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Title: Tosin's blunder
Post by: Nick Bateman on December 04, 2025, 12:13:37 PM
Just saw Leeds' 3rd goal, what a blunder by Tosin. Hope he is happy on Chelsea's bench rather than being in Fulham's first team.
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: Willham on December 04, 2025, 12:15:10 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on December 04, 2025, 12:13:37 PMJust saw Leeds' 3rd goal, what a blunder by Tosin. Hope he is happy on Chelsea's bench rather than being in Fulham's first team.

It was a blunder but the more I watch it, the more I think the keeper could have done better too!

He let the ball slip through him too easily too.
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: SerbianLad on December 04, 2025, 12:18:24 PM
Tosin has always been extremely error prone, even more so than Diop who always got a lot of stick. But during his time here, he usually got very lucky that our opponents usually missed those chances he gave away, while every error Diop made seemed to turn into a a goal.

I wasn't disappointed when he left, like some people here and on twitter. I never particularly rated him in the first place. He had some nice passing skills and was probably the most aerially dominant defender we've had in recent years, but when it comes to everything else, he was always below average in my opinion.
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: jayffc on December 04, 2025, 12:35:38 PM
If he was here

He"d.be on our bench

Behind Diop and Cuenca

Only reason he got played so much towards the end felt like us trying to convince him to sign a new contract. Soon as he didn't he was dropped for Diop again.

Arrogant character who isn't as good as he thinks he is imo. Played well in spurts but never seemed top 4 quality to me
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: FFC1987 on December 04, 2025, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: jayffc on December 04, 2025, 12:35:38 PMIf he was here

He'd.be on our bench

Behind Diop and Cuenca

Only reason he got played so much towards the end felt like us trying to convince him to sign a new contract. Soon as he didn't he was dropped for Diop again.

Arrogant character who isn't as good as he thinks he is imo. Played well in spurts but never seemed top 4 quality to me

Yep, agreed. Explaining this to some of the football group I'm in and it sounded as if I was saying with sour grapes claiming he was our 3rd to 4th choice CB at the time....but they get it now.

His comments about being at a big club, matching his big ambition etc just reminded me of Mark Hughes......Then those awful posts hes makes claiming he's upgraded when they get a result are so cringey....
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: bencher on December 04, 2025, 01:42:05 PM
In my opinion Tosin, Diop, Bassey and Andersen are all around the same level on average, with patches of doing well mixed with bad errors and bad games. They have different attributes and flaws but you end up with about the same level.
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: jayffc on December 04, 2025, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on December 04, 2025, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: jayffc on December 04, 2025, 12:35:38 PMIf he was here

He'd.be on our bench

Behind Diop and Cuenca

Only reason he got played so much towards the end felt like us trying to convince him to sign a new contract. Soon as he didn't he was dropped for Diop again.

Arrogant character who isn't as good as he thinks he is imo. Played well in spurts but never seemed top 4 quality to me

Yep, agreed. Explaining this to some of the football group I'm in and it sounded as if I was saying with sour grapes claiming he was our 3rd to 4th choice CB at the time....but they get it now.

His comments about being at a big club, matching his big ambition etc just reminded me of Mark Hughes......Then those awful posts hes makes claiming he's upgraded when they get a result are so cringey....

He got ripped on socials for saying all that by fulham fans so is just giving it back I guess, he's human end of the day. But he always came across as an aloof egoist type.

He was in and out our team for sure but full international Anderson is definitely a better defender, Tosin would not get in that Danish team. Bassey also has been far better Albeit he had some wobbles this year. Diop and cuenca it's hard to say given sample size but when tosin was here I wanted issa over him anyway. Diop has had a few stand out ballsup moments but largely think he's a better defender too.
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: WindyCity on December 04, 2025, 03:34:31 PM
Yeah, I saw that play too.  Brutal.

Adarabioyo always had a muff in him every time out.
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: H4usuallysitting on December 04, 2025, 04:42:42 PM
I saw him get out of an uber prius...you can guess what I think of him
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: cookieg on December 05, 2025, 07:35:54 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 04, 2025, 04:42:42 PMI saw him get out of an uber prius...you can guess what I think of him

Caring for the environment by not driving a Chelsea tractor?
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: H4usuallysitting on December 05, 2025, 08:14:58 AM
Quote from: cookieg on December 05, 2025, 07:35:54 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 04, 2025, 04:42:42 PMI saw him get out of an uber prius...you can guess what I think of him

Carrying for the environment by not driving a Chelsea tractor?

For supporting a company that we're currently suing
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: SerbianLad on December 06, 2025, 11:20:08 AM
https://twitter.com/AbsoluteChelsea/status/1996886605345575166

Just seen this on twitter. Ouch!
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: cookieg on December 06, 2025, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 05, 2025, 08:14:58 AM
Quote from: cookieg on December 05, 2025, 07:35:54 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 04, 2025, 04:42:42 PMI saw him get out of an uber prius...you can guess what I think of him

Carrying for the environment by not driving a Chelsea tractor?

