Popped into the ticket office earlier.
Have not been down to the Cottage for awhile.
The £100 ticket !!!
I didn't buy.
Quote from: Robbie on December 21, 2022, 05:06:46 PM
Popped into the ticket office earlier.
Have not been down to the Cottage for awhile.
The £100 ticket !!!
I didn't buy.
I also wouldn't pay £100 for a league match ticket but the sad truth is that there are plenty that will, that's why they can price the riverside so high
Have had this conversation before and has also been brought up with the club, the fulham supporters Trust did a survey which suggested the prices for tickets in the new stand and across the club in general were so bad now that fans are now actively not going to the matches as a result. It's a huge mistake in my opinion by the club and very against the general financial environment but also value for money for most and also simply the values of the club.
I went to Europe twice this year and return flights for both cost less than they're trying to charge fans for one afternoon supporting the club, which for instance I've supported for 20+ years.
Part of me thought it was to recoup costs for the new Riverside stand but we ran the maths and there seemed little basis as to why they'd go that steep (based on just incremental jump of only new seats, let alone pumping the prices across the entire stadium).
Almost worthy of a fan protest in truth, I think fulham's match day tickets are now some of the most expensive in the league (which given we've only just got back to the prem is excessive after having gone up and down a lot).
Part of me is concerned that the club is trying to build a business case for the US invasion that's happening with club ownership and the idea of games abroad to expand reach for the global market. It wouldn't be a huge leap. All in all concerning and it can't be stressed in any uncertain or soft terms.
I say that also knowing that the club have done surveys historically asking for their supporters income brackets and fulhams apparent reputation of having the most well heeled fans. Equally concerning if they've taken that data and manipulated it to exploit fans more.
You can find the survey results from the supporter Trust here.
https://www.fulhamsupporterstrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Survey-Headlines-Dec-2022-Club-Meeting.pdf
Part of what's written about match ticket prices are as follows.
Match tickets
Pricing an issue for many
• Pricing remains a big issue
• Under one in ten satisfied / very satisfied with match ticket prices
• Significant impact on ability of supporters to attend home games
• Non STHs have attended one third fewer games as a proportion than 2021/22
• Two thirds cite ticket prices as reason
• A lot of supporters are no longer attending at all
• One in three who bought tickets in 2021/22 has attended no games this season
• Further one in four has attended only one game this season
• On average these fans attended seven games in 2021/22
• Long term supporters are the most impacted
• Biggest impact is on supporters who have attended more than 20 years
• Half of all other longevity groups say they have been impacted
Supporter since 1960.
However, back in the day I played football so saturday at 3pm was usually out of the question. I went as often as I could (midweek, holiday games etc). Living in America for over 30 years been back to Fulham almost every year to catch a game or two.
Now living back in UK, 100 quid a ticket, NOT A CHANCE. I almost don't care now if we get relegated and prices become reasonable again.
How many people were surveyed and how did you survey them?
I see nothing about that on the presentation, plus largest group 26-35? i can hardly find that group anywhere in CC apart from the hammy end so thats curious ( EDIT - ah yes i see now their spiritual home section )
What's all the fuss about ? It's not £100 for all tickets. There are plenty of other tickets at significantly lower prices and there are season tickets which make attendance even more affordable.
Quote from: Whitestone on December 22, 2022, 08:11:56 AM
What's all the fuss about ? It's not £100 for all tickets. There are plenty of other tickets at significantly lower prices and there are season tickets which make attendance even more affordable.
You have to bring people in. No-one will buy a season ticket off the bat without knowing his/her kids like the match experience.
Besides when it's clear we are staying up the Khans will bleed us s/t holders for all they can get. We won't be so happy then...
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Quote from: General on December 21, 2022, 10:00:06 PM
Have had this conversation before and has also been brought up with the club, the fulham supporters Trust did a survey which suggested the prices for tickets in the new stand and across the club in general were so bad now that fans are now actively not going to the matches as a result. It's a huge mistake in my opinion by the club and very against the general financial environment but also value for money for most and also simply the values of the club.
