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Villa (H) - 17 Feb original date
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Damnit, no changes. And Broja must injured.
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1758853811840729271?s=20
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Hopefully not the plague... ::tongue:: COYW ::scarf::
Come on!!! ::scarf::
Being shown on Optus Sport 6
Robinson's new aerodynamic haircut will make him even faster
Robinson has actually had a hair cut
Quote from: btffc on February 17, 2024, 03:04:08 PMRobinson's new aerodynamic haircut will make him even faster
And cooler (temperature wise...)
Interesting tactical decision by Marco to drop Joao in between the CBs in possession and push the FBs well up the pitch.
Thought Andeas could have done a bit better there
push in the back?
Probably a dive from Reid but worth a shot I guess because he wasn't going to get to the ball.
Ream jumped the gun
Nearly Ream
Starting to grow into the game now
Had to be Watkins didn't it
Oh dear
WTH throw in...
shugar
What a ridiculous throw in
What the hell was Antonee thinking???
I don't get it ::angry::
willian at fault there?
terrible throw in from jedi though
Terrible throw by Robinson
Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 17, 2024, 03:24:16 PMWhat the hell was Antonee thinking???
I don't think he's known to be a thinker.
Quote from: davew on February 17, 2024, 03:23:44 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 03:22:32 PMStarting to grow into the game now
Who? ::angry::
Well we did. They scored that goal because of an idiotic move from Robinson. Not because of their brilliant play.
4 of them hounding reid there
i wish ap wouldnt do that
Willian probably shouldn't have made the run he did in the first place to give Robinson the option to do that, but Antonee has to know better.
Quote from: TC's Sporran on February 17, 2024, 03:24:24 PMwillian at fault there?
terrible throw in from jedi though
Don't blame Willian. Donkey Diop could have done better though.
Quote from: Benhamdoun on February 17, 2024, 03:29:02 PMQuote from: TC's Sporran on February 17, 2024, 03:24:24 PMwillian at fault there?
terrible throw in from jedi though
Don't blame Willian. Donkey Diop could have done better though.
Not Diop's fault whatsoever. Don't get why you hate the guy so much.
Quote from: Benhamdoun on February 17, 2024, 03:29:02 PMQuote from: TC's Sporran on February 17, 2024, 03:24:24 PMwillian at fault there?
terrible throw in from jedi though
Don't blame Willian. Donkey Diop could have done better though.
Don't blame anyone except Robinson's moment of madness
Come on, you teach U8's you don't throw-in towards your goal.
First that high boot in Diop's face, than that blatant foul on Palhinha and now a foul on Andreas. Dirty Villa.
It is a throw in we use all the time and generally to really good effect. Usually do it higher up the pitch however. Very dangerous there and just got horribly wrong. Yet another mistake leading to a goal this year..already more than the whole of last season. So frustrating as been decent in the main.
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 03:31:03 PMQuote from: Benhamdoun on February 17, 2024, 03:29:02 PMQuote from: TC's Sporran on February 17, 2024, 03:24:24 PMwillian at fault there?
terrible throw in from jedi though
Don't blame Willian. Donkey Diop could have done better though.
Not Diop's fault whatsoever. Don't get why you hate the guy so much.
He's a clumsy oaf. The worst of our 4 central defenders by a mile. Not surprised that no one else wanted him off Spam.
robinsons haircuts gone to his head
phew disallowed goal for villa
looks off
Looks off to me
God this looks tight. Please no
this is too close
Quote from: Benhamdoun on February 17, 2024, 03:41:00 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 03:31:03 PMQuote from: Benhamdoun on February 17, 2024, 03:29:02 PMQuote from: TC's Sporran on February 17, 2024, 03:24:24 PMwillian at fault there?
terrible throw in from jedi though
Don't blame Willian. Donkey Diop could have done better though.
Not Diop's fault whatsoever. Don't get why you hate the guy so much.
He's a clumsy oaf. The worst of our 4 central defenders by a mile. Not surprised that no one else wanted him off Spam.
