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Magnificent performance Fulham
COME ON YOU SUPER WHITES ::scarf:: :claping20hands:
I have a sense of overwhelming gratitude to the football gods. Very fortunate to get a point at the Emirates. Well done.
Well that thrashing that a few people predicted and were adamant about didn't happen.
This is what I mean when I say nothing is certain.
Mr Filham I am guessing that you are happy that you were wrong.
A tremendous result ,and with ten men. As good as anything we have ever achieved away to Arsenal.
The sending off is a shame, how long is the ban for a double yellow.
London derby away at Arsenal, thunder storms, goals, man sent off, and could have won it with Traoré at the end- if he went down it would have absolutely been a penalty.
I think we need to sign at least 2 forward players (one wide and one up top).
Bassey looked good, but not sure why he time wasted to get his first yellow, players should know by now
How many minutes was stoppage....thought it was supposed to be 9
Quote from: filham on August 26, 2023, 05:04:46 PMA tremendous result ,and with ten men. As good as anything we have ever achieved away to Arsenal.
The sending off is a shame, how long is the ban for a double yellow.
Should be one game
Quote from: Fightin' Blue Hens on August 26, 2023, 05:01:58 PMI have a sense of overwhelming gratitude to football gods. Very fortunate to get a point at the Emirates. Well done.
Not trying to start a row... but I don't think we were fortunate... I only listened on Radio 5 but I think we defended really well for long periods...
Excellent result.. really showed character..
COYW
Excellent first half, defensive perfection, can't remember a more defensively disciplined performance. Tete was probably our best player in the first half, so shame he was the one that cost us the first goal.
Disgraceful from Arsenal to not only keeo the ball in play but to then score and celebrate like they did while Bassey was lying injured.
My heart would have stopped probably had Adama scored at the end!
On to the next one.
Referee did everything he could to have us lose. Too effing bad :slap:
Quote from: alfie on August 26, 2023, 05:04:42 PMWell that thrashing that a few people predicted and were adamant about didn't happen.
This is what I mean when I say nothing is certain.
Mr Filham I am guessing that you are happy that you were wrong.
I am over the moon and ready to stay on the other side until we meet City, also please bring on the humble pie, I am ready to eat it by the bucket full.
I missed Rodak getting booked - on the bench, what for?😱
Raul did everything but score. Looked great. Has one coming.
Quote from: alfie on August 26, 2023, 05:04:42 PMWell that thrashing that a few people predicted and were adamant about didn't happen.
This is what I mean when I say nothing is certain.
Mr Filham I am guessing that you are happy that you were wrong.
I am over the moon and ready to stay on the other side until we meet City, also please bring on the humble pie, I am ready to eat it by the bucket full.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on August 26, 2023, 05:05:23 PMHow many minutes was stoppage....thought it was supposed to be 9
They played a good ten minutes stoppage time, seems Fergie time has faded into history.
When we went a goal up I had predicted we would lose 4-1 anyway so didn't bother. But needless to say another sending off and another penalty that ignores the foul on Bassey earlier in the move.
I bet VAR and the ref were trying to find a reason to chalk off our equaliser.
Yes I am bitter with the way our beloved game is being made into a lottery. But what a great performance to get a deserved draw. Captain Adama from Battlestar Gallactica could have won it. But again Leno was the hero.
Come on 10 man draw at Arsenal. Tremendously proud and where our season starts to turn.
Quote from: filham on August 26, 2023, 05:07:54 PMQuote from: alfie on August 26, 2023, 05:04:42 PMWell that thrashing that a few people predicted and were adamant about didn't happen.
This is what I mean when I say nothing is certain.
Mr Filham I am guessing that you are happy that you were wrong.
I am over the moon and ready to stay on the other side until we meet City, also please bring on the humble pie, I am ready to eat it by the bucket full.
No need for that sir, it was your opinion that you are entitled to
🥧
I haven't seen any of it, was it definitely a foul on Bassey?
Quote from: filham on August 26, 2023, 05:07:54 PMQuote from: alfie on August 26, 2023, 05:04:42 PMWell that thrashing that a few people predicted and were adamant about didn't happen.
This is what I mean when I say nothing is certain.
Mr Filham I am guessing that you are happy that you were wrong.
I am over the moon and ready to stay on the other side until we meet City, also please bring on the humble pie, I am ready to eat it by the bucket full.
Me too Filham, I was expecting a 4 or 5 nil hiding, but our first goal in the 1st minute proved me wrong. Didn't think we would salvage a point.
Great point, could have been three. Ref's watch stopped as well
Quote from: _Putney_ on August 26, 2023, 05:07:46 PMReferee did everything he could to have us lose. Too effing bad :slap:
Yet another penalty and player sent off... same for Nottingham Forest v United... doesn't do much to help anyone saying the Big Six aren't gifted results.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 26, 2023, 05:05:52 PMQuote from: Fightin' Blue Hens on August 26, 2023, 05:01:58 PMI have a sense of overwhelming gratitude to football gods. Very fortunate to get a point at the Emirates. Well done.
Not trying to start a row... but I don't think we were fortunate... I only listened on Radio 5 but I think we defended really well for long periods...
Excellent result.. really showed character..
COYW
You should listen to Gentleman Jim he puts a really good Fulham bias on his commentary, I am convinced we deserved that point today. We are unbeaten away from home, bet City are shaking in their boots.
If anyone is able to show Traorès late effort would be most welcome...👍
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwafRMvIUU4/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Quote from: Blawarmy on August 26, 2023, 05:20:30 PMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/CwafRMvIUU4/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Illustrates the fake nature of punditry
Justice
So nice to have Joao back. As long as we have him this season, we'll be ok.
