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Everyone wondered what the lineup would be and how Fulham would play against a very good Bournemouth team.  I actually thought the first half and up until the Sess goal, Fulham played very well.  But you can never really count out Bournemouth nowadays. 

To be honest, I really didn't think we would beat them, but I still think Fulham would fall apart like that in the end. So, who was your FoF MOTM and why?

F*** off, just f*** off football, you know?

Good to see Diop back.

ultimately we were beat by two fantastic goals. Thought it was a really professional performance up to the first goal, then we capitulated when they equalised. Castagne to blame IMO; you could see Chuk telling him to not let Semenyo take him on the outside but he still allowed it. Chuk had the inside covered all day long, just show him outside ffs.

Positives were Cairney, Sess, and Chuk.

We go again.

So disappointed, thought we'd get at least a point.

Harry was slaughtered on the match day thread but I think others were equally culpable.

Think we're in big trouble this season,and the reason is a terrible Summer Window.
It's coming back to haunt us with the injuries we have.

Quote from: SP on October 03, 2025, 09:59:01 PMGood to see Diop back.

I suppose we take the positives where we can.

Another pretty disappointing experience watching the boys.

Silva is starting to look a bit "checked out". I don't think we're in the frame for relegation, but can't see how this will be as good as last season.

Quote from: Coastwalker on October 03, 2025, 10:01:03 PMThink we're in big trouble this season,and the reason is a terrible Summer Window.
It's coming back to haunt us with the injuries we have.

Think we'll be fine in the end, but it won't be a comfortable or enjoyable season.

TC MotM.  Brought us some calm, stability and authority.  I'm beginning to really really dislike Bournemouth.  Some very good goals but it was never a 3 1 match

Tough to pick for me. Was going to go TC, but he should do better for the 2nd Bournemouth goal. Chukwueze looked bright, but wasn't on long enough. Diop was pretty solid for the most of it, but not sure that he was actually MOTM either. Iwobi was okay in the first half and very good in the second. It's probably one of them, but I can't really pick one.

Two avoidable goals, if Tete is at RB I don't think they'd get a sniff all game. Castagne just needs to be a man and stand him up and TC gets sent for a hotdog when again he just needed to stand his ground. Can't blame the third one on anything as you have to chuck the kitchen sink at a last minute corner.

Silva is seriously worrying me though because his tactics and selections aren't making much sense anymore. First half was awful until we had to bring TC on and all of a sudden we looked semi competent, but with nothing up top because nobody looked like they understood the game plan. Wilson disasterclass should hopefully see the end of him starting, I genuinely don't get how Silva can say JKA isn't ready and instead play "ready" players who go and drop 1/10 performances

To be honest we got beat by a better team with a better manager. We are a soft/easy team for opposing teams to play against and not an exciting watch currently.

They are a really good side. Have to acknowledge that. We defended really well for 78 mins but they have quality. Semenyo did Castagne on the bye line, slotted through Lenos legs and that second wonder goal killed us. We always concede though and often another straight after that's the worry. Really missed a front man today, especially Muniz. Cairney did really well after coming on. He gives us much more on the ball than Lukic. Sess also did well and great finish for his goal. On to the next. Hope we get Raul or Muniz back.

Quote from: Sgt Fulham on October 03, 2025, 09:58:55 PMF*** off, just f*** off football, you know?

Nicer way of putting it than i was going to write.

Love staying up half the night to watch tripe like that again. Just bloody fantastic.

This was the sort of game where Kevin should of never played....

Cairney had a great game....

Chukwueze is more than ready and is now in contention to be a starter

Adama should of come on instead of Kevin, and nearly got an assist with Cairney's shot over

Sess had a very good game & on another day he'd have got the winner...

Not sure why Evanilson didn't get booked for simulation when Diop touched him...

King just get's better and better

Regrettably one of those night's

Well Tony Khan, your incompetence in running a football club is coming home to roost.

Poor transfer window, and now we are seeing the fruits of someone who couldn't run a bath, let alone a premier league side.

