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here we go lads ::scarf::
Everton (A) - 12 August original date
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COYW!
COME ON!!! ::scarf::
COYW
Ooof Ream...
Great ball by Robinson there, someone should have been on the 6 yard box.
Wonderful save by Leno, good play by us, then good play by them on the counter.
Leno!!
Ream has not started well.
Oh Ream
Ream shouldn't be playing ahead of Bassey
Quote from: Caedal on August 12, 2023, 03:08:17 PMReam shouldn't be playing ahead of Bassey
So far not a good decision.
Settling down now
still feels a bit like a pre-season match. little mistakes from everyone, lapses of concentration.
TC has really slowed down a couple of very good attacking chances.
TC is too old, slow and kills play all too often. Shane, great servant but shouldn't anywhere near starting 11
Raul gives us a different dynamic up front. Good touches and fast. Looks like a good bit of business
that overhit pass by TC, though it went out - is a welcome forward move
TC is so far behind Andreas it hurts, and yet last season people were begging him to start. bewildering
I don't think this is the game for Cairney. Need quick players who can run at their centre backs like James did last season.
Quote from: akf on August 12, 2023, 03:27:46 PMthat overhit pass by TC, though it went out - is a welcome forward move
Final ball is a bit off at the moment - but we are the better team.
Main concern is Ream and TC clearly lack a bit of match sharpness and Tete being caught upfield 2 or 3 times
LENO!! great save!
Leno again!
1 down ?
Leno saving us again after another great attacking chance breaks down.
no
It hits Tarkowski's arm anyway.
getting way too sloppy
we look a bit undercooked don't we, like a Scott Parker side.
Missing AP massively, Wilson with a criminal 5 yard pass attempt for Cairney earlier on summed it up
would nice to register a shot on goal
We have looked poor
There's not enough pace in the team
Leno just gets better and better
Anyone else so glad we never signed Maupey
Thank god for Leno
What a keeper
good thing Leno is here
Our passing is atrocious - we're going to lose this.
Quote from: Caedal on August 12, 2023, 03:41:53 PMThere's not enough pace in the team
Our defence is so wide open
And we're not getting passed the press at all
Lukic been poor in the middle we miss Palhinha badly
Jeez we are riding some luck today
We look rubbish. No threat going forwards, and giving up loads of chances at the back.
the way the tide has turned, would like the halftime whistle to blow. how many minutes of added time with the new rules? 15?
Look very disjointed.
Jimenez offering very little upfront. A few good passes across the six yard box early on by Robinson and no one attacked them.
Ream guilty of the odd misplaced pass/being caught of position early on too nearly gifting a goal.
The only player on the ball so far seems to be Leno who has made a handful of good saves to keep them out.
Quote from: Nero on August 12, 2023, 03:42:41 PMAnyone else so glad we never signed Maupey
Dodged that bullet
Thank goodness Maupay is not a goal scorer.
We've been battered in midfield the last 10 minutes, have kept losing the ball in really dangerous areas - Lukic and Wilson both in the last minute leading straight to chances.
Mitro and Periera to come on and change the game unlocking our attack
Quote from: akf on August 12, 2023, 03:44:24 PMthe way the tide has turned, would like the halftime whistle to blow. how many minutes of added time with the new rules? 15?
At least 30
Started decent look pretty bleak now
it is like we are trying not to play the forward pass in the final 1/3.
Cannot pass to save our lives
Quote from: Milo on August 12, 2023, 03:44:35 PMLook very disjointed.
Jimenez offering very little upfront. A few good passes across the six yard box early on by Robinson and no one attacked them.
Ream guilty of the odd misplaced pass/being caught of position early on too nearly gifting a goal.
The only player on the ball so far seems to be Leno who has made a handful of good saves to keep them out.
Yep. He's isolated, but he's neither offering himself to hold the ball up for players to play off, not making runs into channels. Very nothing performance so far.
Ream has been awful today, can we please sub him off at half time?
Silva needs to sort this mess out
Quote from: jayffc on August 12, 2023, 03:45:29 PMMitro and Periera to come on and change the game unlocking our attack
Nice to have a potent bench!