Curious to know what people thought of jimenez and traore today?
Palhinha obviously made a big difference to how we played/turned up and the scoreline.
Three games in, a win, loss and draw does feel better, though it seems we were under the cosh heavily today.
Two defenders sent off in two games so early in the season seems particularly heavy handed and off.. anyone have an opinion on this?
How did bassey do besides being sent off?
We're running out of CBs.
Well done team/management and squad for the result. A much needed boost.
Now to see the end of the transfer window off with a strong and positive note.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 26, 2023, 05:19:24 PMIf anyone is able to show Traorès late effort would be most welcome...👍
https://twitter.com/Reinaldodcg9/status/1695465161476223286?t=FFMBX23iUn6Zqq1zN466Iw&s=19
Surprised did not see that coming but a heroic performance,palhinia he's the man.
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on August 26, 2023, 05:15:32 PMQuote from: _Putney_ on August 26, 2023, 05:07:46 PMReferee did everything he could to have us lose. Too effing bad :slap:
Yet another penalty and player sent off... same for Nottingham Forest v United... doesn't do much to help anyone saying the Big Six aren't gifted results.
The penalty was as clear as they come. Tete didn't even try to complain. Basset's second yellow was also crystal clear, albeit completely unnecessary.
Marco interview coming up on Sky channel 409 in a minute, described as interesting, I bet it will be!!
If Adama had gone down at the end - would we have gotten a peno? I'm proud of him and for the game of football that he didn't... but in terms of nicking three points...
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on August 26, 2023, 05:15:32 PMQuote from: _Putney_ on August 26, 2023, 05:07:46 PMReferee did everything he could to have us lose. Too effing bad :slap:
Yet another penalty and player sent off... same for Nottingham Forest v United... doesn't do much to help anyone saying the Big Six aren't gifted results.
Didn't Mike Dean essentially imply it existed and influenced his decisions?
Can't wait to see the Silva interview.
Clear we are missing a potent striker in Mitrovic. However, having Palhina back is a godsend.
I felt sorry for poor old Diop who seemed to be holding it together by himself at the end. I do wonder why Silva never rated him last year as I always think he's pretty solid.
Major issue remains ... the striker. We need a signing or two!
Get in!!!! And F off Arsenal. Horrible team.
That game shows why we shouldn't be anywhere near relegation trouble. The fight in this team is unbelievable. And Joao oh Joao. Just having him in the team means we should be nowhere near it.
RJ was brilliant today and deserved that overhead to go in. That's two games been incredibly close to scoring. Won everything in the air, brilliant defensively and link up play good as well. Just needs a goal. It was shades of the one I will ever speak of again. Hope we sign someone really good but that performance gave me some real confidence.
Shocking from dirty arsenal with our centre half on the deck and for frigging once cheats didn't prosper because of our never ending determination.
Shame re Bassey as thought he was brilliant and looks like a brilliant signing and redemption for Diop who was awesome today..he's shakey on the ball but the guy can defend.
And that run from Adama. He did everything right lifting it and great save to be fair. If that had gone in I don't even know what I would have done. Looked like he got fouled and by not cheating by diving nothing given.
That is every game now where we have picked up a stupid technical yellow for kicking the ball away or time wasting. Simple stuff and got to learn.
Crédit to Marco too. Tactically spot on. Didn't press too high and soaked it up and looked ver dangerous on the break. At least 4 points from 4 games with anti ref Fulham in two of them, away to the two best teams in the league, some random bloke leaving us at the worst time and half a team yet to recruit. Maybe things aren't so bad after all. Love this club.
Arsenal manager being well and truly hung out by some Arsenal fans on line. Although I had no idea they had spent 65 million? Can that be right?
Well deserved point for the Cottagers. Well done lads!
I knew second half game equalizing goal would come on a PK. There was so much pressure and play in the box, it was bound to happen. Too bad it did on a clear Tete mistake. Thought Tete had a good game, but that was a blunder. Thought the PK might come on something controversial, but that was a no doubter.
Thought Robinson had fairly good game, but he did give the ball away on a couple of occasions. Needs to be better focused. But did well v Saka, I thought. And set Traore off on a last minute possible game winner.
Credit to the lads, not giving up even when trailing and a man down. Always giving their all. Thought the point was well deserved, Arsenal have to be glad they didn't lose the game.
Great first half game plan and well played and executed. Hopefully our players learn not to take those dang time wasting yellows! Those can quickly become reds......
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on August 26, 2023, 05:30:45 PMIf Adama had gone down at the end - would we have gotten a peno? I'm proud of him and for the game of football that he didn't... but in terms of nicking three points...
Of course not!!
Quote from: Black and White Town on August 26, 2023, 05:26:09 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on August 26, 2023, 05:19:24 PMIf anyone is able to show Traorès late effort would be most welcome...👍
https://twitter.com/Reinaldodcg9/status/1695465161476223286?t=FFMBX23iUn6Zqq1zN466Iw&s=19
Big chance to have a player on the opposite side for a tap in as Traore had just enough space to chip across the goal face
Well said Marco, you will probably be fined now by the FA and given a 6 match touchline ban!!
Perhaps the club should be looking to sign more centre backs if the refs are going g to send one off in every match?