Arsenal next, and we could be in real bother.

As much as I like Wilson and TC, they didn't show it today.

Wilson is better off the bench. He needs to move there. TC was critical on that second goal. He should have been subbed off way earlier. poo I would have brought on ESR for Lukic from the start.

Tough one to take when you consider it was the experienced lads who didn't step up when needed today. Main goals for them were poor. Castagne awful defending for first and Leno should be better. Second, poor from captain Cairney. Take the foul and the booking and keep it locked up. Leno again beaten from a strange range too. So shares some responsibility. Then finishing from Cairney to get us back level went wanting too. Certainly not an awful outing but as I say, some decent performances but poor moments from experienced heads costing us cementing what I thought. We're a 11-14 team but with some injuries potentially a 14-16 side.

I do think if Tete was fit we'd likely come away with something today. Ain't no way with Chuks blocking his inside route that he lazily allows him to get to by line and past him in short space to go on to finish.

No striker but still competitive so not a dreadful outing for the lads but bitterly disappointed when experienced lads don't show maturity in their game.

Was really disappointed in Wilson, Iwobi and Castagne today though. Passengers and too easily lost my the ball

Quote from: FFC007 on October 03, 2025, 10:10:33 PMWell Tony Khan, your incompetence in running a football club is coming home to roost.

Poor transfer window, and now we are seeing the fruits of someone who couldn't run a bath, let alone a premier league side.

Arsenal next, and we could be in real bother.

Yeah TK's fault that Silva chose to not play a striker, or start Wilson who has been quite poor all season apart from 45 mins against Brentford, and play the last 10 mins with four wingers on the pitch with nobody to cross the ball to

And that should be Harry Wilson's last start of the season

Quote from: SP on October 03, 2025, 09:59:01 PMGood to see Diop back.

He's clumsy and slow. Championship standard.

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Quote from: FFC007 on October 03, 2025, 10:10:33 PMWell Tony Khan, your incompetence in running a football club is coming home to roost.

Poor transfer window, and now we are seeing the fruits of someone who couldn't run a bath, let alone a premier league side.

Arsenal next, and we could be in real bother.

Yeah TK's fault that Silva chose to not play a striker, or start Wilson who has been quite poor all season apart from 45 mins against Brentford, and play the last 10 mins with four wingers on the pitch with nobody to cross the ball to

With Lukic injured now.. it's Reed or Cairney, and that's it for cover.

As I said, the transfer philosophy at Fulham is all wrong.

We need reinforcements in January, no debate.

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Quote from: SP on October 03, 2025, 09:59:01 PMGood to see Diop back.

He's clumsy and slow. Championship standard.

He's an established PL centre back...

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Quote from: Deeping_white on October 03, 2025, 10:12:15 PM

Quote from: FFC007 on October 03, 2025, 10:10:33 PMWell Tony Khan, your incompetence in running a football club is coming home to roost.

Poor transfer window, and now we are seeing the fruits of someone who couldn't run a bath, let alone a premier league side.

Arsenal next, and we could be in real bother.

Yeah TK's fault that Silva chose to not play a striker, or start Wilson who has been quite poor all season apart from 45 mins against Brentford, and play the last 10 mins with four wingers on the pitch with nobody to cross the ball to

With Lukic injured now.. it's Reed or Cairney, and that's it for cover.

As I said, the transfer philosophy at Fulham is all wrong.

We need reinforcements in January, no debate.

Should have signed them in the Summer..Its now costing us with the injuries.

I don't get the Diop stick, I thought he was fine tonight. If any defender deserves criticism it's Castagne

Quote from: Southcoastffc on October 03, 2025, 10:02:21 PMTC MotM.  Brought us some calm, stability and authority.  I'm beginning to really really dislike Bournemouth.  Some very good goals but it was never a 3 1 match

No chance. Sold down the river for the Kluivert goal, creating the space for him to take the shot

Quote from: Deeping_white on October 03, 2025, 10:20:34 PMI don't get the Diop stick, I thought he was fine tonight. If any defender deserves criticism it's Castagne

Neither do I thought he did ok, actually looked to drive forward with the ball

I hold my hand up & admit I was wrong about Semenyo. I thought £9m was too much for him from Bristol City but he'll be the next for a big money move.

