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Title: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: The Little Dave on June 22, 2025, 11:27:56 AM
Fabrizio gave Tete to Everton the confirmation here we go. Fulhamish twitter also posted and they don't dabble in rumors so I'm assuming this is a lock and formal announcement will come from Everton next week.

Big gap even if we think post injury Timo can start, need to find support.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: SP on June 22, 2025, 11:30:50 AM
I'd be surprised if it's a three year contract as rumoured.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: _Putney_ on June 22, 2025, 11:33:58 AM
Damn.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: SerbianLad on June 22, 2025, 11:39:49 AM
I hope that we will at least get a proper replacement, and not a Kyle Walker/Coufal/Walker-Peters type of replacement. I hope we spend big on someone who is top quality.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: bencher on June 22, 2025, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: SerbianLad on June 22, 2025, 11:39:49 AMI hope that we will at least get a proper replacement, and not a Kyle Walker/Coufal/Walker-Peters type of replacement. I hope we spend big on someone who is top quality.

I hope we spend small on someone top quality. Something in the mould of Tete, a bargain that gives great value. We need to prioritise outlay on top quality attackers, and look for bargains at full back.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: SerbianLad on June 22, 2025, 11:50:24 AM
Quote from: bencher on June 22, 2025, 11:47:35 AMI hope we spend small on someone top quality. Something in the mould of Tete, a bargain that gives great value. We need to prioritise outlay on top quality attackers, and look for bargains at full back.
Well, that would obviously be ideal. It's hard to find good bargains like that though. Tete is arguably our biggest bargain buy in recent years.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Drewry66 on June 22, 2025, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: bencher on June 22, 2025, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: SerbianLad on June 22, 2025, 11:39:49 AMI hope that we will at least get a proper replacement, and not a Kyle Walker/Coufal/Walker-Peters type of replacement. I hope we spend big on someone who is top quality.

I hope we spend small on someone top quality. Something in the mould of Tete, a bargain that gives great value. We need to prioritise outlay on top quality attackers, and look for bargains at full back.

To be fair Bellanova would be an attacking purchase with his assists record. A frigging expensive one however!

If we end up with Coufal as a replacement for Tete I might just stop watching football all together.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Bal_13 on June 22, 2025, 12:18:03 PM
Really disappointing if true.

I'm going to guess that Everton gave Kenny the big sell on their new stadium and subsequent project and probably gave him a longer more lucrative contract with maybe more assurances on playing time.

Not great. Let's hope we get Bellanova or someone of similar quality. 
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Twig on June 22, 2025, 01:12:04 PM
Why do we need to spend big on a replacement for Tete when we already have Timmy C available?  I knw his form dropped off a bit but he was playing through an injury in order to cover for the injured Tete. When he's fully fit Castagne is surely a more than adequate starter at RB? Obviously we will now need to sign a new RB, but I would like to see a youngster with real promise who we can develop for a season or two as cover for Castagne.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: hopper on June 22, 2025, 01:16:30 PM
Very disappointing news to kick off the window. One of my favourite players to wear the shirt.

Hope this isn't the own goal it appears to be. Player retention and contract negotiations seem to be a problem at the moment.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: SerbianLad on June 22, 2025, 01:16:54 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 22, 2025, 01:12:04 PMWhy do we need to spend big on a replacement for Tete when we already have Timmy C available?  I knw his form dropped off a bit but he was playing through an injury in order to cover for the injured Tete. When he's fully fit Castagne is surely a more than adequate starter at RB? Obviously we will now need to sign a new RB, but I would like to see a youngster with real promise who we can develop for a season or two as cover for Castagne.
Because Castagne will also miss some games. We were really lucky that we had Tete and Castagne, two superb players battling for one position in the past two years. Fullbacks are extremely important in our system, maybe even the most important part of our team. Unlike Robinson, Castagne will also get injured from time to time which is why I think we need another great player there. BDR did admirably when needed in the first PL season under Marco and Cedric did okay, but we really missed Tete in those games, imo.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: H4usuallysitting on June 22, 2025, 01:26:53 PM
Not happy if Tete is off, but he's had quite a few injuries.... Castagne is more than capable of replacing him, plus maybe the chance for a youngster to step up
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: JimmyConway on June 22, 2025, 01:28:59 PM
Quote from: Bal_13 on June 22, 2025, 12:18:03 PMReally disappointing if true.

I'm going to guess that Everton gave Kenny the big sell on their new stadium and subsequent project and probably gave him a longer more lucrative contract with maybe more assurances on playing time.

Not great. Let's hope we get Bellanova or someone of similar quality. 
More money longer contract how else do you get these players to uproot their families? Does seem a little surprising with regards to Tete as he gave me impression he might have been content at Fulham? I suppose if it's £20-£30-£50k extra a week then difficult to turn down.
I don't think it's anywhere near a problem if say Robinson or Bassey were off. We were going to have to bring in a new right back sooner than later and this will just hasten the process. I don't think you get half a season let alone full one with Tete at right back nowadays just think with all the injuries his not built for a long season anymore.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 01:34:23 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 22, 2025, 01:12:04 PMWhy do we need to spend big on a replacement for Tete when we already have Timmy C available?  I knw his form dropped off a bit but he was playing through an injury in order to cover for the injured Tete. When he's fully fit Castagne is surely a more than adequate starter at RB? Obviously we will now need to sign a new RB, but I would like to see a youngster with real promise who we can develop for a season or two as cover for Castagne.

This is how I see it. He's won the FA Cup and is a regular Belgian international.  We don't need to panic with this one.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: St Eve on June 22, 2025, 01:46:21 PM
Let's all be honest. He is a big loss for us and a big win for Everton. Had he stayed we would have all been happy. We don't know the details but I am sure we did what we could to keep him. Money and/or length of contract was the determining factor. Castagne is a decent replacement so be need to panic
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: FFC1987 on June 22, 2025, 01:52:23 PM
Whilst I like Castagne, if we revert to him as our no.1 full back with a rotation full back as the player in, I think we're weaker as a result in that area of the pitch. But that's just my opinion. That's more of a credit to Tete than a slight to Castagne though.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: St Eve on June 22, 2025, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 22, 2025, 01:52:23 PMWhilst I like Castagne, if we revert to him as our no.1 full back with a rotation full back as the player in, I think we're weaker as a result in that area of the pitch. But that's just my opinion. That's more of a credit to Tete than a slight to Castagne though.
Don't disagree. Of course Palhinha would help
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Sgt Fulham on June 22, 2025, 02:14:26 PM
Wtf not happy at all with this. When he's on it, and he often is, he's the best RB I've seen play for Fulham.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: FFC1987 on June 22, 2025, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: St Eve on June 22, 2025, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on June 22, 2025, 01:52:23 PMWhilst I like Castagne, if we revert to him as our no.1 full back with a rotation full back as the player in, I think we're weaker as a result in that area of the pitch. But that's just my opinion. That's more of a credit to Tete than a slight to Castagne though.
Don't disagree. Of course Palhinha would help

Oh for sure, I'm just talking specifically about the full back position. Maybe Silva doesn't phased by it and thinks we need more athleticism rather than an out and out defender like Tete but hard to see really.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on June 22, 2025, 02:15:33 PM
I like Kene Tete, however, he is 30 this October, and people are forgetting that he missed 19 games for us last season, and a good chunk the season before.

The Club did offer him a good deal to stay, 2yrs and a considerable wage increase, however, Everton came in with 3yrs and almost doubled our new wage offer.

