https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/2089235/fulham-premier-league-transfer-marco-silva
Clearly a very unhappy man... a has every right to be so.
He said the same thing every other non big 6 manager has said this season. Wasn't angry. People desperately want him to leave every season since he's joined, at the expense of the club, just so they can say "I told you so".
Quote from: FFC007 on July 31, 2025, 12:59:05 PMhttps://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/2089235/fulham-premier-league-transfer-marco-silva
Clearly a very unhappy man... a has every right to be so.
He's not unhappy - the exact interview this is taken from is from the club - he talks in a pretty calm and measured way. Other interviews he's had have expressed his acknowledgement of the club working hard behind the scenes to get things done.
Stop making a mountain out of a molehill when it comes to Marco and his place at the club.
Complete BS article. He calmly said he would have liked to have the new signings to integrate as part of the camp. Of course he would. He's also said last week that 'we' (including himself so not blaming the board) are working hard to bring players in. At no point has he directly blamed the board. Every time he has spoken about the board he has always said what a great relationship he has with them and more importantly that he has always got the exact players that he has asked for. Although he wants players earlier he always says it's not easy so he seems to understand that to get players on his list takes time. Compare his comments to Glasners who really does seem pissed off and not aligned with the owners:
https://x.com/eurofootcom/status/1950499232814600516
Most mid table clubs are struggling and all the managers have said they would have liked their whole squads by now to prepare for the season but none of them have and most are in a far worse position than us right now.
Quote from: General on July 31, 2025, 01:05:08 PMQuote from: FFC007 on July 31, 2025, 12:59:05 PMhttps://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/2089235/fulham-premier-league-transfer-marco-silva
Clearly a very unhappy man... a has every right to be so.
He's not unhappy - the exact interview this is taken from is from the club - he talks in a pretty calm and measured way. Other interviews he's had have expressed his acknowledgement of the club working hard behind the scenes to get things done.
Stop making a mountain out of a molehill when it comes to Marco and his place at the club.
Indeed I think it must come down to some deeper predisposition with differing personality types at this point. Some appear hell bent on catasrophising every single situation when it comes to Fulham, perenially miserable in the outlook, rushing to the worst possible outcome.
Not to say there aren't fair criticisms and points along the way amongst all of it by the way, of course there's reason for questioning analysis. but my god it can be a real miserable trudge at times.
Goodness. Every year the same thing. Is Marco upset, is he going, will he storm out, blame the owner, blame the owners son, ruining out pre season, late signings too late, rubbish signings, we are all going to die in a vat of cold splurge, kill them all, I hate it all, let me support a club that is perfect and wins everything, Oh why oh why oh why????????
Sam Allardyce eating an ice cream in Bishops Park. ::tongue::
Publications like the Express owe their (surprising) continued existence to reeling in the guillable with their distorted interpretations and mugbait headlines.
The quotes are lifted directly from the after-match interview with Silva on the club's own website. Calm, rational presentation of the facts of the present situation. Doubtless the manager would have preferred a different scenario, but to see him as 'deeply unhappy' and his comments as some kind of tirade against the board pressaging his departure is clearly silly,
Sorry... it's the express.... Don't think I need to make any other comments
So if he's not unhappy presumably that makes him, well, happy ? Based on solely on comments that can be attributed directly to Silva I would suggest that he is disappointed that we haven't signed the reinforcements we all know that are required. Personally I'd say that he probably isn't happy.
Quote from: Whitestone on July 31, 2025, 03:19:20 PMSo if he's not unhappy presumably that makes him, well, happy ? Based on solely on comments that can be attributed directly to Silva I would suggest that he is disappointed that we haven't signed the reinforcements we all know that are required. Personally I'd say that he probably isn't happy.
He probably isn't happy about it but it hardly merits "
Premier League boss slams club's own transfer business in clear message to owner".
Quote from: General on July 31, 2025, 01:05:08 PMQuote from: FFC007 on July 31, 2025, 12:59:05 PMhttps://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/2089235/fulham-premier-league-transfer-marco-silva
Clearly a very unhappy man... a has every right to be so.
He's not unhappy - the exact interview this is taken from is from the club - he talks in a pretty calm and measured way. Other interviews he's had have expressed his acknowledgement of the club working hard behind the scenes to get things done.