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Quote from: Deeping_white on October 03, 2025, 10:20:34 PMI don't get the Diop stick, I thought he was fine tonight. If any defender deserves criticism it's Castagne

Neither do I thought he did ok, actually looked to drive forward with the ball

Diops defending was brilliant. On the ball, poor. Unlike Cairney, when they were breaking, he hugs semenyo to the ground and takes his card. He was good today. Happy to ignore the criticism. As someone rightly pointed out, if you want to press someone for shocking defending, have a look at Castagne. Offered nothing at both ends. Hid a lot and cost us the game not doing a very basic set of defending when Chuka covered the inside track so all he had to do was close the line but nope. Weak as piss from Tim.

One thing that is indisputable is that the team and tactics Marco started with was completely wrong. Up until Lukic went off we couldnt get out of our own half. We didnt have a shot until just before half time (which was straight at the keeper).

We then come out for the second half completely asleep AGAIN. No subs are made, despite us crying out for a target man and Wilson dropping a 1/10 performance.

We manage to score, and then drop waaaaaay too deep, inviting on the pressure. Terrible defending for the goal and then as normal we completely fall apart mentally and concede again. Again no-one closing a midfielder down (exactly like at Villa) and allowing a free shot from the edge of the box.

We are then desperate for a goal.... and we STILL dont bring on our only fit striker. Maybe he's ready, maybe he's not, but we will never know unless he plays. He will never get match fit if he doesnt play.

It also winds me up how we've turned into a worse version of Arsenal that doesn't shoot from outside the box. We always have to cross it in or try and walk it into the net, and whilst I'm not advocating for shooting on sight, we wouldn't hurt our chances with the occasional pop from distance, especially on a night like tonight where the wind and rain clearly had an impact on the ball moving through the air

I made Sess man of the match, but he was completely tanked at the end, which meant he seemed completely unable to cover the break for their 3rd goal.

If Tete and Robinson were fit and playing - I don't think we lose this game.

Are some people really criticising Diop today, of all people? Probably our best defender defensively. Had some erratic moments, especially in the opening 20-25 minutes when it comes to passing, but other than that was fine in attack too. One of our best players today, imo.

Wilson can't start anymore

Two absolute worldies did for us tonight, the last one was just us chasing the game.  People need to stop crying like children every time we lose a game.

I thought that Castagne was great tonight, all the way up until Semanyo got away from him that one time. 

Tonight was unlucky, it seems to be a bit of a theme so far this season.

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 03, 2025, 10:29:49 PMTwo absolute worldies did for us tonight, the last one was just us chasing the game.  People need to stop crying like children every time we lose a game.

I thought that Castagne was great tonight, all the way up until Semanyo got away from him that one time. 

Tonight was unlucky, it seems to be a bit of a theme so far this season.

Mate I don't think you can criticise others like that and claim the two goals were worldies. Decent finishes perhaps but both completely avoidable with some mature and basic fundamental principles enacted. Castagne for first, Cairney should be taking the yellow for the second but he flopped around on tired legs and just gave up.

I'm all up for not crying when we've been outplayed but that was another capitulation for us and even worse, wise heads letting the side down. 

I know in my heart the negative guys are right here, but I think we played our way into that game well and probably deserved at least a point. Semenyo has something our team doesn't (and many others don't either - it's surely his last season at Bournemouth) and we didn't defend his first goal well.

I think we're a mid-table team, but we need to be careful, and the squad might be looking a bit thin in the places we all knew it would be - up top and in the two central midfield spots.

Kevin needs to knuckle down a bit and be more precise. If he doesn't improve, he won't get the starts, he won't learn the patterns and there's a risk he's another ESR.