Quote from: Black and White Town on August 26, 2023, 05:26:09 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on August 26, 2023, 05:19:24 PMIf anyone is able to show Traorès late effort would be most welcome...👍
https://twitter.com/Reinaldodcg9/status/1695465161476223286?t=FFMBX23iUn6Zqq1zN466Iw&s=19
Ahh. OK.. not as promising as I thought. Tight angle, under pressure, effort not fully controlled..
Thought it may have been a 1-on-1 through the middle.
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on August 26, 2023, 05:30:45 PMIf Adama had gone down at the end - would we have gotten a peno? I'm proud of him and for the game of football that he didn't... but in terms of nicking three points...
There's no way on earth we'd have been given it.
Forgot to add, Diop is probably my MOTM. He's one of the main reasons Brentford result happened, but what a way to redempt yourself. Was outstanding throughout, can't recall him putting his foot (or head ::wink:: ) wrong. Colossal performance.
I understand everyone is different and people feel and react to situations in different ways. I dont quite understand however, the mentality of those who say they had expected to lose to Arsenal by 4 or 5 nil.
despite our loss last week to Brentford at home. I believed and said on here this morning, that with the right mental attitude, we could snatch a point today. I also felt that when we were 2-1 and a man down, we could still get an equaliser. I hope all those who were inclined to blame Marco for all our woes last week, will now blame him for our result today.
So 11 v 12 and then 10 v 12 yet we get a point! Great effort by the lads. My optimism for the season is restored.
Bassey's second yellow was purely a professional foul. He had to do it because he was a step behind a faster man who would have been free 1 on 1 with Leno.
We overcame the usual refs when against a top 6 team. Came from behind while a man down and nine minutes of extra time. I think the ref counted all the time Arsenal was showing their bad sportsmanship while Bassey was on the ground.
All in all a classy performance. Is Leno a great keeper or what!!!
Just heading home, no idea why some are whingeing about the refereeing as all the cards were justified under the rules of the modern game. We really struggled to beat their press and to keep any possession but stuck at it heroically.
Thought all our subs were excellent and will give Silva food for thought.
A real battling performance which will do wonders for morale.
Quote from: davew on August 26, 2023, 05:29:53 PMMarco interview coming up on Sky channel 409 in a minute, described as interesting, I bet it will be!!
It was! I fear his use of the word "Joke" will get him another yellow and a fine and might mean he will be in the stands for our next two games. I missed the start of the interview but he was clearly passionate. Did he mention that Arsenal kept the ball in play when Bassey was injured?
That was definitely a game for the neutrals. Too bad we couldn't snatch it at the death but what fight we had. Where was this fight vs Brentford? I think this fight can be attributed a lot to having Palhinha on the field.
Quote from: LittleErn on August 26, 2023, 05:45:47 PMQuote from: davew on August 26, 2023, 05:29:53 PMMarco interview coming up on Sky channel 409 in a minute, described as interesting, I bet it will be!!
It was! I fear his use of the word "Joke" will get him another yellow and a fine and might mean he will be in the stands for our next two games. I missed the start of the interview but he was clearly passionate. Did he mention that Arsenal kept the ball in play when Bassey was injured?
I don't know what all this fuss is about, they were under no obligation to kick it out, it's down to the ref to stop the game if it's not a head injury, would we have kicked it out I wonder.
Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on August 26, 2023, 05:38:19 PMI understand everyone is different and people feel and react to situations in different ways. I dont quite understand however, the mentality of those who say they had expected to lose to Arsenal by 4 or 5 nil.
despite our loss last week to Brentford at home. I believed and said on here this morning, that with the right mental attitude, we could snatch a point today. I also felt that when we were 2-1 and a man down, we could still get an equaliser. I hope all those who were inclined to blame Marco for all our woes last week, will now blame him for our result today.
This is the sort of post that actually is meant to cause to division and I never understand why fans on a day like this want to to try and cause an argument.
You start off with a lie. Nobody blames the manager for all our woes. But some of us rightfully said he was partly to blame last week for poor tactics and subs timing. Most will be happy that despite the constant moaning of our coach we have put in a good performance and the our coach deserves some of that praise.
Now can we please grow up and stop sniping at fans after our first two matches of awful performances who dared made their concern known. Just enjoy today. This result and performance doesn't change my personal attitude towards the team the manager or the club or the inconsistent officials. This result doesn't make Silva some sort of superstar either. A good job by all today doesn't change a bad job by all last week.
ENJOY TODAY.
Quote from: alfie on August 26, 2023, 05:47:48 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 26, 2023, 05:45:47 PMQuote from: davew on August 26, 2023, 05:29:53 PMMarco interview coming up on Sky channel 409 in a minute, described as interesting, I bet it will be!!
It was! I fear his use of the word "Joke" will get him another yellow and a fine and might mean he will be in the stands for our next two games. I missed the start of the interview but he was clearly passionate. Did he mention that Arsenal kept the ball in play when Bassey was injured?
I don't know what all this fuss is about, they were under no obligation to kick it out, it's down to the ref to stop the game if it's not a head injury, would we have kicked it out I wonder.
I take your point Alfie. Just wondered if Marco did. Also wondered if there was a foul on Bassey?
Quote from: alfie on August 26, 2023, 05:47:48 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 26, 2023, 05:45:47 PMQuote from: davew on August 26, 2023, 05:29:53 PMMarco interview coming up on Sky channel 409 in a minute, described as interesting, I bet it will be!!
It was! I fear his use of the word "Joke" will get him another yellow and a fine and might mean he will be in the stands for our next two games. I missed the start of the interview but he was clearly passionate. Did he mention that Arsenal kept the ball in play when Bassey was injured?