I went to Europe twice this year and return flights for both cost less than they're trying to charge fans for one afternoon supporting the club, which for instance I've supported for 20+ years.
Part of me thought it was to recoup costs for the new Riverside stand but we ran the maths and there seemed little basis as to why they'd go that steep (based on just incremental jump of only new seats, let alone pumping the prices across the entire stadium).
Almost worthy of a fan protest in truth, I think fulham's match day tickets are now some of the most expensive in the league (which given we've only just got back to the prem is excessive after having gone up and down a lot).
Part of me is concerned that the club is trying to build a business case for the US invasion that's happening with club ownership and the idea of games abroad to expand reach for the global market. It wouldn't be a huge leap. All in all concerning and it can't be stressed in any uncertain or soft terms.
I say that also knowing that the club have done surveys historically asking for their supporters income brackets and fulhams apparent reputation of having the most well heeled fans. Equally concerning if they've taken that data and manipulated it to exploit fans more.
well it's the one thing that I dislike about SK.
But remember when this was announced by SK he did say that Fulham fans would pay for it and so it's proving loved sitting in the Riverside as a s/t holder before the rebuild but he did warn us.
I can remember when I could have watched Haynes for a season at the Cottage for less than £100.
Rumours about redevelopment of the Hammersmith end,I will say now leave well alone.
:Happy New Year:h
Quote from: hovewhite on December 22, 2022, 10:53:45 AM
Rumours about redevelopment of the Hammersmith end,I will say now leave well alone.
But its not fit for purpose as it is! I get near panic attacks if I go down there at half time...
Quote from: Whitestone on December 22, 2022, 08:11:56 AM
What's all the fuss about ? It's not £100 for all tickets. There are plenty of other tickets at significantly lower prices and there are season tickets which make attendance even more affordable.
Exactly, seems to just be a post to moan.
Its like me saying
Popped into a shop earlier. $100 for a wine !! i didnt buy.
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You have to bring people in. No-one will buy a season ticket off the bat without knowing his/her kids like the match experience.
Besides when it's clear we are staying up the Khans will bleed us s/t holders for all they can get. We won't be so happy then...
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And how exactly will the Khans bleed us s/t holders? We have paid for our season tickets already.
I remember when the price of monkey nuts went up to 5p and thought "This will ruin football".
Quote from: cookieg on December 22, 2022, 02:36:17 PM
You have to bring people in. No-one will buy a season ticket off the bat without knowing his/her kids like the match experience.
Besides when it's clear we are staying up the Khans will bleed us s/t holders for all they can get. We won't be so happy then...
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And how exactly will the Khans bleed us s/t holders? We have paid for our season tickets already.
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That's this season
Quote from: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on December 22, 2022, 02:48:12 PM
Quote from: cookieg on December 22, 2022, 02:36:17 PM
You have to bring people in. No-one will buy a season ticket off the bat without knowing his/her kids like the match experience.
Besides when it's clear we are staying up the Khans will bleed us s/t holders for all they can get. We won't be so happy then...
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And how exactly will the Khans bleed us s/t holders? We have paid for our season tickets already.
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That's this season
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Well then people can choose if they renew or not. Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head forcing them to buy a ticket for £100. As mentioned there are plenty of cheaper tickets elsewhere in the ground.
And for what it's worth, if my s/t is subsidised by the tourist or the supporter that only wants to watch a big 6 game or turn up once in a blue moon then long may it continue.
Quote from: cookieg on December 22, 2022, 03:05:37 PM
Quote from: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on December 22, 2022, 02:48:12 PM
Quote from: cookieg on December 22, 2022, 02:36:17 PM
You have to bring people in. No-one will buy a season ticket off the bat without knowing his/her kids like the match experience.