Sure Semenyo did Castagne for the goal but that was the first time all game and nobody could see what he was coming after that.

We are injury ravaged, playing a new(ish) formation and we held them at arms length until that happened.  These players are humans, not robots. 

Anyway, I am out of here until Monday because this place is already a cesspit and it is much better when it is not like that.   

Bournemouth were everything we wished Fulham were, clinically put us to the sword. That was one of the worst set ups I have seen from a team who were comfortably mid table last season.

Park the bus parkerball 2.0

https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/1974227378814468111
The news keeps getting better. Sounds like there's a decent chance we won't see Rodrigo back until Sunderland in late November.

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 03, 2025, 10:37:34 PMSure Semenyo did Castagne for the goal but that was the first time all game and nobody could see what he was coming after that.

We are injury ravaged, playing a new(ish) formation and we held them at arms length until that happened.  These players are humans, not robots. 

Anyway, I am out of here until Monday because this place is already a cesspit and it is much better when it is not like that. 

Yeah, I'm not too upset with TC and Castagne getting beat. They have limitations as players which were on display.

What I'm surprised to see is how little discussion there has been of Berge. I was one of his biggest supporters last season and thought he was excellent. This season he has been so disappointing. His contributions today were almost non existent. The issue is Marco has so few options in the middle but I think he needs to consider dropping him out of the starting lineup next match and putting Lukic deep. The CB's need a better shield than he is providing.

Iraola deserves credit as he replaced CB Marcos Senesi with winger Ben Gannon-Doak in a tactical reshuffle when we were 1-0 up.

We couldn't handle their attacking overload & with us lacking a striker Iraola could take the risk.

As soon as they went 2-1 he took Brooks off & put another CB on.

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Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 03, 2025, 10:29:49 PMTwo absolute worldies did for us tonight, the last one was just us chasing the game.  People need to stop crying like children every time we lose a game.

I thought that Castagne was great tonight, all the way up until Semanyo got away from him that one time. 

Tonight was unlucky, it seems to be a bit of a theme so far this season.

Mate I don't think you can criticise others like that and claim the two goals were worldies. Decent finishes perhaps but both completely avoidable with some mature and basic fundamental principles enacted. Castagne for first, Cairney should be taking the yellow for the second but he flopped around on tired legs and just gave up.

I'm all up for not crying when we've been outplayed but that was another capitulation for us and even worse, wise heads letting the side down. 

It wasn't a capitulation, far from it. We played well for a lot of the game and didn't deserve that result tonight. We weren't at full strength which is possibly why we gave away goals one and two. Cairney made a difference when he came on but there is no way Kluivert gets the space for the equaliser with Lukic on the pitch. I can't be so certain that Tete would have stopped Semenyo for the first but  you never know ?

Hard to pick a MoM. I am not saying everyone or even anyone was terrible, but even those who had good moments also struggled at times, and no one was outstanding throughout the 90 minutes. For example, Sessegnon's run and finish were excellent, but other parts of his game were average at best, most noticeably when defending against Brooks in the second half. Chuckwueze had some good moments, but also lost the ball too often, and 30 minutes isn't enough time to get a MoM award anyway.  Cairney's passing controlled the midfield well, but he was found out by Kluivert for their crucial second goal.

It was a performance which left me uneasy. I don't believe in over reacting to wins or losses, so I won't say we are in a relegation battle yet, but right now I am looking downwards at the table with a bit of disquiet, rather than upwards with optimism.

After seeing how he got some stick both here and on Twitter, and also he was one of my candidates anyway, I went with Diop in the end. Very underrated player. His passing isn't always great, but he's rock solid 99% of the time.

Gotta be Leno, he made a number of great saves, though he didn't cover himself in glory for the first goal.

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Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 03, 2025, 10:37:34 PMSure Semenyo did Castagne for the goal but that was the first time all game and nobody could see what he was coming after that.

We are injury ravaged, playing a new(ish) formation and we held them at arms length until that happened.  These players are humans, not robots. 

