Reports Fulham have agreed a deal with Wolves for Raul Jimenez for 5m, apparently a done deal. Being reported by many journos now in the midlands.
Absolutely reeks of a silva signing so we can't criticise as he is allowed what he wants.
Quote from: Sammyffc on July 23, 2023, 02:25:11 PMReports Fulham have agreed a deal with Wolves for Raul Jimenez for 5m, apparently a done deal. Being reported by many journos now in the midlands.
Absolutely reeks of a silva signing so we can't criticise as he is allowed what he wants.
A Mexican International, he must be 6 feet 2 inches at least.
I am generally a glass half full kind of guy, but certainly struggling to get there on this one. He was Wolves highest earner so his wages can't be cheap. The fee seems low, but if it is a 2 year deal, then not so much when you figure in salary and he is 32 y/o on the last year of his deal.
My best attempt at a silver lining would be he replaces Muniz as the 3rd striker eventually and allows the club time to replace Mitro in the window rather than being forced to panic buy.
That being said, I would be fearful if he is seen as Mitro's replacement.
Fulham agree £5.5million deal to sign Wolves striker Raul Jimenez
The Mexican only has one year left on his contract and is understood to be surplus to requirements, and fellow Premier League side Fulham have now agreed a fee after opening talks to sign him.
The London club are targeting Jimenez as a replacement for Aleksandar Mitrovic, who is eager to move to Al Hilal, despite Fulham turning down two offers from the Saudi Arabian club.
Jimenez fell out of favour with Julen Lopetegui last season and was always likely to depart this summer, despite returning to pre-season training in the last few weeks.
The deal will also include add-ons for Wolves to potentially secure additional funds.
https://www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2023/07/23/fulham-in-talks-to-sign-wolves-striker-raul-jimenez/
I guess as things stand this does further weaken a potential rival so not there is that.
If it's a Marco request that's about the only positive I can take if helping him to stay. Apart from that WTF are we doing here?? Barely scored for years, 32 and injury prone. Wolves fans can't believe they got money for him and his salary off their books.
The only positive is that he is incredibly similar to mitro for style of play and did look like he was at least holding the ball up well last season. Apart from that Vinicius is better and actually scores. Was also on £100k a week at Wolves...we better not have agreed any more than £30 or £40k a week.
Praying just a stop gap/back up whilst we sort the Mitro situation out. Bet that will go on for weeks whilst we wait for them to up their offer. Once in £30 million on Beto or someone similar please as surely this isn't the answer. Nightmares.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 23, 2023, 02:39:38 PMI guess as things stand this does further weaken a potential rival so not there is that.
Not sure about that...a side that couldn't score to save their lives were desperate to get rid of him. Why the deal has happened so quick I'd imagine. They'll be off to buy someone better (just like we should be doing).
Underwhelming. His career is on a downward trajectory since the skull fracture.
Maybe, or maybe not we have no idea how things will end up. But I thought that Wolves are skint and so getting rid of his wage is important but they may not have much in the bank to replace him with.
Raul Jimenez can't be Mitrovic's replacement. We must be bringing in another forward. I don't really understand this move.
Don't get me wrong I like him, but not as a replacement for Mitrovic.
Quote from: LC on July 23, 2023, 02:52:52 PMRaul Jimenez can't be Mitrovic's replacement. We must be bringing in another forward. I don't really understand this move.
Don't get me wrong I like him, but not as a replacement for Mitrovic.
Agreed, and at a mere £5.5 mil, he probably wont be THE replacement.
I think this goes to show MS is going nowhere, thank god. Also believe MS could re ignite Jimenez hunger for goals albeit from the bench. COYW.
It has been rumoured that both Muniz and Vinicius were for sale so on that basis, if they were to go, we would need a replacement. It feels like Mitro's departure is imminent so I'm hoping that Jiminez won't be the only forward signing.
Quote from: Deuce on July 23, 2023, 03:03:27 PMQuote from: LC on July 23, 2023, 02:52:52 PMRaul Jimenez can't be Mitrovic's replacement. We must be bringing in another forward. I don't really understand this move.
Don't get me wrong I like him, but not as a replacement for Mitrovic.
Agreed, and at a mere £5.5 mil, he probably wont be THE replacement.