Besides when it's clear we are staying up the Khans will bleed us s/t holders for all they can get. We won't be so happy then...
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And how exactly will the Khans bleed us s/t holders? We have paid for our season tickets already.
That's this season
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Well then people can choose if they renew or not. Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head forcing them to buy a ticket for £100. As mentioned there are plenty of cheaper tickets elsewhere in the ground.
And for what it's worth, if my s/t is subsidised by the tourist or the supporter that only wants to watch a big 6 game or turn up once in a blue moon then long may it continue.
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You nailed it on the head. Some supporters do think they have a devine right to craven cottage and should be paying the same as they did when they first went.
Its not that i disagree with them in regards to prices, its just that as you said there are many cheaper seats they can go to. Yes the seats in the riverside are expensive however they mostly sell, which angers the supporters who complain about prices even more. Its a cycle
£8 to watch my local side Newmarket,you get value
for it as there is always a fight on the pitch and a red card.😅
Quote from: cookieg on December 22, 2022, 02:40:09 PM
I remember when the price of monkey nuts went up to 5p and thought "This will ruin football".
It clearly has!
A couple of generalisations:
Most fans watch football because it's sport.
Most SUCCESSFUL football club owners run their club as a business.
The 2 approaches don't necessarily fit together well.
Quote from: cookieg on December 22, 2022, 02:36:17 PM
You have to bring people in. No-one will buy a season ticket off the bat without knowing his/her kids like the match experience.
Besides when it's clear we are staying up the Khans will bleed us s/t holders for all they can get. We won't be so happy then...
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And how exactly will the Khans bleed us s/t holders? We have paid for our season tickets already.
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I think the gentleman is suggesting, Fulham stay up, season tickets are increased heavily.
To those who say that there are plenty of cheaper tickets than £100, yes of course there are. However even the cheapest at around £50 (depending on which category match) are still expensive. And even more so when you consider how hopelessly dated the facilities are in areas like the Hammy End.
Don't get me wrong, I still buy some tickets every season and I'm fortunate in that I can afford it, but I am very conscious that some people are being priced out of the game and that's very unfortunate.
The answer is to have a ST especially if you live in London (Hammy £35 a game), those of us outside of London will struggle with escalated train fares to come from March. That will more than likely finish me being ST holder sadly and as mentioned above the prices of £50 to £100 will mean about 5 games a season tops.
It is not a problem specific to Fulham; it is football generally, but above all the Premier League which is more about business than glory or pleasure in the the game these days.
There are tickets cheaper than £100, and if I were single, I would consider buying the occasional ticket for £60, but paying to take a family to a game is too much to ask. It is of course a market, and there obviously people who think it is worth it, so I don't believe in agitating for a substantial price reduction. My "protest" is simply not to go any more. Surprisingly, I don't really miss it. A lot of the games are on live on TV, I can see highlights of the rest, and I don't feel I am shelling out massively to subsidise the lifestyle of outrageously overpaid footballers.
I thought I needed go to games, fairly regularly at least, but I'm coping quite well with hardly ever going - at least we can listen to GJ and watch many games on TV.
It's hard for me to justify spending all that money, when the cheapest home tickets are about 50 quid, then there's fares.
I was seriously thinking going to the Palace game - since Boxing Day football is the best thing about Christmas for me, and you can't beat it - but this would have meant an early morning coach for a five hour journey, then traveling back on the coach overnight - well I've done it plenty of times before, but the game was sold out-
and maybe that was for the best for me - not putting myself through that travelling, and saving the money, at least it's on Sky I think.
Something special about going to a Boxing Day game though!
Quote from: RaySmith on December 23, 2022, 02:02:15 AM
I thought I needed go to games, fairly regularly at least, but I'm coping quite well with hardly ever going - at least we can listen to GJ and watch many games on TV.
It's hard for me to justify spending all that money, when the cheapest home tickets are about 50 quid, then there's fares.
