After the terrible performance against Greece what are we expecting from England this afternnon.
Surely we can aviod back to back defeats but can we make it worth while missing Fulham for this wretched international break.
England are a wounded Lion, so i expect a very strong response, as they will want to bounce back and be ruthless.
It will be interesting to see the starting line up.
I expect a chance to nod off around the fifteen minute mark. Then wake up and put the little heater on as I will be cold. Come forty minutes I will go down and make a cup of tea. Then in the second half start reading and probably put on some music.
At the end of the game the so called wounded lion would have won or lost but will take of its ballet tou tou and little ballet shoes and I will see what there is to watch tonight.
We always have hope it will be entertaining. But deep down we know.
Completely new tactics on which they have at least twenty five minutes to prectise, half hearted (at best) singing of the national anthem and most of the team wishing they were still with the under 21s.
Team is looking more conventional and Harry Kane may be at centre forward, we should be thinking of nothing less than a 3-0 win.
There cannot be a repetition of the performance or system of play from the other night.
So i expect the wounded Lion to growl and bite back, and keep Finland in the Lions mouth.
Because if you cannot handle the Lion Cub, don't mess with his father.
From a commercial point of view I can understand these fixtures but from a fans and players point of view, I really can't understand them at all. If it was a franchise system you could easily justify sending players off to different parts of the world but when you "own" the players contract and need them at the weekend it makes a mockery making them playing fixtures for ultimately not many are bothered about. Since the World Cup predates the Euros by about 30 years, I would even say I would prefer to have an extended World Cup but scrap all of the continents country tournaments.
I've just seen the starting lineup....bit strange that we're starting with 3 goalkeepers
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on October 13, 2024, 02:15:53 PMI've just seen the starting lineup....bit strange that we're starting with 3 goalkeepers
That's the Finland team.
Quote from: Yorkie_FFC on October 13, 2024, 01:48:27 PMFrom a commercial point of view I can understand these fixtures but from a fans and players point of view, I really can't understand them at all. If it was a franchise system you could easily justify sending players off to different parts of the world but when you "own" the players contract and need them at the weekend it makes a mockery making them playing fixtures for ultimately not many are bothered about. Since the World Cup predates the Euros by about 30 years, I would even say I would prefer to have an extended World Cup but scrap all of the continents country tournaments.
I'm curious to know how you know the players are not bothered about it, because the players I know/knew loved playing for their country.
I myself love international football.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on October 13, 2024, 02:15:53 PMI've just seen the starting lineup....bit strange that we're starting with 3 goalkeepers
I'm not far off.... Alex Armlong is playing in his regular spot as left back....what do I know
Glad to see Pickford dropped...
Come on guys, Ireland put two past Finland on Thursday night. Surely England will be good for at least four goals.
Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on October 13, 2024, 05:11:12 PMCome on guys, Ireland put two past Finland on Thursday night. Surely England will be good for at least four goals.
Well we've scored one now so 🤞
Am I the only one that's bored.... I'm off to watch some paint
England on top and 1-0 up at half time but it would be nice to see some shots on goal.
Lets hope we get a couple in the second half and come home with a respectable 3-0 win.
Jesse Joronen ex FFC on bench for Finland.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 13, 2024, 02:35:57 PMQuote from: H4usuallysitting on October 13, 2024, 02:15:53 PMI've just seen the starting lineup....bit strange that we're starting with 3 goalkeepers
That's the Finland team.
It's not though.
Quote from: The King on October 13, 2024, 06:21:39 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 13, 2024, 02:35:57 PMQuote from: H4usuallysitting on October 13, 2024, 02:15:53 PMI've just seen the starting lineup....bit strange that we're starting with 3 goalkeepers
That's the Finland team.
It's not though.
My reply was tongue in cheek. The clue is in the word " starting. "
Come November we are to be treated to yet another boring international break, the third this season. As with the daft World Club Championship next summer another tournament not needed.