Stop making a mountain out of a molehill when it comes to Marco and his place at the club.
It's how journalists grab your attention - put a construction on it and those who want to hear it that way....etc
MS clearly not a happy camper. But this is nothing new. EVERY season he has been with FFC it's the same old story.
Wash, rinse, repeat repeat repeat............
Are we sure this hasn't come from Ben Jacobs, he's been trying to get rid of Marco for 3 years
Moyes had a moan about lack of transfer activity at Everton yesterday .
Quote from: WindyCity on July 31, 2025, 03:26:03 PMMS clearly not a happy camper. But this is nothing new. EVERY season he has been with FFC it's the same old story.
Wash, rinse, repeat repeat repeat............
If he was that unhappy he'd have left by now surely? He had a big money offer to go and manage in the desert.
Groudhog day. He has been saying this for the past 3 years.
Ofc he wont quite the club over this.
I do however find it worrying that there doesnt seem to be a sincere communication within the hierarchy of the club, as Silva often tend to feel the need to express his feelings regarding this to the media every summer. I mean, really there seems to be a difference of opinion between him and the recruitment team, either that it simply no one has bothered explaining to him what the issue is (if there is any)
I didn't sense the hyperbolic levels of aggitation the article alludes to but he's just talking sense in regards to, the best time to integrate players is.....during a pre season tour. It's not a secret. Marco's also a pragmatist and no doubt acknowledges, thats a perfect world scenario, but we don't live in that world. So yeh, he's not going to be walking away when he has such a settled squad, one he's been pushing for.
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 02:04:05 PMIndeed I think it must come down to some deeper predisposition with differing personality types at this point. Some appear hell bent on catasrophising every single situation when it comes to Fulham, perenially miserable in the outlook, rushing to the worst possible outcome.
I accept some of the complaints (including mine) are a bit repetitive, but they're generally based in objective fact rather than the posters' "predisposition". We're a clear outlier in terms of the slowness of our business, the geographic narrowness of our scouting, the age of both our existing squad and new targets, and against most peers, our low net spend, and the high wages we pay. It was agreed by most on here, including the more positive posters like yourself, that at least three or four of those things should/would change this summer, yet it doesn't currently look like any will. Pretty hard to interpret/spin that positively, whatever your personality type.
Well put and true JayFFC
More e Bollox from a gutter press rag
Quote from: Angus Telford on July 31, 2025, 04:56:22 PMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 02:04:05 PMIndeed I think it must come down to some deeper predisposition with differing personality types at this point. Some appear hell bent on catasrophising every single situation when it comes to Fulham, perenially miserable in the outlook, rushing to the worst possible outcome.
I accept some of the complaints (including mine) are a bit repetitive, but they're generally based in objective fact rather than the posters' "predisposition". We're a clear outlier in terms of the slowness of our business, the geographic narrowness of our scouting, the age of both our existing squad and new targets, and against most peers, our low net spend, and the high wages we pay. It was agreed by most on here, including the more positive posters like yourself, that at least three or four of those things should/would change this summer, yet it doesn't currently look like any will. Pretty hard to interpret/spin that positively, whatever your personality type.
It's alot about disposition because its the same people all the time for years on this board whatever the topic is and regardless of what Fulham are doing at the time really. As with what this post was actually about its the jumping on any negative rumour and catasrophising it to the enth degree where it's not needed. (Which wasn't about you in this post fwiw - I think even you would concede Silva isn't "raging" in this interview just expressing what he and plenty clubs are saying around us every year)
I'll wait till end of the window, as ever, to judge the squad and how our business has gone and I've spent a lot of time explaining why I feel the results don't suggest timings of signings convo is worth the constant daily justification for the level and relentlessness of the complaining that occurs. I also have conceded what I think would be ideal scenario, but I'm optimistic about the end outcome given fact based results of recent starts.
It all gets unbelievably repetitive and dour and I do think actually disposition plays a huge part in WHICH "objective facts" one chooses to focus on to frame and justify their negative or positive outlook . That's the point.