If you look at it from the Clubs perspective, it is a position that we need to reduce the age bracket in, and if anyone is going to play second fiddle to a main RB, then that's most likely going to be Castange who's contract runs until 2027.

I've had it on good authority, that Silva is looking for a more attacking RB to change our system a bit, so this may also be why Tete wanted to go, because he'll get game time at Everton, if he keeps fit.

Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Angus Telford on June 22, 2025, 02:18:50 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on June 22, 2025, 01:28:59 PMWe were going to have to bring in a new right back sooner than later and this will just hasten the process. I don't think you get half a season let alone full one with Tete at right back nowadays just think with all the injuries his not built for a long season anymore.

This is the only justification / mitigation I can think of.

We're weaker without him (Castagne is much worse defensively) and a younger replacement of the same quality will cost £20m minimum. You could even argue someone of that quality is out of our reach in their prime. So it seems mad to let him go to a rival for the sake of say £20k per week (£1m).

However yes, he was getting on a bit and couldn't be relied on for a full season anymore, so wasn't a long-term solution anyway. I guess we thought it better to bite the bullet now.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on June 22, 2025, 02:20:55 PM
Quote from: Bal_13 on June 22, 2025, 12:18:03 PMReally disappointing if true.

I'm going to guess that Everton gave Kenny the big sell on their new stadium and subsequent project and probably gave him a longer more lucrative contract with maybe more assurances on playing time.

Not great. Let's hope we get Bellanova or someone of similar quality. 

We offered 2yrs, Everton offered 3yrs. We offered a decent wage increase, Everton almost offered almost double that.

Tete missed 19 games last season, and as good as he is, he's also injury prone, which I felt hampered us a bit last season, as we was to reliant on meat and potatoes Castange.

I have it on good authority, that a new attacking RB is high on Silva's shopping list this summer, and this is probably why Tete took Everton's offer, as he doesn't want to play second fiddle, which is fair enough.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: jayffc on June 22, 2025, 02:22:25 PM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on June 22, 2025, 02:15:33 PMI like Kene Tete, however, he is 30 this October, and people are forgetting that he missed 19 games for us last season, and a good chunk the season before.

The Club did offer him a good deal to stay, 2yrs and a considerable wage increase, however, Everton came in with 3yrs and almost doubled our new wage offer.

If you look at it from the Clubs perspective, it is a position that we need to reduce the age bracket in, and if anyone is going to play second fiddle to a main RB, then that's most likely going to be Castange who's contract runs until 2027.

I've had it on good authority, that Silva is looking for a more attacking RB to change our system a bit, so this may also be why Tete wanted to go, because he'll get game time at Everton, if he keeps fit.



Absolutely gutted losing Tete but looks like he's taken a final big payout coming towards end of his career. Will hate seeing him play us in an Everton shirt.

Such a beast defensively and a key part in us picking up victories against big teams such is his dominance in defence.

But that said, he was always going to move on eventually and if what you say is true them it makes sense. We don't have the same level of attacking threat on our right side as Robinson which often leaves us very lop sided and predictable at times.

Bellanova would have me dreaming but a punt on Van Ewijk would also tickle my fancy. Coufal we be an underwhelming stop gap, Kyle walker a much more acceptable one for a year or 2
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Angus Telford on June 22, 2025, 02:29:43 PM
Kyle Walker is 35 and will want at least the same wages Tete was asking for. That would make no sense.

Only rational option is a young, high quality, big fee / marquee signing in this position now.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Tabby on June 22, 2025, 02:30:40 PM
The way I see it we are either going to take a punt on someone like Tete when we signed him, KWP/Osayi Samuel on a free or a statement signing like Bellanova.

Would be very disappointed if we end up with Coufal.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: HV71 on June 22, 2025, 02:45:39 PM
I am just gutted. Tete is a really good full back and loves a tackle. Decent crosser of the ball as well. Everton's gain our loss. Would have much preferred the club to have offered him a new contract a year ago - with the proviso that if he didn't sign we would put him up for sale. That way we would have at least received a fee. This way we get F all and a huge gap .
Love Tim  but we are now weaker.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: KentFulham on June 22, 2025, 04:47:30 PM
Leaves us weaker for sure, total mismanagement from the club, we now have TC who is average, good going forward but woeful at the back and gets caught out easily.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: cookieg on June 22, 2025, 05:11:24 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on June 22, 2025, 04:47:30 PMLeaves us weaker for sure, total mismanagement from the club, we now have TC who is average, good going forward but woeful at the back and gets caught out easily.

The club offered him a new deal and he chose not to accept it. Would you prefer we threw loads of money at him to keep him when he may only play 50% of this seasons games? Or look to bring in a younger player to bring through?
Title: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: C Block on June 22, 2025, 06:14:04 PM
Firstly as a business we must stop losing sellable assets for nothing,we keep doing it and it has to stop,
So then what should we be doing differently, well for me when last season (23/24) finished Kenny and his agent should have been invited in for a chat before he went away on holiday and have it explained to him that we want to offer him a new contract on improved terms,BUT you spell it out to him that he has until June 30th to sign it and if he doesn't then we will very publicly putting him up for sale on July 1st,
This is exactly what Crystal Palace are currently doing with Marc Guehi, one year to go won't sign a new contract so they are selling now,
If we had only got £5 million last summer it's still better than nothing,
My fear is that on July 1st we also lose Josh King and Seth Ridgeon for nothing.
Now I must add that neither myself or anyone else knows whether Marco wanted to keep Kenny or not, but surely the answer would have been exactly the same 12 months ago so why not try and raise some money.
I like Kenny and I think we look a better side with him in it.
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: Lighthouse on June 22, 2025, 06:19:52 PM
We have no idea what was said, how it was done or why. What goes on behind the scenes is really an unknown quantity. I am sure we would have all done it differently and been successful. But different from what? Did Fulham sit Tete down for a picnic and some quavers and a nice cup of tea. Talk to him gently and softly. Have a few maids sit and stroke his forehead and promise him good times.

All the speculation is just that. His injury record may have simply made him want to move on. Sometimes we would all like a change.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: KentFulham on June 22, 2025, 06:23:03 PM
Quote from: cookieg on June 22, 2025, 05:11:24 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on June 22, 2025, 04:47:30 PMLeaves us weaker for sure, total mismanagement from the club, we now have TC who is average, good going forward but woeful at the back and gets caught out easily.

The club offered him a new deal and he chose not to accept it. Would you prefer we threw loads of money at him to keep him when he may only play 50% of this seasons games? Or look to bring in a younger player to bring through?

I could work with either option, Fulham play too often on the short term and making do.We couldn't keep him because we were not long term and decisive, and then we will likely fall back on Castange and maybe some old has been on a free.

If we want a decent up and coming 20yo then that's what they should have gone for and off loaded Tete, we appear to be a bit hesitant as a club to make a decision and let situations drag on
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: KentFulham on June 22, 2025, 06:26:59 PM
Completely agree - The club struggles to make sound decisions in a timely manner, instead letting situations drag out. Next comes the transfer of some has been as back up to Castange rather than a decent RB
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: perry geyton on June 22, 2025, 06:28:42 PM
Great defender, I'll miss his sliding tackles but far to injury prone, he's always out for half the season with some kind of injury,
I'll miss him in general but life goes on
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: perry geyton on June 22, 2025, 06:30:24 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on June 22, 2025, 04:47:30 PMLeaves us weaker for sure, total mismanagement from the club, we now have TC who is average, good going forward but woeful at the back and gets caught out easily.
What's TC got to do with Kenny Tete ? Not sure how he got dragged into this conversation
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:31:37 PM
If we had sold him for £5m last season people on here would have shat themselves in blind fury.
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: KentFulham on June 22, 2025, 06:35:19 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:31:37 PMIf we had sold him for £5m last season people on here would have shat themselves in blind fury.