I was seriously thinking going to the Palace game - since Boxing Day football is the best thing about Christmas for me, and you can't beat it - but this would have meant an early morning coach for a five hour journey, then traveling back on the coach overnight - well I've done it plenty of times before, but the game was sold out-
and maybe that was for the best for me - not putting myself through that travelling, and saving the money, at least it's on Sky I think.
Something special about going to a Boxing Day game though!
Just a tip on this - the game is on Amazon Prime Video, rather than Sky. Hope you still get to watch it.
For 6 season tickets. I paid something like £1300. That was an adult, senior citizen and 4 kids.
Not sure what more you want the club to do. They reward loyal season ticket holders. If go spasmodically then it makes sense that those tickets will be more since those attendees are just as likely to be be fair weather, neutral , or corporate etc
I agree that the tickets are expensive but we have stayed at craven cottage, built an incredible new stand and are competing at the highest level of English football.
We all have choices. I still enjoy going to watch lower division and non league football. You will find that a kids season ticket is probably the same price at AFC Wimbledon ..
Its a serf mindset to rationalise your exploitation and I understand where it comes from for some of the contrarians defending fans being fleeced. But you cannot put lipstick on a pig. This is a foolish short term strategy which will hardly touch the sides of recuperating investment in the riverside stand
Quote from: howitis on December 23, 2022, 09:09:09 AM
For 6 season tickets. I paid something like £1300. That was an adult, senior citizen and 4 kids.
Not sure what more you want the club to do. They reward loyal season ticket holders. If go spasmodically then it makes sense that those tickets will be more since those attendees are just as likely to be be fair weather, neutral , or corporate etc
I agree that the tickets are expensive but we have stayed at craven cottage, built an incredible new stand and are competing at the highest level of English football.
We all have choices. I still enjoy going to watch lower division and non league football. You will find that a kids season ticket is probably the same price at AFC Wimbledon ..
This isn't a discussion about the cost of season tickets and to dismiss other supporters' concern with an "I'm alright Jack" response is a bit smug. I was a ST holder for years and I agree that the cost is still reasonable. However there are plenty of fans, including myself these days, who cannot justify a season ticket for a host of perfectly good reasons. Sadly the cost of tickets for this large group of FFC supporters has skyrocketed (even with Fulham membership).
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This isn't a discussion about the cost of season tickets and to dismiss other supporters' concern with an "I'm alright Jack" response is a bit smug. I was a ST holder for years and I agree that the cost is still reasonable. However there are plenty of fans, including myself these days, who cannot justify a season ticket for a host of perfectly good reasons. Sadly the cost of tickets for this large group of FFC supporters has skyrocketed (even with Fulham membership).
So true. You don't go from your first game to season ticket holder overnight. There has to be access. New generations of fans have to start somewhere.
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It started with closure of Riverside I bought the subject up then and was criticized by a lot of posters at the time for daring to criticize SK and my sentiments were spot on then and I feel the same now.
Quote from: Twig on December 23, 2022, 11:14:24 AM
Quote from: howitis on December 23, 2022, 09:09:09 AM
For 6 season tickets. I paid something like £1300. That was an adult, senior citizen and 4 kids.
Not sure what more you want the club to do. They reward loyal season ticket holders. If go spasmodically then it makes sense that those tickets will be more since those attendees are just as likely to be be fair weather, neutral , or corporate etc
I agree that the tickets are expensive but we have stayed at craven cottage, built an incredible new stand and are competing at the highest level of English football.
We all have choices. I still enjoy going to watch lower division and non league football. You will find that a kids season ticket is probably the same price at AFC Wimbledon ..
This isn't a discussion about the cost of season tickets and to dismiss other supporters' concern with an "I'm alright Jack" response is a bit smug. I was a ST holder for years and I agree that the cost is still reasonable. However there are plenty of fans, including myself these days, who cannot justify a season ticket for a host of perfectly good reasons. Sadly the cost of tickets for this large group of FFC supporters has skyrocketed (even with Fulham membership).