Thank you and good night Â
I really like Finland's home shirt
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on October 14, 2024, 09:12:44 AMI really like Finland's home shirt
The England kit was dreadful, looked like old Chelsea kit that had miised the laundry for a season.
Quote from: filham on October 14, 2024, 10:03:14 AMQuote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on October 14, 2024, 09:12:44 AMI really like Finland's home shirt
The England kit was dreadful, looked like old Chelsea kit that had miised the laundry for a season.
England's national colours are red and white - not grey. The change strip should be red.
Quote from: Holders on October 14, 2024, 11:10:43 AMQuote from: filham on October 14, 2024, 10:03:14 AMQuote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on October 14, 2024, 09:12:44 AMI really like Finland's home shirt
The England kit was dreadful, looked like old Chelsea kit that had miised the laundry for a season.
England's national colours are red and white - not grey. The change strip should be red.
Absolutely
Quote from: alfie on October 13, 2024, 02:51:08 PMQuote from: Yorkie_FFC on October 13, 2024, 01:48:27 PMFrom a commercial point of view I can understand these fixtures but from a fans and players point of view, I really can't understand them at all. If it was a franchise system you could easily justify sending players off to different parts of the world but when you "own" the players contract and need them at the weekend it makes a mockery making them playing fixtures for ultimately not many are bothered about. Since the World Cup predates the Euros by about 30 years, I would even say I would prefer to have an extended World Cup but scrap all of the continents country tournaments.
I'm curious to know how you know the players are not bothered about it, because the players I know/knew loved playing for their country.
I myself love international football.
Me and you both alfie! Club and Country.
Quote from: filham on October 14, 2024, 10:03:14 AMQuote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on October 14, 2024, 09:12:44 AMI really like Finland's home shirt
The England kit was dreadful, looked like old Chelsea kit that had miised the laundry for a season.
Also liked the Finland shirt.
The England shirt was 'deep raisin' apparently - imagine chanting 'come on you deep raisins'!!!!
Quote from: Lester Burnham on October 14, 2024, 05:50:25 PMQuote from: alfie on October 13, 2024, 02:51:08 PMQuote from: Yorkie_FFC on October 13, 2024, 01:48:27 PMFrom a commercial point of view I can understand these fixtures but from a fans and players point of view, I really can't understand them at all. If it was a franchise system you could easily justify sending players off to different parts of the world but when you "own" the players contract and need them at the weekend it makes a mockery making them playing fixtures for ultimately not many are bothered about. Since the World Cup predates the Euros by about 30 years, I would even say I would prefer to have an extended World Cup but scrap all of the continents country tournaments.
I'm curious to know how you know the players are not bothered about it, because the players I know/knew loved playing for their country.
I myself love international football.
Me and you both alfie! Club and Country.
We should have a competition that means something. World Cup qualifiers etc. Even Euro qualification. But instead we have this over busy fixture list of leagues to see who qualifies for the top section of a league who then have to qualify for the European competition who then......Like European club football. Knockouts were fun. Now leagues make yet more meaningless football. Nobody can convince me that we have had one decent match or even entertaining match since we have had this swamping of the fixture list for internationals.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 14, 2024, 03:16:41 PMQuote from: Holders on October 14, 2024, 11:10:43 AMQuote from: filham on October 14, 2024, 10:03:14 AMQuote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on October 14, 2024, 09:12:44 AMI really like Finland's home shirt
The England kit was dreadful, looked like old Chelsea kit that had miised the laundry for a season.
England's national colours are red and white - not grey. The change strip should be red.
Absolutely
Is this the kind of red shirt England should be wearing
I'm curious to know how you know the players are not bothered about it, because the players I know/knew loved playing for their country.
I myself love international football.
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Without a mass survey it's difficult to answer. If we are looking at Nations League, you have to wonder why England were relegated to "Nations League B" from group A, after losing twice to Hungary. In the Nations League Bosnia and Herzegovina, Israel, and Scotland are in the 'A' groups. Were England really that bothered about that tournament and that bothered this time around?
