A lot of noise coming out of West Ham that Adama to West Ham is agreed for a "modest" fee and will be concluded next week as soon as the window opens,
Now then, I don't have an issue with Adama going, but I do have an issue with the timing,
Every time we try and buy a player we are invariably told by the selling club that they need to get a replacement before they can let their player go, so why are we different?
We've currently got three players away at AFCON, why aren't we at least waiting until they get back,
Don't understand the need to do West Ham any favours.
Good
If he wants to go then ultimately it's his decision....
Yeah fair enough C Block, one would hope we have someone else coming in for his place in the squad.
We do seem to try and sign players after a departure rather than before. I think it's a good time for Adama to go, was surprised he didn't move in the summer.
If we get a good replacement quickly, I'm not against it as his contact ends at the end of the season. If we end up needing to play some games without a replacement, I'm completely against it. He's already our only backup on the wong at the moment. We really can't afford to lose him without a replacement.
To be honest, we started off the season with five wingers: Iwobi, Kevin, Harry, Chuk and Adama and ESR can play down the left wing. We didn't need five but we certainly should be using that money to buy a new striker. But now that Iwobi has been moved centrally perhaps we should be looking to get a replacement.
He's played like he was playing for another club for some time now. Get rid asap. Waste of space.
Some of you are missing the point,it's not the fact he's going that's the issue it's the fact that our already stretched squad is about to be reduced by one, that's the issue.
He flatters to deceive I'm afraid, we don't use him enough to want him to stay.
Quote from: C Block on December 24, 2025, 01:31:49 PMSome of you are missing the point,it's not the fact he's going that's the issue it's the fact that our already stretched squad is about to be reduced by one, that's the issue.
Even so we don't play him.
Do we need to get another right winger when we have Macaulay Zepa waiting on the wing ::newYear:: ::merryXmas::
More than happy for him to go ASAP. He is probably on high wages but has offered us nothing by way of productivity or effort for a long time now. Would rather have an U21 prospect on the bench whilst we await Chuk etc returning.
Quote from: gang on December 24, 2025, 01:33:38 PMQuote from: C Block on December 24, 2025, 01:31:49 PMSome of you are missing the point,it's not the fact he's going that's the issue it's the fact that our already stretched squad is about to be reduced by one, that's the issue.
Even so we don't play him.
We played him vs forest.
I for one think we need incomings before we sanction outgoings, though appreciate he's likely on high wages and isn't playing regularly to merit them.
I think he's been given a bit of a raw deal for us, I think he's been better for us and a decent servant to the club than we've given him credit, and he's definitely added something different to our squad, strategy and team.
I don't know why Marco didn't play him more when we were struggling for goals, I felt he had turned a corner a bit and was being productive for us.
Has seemingly been a good guy and contributed to the wellbeing of the players and atmosphere around the club, and I'm sure he'll be missed if he does go.
But as said, players in first.
Wham doing business so ready when the widow opens. Are we?
Personally, I couldn't fault his work ethic, he just hasn't been able to secure a more prominent role.
Quote from: SP on December 24, 2025, 02:36:36 PMPersonally, I couldn't fault his work ethic, he just hasn't been able to secure a more prominent role.
Eh? He comes on for 10 mins and spends most of the time walking about
Quote from: SP on December 24, 2025, 02:36:36 PMPersonally, I couldn't fault his work ethic, he just hasn't been able to secure a more prominent role.
Last few games he has come on, its been like we are playing with 10 men. He doesnt track, doesnt beat his man, he just looks like he cant be arsed.
On the OP point, i agree it would be nice to have someone lined up, but equally if Sess is back I'd be happy with him as the replacement and then we use whatever money we have to get a striker in. I dont feel like hes a miss, he brings absolutely nothing to us.....he's going to be unbelievable for West Ham
Who knows, maybe we have agreements in place for his replacement already.
If you do leave, then thanks Adama, been really good having you. Good luck for the future except when we play against you!
Quote from: WokingFFC on December 24, 2025, 02:43:22 PMWho knows, maybe we have agreements in place for his replacement already.
If you do leave, then thanks Adama, been really good having you. Good luck for the future except when we play against you!
Yes and please don't learn how to cross the ball or shoot.
