Has he actually started a game for Bayern yet?
Yes, but he's currently injured. Or at least he was last week.
Started a few. Currently injured until January but he isn't first choice when healthy. Pavlovich and Kimmich are the starters. He fills in if one is out. Otherwise he usually is a late sub.
What a waste.
Bring him back!
Hopefully, the image below shows for everyone. I got this from Cottage Tactico who is on X and Bluesky. He is really good at breaking down games and player data.
Correct me if I'm wrong but according to the data in the picture Sander is a more complete midfielder than Palhinha. Between Sander and Lukic not only is Fulham still very good at helping to keep pressure off the back line but they do better at carrying the ball and passing it forward. Palhinha was fantastic for us but I think for now Fulham has moved on nicely.
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I think those stats do tell the story. We're better on the ball this season, and one reason for that is Palhinha wasn't a great passer, nor did he move with the ball. Both Lukic and Berge do. Would love them to get 2-3 goals a season each on top of what they're contributing though.
These stats are fabulous. I can't imagine the time it takes to generate them. They certainly don't lie & show our current patterns of play. In saying that, there was something about watching JP 'hunting' our midfield for his next victim. I miss him & would have him back in a heartbeat.
Quote from: Zoppa77 on December 16, 2024, 11:26:01 AMThese stats are fabulous. I can't imagine the time it takes to generate them. They certainly don't lie & show our current patterns of play. In saying that, there was something about watching JP 'hunting' our midfield for his next victim. I miss him & would have him back in a heartbeat.
His tackles were a thing of beauty!
Quote from: love4ffc on December 16, 2024, 03:05:01 AMHopefully, the image below shows for everyone. I got this from Cottage Tactico who is on X and Bluesky. He is really good at breaking down games and player data.
Correct me if I'm wrong but according to the data in the picture Sander is a more complete midfielder than Palhinha. Between Sander and Lukic not only is Fulham still very good at helping to keep pressure off the back line but they do better at carrying the ball and passing it forward. Palhinha was fantastic for us but I think for now Fulham has moved on nicely.
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This is really interesting. Thanks for sharing it.
As had been said above, it would be good if Berge & Lukic could chip in with a goal or 3 too.
Without Tosin, Mitro & Palhinha our set piece threat is about 0 right now.
Quote from: wback100 on December 16, 2024, 10:57:54 AMI think those stats do tell the story. We're better on the ball this season, and one reason for that is Palhinha wasn't a great passer, nor did he move with the ball. Both Lukic and Berge do. Would love them to get 2-3 goals a season each on top of what they're contributing though.
I agree the two we have now are pretty much compensating for everything Palhinha provided, but I've seen a couple of posts saying he wasn't a great passer but IMO that's unfair. I think we remember him for his tackles and therefore assume he wasn't so good in possession. But in reality, that chart shows you he still marginally outperformed the other two for progressive passes, and IIRC his othet passing stats were solid.
Let's put it another way.... Palhinia was superb for us, we then got very good money for him.....then....guess what.... Fulham not only improved, our quality of football has moved to a another level..... it's a team sport
It certainly is a team sport, but what a team we would have with him in it
If he was fit I could see Man City moving for him in January to solve their defensive mf problem.
It's really rare that transfers seem to happen this way, but he was brilliant for us while staying for the perfect time. He allowed us to establish ourselves as a comfortably mid table side, bring in money and players, and then got his dream move when we were able to survive without him. Will always wish him the best for the rest of his career and beyond.
Palhinha is one of my favorite Fulham players of all time. His work rate, aggression, and tenacity made him an elite destroyer. It was truly spectacular to watch him buzz around the field, always in action. That said, both Berge and Lukic have proven to be very effective at breaking up play, and our team is definitely more composed in possession this season.
Berge, in particular, is extremely secure with the ball. He handles his responsibilities quietly and calmly, making him a real gem of a player. Credit also goes to Lukic, who is not only contributing defensively but is also pushing forward effectively to help drive us up the field.
Full credit to Marco as well. Despite losing one of the best players in the world in that position, he has managed to transform the replacements into a more functional midfield.