He's been excellent so far today. Disagree with everything else you said as well.
phew
That would have been game over. Come on Fulham get back in this frigging game
At least not a second gift.
How many minutes of added time after two injury stoppages and the var check
They seem to be too good for the team we have on the pitch. Changes at half time?
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 03:43:38 PMHow many minutes of added time after two injury stoppages and the var check
None probably
Quote from: LittleErn on February 17, 2024, 03:43:47 PMThey seem to be too good for the team we have on the pitch. Changes at half time?
I dont think they are too good. We were on top before the stupid mistake. It is a confidence game at this point.
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 03:43:38 PMHow many minutes of added time after two injury stoppages and the var check
7
7 seems like too much but I won't complain
Ouch - could have been worse - thanks Leno for keeping us in it
willian gave the ball away then and very nearly costly
Big save from Leno that. Another mistake from us!
Villa should be out of sight at half time. We have provided very little going forward and made cheap, silly mistakes in midfield. Can't wait to see what we can change at half time.
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 03:45:22 PMQuote from: LittleErn on February 17, 2024, 03:43:47 PMThey seem to be too good for the team we have on the pitch. Changes at half time?
I dont think they are too good. We were on top before the stupid mistake. It is a confidence game at this point.
Only going on GJs commentary - they seem to be getting better chances than us. More one-on-ones? Have to admit, the stats are fairly even. I just don't remember many times that we have had a clear chance on goal.
Pretty even game but we've made two mistakes for their only two shots on target and they scored one. Nightmares. Decent up to the final third but only one shot on target ourselves with 7 attempts. Subs early with our strong bench. Iwobi for BDR I'd say after 55 mins if we haven't scored.
Negatives: Too many sloppy mistakes. Robinson all over the place, and I don't just mean that because of their goal. Andreas started slowly but woken up since. BDR needs to be subbed off at half time, I might even be tempted to put Adama on. Moreno loves to go forward and Adama could use the space he leaves behind.
Positives:we were the better team before conceding. Had some nice moments since.
1) That throw in was woeful all round. Willian should never have made that run, and Robinson shouldn't have been stupid enough to throw it towards the centre of the pitch that close to our own goal.
2) Nothing is going right at the other end. A few snapshots from Muniz and Pereira that didn't come close to threatening their goal. Only notable chance was from the corner.
3) Remember when we were playing Bassey at RCB and how Arsenal exploited that? Well, they've got two left footed CBs playing and we really should be getting at Lenglet who is playing at RCB. Force him in to silly mistakes.
Can't really think of someone who'd be playing better than a 5 or 6 out of 10 at the moment.
Marco needs to bite the bullet on some early subs.
Get Wilson on for Bobby and Adama to test their high line.
Quote from: Drewry66 on February 17, 2024, 03:56:52 PMPretty even game but we've made two mistakes for their only two shots on target and they scored one. Nightmares. Decent up to the final third but only one shot on target ourselves with 7 attempts. Subs early with our strong bench. Iwobi for BDR I'd say after 55 mins if we haven't scored.
Our shots have been woeful.
Averaging around 0.04 xG per shot.
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 03:42:17 PMQuote from: Benhamdoun on February 17, 2024, 03:41:00 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 03:31:03 PMQuote from: Benhamdoun on February 17, 2024, 03:29:02 PMQuote from: TC's Sporran on February 17, 2024, 03:24:24 PMwillian at fault there?
terrible throw in from jedi though
Don't blame Willian. Donkey Diop could have done better though.
Not Diop's fault whatsoever. Don't get why you hate the guy so much.
He's a clumsy oaf. The worst of our 4 central defenders by a mile. Not surprised that no one else wanted him off Spam.
He's been excellent so far today. Disagree with everything else you said as well.
Watching how both Villa defenders use their upper bodies to move attackers off balance it does strike me how little of that Diop does.
To me that is where Diop could have done better in that scrum. He's a big dude. Use your body more.