Yes, he can't be. He can play in the number 10 role as well so maybe he's competition for Andreas
Quote from: Whitestone on July 23, 2023, 03:30:24 PMIt has been rumoured that both Muniz and Vinicius were for sale so on that basis, if they were to go, we would need a replacement. It feels like Mitro's departure is imminent so I'm hoping that Jiminez won't be the only forward signing.
I would find it hard to believe that both Vinicius and Muniz were for sale, especially now it looks like Mitro is off. Not sure Stansfield and Jiminez will cut it 🙃
Feels like a short term straight replacement for Mitrovic, while we transition to a sl8ghtly different style. I've no problem with this signing if we pair it with a younger, pacier striker.
Quote from: The Cravenette on July 23, 2023, 03:38:41 PMQuote from: Whitestone on July 23, 2023, 03:30:24 PMIt has been rumoured that both Muniz and Vinicius were for sale so on that basis, if they were to go, we would need a replacement. It feels like Mitro's departure is imminent so I'm hoping that Jiminez won't be the only forward signing.
I would find it hard to believe that both Vinicius and Muniz were for sale, especially now it looks like Mitro is off. Not sure Stansfield and Jiminez will cut it 🙃
I admire your confidence in Vinicius and Muniz. Before all this Mitro nonsense there was talk of both being moved on. Stansfield will likely go on loan to a Championship club.
I see great potential in this
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 23, 2023, 02:36:51 PMI am generally a glass half full kind of guy, but certainly struggling to get there on this one. He was Wolves highest earner so his wages can't be cheap. The fee seems low, but if it is a 2 year deal, then not so much when you figure in salary and he is 32 y/o on the last year of his deal.
My best attempt at a silver lining would be he replaces Muniz as the 3rd striker eventually and allows the club time to replace Mitro in the window rather than being forced to panic buy.
That being said, I would be fearful if he is seen as Mitro's replacement.
if Marco can get him back to form and his true potential pre injury it would be a fantastic signing, boy has to prove himself and wolves had gone toxic for him
For goodness sake, give the bloke a chance. If this is true, let's see him play before laying into him.
Just watch how he played against us recently. Set up the assist for their goal. Throughout the game his movement was brilliant. First touch, such strength against the likes of Robinson, Palhinha, Ream, and Diop. Back to goal, deep in his own defensive third, sets up a pass for Wolves to break.
He's joining a group that had something to prove last year and they'll do the same this year. He's going to fit in just fine - and will make our forwards even better.
Quote from: Peabody on July 23, 2023, 04:01:36 PMFor goodness sake, give the bloke a chance. If this is true, let's see him play before laying into him.
He's played in the Prem for years and he's 32 years old. We've seen him play plenty of times.
I cant imagine that Marco said he would stay and our main forward target and signing is Jimenez .I thould he will be a cheap back up option while we are working away on another target
Quote from: Peabody on July 23, 2023, 04:01:36 PMFor goodness sake, give the bloke a chance. If this is true, let's see him play before laying into him.
Totally agree unfortunately some on hear don't understand how transfers happen they think you wave a magic wand and hey presto we sign Harry Kane
A lot of people complained about Willian last season before he kicked a ball for us....
Quote from: Sammyffc on July 23, 2023, 02:25:11 PMReports Fulham have agreed a deal with Wolves for Raul Jimenez for 5m, apparently a done deal. Being reported by many journos now in the midlands.
Absolutely reeks of a silva signing so we can't criticise as he is allowed what he wants.
I don't get all this "Silva" signing stuff, it is a 3 tick system that Silva is part of, he would recommend a player just like all managers do, and it goes from there. For me it's a signing by FFC.
A player who nearly died when he was knocked out on a football pitch.A player with experience, cunning and a football brain. A player who has flicks, back heals and a bit of entertainment about him. Yeah well if it's true. Him and William in the same team. That sounds truly awful.
He has scored the odd penalty though and his conversion rate can't be worse than Mitro's! Good back up - hopefully for Mitro or, if not, someone equally as effective.
Quote from: Peabody on July 23, 2023, 04:01:36 PMFor goodness sake, give the bloke a chance. If this is true, let's see him play before laying into him.