Quote from: demeant0r on August 12, 2023, 03:47:49 PMReam has been awful today, can we please sub him off at half time?
he didnt start well but came into the game over time - i wouldn't single him out.
Without Palhina and Mitrovic we look like relegation candidates.
(Okay, slight over reaction for the first game but it has been a pretty bad start!)
Incredibly poor going forwards
Way too slow, we don't really know how to get Jiminez involved yet it seems.
Their press is pinning us every time
Andreas in at half time for me l, we need a quicker pivot at CAM than Cairney here
Quote from: jayffc on August 12, 2023, 03:45:29 PMMitro and Periera to come on and change the game unlocking our attack
I have some extra keys laying around here...
Leno is my man of the half by a big margin
Quote from: demeant0r on August 12, 2023, 03:47:49 PMReam has been awful today, can we please sub him off at half time?
Very rusty but not surprising at his age coming back from a major arm injury where he hasn't been training for quite a while
Bassey likely will come in though as the game moves on and he tires... and hopefully this helps us break through their press a little
Quote from: MisfitKid on August 12, 2023, 03:50:26 PMQuote from: jayffc on August 12, 2023, 03:45:29 PMMitro and Periera to come on and change the game unlocking our attack
I have some extra keys laying around here...
Send them to Goodison via private jet
That terrible slow playing out of defence is going to cost us.
Absolutely dreadful half. Trying to find a positive. About all I can muster is Leno is amazing and we're somehow not losing. Says it all.
Andreas and Mitro quick please. Possibly even Bassey for Ream early as Tims had a bit or a mare. Please be better second half lads!
Quote from: ron on August 12, 2023, 03:53:12 PMThat terrible slow playing out of defence is going to cost us.
Most definitely
Ream was atrocious in the opening 5-10 minutes and then settled down a bit but still made mistakes even after it, Bassey should have started. Front four apart from Willian looked really poor. Reed and Lukic struggled to control Everton's midfielders, who are more physical than the two of them, and that's a big problem as well.
Andreas and Mitro needed at half-time imo.
Without Palhinha we're not very good. And neither is Tim Ream. Lukic is so ordinary.
Need to turn things around 2nd half, creating little up front and we are missing Palhinha badly.
Saw there was more Mitro news today-- they need to put a line through this, either he's here and committed or he's off and we plan for life without him, i feel like the disruption isnt helping the team at all.
Poor. Tedious, slow and laboured both on and off the ball. Leno has been superb.
Lots of the ball but did nothing with it. Leno is god, def backing into him for the disallowed goal.
Our passing is great until the final third and then we can't string two together. Ream looks rusty, Bassey should have started. At least it's still 0-0.
First match of the season, disjointed play by both sides and the boo birds start bashing the lads inside of TWO minutes.
Quote from: akf on August 12, 2023, 03:49:19 PMQuote from: demeant0r on August 12, 2023, 03:47:49 PMReam has been awful today, can we please sub him off at half time?
he didnt start well but came into the game over time - i wouldn't single him out.
I would, he deserves to be singled out.
I don't understand the thought process in picking Cairney and Ream. They're tooo slow, whether it's an age or fitness issue. Bassey has been playing as first choice since he signed, why isn't he playing.
Reed and Lukic in midfield just isn't dynamic enough, neither are offering anything.
Willian and Wilson have zero pace.
We're too easy to play against, which is a real worry. Everton should be out of sight.
Ream been the worst player on the pitch, hardly his fault with his pre-season. Would love to see Mitro and AP on in the 2nd half
Quote from: akf on August 12, 2023, 03:49:19 PMQuote from: demeant0r on August 12, 2023, 03:47:49 PMReam has been awful today, can we please sub him off at half time?
he didnt start well but came into the game over time - i wouldn't single him out.
Disagree. He looks way off the pace at the moment. Struggling to complete passes, especially out to AR. Out of position or slow to react on several Everton counters. Maybe Bassey is unfit, but Marco screwed this selection up. Ream doesn't look ready for the season.