Quote from: LittleErn on February 17, 2024, 03:56:36 PMQuote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 03:45:22 PMQuote from: LittleErn on February 17, 2024, 03:43:47 PMThey seem to be too good for the team we have on the pitch. Changes at half time?
I dont think they are too good. We were on top before the stupid mistake. It is a confidence game at this point.
Only going on GJs commentary - they seem to be getting better chances than us. More one-on-ones? Have to admit, the stats are fairly even. I just don't remember many times that we have had a clear chance on goal.
We haven't had a clear chance on goal.
Muniz header from a corner was the closest we've come.
Quote from: WolverineFFC on February 17, 2024, 04:00:52 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 03:42:17 PMQuote from: Benhamdoun on February 17, 2024, 03:41:00 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 03:31:03 PMQuote from: Benhamdoun on February 17, 2024, 03:29:02 PMQuote from: TC's Sporran on February 17, 2024, 03:24:24 PMwillian at fault there?
terrible throw in from jedi though
Don't blame Willian. Donkey Diop could have done better though.
Not Diop's fault whatsoever. Don't get why you hate the guy so much.
He's a clumsy oaf. The worst of our 4 central defenders by a mile. Not surprised that no one else wanted him off Spam.
He's been excellent so far today. Disagree with everything else you said as well.
Watching how both Villa defenders use their upper bodies to move attackers off balance it does strike me how little of that Diop does.
To me that is where Diop could have done better in that scrum. He's a big dude. Use your body more.
But he did do that today? He left both Watkins and Bailey on the floor multiple times.
Can someone please get Jedi a bleached afro wig somewhat resembling what his hair look like before he shaved it off?
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 03:57:24 PMNegatives: Too many sloppy mistakes. Robinson all over the place, and I don't just mean that because of their goal. Andreas started slowly but woken up since. BDR needs to be subbed off at half time, I might even be tempted to put Adama on. Moreno loves to go forward and Adama could use the space he leaves behind.
Positives:we were the better team before conceding. Had some nice moments since.
I certainly think we need to put moreno under more pressure to keep him honest.
Not a bad first half, yes, a bit sloppy, but on balance fairly good. Pereira had great chance to shoot inside box and I thought made poor decision to cross it. Got lucky on VAR review, thought Villa could have got that 2nd goal, although I did think the Ream goal looked good too. Pereira making some excellent crosses/passes.
Again, I thought Leno should have done better on the Watkins score. Yes, sloppy giveaway and throw in, but he's got to do much better. Credit for the stop at the end of stoppage time, but I would have expected a good keeper to make it. FFC need to score first in second half, I fear if Villa make it two nil, game over. Come on Fulham!
Quote from: LittleErn on February 17, 2024, 04:03:56 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 03:57:24 PMNegatives: Too many sloppy mistakes. Robinson all over the place, and I don't just mean that because of their goal. Andreas started slowly but woken up since. BDR needs to be subbed off at half time, I might even be tempted to put Adama on. Moreno loves to go forward and Adama could use the space he leaves behind.
Positives:we were the better team before conceding. Had some nice moments since.
I certainly think we need to put moreno under more pressure to keep him honest.
We need to put Lenglet under pressure.
Left footed CB on the right hand side. Remember Arsenal exploiting Bassey earlier in the season.
Quote from: LittleErn on February 17, 2024, 04:03:56 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 03:57:24 PMNegatives: Too many sloppy mistakes. Robinson all over the place, and I don't just mean that because of their goal. Andreas started slowly but woken up since. BDR needs to be subbed off at half time, I might even be tempted to put Adama on. Moreno loves to go forward and Adama could use the space he leaves behind.
Positives:we were the better team before conceding. Had some nice moments since.
I certainly think we need to put moreno under more pressure to keep him honest.
Definitely. Bobby has been poor so far unfortunately.
Quote from: FFC In Oz on February 17, 2024, 03:59:32 PM3) Remember when we were playing Bassey at RCB and how Arsenal exploited that?
No, I don't. Bassey played LCB in both matches against Arsenal. Perhaps you're referring to the Spurs match.