It depends, he's had injuries and wasn't effective last year and hasn't been for the last couple of seasons. He's not a Mitrovic replacement, it's not about giving him a chance, he just isn't.
If we are buying him as a squad player who can challenge for a starting slot then I'm all for it, I think he's a good player and I think Marco Silva can get him going again, he can also play in the number 10 position which gives us more options.
Nothing on the OFFAL.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 23, 2023, 02:39:38 PMI guess as things stand this does further weaken a potential rival so not there is that.
I think that's rather clutching at straws.
Quote from: filham on July 23, 2023, 04:56:39 PMNothing on the OFFAL.
and there won't be until its official!
Quote from: filham on July 23, 2023, 04:56:39 PMNothing on the OFFAL.
Three stuffed mammal stories, though.
Personally quite like this one, time for a bit of Marco's magic.
Quote from: perry geyton on July 23, 2023, 04:01:32 PMQuote from: WolverineFFC on July 23, 2023, 02:36:51 PMI am generally a glass half full kind of guy, but certainly struggling to get there on this one. He was Wolves highest earner so his wages can't be cheap. The fee seems low, but if it is a 2 year deal, then not so much when you figure in salary and he is 32 y/o on the last year of his deal.
My best attempt at a silver lining would be he replaces Muniz as the 3rd striker eventually and allows the club time to replace Mitro in the window rather than being forced to panic buy.
That being said, I would be fearful if he is seen as Mitro's replacement.
if Marco can get him back to form and his true potential pre injury it would be a fantastic signing, boy has to prove himself and wolves had gone toxic for him
I have a ton of faith in Marco. From watching Jimenez with club and country for the past few years, I am not sure what his form is though. He seems to have lost his finishing skills which is the concern for me.
A large part of my opinion on the deal will me with the details. Contract and fee. If it is a low wage, lower fee than reported with a bunch of add ons then I am on board with it as a flier.
Quote from: WolverineFFC on July 23, 2023, 05:26:38 PMQuote from: perry geyton on July 23, 2023, 04:01:32 PMQuote from: WolverineFFC on July 23, 2023, 02:36:51 PMI am generally a glass half full kind of guy, but certainly struggling to get there on this one. He was Wolves highest earner so his wages can't be cheap. The fee seems low, but if it is a 2 year deal, then not so much when you figure in salary and he is 32 y/o on the last year of his deal.
My best attempt at a silver lining would be he replaces Muniz as the 3rd striker eventually and allows the club time to replace Mitro in the window rather than being forced to panic buy.
That being said, I would be fearful if he is seen as Mitro's replacement.
if Marco can get him back to form and his true potential pre injury it would be a fantastic signing, boy has to prove himself and wolves had gone toxic for him
I have a ton of faith in Marco. From watching Jimenez with club and country for the past few years, I am not sure what his form is though. He seems to have lost his finishing skills which is the concern for me.
A large part of my opinion on the deal will me with the details. Contract and fee. If it is a low wage, lower fee than reported with a bunch of add ons then I am on board with it as a flier.
Well if no one else is going to say it.....welcome to Craven Cottage Raul.
Quote from: Twig on July 23, 2023, 05:03:15 PMQuote from: Somerset Fulham on July 23, 2023, 02:39:38 PMI guess as things stand this does further weaken a potential rival so not there is that.
I think that's rather clutching at straws.
I think that is what we are all doing at the moment. The outlook is absolutely dismal at present, even for me.
For 5.5m I can't complain. He clearly will not be the Mitro replacement for that fee.
I see this as a flier on a player with possible upside, but if he never makes an impact I won't be too mad. If the fee was anymore than 7m I would have had issue with a risk like this.
A new club might do him some good, and MS seems to know how to get something out of players that other clubs don't seem able to.
This still gives us plenty of cash to work with for a replacement for Mitro if we get around 45m for him.
If/when Mitro leaves, we wil bring in a 1st choice striker and Jimenez will be back-up along with Vinicius (Muniz to go on loan).
Don't see any risk here really - best to make a signing like this asap so he can play in a couple of friendlies and Marco can see how well he fits in.