Why thou, had we have sold him and put a plan in for a better replacement then we would be in a good position
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:39:57 PM
Oh come on. You can't imagine the level of meltdown?  £5m?

There won't be a better replacement coming anyway because we don't need one.  Expect a KWP type to come in on a free as back up, we don't need to improve this position as much as we do others.

Sure it sucks that he is gone but nobody knows why, nobody knows what has happened and nobody knows what was offered or when it was offered and so to start digging the club out for possibly not doing something that may or may not have had an effect a year ago is quite frankly, ridiculous.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: HV71 on June 22, 2025, 06:40:13 PM
Think he is referring to Timothy Castagne
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:41:42 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on June 22, 2025, 06:30:24 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on June 22, 2025, 04:47:30 PMLeaves us weaker for sure, total mismanagement from the club, we now have TC who is average, good going forward but woeful at the back and gets caught out easily.
What's TC got to do with Kenny Tete ? Not sure how he got dragged into this conversation

Haha! I thought he meant Captain Tom too.  :slap:
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: hopper on June 22, 2025, 06:43:18 PM
Completely agree that we need to have these conversations with players before contracts run out.

Why create a new thread rather than post it in the other? Just means two different threads simultaneously discussing the same thing.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: FFC1987 on June 22, 2025, 06:45:27 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:41:42 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on June 22, 2025, 06:30:24 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on June 22, 2025, 04:47:30 PMLeaves us weaker for sure, total mismanagement from the club, we now have TC who is average, good going forward but woeful at the back and gets caught out easily.
What's TC got to do with Kenny Tete ? Not sure how he got dragged into this conversation

Haha! I thought he meant Captain Tom too.  :slap:

Like inception Fulham transfer squad news this!  :slap:
Title: Re: Tete to Everton got the "Here we go"
Post by: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:45:50 PM
 :slap:
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: HV71 on June 22, 2025, 06:47:21 PM
Sorry Somerset but it is hardly " ridiculous " to suggest that the club had options on how they acted a year a go. I fully respect that it is their call - but they did have a choice. Liverpool could have done the same with Trent - but chose not to 
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:49:24 PM
But that is what I mean H.  We don't know that they didn't have these conversations last year. Or at least try to?

We just don't know.
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: HV71 on June 22, 2025, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:49:24 PMBut that is what I mean H.  We don't know that they didn't have these conversations last year. Or at least try to?

We just don't know.

Understood- however if he was offered what we believed to be a good deal and he refused we could have publicly announced he was up for sale and we were open to offers. May not have worked but an option nonetheless
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: jayffc on June 22, 2025, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:49:24 PMBut that is what I mean H.  We don't know that they didn't have these conversations last year. Or at least try to?

We just don't know.

Agreed , people have literally zero idea what did or didnt happen and when, so they pick the one that fits what they want to do .... Dig out the club or be positive about them.

Not worth either speculation to any extreme. we said we wanted to keep him, for whatever reason the 2 parties havent come to terms better than what Everton are offering, on we go.
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:59:09 PM
I can't guarantee it because it is impossible to guarantee but if we had sold him last summer for next to nothing there would have been protests.  :slap:
Title: Re: My tuppence worth on Kenny Tete.
Post by: Drewry66 on June 22, 2025, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:49:24 PMBut that is what I mean H.  We don't know that they didn't have these conversations last year. Or at least try to?

We just don't know.

This is the thing...we may well have done but if only a year left it is in a players interest to let his contract run down so that may well have been the case. If they do they know they go on a free and can demand a huge salary with no fee for the new club to pay. And to be fair to Tete if that has happened it's paid off with noises coming out that Everton are paying him double our offer at £130k a week! If we offered him a small bump to £65k a week last year he may well have thought no I'll just see what offer comes in next year for this reason.

There is also the point for someone like Tete with all the injury probs that we may have wanted to see how that went this year before committing.

Finally from what I remember he wasn't even first choice 23/24 so may not have been as keen to offer a longer deal at that point.

I think the early conversation is far more powerful two years or more before contract expiry (doubt we would have done that with Tete's injury risks). Think we sorted Robinsons extension with a longer time left and lucky we did. Why for me we desperately have to try and extend Muniz this summer. Big incentive for him to sign with two years left and a huge bump from what he's on. If we try next year he'll prob just wait a year and get a massive salary on a free at a big club. By all accounts we are trying with him now so fingers crossed. Think it all depends on the individual situation then.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Lighthouse on June 22, 2025, 07:44:36 PM
It has been reported that he was offered a new contract a year ago and better wages and didn't want to know. Not sure how true but this silly speculation that Fulham should have done something earlier is just that. Speculation.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Jules on June 22, 2025, 08:10:12 PM
I like Tete, and he's been a good player for us in recent years, but if he goes its not the end of the world. Let's get someone younger in with some quality. Probably to start the season and compete with Castagne for the shirt. All the best to Kenny anyway.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Angus Telford on June 22, 2025, 08:20:56 PM
I highly doubt Everton are offering him £130k per week. Personally i reckon difference will be something like a £60k pw 2-year offer from us versus a £70k pw 3-year deal from them.

Funnily enough I don't mind us being firm on this and refusing offer a 30 year old sicknote a generous 3-year deal. The problem for me is we have these economic sinkholes throughout our team after 3-4 seasons of short-sighted transfer business. As discussed on the transfers thread, Bournemouth might lose a few players this summer but they'll get about £200m from those sales for reinvestment. In contrast we could now see Tete, AP,  Cairney and Reed moving on this summer and would probably get £10-15m for the lot.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Coastwalker on June 22, 2025, 09:07:58 PM
We offered him a three year deal,he has chosen to go to Everton.
And That's That.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: alfie on June 22, 2025, 09:11:28 PM
Posted ok sky sports news

Fulham offered Tete three-year deal
Latest from Sky Sports News' Alan Myers, Dharmesh Sheth & Adrian Kajumba:
Sky Sports News understands Kenny Tete was offered a three-year contract by Fulham.
He rejected it in favour of a  likely move to Everton.
Everton are in discussions to sign Tete - however there is still work to do before a deal is complete. 
Tete will become a free agent after his Fulham contract expires at the end of June.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Drewry66 on June 22, 2025, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 22, 2025, 09:11:28 PMPosted ok sky sports news

Fulham offered Tete three-year deal
Latest from Sky Sports News' Alan Myers, Dharmesh Sheth & Adrian Kajumba:
Sky Sports News understands Kenny Tete was offered a three-year contract by Fulham.
He rejected it in favour of a  likely move to Everton.
Everton are in discussions to sign Tete - however there is still work to do before a deal is complete. 
Tete will become a free agent after his Fulham contract expires at the end of June.

So if Sky are correct must have been purely down to them offering more money as he had said end of the season he wanted to stay.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: deadcowboys on June 22, 2025, 09:23:39 PM
Quote from: Drewry66 on June 22, 2025, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 22, 2025, 09:11:28 PMPosted ok sky sports news

Fulham offered Tete three-year deal
Latest from Sky Sports News' Alan Myers, Dharmesh Sheth & Adrian Kajumba:
Sky Sports News understands Kenny Tete was offered a three-year contract by Fulham.
He rejected it in favour of a  likely move to Everton.
Everton are in discussions to sign Tete - however there is still work to do before a deal is complete. 
Tete will become a free agent after his Fulham contract expires at the end of June.