Shame frigging Broja isn't about today. Muniz has been pretty good but with their high line Broja has a bit of pace to run in behind. Wilson or Adama could be a good shout as well for BDR with Iwobi coming on for Willian later. We haven't created nearly enough so early subs a must Marco.
Iwobi on at the half!
Quote from: FFC In Oz on February 17, 2024, 03:59:32 PM1) That throw in was woeful all round. Willian should never have made that run, and Robinson shouldn't have been stupid enough to throw it towards the centre of the pitch that close to our own goal.
2) Nothing is going right at the other end. A few snapshots from Muniz and Pereira that didn't come close to threatening their goal. Only notable chance was from the corner.
3) Remember when we were playing Bassey at RCB and how Arsenal exploited that? Well, they've got two left footed CBs playing and we really should be getting at Lenglet who is playing at RCB. Force him in to silly mistakes.
Can't really think of someone who'd be playing better than a 5 or 6 out of 10 at the moment.
Marco needs to bite the bullet on some early subs.
Get Wilson on for Bobby and Adama to test their high line.
bit harsh on tc who hasnt put a foot wrong and looked eager to get the ball forward. but everyone else even including willian has been off, still getting the ball in dangerous areas so all is not lost
Wow...half time sub!!
Great thinking Marco, take off Willian instead of BDR, stupid!!
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 04:06:45 PMIwobi on at the half!
For Willian - i would have gone for BDR
Think Willian is injured. Saw someone on twitter say he was holding his hamstring
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 04:08:07 PMQuote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 04:06:45 PMIwobi on at the half!
For Willian - i would have gone for BDR
Me too. At least Willian looked dangerous at times. BDR was very poor. Hopefully he can improve in the second half. If not Adama/Wilson to come on.
Quote from: Drewry66 on February 17, 2024, 04:07:48 PMWow...half time sub!!
Shows how toothless we have been. Again.
Surely an injury of Willian which isn't good if so. Either that or madness instead of BDR. Iwobi is however better off the left.
Come on Iwobi, we like you here.
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 04:06:45 PMIwobi on at the half!
for willian who was not at the races
How is that NOT a backpass?
pass back???
Quote from: davew on February 17, 2024, 04:07:49 PMGreat thinking Marco, take off Willian instead of BDR, stupid!!
maybe he took a knock
WTF. A textbook backpass!
How is that not a backpass? What exactly did the ref think the player was doing?
Quote from: St Eve on February 17, 2024, 04:10:12 PMQuote from: davew on February 17, 2024, 04:07:49 PMGreat thinking Marco, take off Willian instead of BDR, stupid!!
maybe he took a knock
he wasnt playing very well but no worse than bdr
Quote from: Jamie88 on February 17, 2024, 04:11:34 PMHow is that not a backpass? What exactly did the ref think the player was doing?
If Luiz didn't pass it back, Muniz would have kept hold of the ball.
COYW!!!!
Quote from: btffc on February 17, 2024, 04:08:51 PMThink Willian is injured. Saw someone on twitter say he was holding his hamstring
Uh oh...
Final ball!! Arrrggg
Our crossing is not good today
Crossing the ball to the guy in green/yellow is not good...
too many crosses going to their keeper
Make it count Fulham!
So annoying
Iwobi has been good
ooof, Diop...
Was just thinking that Watkins would score again and he does, game over!!
Sucker punch. Villa live off that kind of goal every week!
::angry::
Oh boy
Poor defending there...
oh dear, after looking on top this happens
he was just ignored and left alone.
...and the commentary by Andy Bishop and Efan Ekoku on the international feed is hoping Villa on.
Quote from: TC's Sporran on February 17, 2024, 04:20:49 PMoh dear, after looking on top this happens
No surprise at all!!!!!!!
Copy first goal, paste the second. We dominate for 10 or so minutes then concede after a poor mistake.
Time to adopt plan B except we probably haven't got 1
Wilson for BDR, pls
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 04:23:55 PMWilson for BDR, pls
I'd put Adama on, but Wilson works. BDR has to come off though, imo.