So you want your cake and eat it. You will not commit to a season ticket, whether on you own or shared. Circa £300 between 2 but want to go very occasionally and have access to cheap tickets.
We had that in the lower divisions when there were very poor crowds and the football was largely crap.
You can't have it all.
Another option was to buy a season ticket and then release some games back to the club to recoup some money.
Away games are maximum £30, which is also good value but appreciate you can't always get a ticket without having built up loyalty points etc.
Football has changed and yes it is expensive but I am afraid that is the way it is . I get tired of fans bashing the club and the owners. They are doing a good job.
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This isn't a discussion about the cost of season tickets and to dismiss other supporters' concern with an "I'm alright Jack" response is a bit smug. I was a ST holder for years and I agree that the cost is still reasonable. However there are plenty of fans, including myself these days, who cannot justify a season ticket for a host of perfectly good reasons. Sadly the cost of tickets for this large group of FFC supporters has skyrocketed (even with Fulham membership).
So true. You don't go from your first game to season ticket holder overnight. There has to be access. New generations of fans have to start somewhere.
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There was lots of season tickets available when in the championship. If you had purchased one then you would have been guaranteed for for the premier League. Be loyal, commit to the club and the club rewards you back.
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Quote from: Twig on December 23, 2022, 11:14:24 AM
Quote from: howitis on December 23, 2022, 09:09:09 AM
For 6 season tickets. I paid something like £1300. That was an adult, senior citizen and 4 kids.
Not sure what more you want the club to do. They reward loyal season ticket holders. If go spasmodically then it makes sense that those tickets will be more since those attendees are just as likely to be be fair weather, neutral , or corporate etc
I agree that the tickets are expensive but we have stayed at craven cottage, built an incredible new stand and are competing at the highest level of English football.
We all have choices. I still enjoy going to watch lower division and non league football. You will find that a kids season ticket is probably the same price at AFC Wimbledon ..
This isn't a discussion about the cost of season tickets and to dismiss other supporters' concern with an "I'm alright Jack" response is a bit smug. I was a ST holder for years and I agree that the cost is still reasonable. However there are plenty of fans, including myself these days, who cannot justify a season ticket for a host of perfectly good reasons. Sadly the cost of tickets for this large group of FFC supporters has skyrocketed (even with Fulham membership).
So you want your cake and eat it. You will not commit to a season ticket, whether on you own or shared. Circa £300 between 2 but want to go very occasionally and have access to cheap tickets.
We had that in the lower divisions when there were very poor crowds and the football was largely crap.
You can't have it all.
Another option was to buy a season ticket and then release some games back to the club to recoup some money.
Away games are maximum £30, which is also good value but appreciate you can't always get a ticket without having built up loyalty points etc.
Football has changed and yes it is expensive but I am afraid that is the way it is . I get tired of fans bashing the club and the owners. They are doing a good job.
Sorry, are you offering to share a ST with me because if not I still suggest you sound smug.
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This isn't a discussion about the cost of season tickets and to dismiss other supporters' concern with an "I'm alright Jack" response is a bit smug. I was a ST holder for years and I agree that the cost is still reasonable. However there are plenty of fans, including myself these days, who cannot justify a season ticket for a host of perfectly good reasons. Sadly the cost of tickets for this large group of FFC supporters has skyrocketed (even with Fulham membership).
So true. You don't go from your first game to season ticket holder overnight. There has to be access. New generations of fans have to start somewhere.
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There was lots of season tickets available when in the championship. If you had purchased one then you would have been guaranteed for for the premier League. Be loyal, commit to the club and the club rewards you back.
Exactly, this is what annoys me the most about our fanbase. In the championship over the last few years we had so many seats in some games and loads of season tickets, where were the loyal fans then?
The reason they complain now is because they want to watch other top players in the league for cheap and it annoys them, and thats it