So if Sky are correct must have been purely down to them offering more money as he had said end of the season he wanted to stay.

Replacing his hubcaps every week will no doubt account for the salary increase.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: jayffc on June 22, 2025, 09:38:54 PM
Quote from: Drewry66 on June 22, 2025, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 22, 2025, 09:11:28 PMPosted ok sky sports news

Fulham offered Tete three-year deal
Latest from Sky Sports News' Alan Myers, Dharmesh Sheth & Adrian Kajumba:
Sky Sports News understands Kenny Tete was offered a three-year contract by Fulham.
He rejected it in favour of a  likely move to Everton.
Everton are in discussions to sign Tete - however there is still work to do before a deal is complete. 
Tete will become a free agent after his Fulham contract expires at the end of June.

So if Sky are correct must have been purely down to them offering more money as he had said end of the season he wanted to stay.

In which case would a footballer like Tete really uphaul his life for a small extra amount per week?

Logic suggests it's a significant hike on what we've offered to move to everton. We appear by all rumours to have been exploring our options so hopefully are standing firm because we believe there are good alternative options out there.

Real shame if he does move on as he's been a rock (when available) but all good things come to an end.

One thing to note is it's not signed off yet, so I suppose also possible of course that his agent is using this to get the deal he wants at Fulham. We shall see
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Drewry66 on June 22, 2025, 09:47:28 PM
Quote from: jayffc on June 22, 2025, 09:38:54 PM
Quote from: Drewry66 on June 22, 2025, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 22, 2025, 09:11:28 PMPosted ok sky sports news

Fulham offered Tete three-year deal
Latest from Sky Sports News' Alan Myers, Dharmesh Sheth & Adrian Kajumba:
Sky Sports News understands Kenny Tete was offered a three-year contract by Fulham.
He rejected it in favour of a  likely move to Everton.
Everton are in discussions to sign Tete - however there is still work to do before a deal is complete. 
Tete will become a free agent after his Fulham contract expires at the end of June.

So if Sky are correct must have been purely down to them offering more money as he had said end of the season he wanted to stay.

In which case would a footballer like Tete really uphaul his life for a small extra amount per week?

Logic suggests it's a significant hike on what we've offered to move to everton. We appear by all rumours to have been exploring our options so hopefully are standing firm because we believe there are good alternative options out there.

Real shame if he does move on as he's been a rock (when available) but all good things come to an end.

Yeah I suspect the uplift vs what we offered is pretty significant. Plenty of rumours saying double our offer. Who knows if true but imagine significant and if so glad we've stood firm as long as we have a good replacement lined up as cant just offer limitless wages. Surprising from an Everton point of view as they have just released a tonne of old players on ridiculous wages which has stuffed them for years for FFP. Not learning then if correct. Just frustrating they have come in as if they hasn't he may well have accepted our offer as may have been the best one out there for him.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Surlyc on June 22, 2025, 10:40:57 PM
Disappointing news, as Tete has been very good for us. However he was often injured and this does give us an excellent chance to get younger.

Castagne is perfectly capable of starting the season for us, while a new signing gets up to speed.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: SuffolkWhite on June 22, 2025, 11:47:34 PM
I like Tete a lot, watched him tame the Chelski wingers a few seasons back at the Bridge.....he was brilliant,but, he has had a few injuries since then and if he stays (at 30) he wouldn't be worth a 3 year contract imo. Shame he's going but I can see some sense in it.

At the end of the day, with any players at Fulham and there contract situation, who really knows the truth, I know I don't!
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: The Little Dave on June 23, 2025, 12:50:49 AM
Quote from: Angus Telford on June 22, 2025, 08:20:56 PMI highly doubt Everton are offering him £130k per week. Personally i reckon difference will be something like a £60k pw 2-year offer from us versus a £70k pw 3-year deal from them.

Funnily enough I don't mind us being firm on this and refusing offer a 30 year old sicknote a generous 3-year deal. The problem for me is we have these economic sinkholes throughout our team after 3-4 seasons of short-sighted transfer business. As discussed on the transfers thread, Bournemouth might lose a few players this summer but they'll get about £200m from those sales for reinvestment. In contrast we could now see Tete, AP,  Cairney and Reed moving on this summer and would probably get £10-15m for the lot.

I get where you're coming from, it's frustrating to see us potentially lose experienced players like Tete, Cairney, Reed, and AP with very little return. But I'd push back on the idea that Bournemouth's model is inherently better or more sustainable.

Yes, Bournemouth might bring in £150–200m this summer. But that's only because they took on significant upfront financial risk, buying young, unproven players like Kerkez, Semenyo, Zabarnyi, and billing them as "sellable assets." That model works when recruitment hits, but if it doesn't? You're left with a disconnected squad of players with resale value on paper but little cohesion or Premier League survival experience, ask Southampton how that story ends.

Fulham's approach may seem lazy, even dull at times, but it's grounded in squad continuity, dressing-room leadership, and PL stability. Keeping players like Cairney or Reed past their resale peak is a trade-off for reliability. We've avoided relegation and stayed competitive without massive squad churn every summer. That matters.

Could we do better in contract management and timing of sales? Definitely. But there's a big difference between failing to extract maximum value from loyal players and gambling your club's stability on every transfer window. Bournemouth's current profit is the result of a narrow, high-stakes strategy. If just one or two of those signings flopped, we'd be calling it reckless.

Fulham may not top the "net spend" charts, but we're a club with an identity, a spine, and a balanced wage structure. In the long run, that gives us a platform to build sustainably, not just profitably.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: WolverineFFC on June 23, 2025, 02:18:36 AM
1) Big fan of Tete. The club are undoubtedly worse off next season without him. Whether that will still be the case in yr 2 or 3 of his deal is another story.

2) With Tim C in the fold, feels like a great opportunity to bring in a younger option who can grow into a starter's role. Someone like Van Ewijk would be exciting.

3) Whoever the club bring in needs pace. Without Kenny I worry about the right side defensively against faster wingers. I'm sure the leg injury hampered Castagne, but a pairing of him and Andersen with someone like Wilson on the same wing will have defensive issues for pace.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on June 23, 2025, 08:56:21 AM
If Tete's departure was not simply down to being a free agent how much would he be worth in the transfer market? £5 £10 million ?

Everton may not be offering much more in salary and length of contract but I expect the transfer fee they are saving will partly be going in Tete's pocket (and his agent) therefore maximizing his worth in his last big mo

Is a club like Fulham expected to pay a signing on fee to a player they want to keep when their contract ends?
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: EN1 FFC on June 23, 2025, 09:29:04 AM
Quote from: Jules on June 22, 2025, 08:10:12 PMI like Tete, and he's been a good player for us in recent years, but if he goes its not the end of the world. Let's get someone younger in with some quality. Probably to start the season and compete with Castagne for the shirt. All the best to Kenny anyway.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on June 22, 2025, 11:47:34 PMI like Tete a lot, watched him tame the Chelski wingers a few seasons back at the Bridge.....he was brilliant,but, he has had a few injuries since then and if he stays (at 30) he wouldn't be worth a 3 year contract imo. Shame he's going but I can see some sense in it.