And think it plays a big part in if someone would rather sit back and see how things play out by end of window, even if they have concerns about some of the rumours or outcomes along the way ...or chooses to indulge regularly in moaning all day about it and justifying why they're right to moan. One can observe things and not wallow, revel or jump to it instinctually all day like some seem to.
My main concern has been and always is, quality of squad come end of window,first and foremost . Because in recent years we've stayed competitive whilst also hitting no ffp problems and making record sales.so I'm less concerned and less hung up on age and timings specifically, providing they offer us quality come end of window. I'd like to steadily lower the age of the squad if possible but most importantly I want to enjoy watching Fulham and seeing them stay competitive, which they have been doing imo.
So far I'd be very happy with a combination of the current biggest rumours
Losing vini and willian
Gaining:
Lacomte
Nelson
Sterling/Chukwueze
KDH/Zinchenko
Romulo/Akodare/another
+ Integrating a highly talented 18 year old in King
That plus our current squad and Id be absolutely feeling confident and happy with the business and would look at it as a positive window whenever those additions arrive. But that's just how someone with my disposition looks at the "objective facts" and which ones I use as metrics to justify my outlook
Historically I've sat on the other side to Jay etc on this one. Always felt we put pressure on ourselves and the club/squad with late arrivals, unsettled pre seasons with sometimes imbalanced squads and I still stick by that criticism despite objectively seeing better starts than anticipated. Footballs a fine game with fine margins and a few different decisions and maybe those bright starts weren't but it is what it is.
Saying that, I'm not on that side this time round. The squads settled, Marco is settled, no major question marks around squad unless we include Muniz potentially being off based on loose reports(maybe I'm underplaying but nothing feels concrete). I really don't see this window like the others for those reasons but maybe we'll start badly and I'll be slagging it all off in 4 weeks time :slap:
I sympathise with the worriers among you but it is what it is. Just enjoy the journey (and the silliness season thread for 200 more pages to come!)
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 31, 2025, 05:44:04 PMHistorically I've sat on the other side to Jay etc on this one. Always felt we put pressure on ourselves and the club/squad with late arrivals, unsettled pre seasons with sometimes imbalanced squads and I still stick by that criticism despite objectively seeing better starts than anticipated. Footballs a fine game with fine margins and a few different decisions and maybe those bright starts weren't but it is what it is.
Saying that, I'm not on that side this time round. The squads settled, Marco is settled, no major question marks around squad unless we include Muniz potentially being off based on loose reports(maybe I'm underplaying but nothing feels concrete). I really don't see this window like the others for those reasons but maybe we'll start badly and I'll be slagging it all off in 4 weeks time :slap:
I sympathise with the worriers among you but it is what it is. Just enjoy the journey (and the silliness season thread for 200 more pages to come!)
I will add , it's absolutely possible this year we start worse than other years, I think we got a tough fixture list to kick off with actually, but that wouldn't suddenly buck the general trend of recent history here and means we'd have been vastly better off settling for other available targets than the ones we end up with, earlier in the window, and potentially for more money.
We have a cohesive settled squad which id say is around one of my top 5% of Fulham squads in my long time following Fulham. So am trusting the process and excited to see who comes in the door next.
Quote from: Whitestone on July 31, 2025, 03:19:20 PMSo if he's not unhappy presumably that makes him, well, happy ? Based on solely on comments that can be attributed directly to Silva I would suggest that he is disappointed that we haven't signed the reinforcements we all know that are required. Personally I'd say that he probably isn't happy.
Shock horror, there is a middle ground - people aren't always either happy or sad..
Quote from: KJS on July 31, 2025, 05:12:27 PMMore e Bollox from a gutter press rag
Stop knocking the Guardian. :slap:
On a serious note,I think that this will be his last season with us,just something I have a feeling about,the continuous frustrating of the transfer windows,and I also believe that he thinks he has taken us as far as he can.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong,but I can see it happening.
Quote from: Coastwalker on July 31, 2025, 06:53:43 PMOn a serious note,I think that this will be his last season with us,just something I have a feeling about,the continuous frustrating of the transfer windows,and I also believe that he thinks he has taken us as far as he can.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong,but I can see it happening.