Despite his injury, from what I have seen of him, he still puts himself about and is a handful
I like it....prem experience & cheap.... if he can stay injury free can't complain
To be fair to Jiminez
Wolves fans all very positive about him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3phBmEyf7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3phBmEyf7k
Surely this means that either Muniz or Vinisius must be on the way out unless we intend to play 4-4-2.
I see him as a injury risk and more likely to be a squad player, but given his capability and ability in the PL, for five Mill if he does get better it definitely strengthens our squad.
When betting on horses you look at class, form and fitness with class being the standout factor. You can't be better than your class, but you can be worse than it. He has more class than most players playing for mid-division clubs and that's a massive plus. We're getting him cheap because his form and fitness are poor. Overall, at the price , he seems a gamble well worth taking.
Fairly smart signing if we are getting a Mitro replacement from abroad (Beto etc), he knows the PL very well and can step in more during a transition period.
Muniz will be the one leaving I would think. I also expect another forward to come in as well. But I can say no more.
When mitro goes we have cover in short term.
if true i think this signing is a very good gamble.
the player was brilliant until the injury...could do a verty good job for us but if it dosen't work out, not the end of the world.
Not the signing I would have wanted but if it's just a stop gap then that's fine. Hopefully this doesn't mean Vini is on his way out as I think that would be a bad move. He knows how to score goals in this team.
Quote from: Pluto on July 24, 2023, 12:20:58 AMNot the signing I would have wanted but if it's just a stop gap then that's fine. Hopefully this doesn't mean Vini is on his way out as I think that would be a bad move. He knows how to score goals in this team.
More likely muniz. Vini has been doing well recently.
He had a really bad injury. If Marco can get him back anywhere near where he was before the injury this will be a great signing
Happy about this. Always liked Jimenez.
Worth the gamble IMO.
I've mentioned him half a year ago as a player I'd like us to bring.
Happy about this signing. A very good striker if he can stay healthy.
Think vini will feel he has more chance of starting now especially if he can keep the scoring up.
The key question is whether we are going to say RJ is enough, or look for that marquee striker signing. We have struggled to recruit successor strikers for years now. When we lost Saha, when we lost McBride, when we lost McCormack (and Dembele).
Quote from: bencher on July 24, 2023, 08:03:49 AMThe key question is whether we are going to say RJ is enough, or look for that marquee striker signing. We have struggled to recruit successor strikers for years now. When we lost Saha, when we lost McBride, when we lost McCormack (and Dembele).
Think the marquee signing will wait until Mitro is out the door. Marco wants to have 3 strikers, Vini and Jimenez being 2.
Muniz needs a proper loan out where he gets regular game time , if we do sell him it would be next year.
Jimenez just replaces Muniz before he goes out on loan . If Mitro does go and isn't replaced , then its Vinicius up front and Jimenez off the bench with 25 or 30mins to go
I think he's a good signing to come off the bench and as cover.
I envisage Mitrovic, Muniz and Vinicius all leaving and hopefully we get a top rated striker in as first choice plus with Jiminez we'd have the option of playing with a credible front 2 in certain games
Quote from: filham on July 23, 2023, 06:38:18 PMSurely this means that either Muniz or Vinisius must be on the way out unless we intend to play 4-4-2.
Or we're giving ourselves more options up front, rather than scraping by with 2 strikers?
Quote from: roberto w6 on July 24, 2023, 10:25:38 AMI think he's a good signing to come off the bench and as cover.
I envisage Mitrovic, Muniz and Vinicius all leaving and hopefully we get a top rated striker in as first choice plus with Jiminez we'd have the option of playing with a credible front 2 in certain games
I don't see Vinny leaving, why would he?
Muniz, Vinicius, Stansfield, Jiminez. Hard to see us getting the goals we need if these are our strikers for the season.
Quote from: filham on July 24, 2023, 12:37:29 PMMuniz, Vinicius, Stansfield, Jiminez. Hard to see us getting the goals we need if these are our strikers for the season.
Quite a few other EPL clubs in the same position if you look at things objectively. Take Wolves for example. Poor at scoring last season but no obvious additions to improve matters. Possibly / probably to Jimenez admittedly, but he was a consistent goal scorer in the previous two seasons before his injury at Arsenal.
Brentford- no Toney before 2024!
The newly promoted clubs - any with a proven goal scorer?