Leno the only player who has earned a pass mark.
That was a woeful first half.
We need reinforcements
Joao can't come back soon enough. Looking forward to Mitro in the second half.
70% possession and we've mustered one measly shot
Big half needed. A slow start in the Prem can be deadly.
70% possession, 0 shots on target.
Palhinha's a gigantic loss of course. Need him back sharpish. Some more reinforcements wouldn't go amiss either.
BDR comming on for Willian
We badly need a new, dynamic CM, and some pace out wide
Willians been subbed for bobby apparently, no sign of AP
Quote from: akf on August 12, 2023, 03:51:27 PMLeno is my man of the half by a big margin
37 games to go and I can't imagine a more lopsised motm for the rest of the season if this continues for sure.
Bobbi?
Quote from: Caedal on August 12, 2023, 04:02:33 PMWe badly need a new, dynamic CM, and some pace out wide
Adama will help with the pace thing.
Quote from: akf on August 12, 2023, 04:02:27 PMBDR comming on for Willian
Could see that coming. Yellow card and he seems to be carrying a knock the way he was moving around after half way in.
Everyone except Leno looks really poor today. Hard to find cause and effect when everything looks poor.
No real need to single TC and Ream out, simple passes misplaced by everyone all over the pitch. Our right side with Tete, Reed and Wilson looks atrocious, the left side just a little better. The middle is non existent.
All the doom mongers should however remember that it is the first game of the season. All these players, including Ream and TC has shown plenty of times that they are good enough for this division, and neither of those two have ever relied in the slightest on speed. I suggest we tone down the hyperbole a couple of notches.
Just my two cent.
BDR for Willian
Thought Willian was better than Jimenez, Cairney and Wilson. Would have prefered AP or Mitro as well and nit BDR, but hopefully this will change something at least.
I'm tuning into my intermittent dodgy stream with a due sense of trepidation and dread re the second half
Quote from: Coast94 on August 12, 2023, 04:03:17 PMQuote from: Caedal on August 12, 2023, 04:02:33 PMWe badly need a new, dynamic CM, and some pace out wide
Adama will help with the pace thing.
Hopefully he gets some end product to go with the pace. But we do need to be quicker on the ball
i HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO THE ffcTV BROADCAST AND EVEN gENTLEMAN jIM IS SAYING WE ARE POOR AND SO LUCKY NOT TO BE LOSING.
Not sure I should listen to the second half.
Quote from: Rj Fulham on August 12, 2023, 04:02:50 PMWillians been subbed for bobby apparently, no sign of AP
Weird
Injury? Fitness?
Tactical
A shot would do wonders for my ulcer...
Everton pressing very well to their credit
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on August 12, 2023, 03:54:30 PMWithout Palhinha we're not very good. And neither is Tim Ream. Lukic is so ordinary.
Lukic is definitely more than ordinary on the ball, but he isn't quick/strong enough to cover that amount of space on his own.
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 12, 2023, 04:04:37 PMEveryone except Leno looks really poor today. Hard to find cause and effect when everything looks poor.
No real need to single TC and Ream out, simple passes misplaced by everyone all over the pitch. Our right side with Tete, Reed and Wilson looks atrocious, the left side just a little better. The middle is non existent.
All the doom mongers should however remember that it is the first game of the season. All these players, including Ream and TC has shown plenty of times that they are good enough for this division, and neither of those two have ever relied in the slightest on speed. I suggest we tone down the hyperbole a couple of notches.
Just my two cent.
first 5 mins of second half tc looking assured on the ball using it wisely keeping possession and quickly playing teammates in with cute passes.
Quote from: MisfitKid on August 12, 2023, 04:07:43 PMA shot would do wonders for my ulcer...
... one on target would be welcome!
AP & Mitro about to come on
better...
Quote from: itombomb on August 12, 2023, 04:11:05 PMQuote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on August 12, 2023, 03:54:30 PMWithout Palhinha we're not very good. And neither is Tim Ream. Lukic is so ordinary.
Lukic is definitely more than ordinary on the ball, but he isn't quick/strong enough to cover that amount of space on his own.