Anyway, I am out of here until Monday because this place is already a cesspit and it is much better when it is not like that. 

Yeah, I'm not too upset with TC and Castagne getting beat. They have limitations as players which were on display.

What I'm surprised to see is how little discussion there has been of Berge. I was one of his biggest supporters last season and thought he was excellent. This season he has been so disappointing. His contributions today were almost non existent. The issue is Marco has so few options in the middle but I think he needs to consider dropping him out of the starting lineup next match and putting Lukic deep. The CB's need a better shield than he is providing.

Agree about Berge, he rarely dominates defensively given his physique. Offensively he's far too cautious in possession.

Quote from: SerbianLad on October 04, 2025, 12:36:41 AMAfter seeing how he got some stick both here and on Twitter, and also he was one of my candidates anyway, I went with Diop in the end. Very underrated player. His passing isn't always great, but he's rock solid 99% of the time.

I like Diop and think he was ok last night, but nowhere near our best player IMO. His biggest shortcoming is his ability on the ball. You could see that every time the ball was played to him, the Bournemouth press was triggered - and more often than not - our flow was interrupted when the ball got to him. He's a bit too indecisive with the ball at his feet. But defensively, I think he's really good.

Got to be JKA gets better each game he doesn't play when we need a forward and a goal he couldn't have done worse than then the 2 midget midfielders we brought on

Pretty frustrating again - we just don't have that killer touch. In fact we seem to find new ways to implode after playing pretty well.

Hard to be too critical, but in the decisive moments some players are going absent:
- Castagne is steady, but so limited physical in both defence and attack. He's always prone to be bypassed like on the second goal. Tete miles better.
- Wilson should have been sold to Leeds. Produces the odd moment of quality, but it's too rare. Thought he was dreadful tonight. Chukwueze looks like a good upgrade based on his cameos.
- Berge, as others have said, doesn't offer anything going forward. That may not be his job, but there's moments he can drive forward and he never does. Defensively he's too passive. If he had an ounce of Palhinha's tenacity he'd be class.
- Kevin was rubbish today. Wrong game to bring him on. Too many flicks and back heels lost us the ball in crucial moments.

Bournemouth, Villa & Chelsea games all losses, but with some admirable performances. In that sense we've been a bit unlucky, but a few players needed to take a long hard look at their performances when the pressure is on.

Separate question, what's happened to Robinson? Think Sess has been pretty good, but odd to see so little of Robinson this season.

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Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 03, 2025, 10:29:49 PMTwo absolute worldies did for us tonight, the last one was just us chasing the game.  People need to stop crying like children every time we lose a game.

I thought that Castagne was great tonight, all the way up until Semanyo got away from him that one time. 

Tonight was unlucky, it seems to be a bit of a theme so far this season.

Mate I don't think you can criticise others like that and claim the two goals were worldies. Decent finishes perhaps but both completely avoidable with some mature and basic fundamental principles enacted. Castagne for first, Cairney should be taking the yellow for the second but he flopped around on tired legs and just gave up.

I'm all up for not crying when we've been outplayed but that was another capitulation for us and even worse, wise heads letting the side down. 

It wasn't a capitulation, far from it. We played well for a lot of the game and didn't deserve that result tonight. We weren't at full strength which is possibly why we gave away goals one and two. Cairney made a difference when he came on but there is no way Kluivert gets the space for the equaliser with Lukic on the pitch. I can't be so certain that Tete would have stopped Semenyo for the first but  you never know ?

That wouldn't have happened to Tete.

Quote from: Jonny4 on October 04, 2025, 08:54:36 AMPretty frustrating again - we just don't have that killer touch. In fact we seem to find new ways to implode after playing pretty well.