Even Willian & BDR have a better individual scoring record than most teams. We only need one of Jiminez or Vinicius to 'click'
In the words of the movie- we are not alone!
Quote from: filham on July 24, 2023, 12:37:29 PMMuniz, Vinicius, Stansfield, Jiminez. Hard to see us getting the goals we need if these are our strikers for the season.
Well Mr F, you just never know.
Think if given a chance vini will score double figures.
There is no way we're (only) rolling with Jiminez and Vinicius as our strikers if we sell Mitro for huge money.
https://twitter.com/Wolfpackwwfc/status/1683506360565092352?s=20
Stansfield is not really a striker these days, despite scoring hatfuls at youth level. And Jiminez could well play the TC/Pereira role.
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on July 23, 2023, 04:08:05 PMI cant imagine that Marco said he would stay and our main forward target and signing is Jimenez .I thould he will be a cheap back up option while we are working away on another target
Me personally I'd rather take a chance on a 5 mill signing on a player who's already proved himself but lacking on psychological confidence over a 50 million Prima Donna
Example - Berbatov
Quote from: Palhinha Colada on July 24, 2023, 04:12:32 PMThere is no way we're (only) rolling with Jiminez and Vinicius as our strikers if we sell Mitro for huge money.
Why not ?
In a lot of cases we played better without Mitrovic on the pitch
Jiminez has bags of potential and Vinny seems to be improving over time
Marco said yesterday Jimenez is not the Mitro replacement
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 23, 2023, 05:36:48 PMQuote from: Twig on July 23, 2023, 05:03:15 PMQuote from: Somerset Fulham on July 23, 2023, 02:39:38 PMI guess as things stand this does further weaken a potential rival so not there is that.
I think that's rather clutching at straws.
I think that is what we are all doing at the moment. The outlook is absolutely dismal at present, even for me.
Speak for yourself I'm feeling very positive at the thought of Mitrovic being gone...
A few signings and we are golden
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on July 24, 2023, 06:57:53 PMMarco said yesterday Jimenez is not the Mitro replacement
He did? Where I missed that
As I recall, William was coming off a rather unproductive time playing in Brazil after leaving the Prem and no one seemed to want him. Marco saw something in him and what a pleasant surprise he was. Perhaps Marco sees something that others don't. TRUST in MARCO!
Quote from: filham on July 24, 2023, 12:37:29 PMMuniz, Vinicius, Stansfield, Jiminez. Hard to see us getting the goals we need if these are our strikers for the season.
Muniz more than likely off, we will almost certainly get another striker too
Well looking brighter now we all are use to seeing no more of mitro , helps with FFP should allow us to play different formations.all we needs is new additions on the offal.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 23, 2023, 07:55:35 PMMuniz will be the one leaving I would think. I also expect another forward to come in as well. But I can say no more.
I hope not. I've got a funny feeling this kid is going to be very good indeed in a year or two
Jimenez medical today
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F10Z0FUXsAEbsLq?format=jpg&name=small)
Fully expect under Marco to be revitalised and discover his instinct in front of goal.
Quote from: perry geyton on July 24, 2023, 06:57:00 PMQuote from: Palhinha Colada on July 24, 2023, 04:12:32 PMThere is no way we're (only) rolling with Jiminez and Vinicius as our strikers if we sell Mitro for huge money.
Why not ?
In a lot of cases we played better without Mitrovic on the pitch
Jiminez has bags of potential and Vinny seems to be improving over time
It's a huge risk if we do that. I highly doubt Jiminez is a Mitrovic replacement. We need to go after a top talent if a Mitrovic leaves
Quote from: LC on July 24, 2023, 09:48:03 PMQuote from: perry geyton on July 24, 2023, 06:57:00 PMQuote from: Palhinha Colada on July 24, 2023, 04:12:32 PMThere is no way we're (only) rolling with Jiminez and Vinicius as our strikers if we sell Mitro for huge money.
Why not ?
In a lot of cases we played better without Mitrovic on the pitch
Jiminez has bags of potential and Vinny seems to be improving over time
It's a huge risk if we do that. I highly doubt Jiminez is a Mitrovic replacement. We need to go after a top talent if a Mitrovic leaves
I can see how they could be a like for like, but Jiminez is an injury risk player. We also need to find attacking players to cover or upgrade on the others like Solomon showed the potential to be. It makes a huge difference to have that technical touch up front when attacking.