I don't know what all this fuss is about, they were under no obligation to kick it out, it's down to the ref to stop the game if it's not a head injury, would we have kicked it out I wonder.
I do get your point, but the referee's mistake was for not signaling a foul on Bassey. What Arsenal did after was, however, very unsportsmanlike and I doubt we would do it. In fact, I can't remember a similar thing happening in a long time.
Quote from: SerbianLad on August 26, 2023, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: alfie on August 26, 2023, 05:47:48 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 26, 2023, 05:45:47 PMQuote from: davew on August 26, 2023, 05:29:53 PMMarco interview coming up on Sky channel 409 in a minute, described as interesting, I bet it will be!!
It was! I fear his use of the word "Joke" will get him another yellow and a fine and might mean he will be in the stands for our next two games. I missed the start of the interview but he was clearly passionate. Did he mention that Arsenal kept the ball in play when Bassey was injured?
I don't know what all this fuss is about, they were under no obligation to kick it out, it's down to the ref to stop the game if it's not a head injury, would we have kicked it out I wonder.
I do get your point, but the referee's mistake was for not signaling a foul on Bassey. What Arsenal did after was, however, very unsportsmanlike and I doubt we would do it. In fact, I can't remember a similar thing happening in a long time.
Why do you doubt we would do it, we are not saints
An excellent interview from Marco, said it with passion, authority and some control.
He was right, the booking for time wasting was inconsistent with other decisions and prejudiced in favour of one team.
How was Jimenez today? He got a few mentions by Darren Bent about how well he was doing despite lack of service etc.
Quote from: alfie on August 26, 2023, 05:55:29 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on August 26, 2023, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: alfie on August 26, 2023, 05:47:48 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 26, 2023, 05:45:47 PMQuote from: davew on August 26, 2023, 05:29:53 PMMarco interview coming up on Sky channel 409 in a minute, described as interesting, I bet it will be!!
It was! I fear his use of the word "Joke" will get him another yellow and a fine and might mean he will be in the stands for our next two games. I missed the start of the interview but he was clearly passionate. Did he mention that Arsenal kept the ball in play when Bassey was injured?
I don't know what all this fuss is about, they were under no obligation to kick it out, it's down to the ref to stop the game if it's not a head injury, would we have kicked it out I wonder.
I do get your point, but the referee's mistake was for not signaling a foul on Bassey. What Arsenal did after was, however, very unsportsmanlike and I doubt we would do it. In fact, I can't remember a similar thing happening in a long time.
Why do you doubt we would do it, we are not saints
If a defender is laying on the floor, in the box, injured, everyone would kick the ball out. It wasn't like they played one pass and scored the goal, they organised a full new attack while he was just laying there. I can't remember any team not putting the ball out of play in a similar situation like that one. It's disgraceful, imo.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 26, 2023, 06:00:39 PMHow was Jimenez today? He got a few mentions by Darren Bent about how well he was doing despite lack of service etc.
JG seemed to think he had a magnificent game - in defence!
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 26, 2023, 06:00:39 PMHow was Jimenez today? He got a few mentions by Darren Bent about how well he was doing despite lack of service etc.
He was good. Battled hard, won tons of headers. Was fouled multiple times but the referee usually did not give it. Had a spectacular bicycle kick effort in the first half.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 26, 2023, 06:00:39 PMHow was Jimenez today? He got a few mentions by Darren Bent about how well he was doing despite lack of service etc.
Thought he had a good game. Much better than the first two, in which I thought he looked slow and totally out of it. Redeemed himself today, though mostly in a defensive role. He almost scored a worldlie, still scratching my head as too how he got that shot off. Terrific skill.
Quote from: YankeeJim on August 26, 2023, 05:39:03 PMSo 11 v 12 and then 10 v 12 yet we get a point! Great effort by the lads. My optimism for the season is restored.
Bassey's second yellow was purely a professional foul. He had to do it because he was a step behind a faster man who would have been free 1 on 1 with Leno.
We overcame the usual refs when against a top 6 team. Came from behind while a man down and nine minutes of extra time. I think the ref counted all the time Arsenal was showing their bad sportsmanship while Bassey was on the ground.
All in all a classy performance. Is Leno a great keeper or what!!!
Respectfully disagree on Bassey's second. He didn't need to take it, as Diop covered and was miles ahead of the Arsenal player. Bassey may not have noticed that though, but in hindsight he could have just let the player run by him.
Bassey for me was definitely fouled and we should've got a free kick before one of their goals. A clear foul for me. Wondering if the VAR refs have played football, because anyone who has would know that is an admittedly sneaky way to bring a player off balance. OK and you get away with it at pub league level and maybe even some of the lower league's, but with the amount of camera angles and the fact VAR exists it isn't really excusable to miss. unless the rules have disregarded how fouling in football works.
So we get a red, four on field yellows, plus cards for the manager and a sub.
Hope the coach driver takes care on the way home.
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 26, 2023, 06:23:05 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 26, 2023, 05:39:03 PMSo 11 v 12 and then 10 v 12 yet we get a point! Great effort by the lads. My optimism for the season is restored.
Bassey's second yellow was purely a professional foul. He had to do it because he was a step behind a faster man who would have been free 1 on 1 with Leno.
We overcame the usual refs when against a top 6 team. Came from behind while a man down and nine minutes of extra time. I think the ref counted all the time Arsenal was showing their bad sportsmanship while Bassey was on the ground.
All in all a classy performance. Is Leno a great keeper or what!!!
Respectfully disagree on Bassey's second. He didn't need to take it, as Diop covered and was miles ahead of the Arsenal player. Bassey may not have noticed that though, but in hindsight he could have just let the player run by him.