At the end of the day, with any players at Fulham and there contract situation, who really knows the truth, I know I don't!
I always think that when players run down their contracts their agents have had an influence in talking them into a free move as the no transfer fee works on them getting a good lump sum signing on fee that we can't match. We had the same with Fredricks going to West Ham and we know how well that went for him.
We'll definitely miss Tete as he's up there with being one of the best right backs.

I think Castagne is a less defensive right back and teams do target his side of the pitch, most of our right sided players in front of him don't have good defensive tracking back qualities and Andersen isn't the quickest.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: JimmyConway on June 23, 2025, 10:11:49 AM
Quote from: EN1 FFC on June 23, 2025, 09:29:04 AM
Quote from: Jules on June 22, 2025, 08:10:12 PMI like Tete, and he's been a good player for us in recent years, but if he goes its not the end of the world. Let's get someone younger in with some quality. Probably to start the season and compete with Castagne for the shirt. All the best to Kenny anyway.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on June 22, 2025, 11:47:34 PMI like Tete a lot, watched him tame the Chelski wingers a few seasons back at the Bridge.....he was brilliant,but, he has had a few injuries since then and if he stays (at 30) he wouldn't be worth a 3 year contract imo. Shame he's going but I can see some sense in it.

At the end of the day, with any players at Fulham and there contract situation, who really knows the truth, I know I don't!
I always think that when players run down their contracts their agents have had an influence in talking them into a free move as the no transfer fee works on them getting a good lump sum signing on fee that we can't match. We had the same with Fredricks going to West Ham and we know how well that went for him.
We'll definitely miss Tete as he's up there with being one of the best right backs.

I think Castagne is a less defensive right back and teams do target his side of the pitch, most of our right sided players in front of him don't have good defensive tracking back qualities and Andersen isn't the quickest.
Whether it's a 30 year old right back with an injury record or an upcoming youngster out of contract or running it down it's stacked heavily in the said player and his agents favour. Clubs looking to not pay a transfer fee but will compensate with signing on fee let alone higher wages from bigger teams than Fulham. Interested team/s instruct agent/s that client should not sign any new or extension contract offered and would of already dangled the carrot in financial benefit/s. We are probably as guilty as the rest in these situations. Difficult for fans to digest but whether it's a favourite player or another Elliot - Carvalho - Roberts etc it will continue.
Tete I am surprised to the point that he might have been settled? Had he gone to Europe yes can see why but a move to Lancashire okay a bigger team but also a struggling team who are not going to turn into world beaters in the next year or two even with a good manager? We shall see but as I said earlier in this thread I don't think his got anywhere near a full season in him physically.     
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: JimmyConway on June 23, 2025, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: JimmyConway on June 23, 2025, 10:11:49 AM
Quote from: EN1 FFC on June 23, 2025, 09:29:04 AM
Quote from: Jules on June 22, 2025, 08:10:12 PMI like Tete, and he's been a good player for us in recent years, but if he goes its not the end of the world. Let's get someone younger in with some quality. Probably to start the season and compete with Castagne for the shirt. All the best to Kenny anyway.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on June 22, 2025, 11:47:34 PMI like Tete a lot, watched him tame the Chelski wingers a few seasons back at the Bridge.....he was brilliant,but, he has had a few injuries since then and if he stays (at 30) he wouldn't be worth a 3 year contract imo. Shame he's going but I can see some sense in it.

At the end of the day, with any players at Fulham and there contract situation, who really knows the truth, I know I don't!
I always think that when players run down their contracts their agents have had an influence in talking them into a free move as the no transfer fee works on them getting a good lump sum signing on fee that we can't match. We had the same with Fredricks going to West Ham and we know how well that went for him.
We'll definitely miss Tete as he's up there with being one of the best right backs.

I think Castagne is a less defensive right back and teams do target his side of the pitch, most of our right sided players in front of him don't have good defensive tracking back qualities and Andersen isn't the quickest.
Whether it's a 30 year old right back with an injury record or an upcoming youngster out of contract or running it down it's stacked heavily in the said player and his agents favour. Clubs looking to not pay a transfer fee but will compensate with signing on fee let alone higher wages from bigger teams than Fulham. Interested team/s instruct agent/s that client should not sign any new or extension contract offered and would of already dangled the carrot in financial benefit/s. We are probably as guilty as the rest in these situations. Difficult for fans to digest but whether it's a favourite player or another Elliot - Carvalho - Roberts etc it will continue.
Tete I am surprised to the point that he might have been settled? Had he gone to Europe yes can see why but a move to Lancashire okay a bigger team but also a struggling team who are not going to turn into world beaters in the next year or two even with a good manager? We shall see but as I said earlier in this thread I don't think his got anywhere near a full season in him physically.     
Meant to add it can only be financial for Tete to leave nothing else adds up?
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Angus Telford on June 23, 2025, 11:09:16 AM
Quote from: The Little Dave on June 23, 2025, 12:50:49 AMI get where you're coming from, it's frustrating to see us potentially lose experienced players like Tete, Cairney, Reed, and AP with very little return. But I'd push back on the idea that Bournemouth's model is inherently better or more sustainable.

Yes, Bournemouth might bring in £150–200m this summer. But that's only because they took on significant upfront financial risk, buying young, unproven players like Kerkez, Semenyo, Zabarnyi, and billing them as "sellable assets." That model works when recruitment hits, but if it doesn't? You're left with a disconnected squad of players with resale value on paper but little cohesion or Premier League survival experience, ask Southampton how that story ends.

Fulham's approach may seem lazy, even dull at times, but it's grounded in squad continuity, dressing-room leadership, and PL stability. Keeping players like Cairney or Reed past their resale peak is a trade-off for reliability. We've avoided relegation and stayed competitive without massive squad churn every summer. That matters.

Could we do better in contract management and timing of sales? Definitely. But there's a big difference between failing to extract maximum value from loyal players and gambling your club's stability on every transfer window. Bournemouth's current profit is the result of a narrow, high-stakes strategy. If just one or two of those signings flopped, we'd be calling it reckless.

Fulham may not top the "net spend" charts, but we're a club with an identity, a spine, and a balanced wage structure. In the long run, that gives us a platform to build sustainably, not just profitably.

You aren't wrong about the relative merits of our strategy, but you've basically described the economic/transfer strategy equivalent of Parkerball.

By sticking to low risk, established, mature players, we won't get any significant ROI, but we also won't see much money thrown down the drain. A 0-0 draw, in other words.

On the pitch, we won't progress or make Europe, but we also won't regress and get relegated. Safe in 12/13th every year.

Now, if we lack the scouting talent and general competence to be more ambitious without cocking it up, I agree we should stick to this uber-safe Parker-style approach - and actually, looking at our DOF and scouting personnel, that probably is indeed the case.

I guess my argument is that I'd like to see us build a scouting/DOF team that are capable of buying the right balance of proven/unproven players and players who, more often than not, aren't flops.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Surlyc on June 23, 2025, 11:23:29 AM
Hopefully this sharpens the club up on tying down Muniz/Sessegnon/Wilson/Bassey this summer, as well as giving Josh King a new deal with (genuine) promises of minutes this season.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Willham on June 23, 2025, 01:07:10 PM
Love Tete, actually argued he's one of the best RB in the prem defensively.

I will solely miss him,

However, it looks like Marco prefers a more attacking full back which is why I thought castagne got the nod during that period. At the time it looked like he gave a bit more attacking threat. One i think wasn't evident on the pitch and the two of them are kinda par.