We need to get deadwood out, to add, sadly, so Adama out quickly is good business by the Club. Whilst I agree he needs to be replaced quickly, the aim is to also replace with better quality, so not bothered if it takes a couple of weeks.
He's done a job for us, however, like Adama does with every club, and soon to be West Ham, he'll fade after a season or so.
Adam is 30 in January, so, he's on the decline now in both price and pace, so now is the right time to cash in.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 24, 2025, 02:57:14 PMWe need to get deadwood out, to add, sadly, so Adama out quickly is good business by the Club. Whilst I agree he needs to be replaced quickly, the aim is to also replace with better quality, so not bothered if it takes a couple of weeks.
He's done a job for us, however, like Adama does with every club, and soon to be West Ham, he'll fade after a season or so.
Adam is 30 in January, so, he's on the decline now in both price and pace, so now is the right time to cash in.
It's not good business if you've mismanaged the clubs finances through fees and wages to the point you have no wriggle room and have to get rid before you sign, especially when you already have a small squad short on players.
Just saying.
It's remarkable to see how many clubs have come and gone who, whilst we muddled round, have got into Europe, figured out a better transfer strategy, sold players for higher valuations and found better quality replacements for a fraction, and even got into the top six, in the time that Fulham has gone up and down leagues, and then had one particularly good season, and simply - like when we got to the europa league final- failed to capitalise on the positives of those seasons..
Brighton have been steadily pushing for Europe, forest and wolves have got Europe, Sunderland are in the top 6 currently, though have dropped off the pace a bit recently..
Villa are another example, we beat them in the playoff final and now they've just overtaken us.
And it's not due to our manager, or even the players we do have, but whatever drives our wider club strategy behind the scenes.
You could argue at this point, after so many years in the PL, or as owners, its just our ownership or perhaps Ali Mac that are hampering this club.
To the point on being more strategic in our replacement process by blocking a move until we get a suitable backfill...
I recall we did that a couple summers ago to great effect and got a whole season out of Palhinha, perhaps his best season in the last few years.
In general I think that approach makes sense, but I can see cases where you might want to deliberately act differently.
To be fair, though he hasnt looked inspired since Pep put emasculated him after he missed a couple sitters, I dont think Traore deserves all the stick he gets here.
I was excited when we got him, and he did have his moments. Especially his little looping crosses that led to several goals. He is also just an entertaining character.
Maybe he could have embraced his role as a super sub with more energy, but I think his biggest obstacle was just too many bodies in front of him on the team sheet. If he does leave I wish him well
It's not necessarily all his fault he never got an extended run in the team and he seems like a decent chap but he never really showed much quality.
I can only think of 4 or 5 good things he did in his time with us but lots of wasteful play and losing the ball leading to dangerous situations.
Time for all concerned to move on.
He'll serve them well In the championship
Adama was the only experienced forward on the bench against Forest so there is no way he will go without replacement. It has all gone quiet on how bad Sess's injury may actually be therefore we are short of front players until Muniz and the ANC players are back.
When we played at Manchester City last season, if Traore was able to finish it would have been 0-3 at half time. I will never forget Kyle Walker running out of breath trying to keep up with him!
The best goal I ever saw him score was for Wolves at the Cottage in a 0-1 loss. That loss saw us relegated.
I know it's popular to say that Silva gets the best out of players, but I think Traore has declined in his time at Fulham. At his best he is an unplayable powerhouse that weaves through defenders with a combination of speed, strength and skill. I can't remember that last time we saw anything like that. He delivered some valuable assists last season but we haven't really seen the true Adama, and I think that's down to coaching. If he does leave, I wish him well personally but I really hope he fails at West Ham, because when on song he can be a weapon.
Quote from: Deeping_white on December 24, 2025, 02:39:09 PMQuote from: SP on December 24, 2025, 02:36:36 PMPersonally, I couldn't fault his work ethic, he just hasn't been able to secure a more prominent role.
Eh? He comes on for 10 mins and spends most of the time walking about
But, it's the way he walks about
Quote from: perry geyton on December 24, 2025, 03:51:54 PMHe'll serve them well In the championship
Unfortunately, I do think that's his level.
The dream of WHU being relegated is beautiful, the bookies have them filling the third slot at 1/2 so fingers crossed.
Quote from: bencher on December 24, 2025, 04:10:28 PMI know it's popular to say that Silva gets the best out of players, but I think Traore has declined in his time at Fulham.