I still think we need quite a few top signings to add to the squad.
Can't believe there's still no signings through the door on the offal.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 25, 2023, 01:03:44 PMCan't believe there's still no signings through the door on the offal.
I get the feeling Jimenez is dependant on Mitro leaving, otherwise we won't need him.
Quote from: hovewhite on July 25, 2023, 01:03:44 PMCan't believe there's still no signings through the door on the offal.
Technically Willian is classed as a signing - not exciting as he was with us last season and feels like he never left.
We also secured Anthonee Robinson to a new deal. but agreed, very odd to not have anyone through the door.
That said, if rumours are to be believed we could see three come along at once, like London buses in Bassey, Jiminez and perhaps Salisu.
We're in desperate need for new signings though, especially in CM, defence and up front.
Even if Al-hilal pull out id still think Mitrovic is gone. These refusal to play, player want out situations never seem to end well
Quote from: rusty shackleford on July 25, 2023, 01:12:27 PMEven if Al-hilal pull out id still think Mitrovic is gone. These refusal to play, player want out situations never seem to end well
Agreed !! Mitro is all but dead to me now 😢
The only way Mitrovic stands a charge of forgiveness is to quite literally beg for it, grovel, apologise publicly and commit to being a better man moving forward.
Mitrovic scores vs Everton and he will be forgiven. Look at what happened with Kane last year.
Kane didn't go on strike though, did he?
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2023, 02:32:24 PMKane didn't go on strike though, did he?
There were rumours that he had skipped training however.
Jimenez has completed his Fulham medical per Peter Rutzler.
I watched a compilation of his goals for Wolves, and there is a lot to like if he can get close to those levels again. Reliable penalties, dangerous in the air and generally in the box, turn of pace, close control.
Quote from: bencher on July 25, 2023, 04:13:40 PMI watched a compilation of his goals for Wolves, and there is a lot to like if he can get close to those levels again. Reliable penalties, dangerous in the air and generally in the box, turn of pace, close control.
Yep Marco will work wonders on him
And for 5 million dollars
It's a win win
Quote from: LC on July 24, 2023, 09:48:03 PMQuote from: perry geyton on July 24, 2023, 06:57:00 PMQuote from: Palhinha Colada on July 24, 2023, 04:12:32 PMThere is no way we're (only) rolling with Jiminez and Vinicius as our strikers if we sell Mitro for huge money.
Why not ?
In a lot of cases we played better without Mitrovic on the pitch
Jiminez has bags of potential and Vinny seems to be improving over time
It's a huge risk if we do that. I highly doubt Jiminez is a Mitrovic replacement. We need to go after a top talent if a Mitrovic leaves
Jiminez was a top talent pre his head injury !!!? I'd argue pre injury he was a better striker then Mitrovic minus the bad attitude
He has the skills he's already proven himself, his problem is mental and a new environment and a good coach could be exactly what the doctor ordered
Quote from: perry geyton on July 25, 2023, 04:30:34 PMQuote from: LC on July 24, 2023, 09:48:03 PMQuote from: perry geyton on July 24, 2023, 06:57:00 PMQuote from: Palhinha Colada on July 24, 2023, 04:12:32 PMThere is no way we're (only) rolling with Jiminez and Vinicius as our strikers if we sell Mitro for huge money.
Why not ?
In a lot of cases we played better without Mitrovic on the pitch
Jiminez has bags of potential and Vinny seems to be improving over time
It's a huge risk if we do that. I highly doubt Jiminez is a Mitrovic replacement. We need to go after a top talent if a Mitrovic leaves
Jiminez was a top talent pre his head injury !!!? I'd argue pre injury he was a better striker then Mitrovic minus the bad attitude
He has the skills he's already proven himself, his problem is mental and a new environment and a good coach could be exactly what the doctor ordered
Put it this way, only one, from Jimenez, and Mitrovic, were likened to be a replacement for Harry Kane. One of the worlds best strikers. Not to say he's better at this point in time, but as long as his injury hasn't been a chronic determining factor to his ability and form, this could be a really, really shrewd purchase.