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 04:23:55 PMWilson for BDR, pls
And may as well give Bassey some time...
Muniz!!!!!!!!!
Muniz, WTF!!! ::wine:: ::scarf::
MUNIZ!!!!
Let's goooo
fantastic but simple move!!!
Caught them napping.
Keep fighting boys!
That is class from Muniz!! Keep saying make those striker runs and there we go. Brilliant touch. Come on lads!!
Muniz to surpass Mitro's record from last season? 😉
grat run and pass from tc, well done from jedi to get to the ball and cross it perfectly for muniz to slot home!!
and we dont need iwobi giving it away !!!
I want to see Jimmy Bullard take a Hammy Ender to bring us 3-2 up
Regarding that Diop/Watkins penalty shout. If we didn't get two pebalties in the first half for pushes on BDR, than that is nowhere near a penalty either. Not sure what commentators are talking about.
All this pressure by Fulham makes me nervous - too many bodies forward? Still we have to go for it.
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 04:32:07 PMRegarding that Diop/Watkins penalty shout. If we didn't get two pebalties in the first half for pushes on BDR, than that is nowhere near a penalty either. Not sure what commentators are talking about.
Absolutely...literally exactly the same thing.
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 04:31:31 PMI want to see Jimmy Bullard take a Hammy Ender to bring us 3-2 up
hes too busy injured and fishing
I'm liking the Robinson to Muziz connection (run up the middle). Keep your foot on the gas.
palhinha winding up to his yellow card
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 04:32:07 PMRegarding that Diop/Watkins penalty shout. If we didn't get two pebalties in the first half for pushes on BDR, than that is nowhere near a penalty either. Not sure what commentators are talking about.
Ive turned the sound off. Just bring it up if we score.
Isn't that a Blue Card? ::tongue::
Well done andreas & ream
Clear elbow.
Good subns now we have a chance
Come on big lads!!
Is that a Smedium shirt?
Does Fulham have an English player on the pitch?
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 04:41:43 PMDoes Fulham have an English player on the pitch?
harry
having a go
Knocking on the door a bit here. Come on Fulham
Exciting stuff. COYW!!
Arrrggg....what a ball from Iwobi after the beats won the ball back. So unlucky
Joao got his yellow. Job done.
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 04:41:43 PMDoes Fulham have an English player on the pitch?
Robinson was born in the Milton Keynes and raised in Liverpool, his dad was also born in England but gained American citizenship, that's from wiki,
So we kinda do.
Joao with his yellow
And there's the suspension.
and theres the yellow and subsequent ban
Quote from: Willham on February 17, 2024, 04:49:33 PMQuote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 04:41:43 PMDoes Fulham have an English player on the pitch?
Robinson was born in the Milton Keynes and raised in Liverpool, his dad was also born in England but gained American citizen, that's from wiki,
So we kinda do.
cairney born in nottingham?
Quote from: akf on February 17, 2024, 04:49:22 PMJoao got his yellow. Job done.
So, if he gets another yellow, is it a longer suspension?
Iwobi, Cairney and Robinson were all born in England. They just represent different countries.
Bluddy rubbish ref!
How many wrong decisions has the ref made today, too many!
corner that
Good old Lukic
10 seconds and a yellow...
Quote from: btffc on February 17, 2024, 04:52:04 PMIwobi, Cairney and Robinson were all born in England. They just represent different countries.
Not complaining, just observing
Win one, lose a couple (Today/Next Week), kinda excited for the season to end, fix our goal scoring issue, shore up the back and go again after the Euros
Quote from: btffc on February 17, 2024, 04:52:04 PMIwobi, Cairney and Robinson were all born in England. They just represent different countries.
Iwobi wasn't, he was born in Nigeria, I was about to say the same but had a quick check on wiki first 🤣. And I wasn't sure if cairney was still on the pitch as I hadn't heard his name for a little bit.
