Sorry to create yet another Scott Parker thread, but Jesus Christ - this interview with the BBC really sums him up.
Arrogant, inarticulate - "thick" for want of a better word. I really hope Burnley don't go up, as the media love in will just continue.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cqx48z3ryr1o
Speaking of Frank Lampard:
"He's doing very well now and he's done very well in a short space of time in his career, probably similar to myself".
Speaking of his team:
"Them experienced guys - them ones that are not just the guys who are experienced and got the t-shirt - but those guys that can voice things, lead, and the players listen, it's infectious," he added.
::cry::
The thing is, Scotty will be fearful of the premier league, he's failed each time before and the way Burnley play won't be effective in the premier league.
Like with us, if Burnley get promoted, he has some big decisions to make, keep the same turgid football and rest with his laurels - probably getting sacked with his squad in relegation.
Or,
He changes style and trys to stay up - again probably getting sacked with his squad in relegation, tactics take time to change, especially drastically which will need to happen in the premier league.
In both scenarios, parker won't look amazing, but like kompany, parker may well look better to the world media if he sticks by his laurels and doesn't divert the style he's known for.
not surprised. there were quite a few leaks from when he was with us about how much of a ***** he is and more than half the team didnt like him. Let alone how fast the leaks from bournemouth came out on their forums, wasn't it in the first week he had a bust up with a long term employee? they couldn't wait for him to get out. :slap:
He didn't seem to listen to "them experienced guys" when he managed us?
This will probably be the only time I want Fat Frank to win a game!
I'm just so sick of hearing about Scott bloody Parker.
"Them moments them magic "moments - cue song
Quote from: Willham on April 05, 2025, 08:40:57 AMThe thing is, Scotty will be fearful of the premier league, he's failed each time before and the way Burnley play won't be effective in the premier league.
Like with us, if Burnley get promoted, he has some big decisions to make, keep the same turgid football and rest with his laurels - probably getting sacked with his squad in relegation.
Or,
He changes style and trys to stay up - again probably getting sacked with his squad in relegation, tactics take time to change, especially drastically which will need to happen in the premier league.
In both scenarios, parker won't look amazing, but like kompany, parker may well look better to the world media if he sticks by his laurels and doesn't divert the style he's known for.
I think he is too arrogant to be fearful tbh and I can't see him changing his style - it has been successful in the Championship but it most definitely won't work in the EPL. If they do get promoted I think Burnley fans are in for a torrid time and as far as this successful season goes I for one wouldn't want to be watching endless no score draws or one nil wins. I know points on the board count but football is supposed to be entertaining and the Parker style is anything but.
Not a big SP fan at all, however, am pleased to see Leeds dropping off auto. Hope Leeds fails promotion, would rather see Burnley move up than Leeds......
I do think the new Riverside stand should be named the Scott Parker Stand
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on April 05, 2025, 04:11:38 PMI do think the new Riverside stand should be named the Scott Parker Stand
:slap:
Dunno what to say, the blokes clearly Toxic
Quote from: WindyCity on April 05, 2025, 03:39:51 PMNot a big SP fan at all, however, am pleased to see Leeds dropping off auto. Hope Leeds fails promotion, would rather see Burnley move up than Leeds......
Me too and then get relegated
Absolutely got Burnley away on the diary if Burnley are promoted, can't wait to sing "super silva" 😆
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on April 05, 2025, 04:11:38 PMI do think the new Riverside stand should be named the Scott Parker Stand
Is that because it goes side to side
Quote from: Nero on April 05, 2025, 08:16:43 PMQuote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on April 05, 2025, 04:11:38 PMI do think the new Riverside stand should be named the Scott Parker Stand
Is that because it goes side to side
Or because it takes forever to make any progress.
Let's not slag Parker. Our tactics have resembled Parker's tactics in a number of games this season. Just passing sideways and back.
Scott Parker is, whether we like it or not, one of the most successful Chanpionship Managers.
In terms of his style, we are currently playing it ourselves most recently!!!
Quote from: WindyCity on April 05, 2025, 03:39:51 PMNot a big SP fan at all, however, am pleased to see Leeds dropping off auto. Hope Leeds fails promotion, would rather see Burnley move up than Leeds......
Careful what we wish for....Imagine a year from now seeing SP on the box, crowing about "Them six points what we got of of Fulham....."