Difficult one in the moment. If he hadn't they still could have scored and it would be game over so in the end May have worked out for us. The stupid one is the first. But then I saw Vierra kick the ball away when they were 2 1 up so no consistency. This yellow card thing for time wasting is ridiculous. Just add the time on. Why do we need yellows on top? There will be that many players suspended by week 10 it's gonna be ridiculous.
On his suspension he'll miss the Tottenham game won't he? Thought he and Diop were excellent today so would like him back for City
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 26, 2023, 05:59:07 PMAn excellent interview from Marco, said it with passion, authority and some control.
He was right, the booking for time wasting was inconsistent with other decisions and prejudiced in favour of one team.
I'm glad someone understood what he had to say. I think he runs Ranieri a close second for hard to understand!
Quote from: Drewry66 on August 26, 2023, 06:29:30 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on August 26, 2023, 06:23:05 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 26, 2023, 05:39:03 PMSo 11 v 12 and then 10 v 12 yet we get a point! Great effort by the lads. My optimism for the season is restored.
Bassey's second yellow was purely a professional foul. He had to do it because he was a step behind a faster man who would have been free 1 on 1 with Leno.
We overcame the usual refs when against a top 6 team. Came from behind while a man down and nine minutes of extra time. I think the ref counted all the time Arsenal was showing their bad sportsmanship while Bassey was on the ground.
All in all a classy performance. Is Leno a great keeper or what!!!
Respectfully disagree on Bassey's second. He didn't need to take it, as Diop covered and was miles ahead of the Arsenal player. Bassey may not have noticed that though, but in hindsight he could have just let the player run by him.
Difficult one in the moment. If he hadn't they still could have scored and it would be game over so in the end May have worked out for us. The stupid one is the first. But then I saw Vierra kick the ball away when they were 2 1 up so no consistency. This yellow card thing for time wasting is ridiculous. Just add the time on. Why do we need yellows on top? There will be that many players suspended by week 10 it's gonna be ridiculous.
On his suspension he'll miss the Tottenham game won't he? Thought he and Diop were excellent today so would like him back for City
If I remember correctly from last year, cup games count for straight reds but not for two yellows. These rules are so ridiculous and arbitrary, just like two yellows won't merit a VAR check but a straight red will.
On a positive note.......
Looking at the fixture list there's a good chance we can achieve at least the same number of points from the first 10 games as last year.
That's 10 games / 12 points.
But its a funny old game!
Quote from: demeant0r on August 26, 2023, 06:32:18 PMQuote from: Drewry66 on August 26, 2023, 06:29:30 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on August 26, 2023, 06:23:05 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 26, 2023, 05:39:03 PMSo 11 v 12 and then 10 v 12 yet we get a point! Great effort by the lads. My optimism for the season is restored.
Bassey's second yellow was purely a professional foul. He had to do it because he was a step behind a faster man who would have been free 1 on 1 with Leno.
We overcame the usual refs when against a top 6 team. Came from behind while a man down and nine minutes of extra time. I think the ref counted all the time Arsenal was showing their bad sportsmanship while Bassey was on the ground.
All in all a classy performance. Is Leno a great keeper or what!!!
Respectfully disagree on Bassey's second. He didn't need to take it, as Diop covered and was miles ahead of the Arsenal player. Bassey may not have noticed that though, but in hindsight he could have just let the player run by him.
Difficult one in the moment. If he hadn't they still could have scored and it would be game over so in the end May have worked out for us. The stupid one is the first. But then I saw Vierra kick the ball away when they were 2 1 up so no consistency. This yellow card thing for time wasting is ridiculous. Just add the time on. Why do we need yellows on top? There will be that many players suspended by week 10 it's gonna be ridiculous.
On his suspension he'll miss the Tottenham game won't he? Thought he and Diop were excellent today so would like him back for City
If I remember correctly from last year, cup games count for straight reds but not for two yellows. These rules are so ridiculous and arbitrary, just like two yellows won't merit a VAR check but a straight red will.
Ta mate. Frigging madness if so. Knew the 5 yellows rule has to be prem but thought 2 yellows and a red could be cup but who the hell knows with all these stupid rules.
Quote from: alfie on August 26, 2023, 05:47:48 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 26, 2023, 05:45:47 PMQuote from: davew on August 26, 2023, 05:29:53 PMMarco interview coming up on Sky channel 409 in a minute, described as interesting, I bet it will be!!
It was! I fear his use of the word "Joke" will get him another yellow and a fine and might mean he will be in the stands for our next two games. I missed the start of the interview but he was clearly passionate. Did he mention that Arsenal kept the ball in play when Bassey was injured?
I don't know what all this fuss is about, they were under no obligation to kick it out, it's down to the ref to stop the game if it's not a head injury, would we have kicked it out I wonder.
I totally agree, we need to stop whingeing about referees, VAR, opposition tactics and the bloody gods in heaven. It's not a good look. Technically neither the ref nor Arsenal did anything incorrect. Instead let's celebrate the fighting qualities of our players, what a fantastic, battling performance.
Quote from: demeant0r on August 26, 2023, 06:32:18 PMQuote from: Drewry66 on August 26, 2023, 06:29:30 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on August 26, 2023, 06:23:05 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 26, 2023, 05:39:03 PMSo 11 v 12 and then 10 v 12 yet we get a point! Great effort by the lads. My optimism for the season is restored.
Bassey's second yellow was purely a professional foul. He had to do it because he was a step behind a faster man who would have been free 1 on 1 with Leno.