Quote from: davew on February 17, 2024, 04:53:23 PMGood old Lukic
He will be gone come summer,has never been good enough, very slow/late at tackling
you cant miss those
Traore is used to scoring at the Putney end in the dying minutes
That was the frigging chance!!! Keeper did well. Deserve a point here. Come on lads
much better after the half time subs. We've got them worried - alas too late.
Lukic did well for that chance and so did Muniz. Adama had to score though.
Will Traore ever score a 1 on 1?
This game could go onto midnight with time wasting villa are doing
Everybody gets a yellow... ::scarf::
This ref is dogs*it by the way.
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on February 17, 2024, 04:56:07 PMWill Traore ever score a 1 on 1?
Not in my lifetime, no end result again. Ref has lost the plot!!
Quote from: SerbianLad on February 17, 2024, 04:57:26 PMThis ref is dogs*it by the way.
First PL game remember...
Not saying he should have, as he had the right to take the shot 100% but muniz was inside and in front of his man and we've seen how good a poacher Muniz can be.
What a pass through by Muniz! We have not seen enough of that part of his game, he slotted it through two players perfectly.
Ugh, deserved something from that.
traore giving the ball away in what could have been our last attack
Quote from: davew on February 17, 2024, 04:57:54 PMQuote from: Sgt Fulham on February 17, 2024, 04:56:07 PMWill Traore ever score a 1 on 1?
Not in my lifetime, no end result again. Ref has lost the plot!!
Dont you remember the one he scored against us
Villa time wasted about 15 minutes. Disgraceful.
Tough loss. Too bad Traore couldn't convert. That's always been his shortcoming, failures to finish. Oh well.....
5 yellows in 10 minutes must be a world record.
Christ almighty how did we lose that? Mistakes cost us yet again. Great effort second half but just couldn't score the second. So frustrating.
Quote from: Willham on February 17, 2024, 04:58:53 PMNot saying he should have, as he had the right to take the shot 100% but muniz was inside and in front of his man and we've seen how good a poacher Muniz can be.
What a pass through by Muniz! We have not seen enough of that part of his game, he slotted it through two players perfectly.
He's in a rich vein. Long may it continue- happy for the kid.
Thought they played "OK", but they are not good enough to give away goals.
Quote from: Drewry66 on February 17, 2024, 04:06:33 PMShame frigging Broja isn't about today. Muniz has been pretty good but with their high line Broja has a bit of pace to run in behind. Wilson or Adama could be a good shout as well for BDR with Iwobi coming on for Willian later. We haven't created nearly enough so early subs a must Marco.
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Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 17, 2024, 04:05:46 PMQuote from: FFC In Oz on February 17, 2024, 03:59:32 PM3) Remember when we were playing Bassey at RCB and how Arsenal exploited that?
No, I don't. Bassey played LCB in both matches against Arsenal. Perhaps you're referring to the Spurs match.
I was indeed.
Wrong North London team haha
Taking a trip in the what-if machine, i wonder what a halftime iwobi-for-bdr swap would have looked like. If life is brought into the side, Willian could have found an immaculate cross or two as he is know to do and we might have walked away 5-2 winners...
Disappointing result after a great second half come-back. It's positive that we can now compete with top half teams, but still too many mistakes and inconsistent performances. I thought the initial team selection was understandable in man-management terms but it felt a bit too negative. Good that Muniz has scored again.
Ref really lost control of that towards the end.
The amount of yellows we were copping for dissent whilst Martinez & Co could do whatever they want in regards to wasting time.
Poor first half with too many mistakes. Better second half but cannot score. Ref on his debut missed a blatant back pass and books our player for co0mplaing when there is a clear corner that the ref thinks is a goal kick. Then wants to show off by throwing yellow cards about to make him look good.
Thought we were poor but not sadly as poor as the referee. Needs time in the lower leagues to learn the game.
Optus sport 6 was the channel I watched and secondary commentator had something against us for sure, talked about villa's domination throughout the game, but I feel that was a very close contest, I feel we had the better of the gane overall, they were very clinical and sprung on our mistakes, it's what they do. Unlucky not to get a point really