Quote from: Coastwalker on July 31, 2025, 06:53:43 PMOn a serious note,I think that this will be his last season with us,just something I have a feeling about,the continuous frustrating of the transfer windows,and I also believe that he thinks he has taken us as far as he can.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong,but I can see it happening.
I agree and think this is his last season also.
Quote from: Coastwalker on July 31, 2025, 06:53:43 PMOn a serious note,I think that this will be his last season with us,just something I have a feeling about,the continuous frustrating of the transfer windows,and I also believe that he thinks he has taken us as far as he can.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong,but I can see it happening.
Inclined to agree, not connected to the article in any way which I agree is misleading, but 5 yrs is a decent stint for any manager, and i strongly sense another 12-13th placed finished from which both parties ought to conclude the other has taken them as far as they can.
Quote from: Angus Telford on July 31, 2025, 07:00:35 PMQuote from: Coastwalker on July 31, 2025, 06:53:43 PMOn a serious note,I think that this will be his last season with us,just something I have a feeling about,the continuous frustrating of the transfer windows,and I also believe that he thinks he has taken us as far as he can.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong,but I can see it happening.
Inclined to agree, not connected to the article in any way which I agree is misleading, but 5 yrs is a decent stint for any manager, and i strongly sense another 12-13th placed finished from which both parties ought to conclude they've taken the other has taken them as far as they can.
I'm more optimistic (shock 😅) in terms of potential for a top 10 finish if the additions are the level linked.
BUT I am inclined to agree from Silvas recent Portuguese interview comments, that maybe he's more open than ever on a return to Portugal with a big club there regardless, should they come knocking next year. Or indeed a job at a major club in England IF we fail to reach Europe or come very close.
Although IF he'd get an offer from a big club here if we failed to do that would be a big question anyway.
I get the impression that if Sporting, Benfica or Porto came knocking he'd strongly consider it though at this point.
Would love for Silva to commit to a longer contract but all good things will eventually come to an end of course. Big shoes to fill if we do move on from him.
Not sure that Silva hasn't been with the club a few seasons too long anyway. He tends to move about and has stayed with us longer than he has at other clubs. He probably saw the project as a personal thing and may well feel the limit has been reached.
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 05:34:43 PMQuote from: Angus Telford on July 31, 2025, 04:56:22 PMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 02:04:05 PMIndeed I think it must come down to some deeper predisposition with differing personality types at this point. Some appear hell bent on catasrophising every single situation when it comes to Fulham, perenially miserable in the outlook, rushing to the worst possible outcome.
I accept some of the complaints (including mine) are a bit repetitive, but they're generally based in objective fact rather than the posters' "predisposition". We're a clear outlier in terms of the slowness of our business, the geographic narrowness of our scouting, the age of both our existing squad and new targets, and against most peers, our low net spend, and the high wages we pay. It was agreed by most on here, including the more positive posters like yourself, that at least three or four of those things should/would change this summer, yet it doesn't currently look like any will. Pretty hard to interpret/spin that positively, whatever your personality type.
It's alot about disposition because its the same people all the time for years on this board whatever the topic is and regardless of what Fulham are doing at the time really. As with what this post was actually about its the jumping on any negative rumour and catasrophising it to the enth degree where it's not needed. (Which wasn't about you in this post fwiw - I think even you would concede Silva isn't "raging" in this interview just expressing what he and plenty clubs are saying around us every year)
I'll wait till end of the window, as ever, to judge the squad and how our business has gone and I've spent a lot of time explaining why I feel the results don't suggest timings of signings convo is worth the constant daily justification for the level and relentlessness of the complaining that occurs. I also have conceded what I think would be ideal scenario, but I'm optimistic about the end outcome given fact based results of recent starts.
It all gets unbelievably repetitive and dour and I do think actually disposition plays a huge part in WHICH "objective facts" one chooses to focus on to frame and justify their negative or positive outlook . That's the point.
And think it plays a big part in if someone would rather sit back and see how things play out by end of window, even if they have concerns about some of the rumours or outcomes along the way ...or chooses to indulge regularly in moaning all day about it and justifying why they're right to moan. One can observe things and not wallow, revel or jump to it instinctually all day like some seem to.