We overcame the usual refs when against a top 6 team. Came from behind while a man down and nine minutes of extra time. I think the ref counted all the time Arsenal was showing their bad sportsmanship while Bassey was on the ground.
All in all a classy performance. Is Leno a great keeper or what!!!
Respectfully disagree on Bassey's second. He didn't need to take it, as Diop covered and was miles ahead of the Arsenal player. Bassey may not have noticed that though, but in hindsight he could have just let the player run by him.
Difficult one in the moment. If he hadn't they still could have scored and it would be game over so in the end May have worked out for us. The stupid one is the first. But then I saw Vierra kick the ball away when they were 2 1 up so no consistency. This yellow card thing for time wasting is ridiculous. Just add the time on. Why do we need yellows on top? There will be that many players suspended by week 10 it's gonna be ridiculous.
On his suspension he'll miss the Tottenham game won't he? Thought he and Diop were excellent today so would like him back for City
If I remember correctly from last year, cup games count for straight reds but not for two yellows. These rules are so ridiculous and arbitrary, just like two yellows won't merit a VAR check but a straight red will.
I actually think he'll miss the cup game. Accumulated yellows are the suspensions that don't carry over to other competiotions. Someone should correct me if I'm wrong though.
Quote from: WindyCity on August 26, 2023, 06:05:36 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 26, 2023, 06:00:39 PMHow was Jimenez today? He got a few mentions by Darren Bent about how well he was doing despite lack of service etc.
Thought he had a good game. Much better than the first two, in which I thought he looked slow and totally out of it. Redeemed himself today, though mostly in a defensive role. He almost scored a worldlie, still scratching my head as too how he got that shot off. Terrific skill.
Also did great work in defence, really put himself on the line - very impressed.
Quote from: RaySmith on August 26, 2023, 06:53:02 PMQuote from: WindyCity on August 26, 2023, 06:05:36 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 26, 2023, 06:00:39 PMHow was Jimenez today? He got a few mentions by Darren Bent about how well he was doing despite lack of service etc.
Thought he had a good game. Much better than the first two, in which I thought he looked slow and totally out of it. Redeemed himself today, though mostly in a defensive role. He almost scored a worldlie, still scratching my head as too how he got that shot off. Terrific skill.
Also did great work in defence, really put himself on the line - very impressed.
Good stuff. I like him, just think he needs a run of games and a goal.
Lots of positives from today's game, Jimenez looked good and worked hard, Bassey looked solid, Phalinia back to his best
Quote from: SerbianLad on August 26, 2023, 06:42:07 PMQuote from: demeant0r on August 26, 2023, 06:32:18 PMQuote from: Drewry66 on August 26, 2023, 06:29:30 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on August 26, 2023, 06:23:05 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on August 26, 2023, 05:39:03 PMSo 11 v 12 and then 10 v 12 yet we get a point! Great effort by the lads. My optimism for the season is restored.
Bassey's second yellow was purely a professional foul. He had to do it because he was a step behind a faster man who would have been free 1 on 1 with Leno.
We overcame the usual refs when against a top 6 team. Came from behind while a man down and nine minutes of extra time. I think the ref counted all the time Arsenal was showing their bad sportsmanship while Bassey was on the ground.
All in all a classy performance. Is Leno a great keeper or what!!!
Respectfully disagree on Bassey's second. He didn't need to take it, as Diop covered and was miles ahead of the Arsenal player. Bassey may not have noticed that though, but in hindsight he could have just let the player run by him.
Difficult one in the moment. If he hadn't they still could have scored and it would be game over so in the end May have worked out for us. The stupid one is the first. But then I saw Vierra kick the ball away when they were 2 1 up so no consistency. This yellow card thing for time wasting is ridiculous. Just add the time on. Why do we need yellows on top? There will be that many players suspended by week 10 it's gonna be ridiculous.
On his suspension he'll miss the Tottenham game won't he? Thought he and Diop were excellent today so would like him back for City
If I remember correctly from last year, cup games count for straight reds but not for two yellows. These rules are so ridiculous and arbitrary, just like two yellows won't merit a VAR check but a straight red will.
I actually think he'll miss the cup game. Accumulated yellows are the suspensions that don't carry over to other competiotions. Someone should correct me if I'm wrong though.
I'm hoping you're right, I'd rather he be suspended for the cup game than vs city
Quote from: Twig on August 26, 2023, 06:42:01 PMQuote from: alfie on August 26, 2023, 05:47:48 PMQuote from: LittleErn on August 26, 2023, 05:45:47 PMQuote from: davew on August 26, 2023, 05:29:53 PMMarco interview coming up on Sky channel 409 in a minute, described as interesting, I bet it will be!!
It was! I fear his use of the word "Joke" will get him another yellow and a fine and might mean he will be in the stands for our next two games. I missed the start of the interview but he was clearly passionate. Did he mention that Arsenal kept the ball in play when Bassey was injured?
I don't know what all this fuss is about, they were under no obligation to kick it out, it's down to the ref to stop the game if it's not a head injury, would we have kicked it out I wonder.
I totally agree, we need to stop whingeing about referees, VAR, opposition tactics and the bloody gods in heaven. It's not a good look. Technically neither the ref nor Arsenal did anything incorrect. Instead let's celebrate the fighting qualities of our players, what a fantastic, battling performance.
Completely disagree - when something feels/is unfair, we need to mention it hoping that things will get better. It's not whinging - it's asking for a level playing field.