You sure about that? Last season was comfortably his best season in terms of goals + assists since 2019-20.
Quote from: General on December 24, 2025, 03:17:31 PMQuote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 24, 2025, 02:57:14 PMWe need to get deadwood out, to add, sadly, so Adama out quickly is good business by the Club. Whilst I agree he needs to be replaced quickly, the aim is to also replace with better quality, so not bothered if it takes a couple of weeks.
He's done a job for us, however, like Adama does with every club, and soon to be West Ham, he'll fade after a season or so.
Adam is 30 in January, so, he's on the decline now in both price and pace, so now is the right time to cash in.
It's not good business if you've mismanaged the clubs finances through fees and wages to the point you have no wriggle room and have to get rid before you sign, especially when you already have a small squad short on players.
Just saying.
It's remarkable to see how many clubs have come and gone who, whilst we muddled round, have got into Europe, figured out a better transfer strategy, sold players for higher valuations and found better quality replacements for a fraction, and even got into the top six, in the time that Fulham has gone up and down leagues, and then had one particularly good season, and simply - like when we got to the europa league final- failed to capitalise on the positives of those seasons..
Brighton have been steadily pushing for Europe, forest and wolves have got Europe, Sunderland are in the top 6 currently, though have dropped off the pace a bit recently..
Villa are another example, we beat them in the playoff final and now they've just overtaken us.
And it's not due to our manager, or even the players we do have, but whatever drives our wider club strategy behind the scenes.
You could argue at this point, after so many years in the PL, or as owners, its just our ownership or perhaps Ali Mac that are hampering this club.
I agree, but there are also plenty who have done worse too, just to mention for perspective.
With the Nigerians at AFCON, we have 3 available wingers. We absolutely cannot let him go before securing a replacement or waiting until the Nigerians return. ESR can do a job out there but then we are thin at the 10 position. Sess can also play there but he is not fit currently.
Going back for Tyrique George is a possibility. Raheem Sterling on loan may be as well but it may take a while to get him anywhere close to match fit since he has only been training with Axel Disasi for the last 6 months so he may not be a reliable immediate replacement.
Quote from: C Block on December 24, 2025, 01:31:49 PMSome of you are missing the point,it's not the fact he's going that's the issue it's the fact that our already stretched squad is about to be reduced by one, that's the issue.
You're missing the point, getting him off the wage bill means we can get someone else in
Quote from: KJS on December 24, 2025, 04:53:17 PMQuote from: C Block on December 24, 2025, 01:31:49 PMSome of you are missing the point,it's not the fact he's going that's the issue it's the fact that our already stretched squad is about to be reduced by one, that's the issue.
You're missing the point, getting him off the wage bill means we can get someone else in
But we need to have a replacement ready before letting Adama go. Even if it's for one game, not having a replacement for him would be extremely problematic. We'd have two wingers in the whole squad. Imagine if, God forbid, Kevin or Wilson get injured and we sell Adama and don't replace him? What would you do then?
I don't think anyone is against selling Adama, but we need to replace him either before selling him or just after.
Better getting something rather than nothing in the summer. Plus wages. I think it's a good decision from the club
Makes good sense. Kevin, HW, Chukwueze, Iwobi, ESR, King, Sess and at one point recently Castagne. We have a load of options for two wing spots who aren't obviously less effective than Adama's recent outings. There's also a lad pulling up trees in the U-21s, Ali Wahid who might not be out of place in a match day squad soon enough.
Afcon affects the position short term. But unless one can envision Adama making a game-changing impact against Liverpool or Chelsea, it's probably not going to matter if he's gone early.
Bloke can cross a ball ill give him
That but far too much dilly dallying when he's got the ball
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on December 24, 2025, 04:11:24 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on December 24, 2025, 02:39:09 PMQuote from: SP on December 24, 2025, 02:36:36 PMPersonally, I couldn't fault his work ethic, he just hasn't been able to secure a more prominent role.