Hard to be too critical, but in the decisive moments some players are going absent:
- Castagne is steady, but so limited physical in both defence and attack. He's always prone to be bypassed like on the second goal. Tete miles better.
- Wilson should have been sold to Leeds. Produces the odd moment of quality, but it's too rare. Thought he was dreadful tonight. Chukwueze looks like a good upgrade based on his cameos.
- Berge, as others have said, doesn't offer anything going forward. That may not be his job, but there's moments he can drive forward and he never does. Defensively he's too passive. If he had an ounce of Palhinha's tenacity he'd be class.
- Kevin was rubbish today. Wrong game to bring him on. Too many flicks and back heels lost us the ball in crucial moments.

Bournemouth, Villa & Chelsea games all losses, but with some admirable performances. In that sense we've been a bit unlucky, but a few players needed to take a long hard look at their performances when the pressure is on.

Separate question, what's happened to Robinson? Think Sess has been pretty good, but odd to see so little of Robinson this season.

I think we have changed Berge position at Sheffield and Burnley he was certainly more advanced and prolific with goals especially against us Marco has dropped him deeper.

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Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 03, 2025, 10:29:49 PMTwo absolute worldies did for us tonight, the last one was just us chasing the game.  People need to stop crying like children every time we lose a game.

I thought that Castagne was great tonight, all the way up until Semanyo got away from him that one time. 

Tonight was unlucky, it seems to be a bit of a theme so far this season.

Mate I don't think you can criticise others like that and claim the two goals were worldies. Decent finishes perhaps but both completely avoidable with some mature and basic fundamental principles enacted. Castagne for first, Cairney should be taking the yellow for the second but he flopped around on tired legs and just gave up.

I'm all up for not crying when we've been outplayed but that was another capitulation for us and even worse, wise heads letting the side down. 

It wasn't a capitulation, far from it. We played well for a lot of the game and didn't deserve that result tonight. We weren't at full strength which is possibly why we gave away goals one and two. Cairney made a difference when he came on but there is no way Kluivert gets the space for the equaliser with Lukic on the pitch. I can't be so certain that Tete would have stopped Semenyo for the first but  you never know ?

That wouldn't have happened to Tete.

Maybe people are quibbling with the word but I don't know how going into the last 15 a goal up and losing 3.1 isn't a capitulation? It's bad enough not holding a lead, but not even getting a draw, but to concede 3 goals in less than 10 mins is a capitulation in my view.

And I agree. Ain't no way Tete allows that goal to happen. For what it's worth, I'm not suggesting the likes of Cairney and Tim had bad games for the entire spells they played. In Cairneys defence, the opposite. But they let the team down in key moments that gifted Bournemouth the win. I do think Tim was fairly anonymous though offering very little going forwards and not really having much to do defensively as Semenyo consistently came inside but the minute the didn't, they scored. Had they targeted Tim earlier, I think they'd of had a lot more success so I can't agree with Somerset that Tim was the reason Semenyo was quiet for 78 minutes.

Back in the Championship when we beat Bristol City 6-2 Semenyo scored a stunning goal for the Robins. Seems that this and his overhaul display did not warrant keeping an eye on him for a possible future bid. What an inspirational player.

I thought Sess was our MotM. 

Think there's a few things to talk about after last night.

- Sessegnon is getting back to his best; a new deal is long overdue (deal expires end of this year, although we have an option). Another example of why his best work is his attacking movement. Once Robinson is back, I think Sess should still start, and play him further forward. Yes we've signed other forwards, but Sess movement and drive in those areas are on another level when fully fit.

- JKA - If this was the game to start him or give him a run out, it probably was. 6'5, good at linking the play and would have been an inexperienced but good fit to replace Muniz/Raul when out. Maybe it is too soon, but he was playing for Bayern in pre-season, so he was on the cusp of getting senior football. Not to give him 20 minutes or so feels a wrong call. (Then again, we don't see what the team sees in training etc - but we play best with a focal point, and not having one does cost us).

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Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 03, 2025, 10:29:49 PMTwo absolute worldies did for us tonight, the last one was just us chasing the game.  People need to stop crying like children every time we lose a game.

I thought that Castagne was great tonight, all the way up until Semanyo got away from him that one time. 

Tonight was unlucky, it seems to be a bit of a theme so far this season.