From the prospective of a monetary value for playing for England (other countries will vary) the players are apparently paid £2000 per match each which they donate to charity, so in effect playing for nil returns (it would be nice to think this was a good as they make it seem as a nice charity donation however how much is £2000 to a top end footballer) taking Harry Kane as an example he is paid circa £400,000 per week at Bayern.Â
In the nations league there are 6 group games, plus others if you progress but to what exactly, well done you won a made up competition that we used to have breaks for organised friendlies to try out new things/players. Football is at a risk of diluting itself out commercially. If you look at the fixtures there has been an option of football even if your interest is Women's Champions League every single day (only 10th October no real men's football) for at least the past 4 weeks, they are even moving EFL League 1 games to a Thursday to fill gaps alongside the Championship Friday night fixtures.
Some genuinely might enjoy playing for their country and if they want to burn themselves out or risk an injury playing on a wet Tuesday in Bosnia or wherever you get to then good luck. I am not saying scrap internationals altogether but for the welfare of the players at least get rid of the unneeded games.
Quote from: Yorkie_FFC on October 16, 2024, 01:46:29 PMI'm curious to know how you know the players are not bothered about it, because the players I know/knew loved playing for their country.
I myself love international football.
Without a mass survey it's difficult to answer. If we are looking at Nations League, you have to wonder why England were relegated to "Nations League B" from group A, after losing twice to Hungary. In the Nations League Bosnia and Herzegovina, Israel, and Scotland are in the 'A' groups. Were England really that bothered about that tournament and that bothered this time around?
From the prospective of a monetary value for playing for England (other countries will vary) the players are apparently paid £2000 per match each which they donate to charity, so in effect playing for nil returns (it would be nice to think this was a good as they make it seem as a nice charity donation however how much is £2000 to a top end footballer) taking Harry Kane as an example he is paid circa £400,000 per week at Bayern.Â
In the nations league there are 6 group games, plus others if you progress but to what exactly, well done you won a made up competition that we used to have breaks for organised friendlies to try out new things/players. Football is at a risk of diluting itself out commercially. If you look at the fixtures there has been an option of football even if your interest is Women's Champions League every single day (only 10th October no real men's football) for at least the past 4 weeks, they are even moving EFL League 1 games to a Thursday to fill gaps alongside the Championship Friday night fixtures.
Some genuinely might enjoy playing for their country and if they want to burn themselves out or risk an injury playing on a wet Tuesday in Bosnia or wherever you get to then good luck. I am not saying scrap internationals altogether but for the welfare of the players at least get rid of the unneeded games.
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I appreciate your opinion.
Quote from: alfie on October 13, 2024, 02:51:08 PMQuote from: Yorkie_FFC on October 13, 2024, 01:48:27 PMFrom a commercial point of view I can understand these fixtures but from a fans and players point of view, I really can't understand them at all. If it was a franchise system you could easily justify sending players off to different parts of the world but when you "own" the players contract and need them at the weekend it makes a mockery making them playing fixtures for ultimately not many are bothered about. Since the World Cup predates the Euros by about 30 years, I would even say I would prefer to have an extended World Cup but scrap all of the continents country tournaments.
I'm curious to know how you know the players are not bothered about it, because the players I know/knew loved playing for their country.
I myself love international football.
As i do Alfie
Quote from: Colton F.C. on October 14, 2024, 08:19:48 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 14, 2024, 03:16:41 PMQuote from: Holders on October 14, 2024, 11:10:43 AMQuote from: filham on October 14, 2024, 10:03:14 AMQuote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on October 14, 2024, 09:12:44 AMI really like Finland's home shirt
The England kit was dreadful, looked like old Chelsea kit that had miised the laundry for a season.
England's national colours are red and white - not grey. The change strip should be red.
Absolutely
Is this the kind of red shirt England should be wearing
Yes