Quote from: General on August 26, 2023, 05:37:58 PMAhh. OK.. not as promising as I thought. Tight angle, under pressure, effort not fully controlled..
Thought it may have been a 1-on-1 through the middle.
But look at the whole run:
https://twitter.com/FemooAFC/status/1695506733676863519
Impressive speed with the ball over that distance. He outpaced the Arsenal defender who didn't have to run with the ball unlike Adama. Outmuscled him too. I think he can be a real asset this season.
Traore will be a real weapon against tired defenders. Won us the corner as well.
God can you imagine if that had gone in. Would have been better than Brighton last year. Really unlucky as lifted it really well but a decent save to be fair.
Side note. No real mention of Luckic today. Thought he did really well again and looked good next to Joao. Not outstanding but starting to look like a real asset.
Quote from: SerbianLad on August 26, 2023, 07:54:38 PMQuote from: General on August 26, 2023, 05:37:58 PMAhh. OK.. not as promising as I thought. Tight angle, under pressure, effort not fully controlled..
Thought it may have been a 1-on-1 through the middle.
But look at the whole run:
https://twitter.com/FemooAFC/status/1695506733676863519
Impressive speed with the ball over that distance. He outpaced the Arsenal defender who didn't have to run with the ball unlike Adama. Outmuscled him too. I think he can be a real asset this season.
What an absolute unit of a man.
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on August 26, 2023, 08:05:30 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on August 26, 2023, 07:54:38 PMQuote from: General on August 26, 2023, 05:37:58 PMAhh. OK.. not as promising as I thought. Tight angle, under pressure, effort not fully controlled..
Thought it may have been a 1-on-1 through the middle.
But look at the whole run:
https://twitter.com/FemooAFC/status/1695506733676863519
Impressive speed with the ball over that distance. He outpaced the Arsenal defender who didn't have to run with the ball unlike Adama. Outmuscled him too. I think he can be a real asset this season.
What an absolute unit of a man.
I think he's gonna be a really good signing. If we can get a really good left winger as well got a lot of threat on the flanks.
One particular feature of Jimenez's game today, was his ability to win aerial challenges and direct the ball to dangerous areas. With Leno tending to play the ball long compared to usual, you can see how Jimenez's ability to win and direct flicks could become a big plus for the team
Really enjoyed the game today, apart from the drenching before half time. The team played with passion and purpose. I thought they all played well. A mention to Bobby. He works so hard, especially in his defensive responsibilities. But he also has a lot of skill. Three times in the second half he instantly controlled long balls swept over to him and set up attacking opportunities.
Joao's learning...no more stupid yellows!
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1695519481320411356?s=20
Quote from: SerbianLad on August 26, 2023, 07:54:38 PMQuote from: General on August 26, 2023, 05:37:58 PMAhh. OK.. not as promising as I thought. Tight angle, under pressure, effort not fully controlled..
Thought it may have been a 1-on-1 through the middle.
But look at the whole run:
https://twitter.com/FemooAFC/status/1695506733676863519
Impressive speed with the ball over that distance. He outpaced the Arsenal defender who didn't have to run with the ball unlike Adama. Outmuscled him too. I think he can be a real asset this season.
I appreciate that and I saw the whole run. It is impressive and its a great asset to have, especially late in the game and on the counter attack.
That said though, it was still a tight angle.
Can't see this video playback, but wondering if anyone thinks he could've done better by forcing the ball into more of a central position.
He's clearly got the pace, but kept wider and it hindered his final shot..
It's nothing major and I'd like to think with a bit of work it could be sorted easily given his pace, but towards the end of his run I felt his pace took his impact out of the game - I.e. he was going so fast he didn't place the shot as calmly or accurately as he could've, more of a snap shot and then after went to the floor and towards the advertising boards and the pace also meant not only did the arsenal players fail to keep up, but so did the fulham players which limited the impact.
We've got to find a way to utilise him more effectively.
Quote from: Bobsffc on August 26, 2023, 08:42:07 PMOne particular feature of Jimenez's game today, was his ability to win aerial challenges and direct the ball to dangerous areas. With Leno tending to play the ball long compared to usual, you can see how Jimenez's ability to win and direct flicks could become a big plus for the team
Really enjoyed the game today, apart from the drenching before half time. The team played with passion and purpose. I thought they all played well. A mention to Bobby. He works so hard, especially in his defensive responsibilities. But he also has a lot of skill. Three times in the second half he instantly controlled long balls swept over to him and set up attacking opportunities.
Yeah, I've noticed Jiminez winning most of the headers that went his way. If he can get a flick on for Adama then they'll cause shower defences some trouble
Quote from: General on August 26, 2023, 09:00:54 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on August 26, 2023, 07:54:38 PMQuote from: General on August 26, 2023, 05:37:58 PMAhh. OK.. not as promising as I thought. Tight angle, under pressure, effort not fully controlled..
Thought it may have been a 1-on-1 through the middle.
But look at the whole run:
https://twitter.com/FemooAFC/status/1695506733676863519
Impressive speed with the ball over that distance. He outpaced the Arsenal defender who didn't have to run with the ball unlike Adama. Outmuscled him too. I think he can be a real asset this season.
I appreciate that and I saw the whole run. It is impressive and its a great asset to have, especially late in the game and on the counter attack.
That said though, it was still a tight angle.
Can't see this video playback, but wondering if anyone thinks he could've done better by forcing the ball into more of a central position.
He's clearly got the pace, but kept wider and it hindered his final shot..