For supporting a company that we're currently suing

Uber or Toyota and why?
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: Logicalman on December 06, 2025, 11:51:21 AM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on December 04, 2025, 12:13:37 PMJust saw Leeds' 3rd goal, what a blunder by Tosin. Hope he is happy on Chelsea's bench rather than being in Fulham's first team.

I watched the game also, and I think, though Tosin should have done a better job to rid himself of the ball first kick, though some of the replays being shown fail to provide how the ball was sent to Tosin to begin with and the total failure of the Chelsea players.
Chelsea #27 has the ball on the right 18 yard line, he is challenged by the Leeds #19 running at him, he then plays a soft ball across to Tosin some 6 yards inside the box and the same Leeds player is closing Tosin down at speed, thus Tosin has only the availability of a second or so to release the ball before being tackled.

Basically it was a team mess-up, why #27 plays such a soft ball across the back was the first blunder, Tosin not reacting fast enough was the second, and why Chelsea #23 doesn't follow the Leeds #9 (who starts his run from the 18 yard line by the D) into the 6 yard box is an additional failure.

Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: H4usuallysitting on December 06, 2025, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: cookieg on December 06, 2025, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 05, 2025, 08:14:58 AM
Quote from: cookieg on December 05, 2025, 07:35:54 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 04, 2025, 04:42:42 PMI saw him get out of an uber prius...you can guess what I think of him

Carrying for the environment by not driving a Chelsea tractor?

For supporting a company that we're currently suing

Uber or Toyota and why?

uber.... misrepresentation...think there's about 13,500 of us....if your interested look online London Taxi v uber court case
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: cookieg on December 06, 2025, 02:50:10 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 06, 2025, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: cookieg on December 06, 2025, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 05, 2025, 08:14:58 AM
Quote from: cookieg on December 05, 2025, 07:35:54 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 04, 2025, 04:42:42 PMI saw him get out of an uber prius...you can guess what I think of him

Carrying for the environment by not driving a Chelsea tractor?

For supporting a company that we're currently suing

Uber or Toyota and why?

uber.... misrepresentation...think there's about 13,500 of us....if your interested look online London Taxi v uber court case

So how was Tosin supposed to know you are suing Uber? I thought you meant Fulham were suing Uber.
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: H4usuallysitting on December 06, 2025, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: cookieg on December 06, 2025, 02:50:10 PM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 06, 2025, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: cookieg on December 06, 2025, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 05, 2025, 08:14:58 AM
Quote from: cookieg on December 05, 2025, 07:35:54 AM
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 04, 2025, 04:42:42 PMI saw him get out of an uber prius...you can guess what I think of him

Carrying for the environment by not driving a Chelsea tractor?

For supporting a company that we're currently suing

Uber or Toyota and why?

uber.... misrepresentation...think there's about 13,500 of us....if your interested look online London Taxi v uber court case

So how was Tosin supposed to know you are suing Uber? I thought you meant Fulham were suing Uber.

If you don't know why uber are a disgrace of a company - anything I say isn't going to convince you
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: hopper on December 06, 2025, 06:49:34 PM
I really don't like him, but think he might just start here. He's not as good as Andersen on the ball - but quicker and stronger and Silva seemed to really like him.

I don't think he's top 4 quality for sure.
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: SerbianLad on December 06, 2025, 06:52:19 PM
Quote from: hopper on December 06, 2025, 06:49:34 PMI really don't like him, but think he might just start here. He's not as good as Andersen on the ball - but quicker and stronger and Silva seemed to really like him.

I don't think he's top 4 quality for sure.
I think he's worse than both, personally. Andersen is better than him at everything bar aerial duels and is slower than him. Diop is better than him at everything bar passing and aerial duels and is a significantly better defender than Tosin.
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: hopper on December 06, 2025, 07:00:43 PM
Quote from: SerbianLad on December 06, 2025, 06:52:19 PM
Quote from: hopper on December 06, 2025, 06:49:34 PMI really don't like him, but think he might just start here. He's not as good as Andersen on the ball - but quicker and stronger and Silva seemed to really like him.

I don't think he's top 4 quality for sure.
I think he's worse than both, personally. Andersen is better than him at everything bar aerial duels and is slower than him. Diop is better than him at everything bar passing and aerial duels and is a significantly better defender than Tosin.

I don't see much in it between all 3 of them personally, all slightly different profiles of players. Tosin did have a tendency to overestimate his passing range. I remember he would try long balls that would get very little lift and cause immediate turnovers.

I do wish our defenders would get more goals on corners. Not had one in a good while, but that speaks to a wider malaise with our corner set up.
Title: Re: Tosin's blunder
Post by: H4usuallysitting on December 07, 2025, 09:45:37 AM
Our 18 year old made him look like a mug