My main concern has been and always is, quality of squad come end of window,first and foremost . Because in recent years we've stayed competitive whilst also hitting no ffp problems and making record sales.so I'm less concerned and less hung up on age and timings specifically, providing they offer us quality come end of window. I'd like to steadily lower the age of the squad if possible but most importantly I want to enjoy watching Fulham and seeing them stay competitive, which they have been doing imo.
So far I'd be very happy with a combination of the current biggest rumours
Losing vini and willian
Gaining:
Lacomte
Nelson
Sterling/Chukwueze
KDH/Zinchenko
Romulo/Akodare/another
+ Integrating a highly talented 18 year old in King
That plus our current squad and Id be absolutely feeling confident and happy with the business and would look at it as a positive window whenever those additions arrive. But that's just how someone with my disposition looks at the "objective facts" and which ones I use as metrics to justify my outlook
Not excited by the striker options, but the rest look decent.
Quote from: General on July 31, 2025, 08:46:41 PMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 05:34:43 PMQuote from: Angus Telford on July 31, 2025, 04:56:22 PMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 02:04:05 PMIndeed I think it must come down to some deeper predisposition with differing personality types at this point. Some appear hell bent on catasrophising every single situation when it comes to Fulham, perenially miserable in the outlook, rushing to the worst possible outcome.
I accept some of the complaints (including mine) are a bit repetitive, but they're generally based in objective fact rather than the posters' "predisposition". We're a clear outlier in terms of the slowness of our business, the geographic narrowness of our scouting, the age of both our existing squad and new targets, and against most peers, our low net spend, and the high wages we pay. It was agreed by most on here, including the more positive posters like yourself, that at least three or four of those things should/would change this summer, yet it doesn't currently look like any will. Pretty hard to interpret/spin that positively, whatever your personality type.
It's alot about disposition because its the same people all the time for years on this board whatever the topic is and regardless of what Fulham are doing at the time really. As with what this post was actually about its the jumping on any negative rumour and catasrophising it to the enth degree where it's not needed. (Which wasn't about you in this post fwiw - I think even you would concede Silva isn't "raging" in this interview just expressing what he and plenty clubs are saying around us every year)
I'll wait till end of the window, as ever, to judge the squad and how our business has gone and I've spent a lot of time explaining why I feel the results don't suggest timings of signings convo is worth the constant daily justification for the level and relentlessness of the complaining that occurs. I also have conceded what I think would be ideal scenario, but I'm optimistic about the end outcome given fact based results of recent starts.
It all gets unbelievably repetitive and dour and I do think actually disposition plays a huge part in WHICH "objective facts" one chooses to focus on to frame and justify their negative or positive outlook . That's the point.
And think it plays a big part in if someone would rather sit back and see how things play out by end of window, even if they have concerns about some of the rumours or outcomes along the way ...or chooses to indulge regularly in moaning all day about it and justifying why they're right to moan. One can observe things and not wallow, revel or jump to it instinctually all day like some seem to.
My main concern has been and always is, quality of squad come end of window,first and foremost . Because in recent years we've stayed competitive whilst also hitting no ffp problems and making record sales.so I'm less concerned and less hung up on age and timings specifically, providing they offer us quality come end of window. I'd like to steadily lower the age of the squad if possible but most importantly I want to enjoy watching Fulham and seeing them stay competitive, which they have been doing imo.
So far I'd be very happy with a combination of the current biggest rumours
Losing vini and willian
Gaining:
Lacomte
Nelson
Sterling/Chukwueze
KDH/Zinchenko
Romulo/Akodare/another
+ Integrating a highly talented 18 year old in King
That plus our current squad and Id be absolutely feeling confident and happy with the business and would look at it as a positive window whenever those additions arrive. But that's just how someone with my disposition looks at the "objective facts" and which ones I use as metrics to justify my outlook
Not excited by the striker options, but the rest look decent.
Really? I like the look of Romulo to be fair, got something about him, though RB leipzig who do have a history with scouting good attacking options look to be in the driving seat there.
Akodare looks a physical specimenz if a bit raw, not my first choice of the 2 but either probably an upgrade on vinicius and a project to work with
Anyone out there realistic you prefer the look of? Wolves eyeing up Ivanovich at Milwall the young serb?