So this gives us a chance. Let's try and find another robinson. We know that castagne will do a job so we don't need to go all out but find someone who will progress and that's fantastic.

If we can find another RB who keeps players like salah quiet and also provides 8+ assists then we're on a 'right' winner
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: The Little Dave on June 23, 2025, 01:17:55 PM
Quote from: Angus Telford on June 23, 2025, 11:09:16 AM
Quote from: The Little Dave on June 23, 2025, 12:50:49 AMI get where you're coming from, it's frustrating to see us potentially lose experienced players like Tete, Cairney, Reed, and AP with very little return. But I'd push back on the idea that Bournemouth's model is inherently better or more sustainable.

Yes, Bournemouth might bring in £150–200m this summer. But that's only because they took on significant upfront financial risk, buying young, unproven players like Kerkez, Semenyo, Zabarnyi, and billing them as "sellable assets." That model works when recruitment hits, but if it doesn't? You're left with a disconnected squad of players with resale value on paper but little cohesion or Premier League survival experience, ask Southampton how that story ends.

Fulham's approach may seem lazy, even dull at times, but it's grounded in squad continuity, dressing-room leadership, and PL stability. Keeping players like Cairney or Reed past their resale peak is a trade-off for reliability. We've avoided relegation and stayed competitive without massive squad churn every summer. That matters.

Could we do better in contract management and timing of sales? Definitely. But there's a big difference between failing to extract maximum value from loyal players and gambling your club's stability on every transfer window. Bournemouth's current profit is the result of a narrow, high-stakes strategy. If just one or two of those signings flopped, we'd be calling it reckless.

Fulham may not top the "net spend" charts, but we're a club with an identity, a spine, and a balanced wage structure. In the long run, that gives us a platform to build sustainably, not just profitably.

You aren't wrong about the relative merits of our strategy, but you've basically described the economic/transfer strategy equivalent of Parkerball.

By sticking to low risk, established, mature players, we won't get any significant ROI, but we also won't see much money thrown down the drain. A 0-0 draw, in other words.

On the pitch, we won't progress or make Europe, but we also won't regress and get relegated. Safe in 12/13th every year.

Now, if we lack the scouting talent and general competence to be more ambitious without cocking it up, I agree we should stick to this uber-safe Parker-style approach - and actually, looking at our DOF and scouting personnel, that probably is indeed the case.

I guess my argument is that I'd like to see us build a scouting/DOF team that are capable of buying the right balance of proven/unproven players and players who, more often than not, aren't flops.

That's actually a really sharp way to put it, I like the "Parkerball" analogy applied to our transfer strategy. You're right it is been about risk limitation above all else.

And to be honest, given where we've been post-promotion, yo-yoing for years, burning cash, a period of consolidation and stability wasn't a bad outcome. In fact, it might have saved us from becoming another West Brom or Sunderland. But I completely agree that this should not be the long-term ceiling, which it may very well become if we don't move the needle on our scouting/transfers bizz.

The question now is, how do we evolve from this safe strategy without abandoning the foundations? Because you nailed it, it's not just about being "better" in the market; it's about having the infrastructure and personnel to back it up. You can't copy Bournemouth or Brighton without the scouting horsepower and internal clarity to make it work. Otherwise, you end up with a bloated squad of flops and another "rebuild" every 18 months.

We don't need to throw the whole thing out. But we do need a more modern sporting structure that lets us take calculated risks. 1–2 younger, high-upside players each summer alongside the established pros. That way, we build squad value and keep the floor high.


Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: H4usuallysitting on June 23, 2025, 02:29:13 PM
I've just had a look....Tete has been injured for around 72 games since his arrival with us
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: perry geyton on June 23, 2025, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: Drewry66 on June 22, 2025, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:49:24 PMBut that is what I mean H.  We don't know that they didn't have these conversations last year. Or at least try to?

We just don't know.

This is the thing...we may well have done but if only a year left it is in a players interest to let his contract run down so that may well have been the case. If they do they know they go on a free and can demand a huge salary with no fee for the new club to pay. And to be fair to Tete if that has happened it's paid off with noises coming out that Everton are paying him double our offer at £130k a week! If we offered him a small bump to £65k a week last year he may well have thought no I'll just see what offer comes in next year for this reason.

There is also the point for someone like Tete with all the injury probs that we may have wanted to see how that went this year before committing.

Finally from what I remember he wasn't even first choice 23/24 so may not have been as keen to offer a longer deal at that point.

I think the early conversation is far more powerful two years or more before contract expiry (doubt we would have done that with Tete's injury risks). Think we sorted Robinsons extension with a longer time left and lucky we did. Why for me we desperately have to try and extend Muniz this summer. Big incentive for him to sign with two years left and a huge bump from what he's on. If we try next year he'll prob just wait a year and get a massive salary on a free at a big club. By all accounts we are trying with him now so fingers crossed. Think it all depends on the individual situation then.
Absolutely
and 130K  that's mental if true for a semi sick note
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: perry geyton on June 23, 2025, 09:24:16 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on June 23, 2025, 02:29:13 PMI've just had a look....Tete has been injured for around 72 games since his arrival with us
That's almost 2 seasons worth of games, consistency has always been his issue,
He's getting older too so maybe was time to move on
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: The Little Dave on June 24, 2025, 09:58:52 PM
Fulham have gone back in with an improved offer.

 June 24, 2025 (https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1937601136929714252?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Southcoastffc on June 24, 2025, 11:28:25 PM
If Kenny goes (and I'd prefer him not to) we really should not overlook what great work Castagne did for us last season whilst carrying significant injury.  From memory, Marco suggested Castagne would not be ready for pre season and that is a concern.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Bassey the warrior on June 25, 2025, 06:25:54 AM
Quote from: The Little Dave on June 24, 2025, 09:58:52 PMFulham have gone back in with an improved offer.

 June 24, 2025 (https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1937601136929714252?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Fingers crossed he re-signs
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Twig on June 25, 2025, 08:04:05 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on June 24, 2025, 11:28:25 PMIf Kenny goes (and I'd prefer him not to) we really should not overlook what great work Castagne did for us last season whilst carrying significant injury.  From memory, Marco suggested Castagne would not be ready for pre season and that is a concern.

I've been saying this same thing. And before Timmy picked up a niggling injury he was in excellent form. Frankly, much as I like Kenny, there has to be a limit on what we pay for an injury prone 30 year old. Especially when his time lost to injury may get worse as he gets older.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on June 25, 2025, 11:46:04 AM
Quote from: perry geyton on June 23, 2025, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: Drewry66 on June 22, 2025, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:49:24 PMBut that is what I mean H.  We don't know that they didn't have these conversations last year. Or at least try to?

We just don't know.

This is the thing...we may well have done but if only a year left it is in a players interest to let his contract run down so that may well have been the case. If they do they know they go on a free and can demand a huge salary with no fee for the new club to pay. And to be fair to Tete if that has happened it's paid off with noises coming out that Everton are paying him double our offer at £130k a week! If we offered him a small bump to £65k a week last year he may well have thought no I'll just see what offer comes in next year for this reason.

There is also the point for someone like Tete with all the injury probs that we may have wanted to see how that went this year before committing.

Finally from what I remember he wasn't even first choice 23/24 so may not have been as keen to offer a longer deal at that point.