He's not well suited to covering Paulinha's role. Needs to be playing further forward as he did at Torino
Very unlucky, really good effort from Raul.
oooh - mitro gets the arm band!
come on Mitro
If mitro scores, does he tap the badge??
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 12, 2023, 04:18:28 PMIf mitro scores, does he tap the badge??
Probs headbutts it
fantastic feet to set up the second shot at goal and then subbed. tc must feel a bitt miffed after being like a different player second half. lets hope pereira isnt too rusty and mitro can do what he does. and given that armband.....
Ream has the armband - TC gave it to Mitro, who gave it to Ream.
sub??
Mitro injured
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Classic mitro
Is this a legitimate injury...
crud
If he's going to act like a bellend and this is all faked, I wish him rid, thank you for your time but Fulham are bigger than mitro
Was it his ankle again? Or him playing up?
He's coming back on
Wilson very poor to let Iwobi* have so much space.
Very lucky after a good, but not great, Leno save.
Quote from: demeant0r on August 12, 2023, 04:25:39 PMHe's coming back on
We never know if he is coming or going.
I've no idea how Everton didn't score there
If Everton had a striker this game would be done, living a blessed life right now
Fulham needs to realize there is a match going on
We are riding our luck massively
Quote from: DevonFFC on August 12, 2023, 04:24:31 PMIf he's going to act like a bellend and this is all faked, I wish him rid, thank you for your time but Fulham are bigger than mitro
None of that was faked, you could tell by his reaction as soon as his foot planted on the floor
Quote from: junior white on August 12, 2023, 04:25:29 PMWas it his ankle again? Or him playing up?
He rolled his ankle, probably had a shock of pain, and feared the worst based on his history. Running freely now.
I did say last week if we played like we did against Hoffenheim in the first half we'd get humiliated
Mitro signalling for a sub straight away and then seeming to be fine and playing on is really concerning behaviour.
They're waiting for us....if we don't have a shot on goal soon they'll have to score....
Still no shots on target...
mitro relinquished the armband in the confusion around his injury.
1 up
Great goal
yeaaassss! BDR!
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on August 12, 2023, 04:29:28 PMMitro signalling for a sub straight away and then seeming to be fine and playing on is really concerning behaviour.
He also called off the sub, probably had shocking pain and assumed the worst, then was able to walk it off.
BOBBI!!!
Yeeeees
BDR!
Come on!!!!!
Quote from: akf on August 12, 2023, 04:30:54 PMmitro relinquished the armband in the confusion around his injury.
It was before - Ream had it before the corner was taken.
Take it - totally against the run of play.
COYW let's get a second to kill this off ::scarf::
What a pass by Mitro
Mitro and Andreas with nice passes, great movement and finish from BDR, get in!
Quote from: Sammyffc on August 12, 2023, 04:33:26 PMgreat pass by mitro to wilson, wilson or andreas??? lovely ball to bobby, get in
And then Everton CBs just allowed to throw Mitro to the floor. ::tongue::
Get in
Great play!
Andreas Mitro and BDR all off the bench to make the difference...
Smash and grab so far but away from home well take it!
COYW!!
Three subs linking for the goal
Strange things happen when you have a shot on goal.
Honestly Wilson has been quality today.
bloody stream buffered watched 70 mins off pap and then miss the goal
Dont you know theres 12mins injury time comin at least 🤣
Quote from: itombomb on August 12, 2023, 04:32:34 PMQuote from: akf on August 12, 2023, 04:30:54 PMmitro relinquished the armband in the confusion around his injury.
It was before - Ream had it before the corner was taken.
good spot. i had my tin hat on - thinking he orchestrated the 'injury' to get an oppo to give up the band, then miraculously recover...
Could be 2-0
ohhhh BDR...
How did bobby miss that 😭😭
Robinson has not had a bad day today
Bernd Leno is pure class
Leno motm definitely
Build a god damn statue of Leno
One smart thing Everton have done, is that they're crossing from deeper. They know Tete and Robinson are so good at closing the player down, so they're not trying to get to the byline and cross, they're instead pulling the ball back to a deeper player to hit the cross in.