It could also be complete guff :slap: I look forward to finding out.
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 25, 2023, 04:35:20 PMQuote from: perry geyton on July 25, 2023, 04:30:34 PMQuote from: LC on July 24, 2023, 09:48:03 PMQuote from: perry geyton on July 24, 2023, 06:57:00 PMQuote from: Palhinha Colada on July 24, 2023, 04:12:32 PMThere is no way we're (only) rolling with Jiminez and Vinicius as our strikers if we sell Mitro for huge money.
Why not ?
In a lot of cases we played better without Mitrovic on the pitch
Jiminez has bags of potential and Vinny seems to be improving over time
It's a huge risk if we do that. I highly doubt Jiminez is a Mitrovic replacement. We need to go after a top talent if a Mitrovic leaves
Jiminez was a top talent pre his head injury !!!? I'd argue pre injury he was a better striker then Mitrovic minus the bad attitude
He has the skills he's already proven himself, his problem is mental and a new environment and a good coach could be exactly what the doctor ordered
Put it this way, only one, from Jimenez, and Mitrovic, were likened to be a replacement for Harry Kane. One of the worlds best strikers. Not to say he's better at this point in time, but as long as his injury hasn't been a chronic determining factor to his ability and form, this could be a really, really shrewd purchase.
It could also be complete guff :slap: I look forward to finding out.
Me too it's a great bet with fantastic odds
Jimenez coming in as a back up striker surely means Vini/Muniz are leaving? Would be harsh on vini if so, think he did what he can when played and gave 100%.
Quote from: Chutney on July 25, 2023, 05:01:27 PMJimenez coming in as a back up striker surely means Vini/Muniz are leaving? Would be harsh on vini if so, think he did what he can when played and gave 100%.
Been a fair few rumours about Muniz moving back to Brazil. So I expect he'd be the one to go.
Quote from: Chutney on July 25, 2023, 05:01:27 PMJimenez coming in as a back up striker surely means Vini/Muniz are leaving? Would be harsh on vini if so, think he did what he can when played and gave 100%.
Can't see Carlos going anywhere. He's proven he can step up when needed. Can only see Muniz going out on loan again. Hopefully he can find a decent championship club. Would hate to see him go to league one on the back of a poor Boro loan spell.
Jiminez is 32 and an injury risk. Strange signing. However when he bangs in a hatrick v Brentford he'll be a new legend.
Can he head a ball with his headgear or is it not safe?
Quote from: Blawarmy on July 25, 2023, 05:05:18 PMJiminez is 32 and an injury risk. Strange signing. However when he bangs in a hatrick v Brentford he'll be a new legend fan favourite.
He almost scored a header against us, and before that, he headed the ball down to set up the assist for Wolves opener.
Not sure why everyone thinks he's so fragile. He's not an injury risk at all. Just actually go watch him play from last season. I think we're getting a steal.
Love the idea that since that awful accident. He has come back like Stephen Hawking and needs constant bed rest. Personally I am hoping the deal goes through and he can return to his best form.
I wonder if Silva is thinking that Jiminez might be competing with Pereira as our attacking midfielder?
Certainly has the skills, and physically him and Palhinha make a pretty imposing midfield barrier out of possession?
Quote from: copthornemike on July 25, 2023, 09:05:12 PMI wonder if Silva is thinking that Jiminez might be competing with Pereira as our attacking midfielder?
Certainly has the skills, and physically him and Palhinha make a pretty imposing midfield barrier out of possession?
No, he really was solid as a striker for Wolves. Does everything Mitro does, but is more agile, and has more pace, not to mention can take players 1on1. Very quick with his passing to keep momentum and looks to attack space. He scored 3 goals in the Carabao Cup last season, not great, but a good PK, and poacher's finish in the others. He runs off the ball better than Vini ever could, as close to what Javier Hernandez used to do for Man United.
Club just tweeted a Mexico flag emoji.
Quote from: MikeTheCubed on July 25, 2023, 10:22:14 PMClub just tweeted a Mexico flag emoji.
Perhaps they had Fajtas for tea
Club tweeting a video of him in a Fulham shirt in the ground smiling like a Cheshire Cat.
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