Most teams in the PL get relegated because they can't defend well enough. He has shown some ability to make his teams hard to beat, and that could be a solid base for doing ok in the PL next season.
In life people can improve at what they are doing as they learn from mistakes and pick up more experience and knowhow. Football management can be unforgiving but who is to say that he has not improved since he left us. Burnley tried playing expansive football under Kompany and it didn't work in the PL. Their track record of doing well was by playing Dyche turgid percentage style football. Not that Parker plays like that particularly, but they would probably do well do try a bit of that next season if they go up. Everton are currently playing that style under Moyes quite well.
It is always interesting to see what attire he is wearing, that is all the t****r has going
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on April 05, 2025, 04:11:38 PMI do think the new Riverside stand should be named the Scott Parker Stand
It's big but not big enough for his ego.
Quote from: bencher on April 06, 2025, 08:27:22 AMMost teams in the PL get relegated because they can't defend well enough. He has shown some ability to make his teams hard to beat, and that could be a solid base for doing ok in the PL next season.
In life people can improve at what they are doing as they learn from mistakes and pick up more experience and knowhow. Football management can be unforgiving but who is to say that he has not improved since he left us. Burnley tried playing expansive football under Kompany and it didn't work in the PL. Their track record of doing well was by playing Dyche turgid percentage style football. Not that Parker plays like that particularly, but they would probably do well do try a bit of that next season if they go up. Everton are currently playing that style under Moyes quite well.
I think club brugge might have something to say about how he's 'improved' since leaving us.
I do however disagree with your assessment, parker's Burnley us already showing an inability to score goals against some opposition and being against better defences in the form of prem teams will just compound this, further evident is shown in our own performances in the premier league under parker, we always looked okay, decent on the ball, possession stats always good, we didn't have many shots but we also didn't concede many, the thing was we would usually concede one and that was enough.
Remember how on the fence everyone was about parker, we didn't get demolished, we looked reasonably in the game throughout, it's just passing for passing sake does not score goals in the prem.
I also disagree that Everton play a similar system. Everton have little possession, using the ball quickly to move up the pitch and get a shot on goal, a huge counter attacking focus, Burnley do not counter attack.
Quote from: Willham on April 06, 2025, 11:51:42 AMQuote from: bencher on April 06, 2025, 08:27:22 AMMost teams in the PL get relegated because they can't defend well enough. He has shown some ability to make his teams hard to beat, and that could be a solid base for doing ok in the PL next season.
In life people can improve at what they are doing as they learn from mistakes and pick up more experience and knowhow. Football management can be unforgiving but who is to say that he has not improved since he left us. Burnley tried playing expansive football under Kompany and it didn't work in the PL. Their track record of doing well was by playing Dyche turgid percentage style football. Not that Parker plays like that particularly, but they would probably do well do try a bit of that next season if they go up. Everton are currently playing that style under Moyes quite well.
I think club brugge might have something to say about how he's 'improved' since leaving us.
I do however disagree with your assessment, parker's Burnley us already showing an inability to score goals against some opposition and being against better defences in the form of prem teams will just compound this, further evident is shown in our own performances in the premier league under parker, we always looked okay, decent on the ball, possession stats always good, we didn't have many shots but we also didn't concede many, the thing was we would usually concede one and that was enough.
Remember how on the fence everyone was about parker, we didn't get demolished, we looked reasonably in the game throughout, it's just passing for passing sake does not score goals in the prem.
I also disagree that Everton play a similar system. Everton have little possession, using the ball quickly to move up the pitch and get a shot on goal, a huge counter attacking focus, Burnley do not counter attack.
I was on the fence about Parker at the end but in retrospect it was because the quality of our squad was more in question.
Looking back now it is painfully obvious he did not get anywhere near the most out of that team. He had a team filled with Premier League players that were relegated. Other than Harrison Reed I don't think he got the best out of any of them.
Quote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 01:24:04 AMLet's not slag Parker. Our tactics have resembled Parker's tactics in a number of games this season. Just passing sideways and back.
I stand corrected with this statement. Today there was no sideways, backwards, negative football on display.
Quote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 04:18:20 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 01:24:04 AMLet's not slag Parker. Our tactics have resembled Parker's tactics in a number of games this season. Just passing sideways and back.