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 09:04:33 PMQuote from: General on July 31, 2025, 08:46:41 PMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 05:34:43 PMQuote from: Angus Telford on July 31, 2025, 04:56:22 PMQuote from: jayffc on July 31, 2025, 02:04:05 PMIndeed I think it must come down to some deeper predisposition with differing personality types at this point. Some appear hell bent on catasrophising every single situation when it comes to Fulham, perenially miserable in the outlook, rushing to the worst possible outcome.
I accept some of the complaints (including mine) are a bit repetitive, but they're generally based in objective fact rather than the posters' "predisposition". We're a clear outlier in terms of the slowness of our business, the geographic narrowness of our scouting, the age of both our existing squad and new targets, and against most peers, our low net spend, and the high wages we pay. It was agreed by most on here, including the more positive posters like yourself, that at least three or four of those things should/would change this summer, yet it doesn't currently look like any will. Pretty hard to interpret/spin that positively, whatever your personality type.
It's alot about disposition because its the same people all the time for years on this board whatever the topic is and regardless of what Fulham are doing at the time really. As with what this post was actually about its the jumping on any negative rumour and catasrophising it to the enth degree where it's not needed. (Which wasn't about you in this post fwiw - I think even you would concede Silva isn't "raging" in this interview just expressing what he and plenty clubs are saying around us every year)
I'll wait till end of the window, as ever, to judge the squad and how our business has gone and I've spent a lot of time explaining why I feel the results don't suggest timings of signings convo is worth the constant daily justification for the level and relentlessness of the complaining that occurs. I also have conceded what I think would be ideal scenario, but I'm optimistic about the end outcome given fact based results of recent starts.
It all gets unbelievably repetitive and dour and I do think actually disposition plays a huge part in WHICH "objective facts" one chooses to focus on to frame and justify their negative or positive outlook . That's the point.
And think it plays a big part in if someone would rather sit back and see how things play out by end of window, even if they have concerns about some of the rumours or outcomes along the way ...or chooses to indulge regularly in moaning all day about it and justifying why they're right to moan. One can observe things and not wallow, revel or jump to it instinctually all day like some seem to.
My main concern has been and always is, quality of squad come end of window,first and foremost . Because in recent years we've stayed competitive whilst also hitting no ffp problems and making record sales.so I'm less concerned and less hung up on age and timings specifically, providing they offer us quality come end of window. I'd like to steadily lower the age of the squad if possible but most importantly I want to enjoy watching Fulham and seeing them stay competitive, which they have been doing imo.
So far I'd be very happy with a combination of the current biggest rumours
Losing vini and willian
Gaining:
Lacomte
Nelson
Sterling/Chukwueze
KDH/Zinchenko
Romulo/Akodare/another
+ Integrating a highly talented 18 year old in King
That plus our current squad and Id be absolutely feeling confident and happy with the business and would look at it as a positive window whenever those additions arrive. But that's just how someone with my disposition looks at the "objective facts" and which ones I use as metrics to justify my outlook
Not excited by the striker options, but the rest look decent.
Really? I like the look of Romulo to be fair, got something about him, though RB leipzig who do have a history with scouting good attacking options look to be in the driving seat there.
Akodare looks a physical specimenz if a bit raw, not my first choice of the 2 but either probably an upgrade on vinicius and a project to work with
Anyone out there realistic you prefer the look of? Wolves eyeing up Ivanovich at Milwall the young serb?
Nah, not for me.
Quote from: JimOG on July 31, 2025, 03:22:18 PMQuote from: General on July 31, 2025, 01:05:08 PMQuote from: FFC007 on July 31, 2025, 12:59:05 PMhttps://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/2089235/fulham-premier-league-transfer-marco-silva
Clearly a very unhappy man... a has every right to be so.
He's not unhappy - the exact interview this is taken from is from the club - he talks in a pretty calm and measured way. Other interviews he's had have expressed his acknowledgement of the club working hard behind the scenes to get things done.
Stop making a mountain out of a molehill when it comes to Marco and his place at the club.
It's how journalists grab your attention - put a construction on it and those who want to hear it that way....etc
Oh, I know. That was more aimed at the OP who should know better than to post dross. Perhaps they're just a Wum we should all keep an eye out on.