Mate I don't think you can criticise others like that and claim the two goals were worldies. Decent finishes perhaps but both completely avoidable with some mature and basic fundamental principles enacted. Castagne for first, Cairney should be taking the yellow for the second but he flopped around on tired legs and just gave up.

I'm all up for not crying when we've been outplayed but that was another capitulation for us and even worse, wise heads letting the side down. 

It wasn't a capitulation, far from it. We played well for a lot of the game and didn't deserve that result tonight. We weren't at full strength which is possibly why we gave away goals one and two. Cairney made a difference when he came on but there is no way Kluivert gets the space for the equaliser with Lukic on the pitch. I can't be so certain that Tete would have stopped Semenyo for the first but  you never know ?

Equally based on the first 14 mins with Lukic on the pitch there's no chance we get out of our half full stop.

Quote from: Bassey the warrior on October 04, 2025, 12:42:39 AMGotta be Leno, he made a number of great saves, though he didn't cover himself in glory for the first goal.

Leno? Great saves? Were you watching a different match? He made a total of three saves and none of them were particularly difficult. And yeah, on the first goal he opened up his legs too much for some reason and gave Semenyo a path to goal from an extremely tight angle which he gladly took. No, not the greatest mistake in the world (it was still a good/tough finish) but that's a goal I'd really like to see him prevent.

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Quote from: Bassey the warrior on October 04, 2025, 12:42:39 AMGotta be Leno, he made a number of great saves, though he didn't cover himself in glory for the first goal.

Leno? Great saves? Were you watching a different match? He made a total of three saves and none of them were particularly difficult. And yeah, on the first goal he opened up his legs too much for some reason and gave Semenyo a path to goal from an extremely tight angle which he gladly took. No, not the greatest mistake in the world (it was still a good/tough finish) but that's a goal I'd really like to see him prevent.

Have to agree here also, what match was that poster watching?  Clearly, in my view, Leno cost us this game.  Very poor on him with conceding the equalizer.  How he can't secure the near side better is hard to understand, and having said that, leaving the five-hole wide open for the score is just very poor.  And even the second goal, sure, a well struck ball by Kluivert, but from distance, Leno has to do much better.  We've seen a number of goals from distance that Leno has conceded these past several seasons, his positioning must be off or his reaction time is not very good.  For a top class keeper in this league, goals like that just can't be allowed to happen.  I certainly don't consider the first goal a 'worldlie', and even the second goal is debatable.  In sum, poor game from our keeper......

Best players for FFC were Cairney and Sessegnon.
Chukwueze pretty good, but still positionally all over the place.
Kevin poor.
Back four fairly good.
Leno very poor.

Quote from: WindyCity on October 04, 2025, 02:46:39 PM

Quote from: Chi_FFC on October 04, 2025, 02:26:27 PM

Quote from: Bassey the warrior on October 04, 2025, 12:42:39 AMGotta be Leno, he made a number of great saves, though he didn't cover himself in glory for the first goal.

Leno? Great saves? Were you watching a different match? He made a total of three saves and none of them were particularly difficult. And yeah, on the first goal he opened up his legs too much for some reason and gave Semenyo a path to goal from an extremely tight angle which he gladly took. No, not the greatest mistake in the world (it was still a good/tough finish) but that's a goal I'd really like to see him prevent.

Have to agree here also, what match was that poster watching?  Clearly, in my view, Leno cost us this game.  Very poor on him with conceding the equalizer.  How he can't secure the near side better is hard to understand, and having said that, leaving the five-hole wide open for the score is just very poor.  And even the second goal, sure, a well struck ball by Kluivert, but from distance, Leno has to do much better.  We've seen a number of goals from distance that Leno has conceded these past several seasons, his positioning must be off or his reaction time is not very good.  For a top class keeper in this league, goals like that just can't be allowed to happen.  I certainly don't consider the first goal a 'worldlie', and even the second goal is debatable.  In sum, poor game from our keeper......

Agree with first goal, but very few keepers would have got to Kluivert shot.