the squad fail to do constantly. TC's pass rate must be one of the highest, while former colleague Seri would be nowhere near, for example.
Silva hasn't been consistant in selecting him, and usually when he is omitted, Fulham invariably lose. Watch next season and you shall see.
Agree, TC is a great talent (and a joy to watch). Is he 31? What playing time he has left at he top should be reserved for Fulham and key games when we are not so likely to be on the back foot.