I think the early conversation is far more powerful two years or more before contract expiry (doubt we would have done that with Tete's injury risks). Think we sorted Robinsons extension with a longer time left and lucky we did. Why for me we desperately have to try and extend Muniz this summer. Big incentive for him to sign with two years left and a huge bump from what he's on. If we try next year he'll prob just wait a year and get a massive salary on a free at a big club. By all accounts we are trying with him now so fingers crossed. Think it all depends on the individual situation then.


Absolutely
and 130K  that's mental if true for a semi sick note


Not really if you consider him worth £10 and that's spread over the 3 years of his contract in addition to his salary.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: alfie on June 25, 2025, 12:00:39 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on June 25, 2025, 11:46:04 AM
Quote from: perry geyton on June 23, 2025, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: Drewry66 on June 22, 2025, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:49:24 PMBut that is what I mean H.  We don't know that they didn't have these conversations last year. Or at least try to?

We just don't know.

This is the thing...we may well have done but if only a year left it is in a players interest to let his contract run down so that may well have been the case. If they do they know they go on a free and can demand a huge salary with no fee for the new club to pay. And to be fair to Tete if that has happened it's paid off with noises coming out that Everton are paying him double our offer at £130k a week! If we offered him a small bump to £65k a week last year he may well have thought no I'll just see what offer comes in next year for this reason.

There is also the point for someone like Tete with all the injury probs that we may have wanted to see how that went this year before committing.

Finally from what I remember he wasn't even first choice 23/24 so may not have been as keen to offer a longer deal at that point.

I think the early conversation is far more powerful two years or more before contract expiry (doubt we would have done that with Tete's injury risks). Think we sorted Robinsons extension with a longer time left and lucky we did. Why for me we desperately have to try and extend Muniz this summer. Big incentive for him to sign with two years left and a huge bump from what he's on. If we try next year he'll prob just wait a year and get a massive salary on a free at a big club. By all accounts we are trying with him now so fingers crossed. Think it all depends on the individual situation then.


Absolutely
and 130K  that's mental if true for a semi sick note


Not really if you consider him worth £10 and that's spread over the 3 years of his contract in addition to his salary.

£10 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Colton F.C. on June 25, 2025, 12:21:04 PM
Quote from: Surlyc on June 22, 2025, 10:40:57 PMDisappointing news, as Tete has been very good for us. However he was often injured and this does give us an excellent chance to get younger.

Castagne is perfectly capable of starting the season for us, while a new signing gets up to speed.

What is the prognosis of Castagne's recovery?
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Willham on June 25, 2025, 12:23:39 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 25, 2025, 12:00:39 PM
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on June 25, 2025, 11:46:04 AM
Quote from: perry geyton on June 23, 2025, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: Drewry66 on June 22, 2025, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on June 22, 2025, 06:49:24 PMBut that is what I mean H.  We don't know that they didn't have these conversations last year. Or at least try to?

We just don't know.

This is the thing...we may well have done but if only a year left it is in a players interest to let his contract run down so that may well have been the case. If they do they know they go on a free and can demand a huge salary with no fee for the new club to pay. And to be fair to Tete if that has happened it's paid off with noises coming out that Everton are paying him double our offer at £130k a week! If we offered him a small bump to £65k a week last year he may well have thought no I'll just see what offer comes in next year for this reason.

There is also the point for someone like Tete with all the injury probs that we may have wanted to see how that went this year before committing.

Finally from what I remember he wasn't even first choice 23/24 so may not have been as keen to offer a longer deal at that point.

I think the early conversation is far more powerful two years or more before contract expiry (doubt we would have done that with Tete's injury risks). Think we sorted Robinsons extension with a longer time left and lucky we did. Why for me we desperately have to try and extend Muniz this summer. Big incentive for him to sign with two years left and a huge bump from what he's on. If we try next year he'll prob just wait a year and get a massive salary on a free at a big club. By all accounts we are trying with him now so fingers crossed. Think it all depends on the individual situation then.


Absolutely
and 130K  that's mental if true for a semi sick note


Not really if you consider him worth £10 and that's spread over the 3 years of his contract in addition to his salary.

£10 🤣🤣

£10 for 3 years equals a contract of £0.0641025641 a week but seen as though tete is so loyal, I'd be happy to round it up to an even 7p a week 😆

Edit: to add, 130,000 a week for 3 years equals £20,280,000.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Craven Mad on June 25, 2025, 01:07:58 PM
Sounds to me like he's planning to stay.

Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: JimmyConway on June 25, 2025, 02:33:53 PM
Hypothetical Right Back Scenario?

Would you want Tete to re-sign on a 3 year deal?
Take KWP on a free?
Sign Djed Spence let's say £10-£15m

Of the three options and taking everything into consideration of each player who would you sign?

Personally I would favour Spence.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: SerbianLad on June 25, 2025, 03:10:32 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on June 25, 2025, 02:33:53 PMSign Djed Spence let's say £10-£15m
I can't see him being available for such low fee. I'm not sure Spence is better than Tete in anyway apart from his age.

Tete for me definitely of those options you've listed. KWP the worst option. Not a fan of his at all.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: JimmyConway on June 25, 2025, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: SerbianLad on June 25, 2025, 03:10:32 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on June 25, 2025, 02:33:53 PMSign Djed Spence let's say £10-£15m
I can't see him being available for such low fee. I'm not sure Spence is better than Tete in anyway apart from his age.

Tete for me definitely of those options you've listed. KWP the worst option. Not a fan of his at all.
Being that it's Spurs and Levy you might be right. Wan Bissaka went to Westham for around £18m and he is better than Spence that was my line of thinking.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: FFC1987 on June 25, 2025, 03:14:26 PM
Quote from: SerbianLad on June 25, 2025, 03:10:32 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on June 25, 2025, 02:33:53 PMSign Djed Spence let's say £10-£15m
I can't see him being available for such low fee. I'm not sure Spence is better than Tete in anyway apart from his age.

Tete for me definitely of those options you've listed. KWP the worst option. Not a fan of his at all.

Literally zero chance Djed is available for that price so mute point really.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Bassey the warrior on June 25, 2025, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on June 25, 2025, 02:33:53 PMHypothetical Right Back Scenario?

Would you want Tete to re-sign on a 3 year deal?
Take KWP on a free?
Sign Djed Spence let's say £10-£15m

Of the three options and taking everything into consideration of each player who would you sign?

Personally I would favour Spence.

As mentioned by others Spence won't be available for that price. Personally I'd prioritise re-signing Tete. He's absolute quality and he was doing well this season before injury. Certainly losing him to a club like Everton would be a bitter pill.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: The Little Dave on June 25, 2025, 04:28:52 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 25, 2025, 01:07:58 PMSounds to me like he's planning to stay.

Fingers crossed.

Yeah used Everton to get a bit better deal, as long as we didn't go bananas then I'm good with it.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: alfie on June 25, 2025, 05:26:59 PM
Quote from: The Little Dave on June 25, 2025, 04:28:52 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 25, 2025, 01:07:58 PMSounds to me like he's planning to stay.

Fingers crossed.

Yeah used Everton to get a bit better deal, as long as we didn't go bananas then I'm good with it.
Equally he could be using us to get a better deal.

Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: The Little Dave on June 25, 2025, 05:47:52 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 25, 2025, 05:26:59 PM
Quote from: The Little Dave on June 25, 2025, 04:28:52 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on June 25, 2025, 01:07:58 PMSounds to me like he's planning to stay.

Fingers crossed.

Yeah used Everton to get a bit better deal, as long as we didn't go bananas then I'm good with it.
Equally he could be using us to get a better deal.