Eh? He comes on for 10 mins and spends most of the time walking about
But, it's the way he walks about
😂
Quote from: Ronnief on December 24, 2025, 01:41:12 PMDo we need to get another right winger when we have Macaulay Zepa waiting on the wing ::newYear:: ::merryXmas::
Gotta be honest I've been unimpressed almost every time I've watched zepa for a good year now. Am I missing something? I watch any game and highlights I can that's streamed of the academy but for me he's not living up to the initial expectations
Quote from: hopper on December 24, 2025, 04:34:59 PMQuote from: General on December 24, 2025, 03:17:31 PMQuote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 24, 2025, 02:57:14 PMWe need to get deadwood out, to add, sadly, so Adama out quickly is good business by the Club. Whilst I agree he needs to be replaced quickly, the aim is to also replace with better quality, so not bothered if it takes a couple of weeks.
He's done a job for us, however, like Adama does with every club, and soon to be West Ham, he'll fade after a season or so.
Adam is 30 in January, so, he's on the decline now in both price and pace, so now is the right time to cash in.
It's not good business if you've mismanaged the clubs finances through fees and wages to the point you have no wriggle room and have to get rid before you sign, especially when you already have a small squad short on players.
Just saying.
It's remarkable to see how many clubs have come and gone who, whilst we muddled round, have got into Europe, figured out a better transfer strategy, sold players for higher valuations and found better quality replacements for a fraction, and even got into the top six, in the time that Fulham has gone up and down leagues, and then had one particularly good season, and simply - like when we got to the europa league final- failed to capitalise on the positives of those seasons..
Brighton have been steadily pushing for Europe, forest and wolves have got Europe, Sunderland are in the top 6 currently, though have dropped off the pace a bit recently..
Villa are another example, we beat them in the playoff final and now they've just overtaken us.
And it's not due to our manager, or even the players we do have, but whatever drives our wider club strategy behind the scenes.
You could argue at this point, after so many years in the PL, or as owners, its just our ownership or perhaps Ali Mac that are hampering this club.
I agree, but there are also plenty who have done worse too, just to mention for perspective.
Very this
For the 2 or 3 clubs that might have done so, many, many others have been far worse. We've done well without quite hitting the dizziest heights.
Again, the club won more games in the top flight than
ever in its history and reached a semi final and people are still digging out the owners like we're being badly mismanaged. For our size and resources, restricted by that size were doing pretty bloody well, re-established as a settled competitive premier league club, competed for Europe for majority of last year. Back 3 points from 7th after a horrid slate of key injuries despite missing our main striker.
Sure a couple have had even more success in moments, and credit to them, but we're currently probably back to back in the upper 5% of historical club finishes. One of those praised was forest last year. Currently one place off relegation and all over the gaff having completely botched the relationship with the manager who got them there 🤷
Quote from: sarnian on December 24, 2025, 03:56:27 PMAdama was the only experienced forward on the bench against Forest so there is no way he will go without replacement. It has all gone quiet on how bad Sess's injury may actually be therefore we are short of front players until Muniz and the ANC players are back.
Yep the Sess thing is worrying he's finally been in such good form, I'm start worry that he's a bit of a sick note
Quote from: jayffc on December 24, 2025, 07:03:56 PMQuote from: hopper on December 24, 2025, 04:34:59 PMQuote from: General on December 24, 2025, 03:17:31 PMQuote from: Jimsbeerbelly on December 24, 2025, 02:57:14 PMWe need to get deadwood out, to add, sadly, so Adama out quickly is good business by the Club. Whilst I agree he needs to be replaced quickly, the aim is to also replace with better quality, so not bothered if it takes a couple of weeks.
He's done a job for us, however, like Adama does with every club, and soon to be West Ham, he'll fade after a season or so.
Adam is 30 in January, so, he's on the decline now in both price and pace, so now is the right time to cash in.
It's not good business if you've mismanaged the clubs finances through fees and wages to the point you have no wriggle room and have to get rid before you sign, especially when you already have a small squad short on players.
Just saying.
It's remarkable to see how many clubs have come and gone who, whilst we muddled round, have got into Europe, figured out a better transfer strategy, sold players for higher valuations and found better quality replacements for a fraction, and even got into the top six, in the time that Fulham has gone up and down leagues, and then had one particularly good season, and simply - like when we got to the europa league final- failed to capitalise on the positives of those seasons..
Brighton have been steadily pushing for Europe, forest and wolves have got Europe, Sunderland are in the top 6 currently, though have dropped off the pace a bit recently..
Villa are another example, we beat them in the playoff final and now they've just overtaken us.