I stand corrected with this statement. Today there was no sideways, backwards, negative football on display.
...and what a difference! Sess set the scene with some early forward runs
Quote from: ron on April 06, 2025, 04:26:23 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 04:18:20 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 01:24:04 AMLet's not slag Parker. Our tactics have resembled Parker's tactics in a number of games this season. Just passing sideways and back.
I stand corrected with this statement. Today there was no sideways, backwards, negative football on display.
...and what a difference! Sess set the scene with some early forward runs
I know we just signed him, but give him a new contract but with an £80m release clause.
Quote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 04:28:31 PMQuote from: ron on April 06, 2025, 04:26:23 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 04:18:20 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 01:24:04 AMLet's not slag Parker. Our tactics have resembled Parker's tactics in a number of games this season. Just passing sideways and back.
I stand corrected with this statement. Today there was no sideways, backwards, negative football on display.
...and what a difference! Sess set the scene with some early forward runs
I know we just signed him, but give him a new contract but with an £80m release clause.
Out of curiosity, Isn't it better to just not have a release clause? It's not mandatory.
I'm all for a longer contract though.
Quote from: Sting of the North on April 08, 2025, 10:24:18 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 04:28:31 PMQuote from: ron on April 06, 2025, 04:26:23 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 04:18:20 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 01:24:04 AMLet's not slag Parker. Our tactics have resembled Parker's tactics in a number of games this season. Just passing sideways and back.
I stand corrected with this statement. Today there was no sideways, backwards, negative football on display.
...and what a difference! Sess set the scene with some early forward runs
I know we just signed him, but give him a new contract but with an £80m release clause.
Out of curiosity, Isn't it better to just not have a release clause? It's not mandatory.
I'm all for a longer contract though.
It just means that we set an expectation to other clubs and to the player himself about what we would expect to receive if we were to sell him. Not setting one could mean they become unsettled if a big club like Liverpool comes along and makes a meagre bid.
Quote from: demeant0r on April 09, 2025, 08:32:48 AMQuote from: Sting of the North on April 08, 2025, 10:24:18 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 04:28:31 PMQuote from: ron on April 06, 2025, 04:26:23 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 04:18:20 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 01:24:04 AMLet's not slag Parker. Our tactics have resembled Parker's tactics in a number of games this season. Just passing sideways and back.
I stand corrected with this statement. Today there was no sideways, backwards, negative football on display.
...and what a difference! Sess set the scene with some early forward runs
I know we just signed him, but give him a new contract but with an £80m release clause.
Out of curiosity, Isn't it better to just not have a release clause? It's not mandatory.
I'm all for a longer contract though.
It just means that we set an expectation to other clubs and to the player himself about what we would expect to receive if we were to sell him. Not setting one could mean they become unsettled if a big club like Liverpool comes along and makes a meagre bid.
Personally I don't think players are quite that simple minded. As of now, he is of course not worth anything near that, so even if we set an 80 million clause, he wouldn't expect us to turn everything else down. Likewise, clubs wouldn't just think that we would refuse to discuss lower offers.
In my mind, the only thing a clause such such as that does is to take away our possibility to negotiate should the player improve to world class level. If he doesn't, the clause is meaningless because no one (including the player himself) would expect the price to be anywhere near that amount.
As for setting expectations, that could just as easily be done without a clause, since I assume that the club and the player talks to each other.
But that is my take.
Quote from: Sammyffc on April 05, 2025, 10:14:07 AMnot surprised. there were quite a few leaks from when he was with us about how much of a ***** he is and more than half the team didnt like him. Let alone how fast the leaks from bournemouth came out on their forums, wasn't it in the first week he had a bust up with a long term employee? they couldn't wait for him to get out. :slap:
Most of the leaks were in our defence that year, from what I can remember
Quote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 04:28:31 PMQuote from: ron on April 06, 2025, 04:26:23 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 04:18:20 PMQuote from: demeant0r on April 06, 2025, 01:24:04 AMLet's not slag Parker. Our tactics have resembled Parker's tactics in a number of games this season. Just passing sideways and back.
I stand corrected with this statement. Today there was no sideways, backwards, negative football on display.
...and what a difference! Sess set the scene with some early forward runs
I know we just signed him, but give him a new contract but with an £80m release clause.
I think Sess has found out that the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.