Not likely, it was reported that it was Tete's agent who leaked the Everton commitment, to create urgency at Fulham and drive a better deal. Leverage like this is a one-shot move. Doing it twice could easily kill the deal and burn a bridge, not smart, especially for a player leaving on a free.

Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: cookieg on June 25, 2025, 07:55:34 PM
If we've thrown a 3 year deal and a big pay rise to Tete that's a big mistake on the part of the club. If he wants to stay then no more than a 1 year deal for someone who is very injury prone. If he doesn't want to stay then he can go.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Twig on June 26, 2025, 08:23:39 AM
Quote from: cookieg on June 25, 2025, 07:55:34 PMIf we've thrown a 3 year deal and a big pay rise to Tete that's a big mistake on the part of the club. If he wants to stay then no more than a 1 year deal for someone who is very injury prone. If he doesn't want to stay then he can go.

Was his injury this year a recurrence? No. He's been unlucky with injuries but there's no reason to think this will continue. He's absolute quality and isn't reliant on sheer pace so should be good for the next three years. Giving Kenny a new contract saves us spending millions on a replacement (or cover for Timmy) so I can see the sense in it, although I would be happier with a 2 year contract with a further 1 year option.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Thailand Mick on June 26, 2025, 08:46:12 AM
We don't know what Tete has been offered, he was reported to be on 50k a week and over the 5 years he has missed about 2 years of games. The problem with giving him a high wage is that the other players like Wilson and Muniz will also want a high wage. Our wage bill to revenue is already too high at 85% which is causing us difficulty. After having some time to think about it I believe it would be best to let him leave as we have Castagne and sign someone on a lower wage. Unfortunately players these days are bleeding clubs dry with their demands and unless we can increase revenue significantly we are about at the top of our wage bill. Would be sorry to see him go but at some point you have to draw a line.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Bassey the warrior on June 26, 2025, 08:48:16 AM
I'm fully on board woth tieing Tete down for 3 years. He'd be expensive to replace, so this frees up budget for other more urgent areas to address.

Everton are under new ownership with a bigger transfer kitty, so they'll be gunning for a top half finish, just like us. Why strengthen a rival without getting any fee?
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: AJW48361 on June 27, 2025, 09:50:06 AM
Quote from: SerbianLad on June 25, 2025, 03:10:32 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on June 25, 2025, 02:33:53 PMSign Djed Spence let's say £10-£15m
I can't see him being available for such low fee. I'm not sure Spence is better than Tete in anyway apart from his age.

Tete for me definitely of those options you've listed. KWP the worst option. Not a fan of his at all.
Tete injuries apart is Excellent would look no further.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: The Little Dave on June 30, 2025, 06:01:08 PM
Seems about finished on our end

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1939691440101040501?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1939691440101040501?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Fulham Tup North on June 30, 2025, 06:24:55 PM
 ::scarf:: So did Tete's agent just use Everton as a prompt to get Fulham to pull their finger out??
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on June 30, 2025, 07:09:25 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on June 30, 2025, 06:24:55 PM::scarf:: So did Tete's agent just use Everton as a prompt to get Fulham to pull their finger out??

Of course he did, that's good business!
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: alfie on June 30, 2025, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on June 30, 2025, 06:24:55 PM::scarf:: So did Tete's agent just use Everton as a prompt to get Fulham to pull their finger out??
Didn't a lot of people complain that Willian done the same thing with Forest?
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Fernhurst on July 01, 2025, 11:40:41 AM
Get it announced Fulham
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: bog on July 01, 2025, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: Fernhurst on July 01, 2025, 11:40:41 AMGet it announced Fulham

My sentiments entirely sir.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 01, 2025, 07:06:26 PM
Romano is a ballbag.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: General on July 01, 2025, 07:36:26 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 30, 2025, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on June 30, 2025, 06:24:55 PM::scarf:: So did Tete's agent just use Everton as a prompt to get Fulham to pull their finger out??
Didn't a lot of people complain that Willian done the same thing with Forest?


Difference is Tete had played a number of years and put in some great performances for us in the meantime..

Willian was a journeyman who was struggling back in Brazil and looking for an escape, which Fulham and Marco had given him.. he had done well for us, but then, after just one season and disregarding what we'd done for him as a club, tried tactics to increase his worth and value..
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Chi_FFC on July 01, 2025, 07:37:51 PM
Romano says Tete has signed with Fulham. Fingers crossed he can stay relatively healthy and we don't see much of a drop of in his game as he enters his 30's.
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1940116866522845194
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: SerbianLad on July 01, 2025, 07:42:53 PM
Quote from: Chi_FFC on July 01, 2025, 07:37:51 PMRomano says Tete has signed with Fulham. Fingers crossed he can stay relatively healthy and we don't see much of a drop of in his game as he enters his 30's.
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1940116866522845194
Seems from this tweet like Marco changed his mind. Cheers Marco!

I have no worries regarding Tete. Last season's injury was a different injury compared to his previous injuries. I think it could have happened to anyone. He was fit otherwise, throughout the season and was consistently good.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: The Little Dave on July 01, 2025, 07:53:13 PM
Quote from: General on July 01, 2025, 07:36:26 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 30, 2025, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on June 30, 2025, 06:24:55 PM::scarf:: So did Tete's agent just use Everton as a prompt to get Fulham to pull their finger out??
Didn't a lot of people complain that Willian done the same thing with Forest?


Difference is Tete had played a number of years and put in some great performances for us in the meantime..

Willian was a journeyman who was struggling back in Brazil and looking for an escape, which Fulham and Marco had given him.. he had done well for us, but then, after just one season and disregarding what we'd done for him as a club, tried tactics to increase his worth and value..

Player and club have a difference in opinion about player worth manifesting in terms the player thinks arent good enough.

Player goes to the market to determine their value in the market and gives Fulham the chance to equal that.

This is an incredibly common thing in almost all professional sports.

There isn't anything to it.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 01, 2025, 08:06:05 PM
Well, it's official now.

He's staying.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Lighthouse on July 01, 2025, 08:07:49 PM
Three year with an option?
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Drewry66 on July 01, 2025, 10:14:13 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 01, 2025, 08:07:49 PMThree year with an option?

Yep
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: Terry Towling on July 02, 2025, 07:30:48 AM
Quote from: The Little Dave on June 22, 2025, 11:27:56 AMFabrizio gave Tete to Everton the confirmation here we go. Fulhamish twitter also posted and they don't dabble in rumors so I'm assuming this is a lock and formal announcement will come from Everton next week.

Big gap even if we think post injury Timo can start, need to find support.

I think he will stay and sign a new contract.
Title: Re: Tete to Everton merged
Post by: alfie on July 02, 2025, 12:25:16 PM
Quote from: General on July 01, 2025, 07:36:26 PM
Quote from: alfie on June 30, 2025, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on June 30, 2025, 06:24:55 PM::scarf:: So did Tete's agent just use Everton as a prompt to get Fulham to pull their finger out??
Didn't a lot of people complain that Willian done the same thing with Forest?


Difference is Tete had played a number of years and put in some great performances for us in the meantime..

Willian was a journeyman who was struggling back in Brazil and looking for an escape, which Fulham and Marco had given him.. he had done well for us, but then, after just one season and disregarding what we'd done for him as a club, tried tactics to increase his worth and value..
I don't see what the difference is,
They both turned down a contract from Fulham
They both were offered a contract at another club
They both accepted improved contracts at Fulham