It's nothing major and I'd like to think with a bit of work it could be sorted easily given his pace, but towards the end of his run I felt his pace took his impact out of the game - I.e. he was going so fast he didn't place the shot as calmly or accurately as he could've, more of a snap shot and then after went to the floor and towards the advertising boards and the pace also meant not only did the arsenal players fail to keep up, but so did the fulham players which limited the impact.
We've got to find a way to utilise him more effectively.
One way to use him effectively is to have Leno lump it to Jimenez and flicking the ball onto Adama.
Quote from: SerbianLad on August 26, 2023, 06:03:49 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on August 26, 2023, 06:00:39 PMHow was Jimenez today? He got a few mentions by Darren Bent about how well he was doing despite lack of service etc.
He was good. Battled hard, won tons of headers. Was fouled multiple times but the referee usually did not give it. Had a spectacular bicycle kick effort in the first half.
I was most impressed with how he consistently was winning headers on the long balls. To be honest, he is much better at those than Mitro. His athleticism and timing is excellent.
That game was a lovely surprise and a wave at ownership that we are still here despite your rasslin.
I thought Jimi played real well compared to the first 2. Bobby looked like a man possessed when they had the ball.
I am glad you are all proud of the team performance as you should be.
Remember what i wrote yesterday.
NEVER SURRENDER
A Memorable win or a Glorious defeat, or an HONOURABLE DRAW.
Yes an Honourable fighting draw with one man shy.
I never want to read talk about being beaten easily by a team before a ball is kicked, shame on you who are soft and timid and defeatist.
I hope the doom mongers and milky supporters on here realise now how gritty and resilient a team can be when players stand up and be counted.
Silvas tactics were excellent and the players followed instructions.
I said have faith in your team, it was a moral victory which was magnified by having ten men.
Can you imagine the team spirit and confidence that will merge from the Fulham dressing room after this match.
Be Proud and stand up straight and salute Mighty Fulham.
Non Cessio
Quote from: OZ-WHITE on August 26, 2023, 05:36:44 PMQuote from: Black and White Town on August 26, 2023, 05:26:09 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on August 26, 2023, 05:19:24 PMIf anyone is able to show Traorès late effort would be most welcome...👍
https://twitter.com/Reinaldodcg9/status/1695465161476223286?t=FFMBX23iUn6Zqq1zN466Iw&s=19
Big chance to have a player on the opposite side for a tap in as Traore had just enough space to chip across the goal face
Unfortunately no one else in the team is quick enough to support him.
Most of the Arsenal team could not keep up with him either mind you.
Salina did extremely well to stay with him up to put in a challenge from behind.
An observation on Saka's penalty against Fulham, about having it on the edge of the spot to gain an advantage (this caused more delay than the Bassey goal kick). Why not instead of a white spot, have a white circle and the ball has to be placed in the center of that before the kick can be taken. Same with corners make the arc bigger and tell them they have to have the ball inside it.
Quote from: EN1 FFC on August 28, 2023, 11:10:16 AMAn observation on Saka's penalty against Fulham, about having it on the edge of the spot to gain an advantage (this caused more delay than the Bassey goal kick). Why not instead of a white spot, have a white circle and the ball has to be placed in the center of that before the kick can be taken. Same with corners make the arc bigger and tell them they have to have the ball inside it.
What I don't get is why do players do it? Is there really an advantage of having the ball placed 5 centimeters closer to the goal. Same with corners. I just don't get players that do that.
Quote from: SerbianLad on August 28, 2023, 11:15:57 AMQuote from: EN1 FFC on August 28, 2023, 11:10:16 AMAn observation on Saka's penalty against Fulham, about having it on the edge of the spot to gain an advantage (this caused more delay than the Bassey goal kick). Why not instead of a white spot, have a white circle and the ball has to be placed in the center of that before the kick can be taken. Same with corners make the arc bigger and tell them they have to have the ball inside it.
What I don't get is why do players do it? Is there really an advantage of having the ball placed 5 centimeters closer to the goal. Same with corners. I just don't get players that do that.
To be honest I've always done it when playing football - but perhaps for different reasons... penalty spots and corner markings are often more worn out so there's a (marginally) greater chance of miss hitting it. I haven't played on a premier league quality pitch before where this shouldn't be an issue... but neither did these players when playing youth football/having a kick about in the park, so maybe the habit stuck...
I am old school and think this modern placing on the edge of a line is a nonsense. Corners should be taken within the quadrant and penalty kicks taken from on the spot.
Now I agree that the penalty spot can be roughed up and often deliberately by defenders. But that is the lottery of football. We seem to change the rules to suit the mood instead of just sticking to simple rules.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 28, 2023, 11:32:52 AMI am old school and think this modern placing on the edge of a line is a nonsense. Corners should be taken within the quadrant and penalty kicks taken from on the spot.
Now I agree that the penalty spot can be roughed up and often deliberately by defenders. But that is the lottery of football. We seem to change the rules to suit the mood instead of just sticking to simple rules.
Absolutely agree.
Quote from: SerbianLad on August 28, 2023, 11:15:57 AMQuote from: EN1 FFC on August 28, 2023, 11:10:16 AMAn observation on Saka's penalty against Fulham, about having it on the edge of the spot to gain an advantage (this caused more delay than the Bassey goal kick). Why not instead of a white spot, have a white circle and the ball has to be placed in the center of that before the kick can be taken. Same with corners make the arc bigger and tell them they have to have the ball inside it.
What I don't get is why do players do it? Is there really an advantage of having the ball placed 5 centimeters closer to the goal. Same with corners. I just don't get players that do that.
Let's not forget saka has a demonstrated history of bottling penalties when it matters