Mitro gets a shot on target
Ream was very poor there on Doucoure.
I feel like every time we get a contentious pen call they NEVER show a replay
how is that not a hand ball?!?
had that subsequent goal gone in...
That is definitely a penalty.
And it was also a clear handball on the defender on BDR.
Wow that was for sure a handball
That elbow is up imo
Quote from: FFC In Oz on August 12, 2023, 04:49:21 PMI feel like every time we get a contentious pen call they NEVER show a replay
They belatedly showed the replay - definitely a pen
I see the level of referring has not changed
VAR asleep at the wheel.
How was that handball not given on review?!?
Lol how is that NOT a pen did they not see where his arms were
Silvas first yellow lol
One of the worst no calls you will see this year. Arm half out in front of goal and clearly hits the arm. Awful
Lol the Everton attackers are so crap
He'd have had to pick it up and run with it for us to get the pen.
i guess with the time wasting yellows, there is chance that more goalkeepers get accumulated yellows to leading to suspension
3 points
I'll take it after that first half. Leno is MOTM, easy.
That really was a smash and grab. If we play Brentford like we did in the first half today we'll lose.
but how was that not a penalty!?
that said, i am happier feeling like we've been robbed of a penalty rather than the bittersweet feeling a win but a missed penalty for mitro.
Got away with it there, but 3 points on the board after a poor start really. Good team goal though, team a bit rusty but can only improve. COYW
GET IN FULHAM!!!
We had enough to get the job done
Leno the legend
All the subs made a big difference
Bring on the reinforcements this week to add some offensive weapons, bring back Palhinha and well be just fine this year.
Goodison is not an easy place to go ever and against an organised dyche team we've come away with 3 points despite not being full strength
LOVE TO SEE IT!
COYW!!
Whew. What a belter of a game from Leno 👏 👏
Not quite a smash and grab as we were comfortably the better side for about half the game, but the other half of the game we were terrible.
Quote from: demeant0r on August 12, 2023, 04:53:04 PMLol the Everton attackers are so crap
We played really badly in a lot of that game, but they didn't have the quality to capitalise. Unless that kid they've bought is good, they've got a really big problem this year.
It is said that good teams win when they play poorly. I think that applies today. Leno is MOM with honorable mention to Robinson and BDR. The rest not so much.
Leno clearly MOTM, smash and grab away from home, but to play that lackluster, especially first half, and still take away 3 points, I'll take it any day of the week ::scarf::
Is that 3 wins at Goodison on the trot after half a century or more of never winning? Well done lads, dug deep and did the thing. First result really important as it sets the tone for the season.
Better to start shaky and improve over the 90 mins..... but we could have lost it by half time.
That's football though, I take the 3 points and move on.
Leno and Jedi were BEASTS
GET IN!!!!!
How the F we have won that game I don't know (well I do - Leno).
Looked loads better with Andreas and Mitro. We just have to not sell him no matter what.
Absolutely brilliant from Andreas on the goal.
Clear hand ball for our pen. How is that any different to the infamous Man U match? Arm in almost exactly the same position!!! Having said that the Leno one was very fortunate first half. Hiya his arm so can argue it but he didn't really do anything. Perhaps even on that then.
HUGE 3 points after a nightmare summer, a terrible first half and with three tough games to come really takes the pressure off. God I love this team...no matter what we always manage to pull something out the bag when we need it. Get in Fulham
Phew, what a great result, to bring 3 points home fro Everton is better than most of us expected, yes lady luck was with us but it is so good to have 3 points on the board already.
No doubt who was our man of the match, Leno by a country mile.
Not the best performance, but a 3-pointer. We take those.
I can't believe how that elbow towards the end of the game is not a penalty for handball, honest to God.
S+-Tier
Leno
S-Tier
Robinson
A-Tier
Mitro (sub), BDR (sub), Wilson
B-Tier
Reed, Tete, Ruiz, Willian, TC, Andres (sub)
C-Tier
Lukic, Diop
D-Tier
Ream