And it's not due to our manager, or even the players we do have, but whatever drives our wider club strategy behind the scenes.
You could argue at this point, after so many years in the PL, or as owners, its just our ownership or perhaps Ali Mac that are hampering this club.
I agree, but there are also plenty who have done worse too, just to mention for perspective.
Very this
For the 2 or 3 clubs that might have done so, many, many others have been far worse. We've done well without quite hitting the dizziest heights.
Again, the club won more games in the top flight than ever in its history and reached a semi final and people are still digging out the owners like we're being badly mismanaged. For our size and resources, restricted by that size were doing pretty bloody well, re-established as a settled competitive premier league club, competed for Europe for majority of last year. Back 3 points from 7th after a horrid slate of key injuries despite missing our main striker.
Sure a couple have had even more success in moments, and credit to them, but we're currently probably back to back in the upper 5% of historical club finishes. One of those praised was forest last year. Currently one place off relegation and all over the gaff having completely botched the relationship with the manager who got them there 🤷
Just another one that likes to have a pop at our outstanding owners
The tell tale signs will be on Saturday if he is not in the Match Day squad to play the Hammers.
Wasnt intending to go down the route of pointing out individuals on that. Especially at christmas. But just saying I find the hyper focus on the small amount of teams doing better a bit harsh some times, especially when so many teams with bigger resources and fan bases have done way worse comparitively but those examples get overlooked completely to reaffirm the negative perspective.
We definitely could do more in terms of identifying young talent and flipping them, but the route we took was very deliberate as confirmed in interviews and it's largely paid off well, albeit we fell just short last year in terms of league position we'd hoped for, in a freak year where we hit a points tally that in 99% of other seasons sees you in top 10 and about 70%+ of the time in a european place. That's all.
Having re-established as a prem team, The last 2 years we took some risks of our own on younger talent with Kevin, ESR and JKA. Sold Stansfield for 20m pure profit and brought through another brilliant young talent of our own in King. A bit older but finally got chuk too who we've been interested for a while and he's been brilliant.
Time will tell if those things pay off in a meaningful way but we're well in the hunt as things stand for a competitive second half of the season and hopefully bring in a reinforcement or two in January too to help in that regard
Fingers crossed
UTF
Quote from: General on December 24, 2025, 02:28:30 PMQuote from: gang on December 24, 2025, 01:33:38 PMQuote from: C Block on December 24, 2025, 01:31:49 PMSome of you are missing the point,it's not the fact he's going that's the issue it's the fact that our already stretched squad is about to be reduced by one, that's the issue.
Even so we don't play him.
We played him vs forest.
I for one think we need incomings before we sanction outgoings, though appreciate he's likely on high wages and isn't playing regularly to merit them.
I think he's been given a bit of a raw deal for us, I think he's been better for us and a decent servant to the club than we've given him credit, and he's definitely added something different to our squad, strategy and team.
I don't know why Marco didn't play him more when we were struggling for goals, I felt he had turned a corner a bit and was being productive for us.
Has seemingly been a good guy and contributed to the wellbeing of the players and atmosphere around the club, and I'm sure he'll be missed if he does go.
But as said, players in first.
Well said General...
He's also the best crosser in the team!
I'm not gonna cry if he leaves, but feel he hasn't been appreciated here at all.
Completely agree about adama, under appreciated here wildly. Not the most consistent but don't agree that he strolls about at all like some seem to insinuate but have said my bit on traore a number of times.
Now we have chuk for some much needed RW pace ,With his contract up I'm happy for him to move on, although would rather it wasn't to a premier League team ideally. Hope a spanish team shows an interest again. If it is west ham then I wish him well. A likeable character whos been in and out the team without kicking off, his numerous assists last year were very welcome.
Wish him well wherever he goes
Having maguire on his arse at manure, then setting up the winner means i'll love the guy always, can't stand that lot and that cheat should have been sent off
Hes hasnt gone yet figures may be agreed but we may want to wait until end of AFCONs of we have a player in.
Historically teams with West Ham's Christmas position only have a two in three chance of not being relegated. If we beat them on the 27th though. I cannot see where they would get the points to stay up, so wouldn't Traore want to keep his options open at the moment?
I thought last season we always looked a better team when he started. Fell out of favour for whatever reason and this year has been way off the pace , probably because he has been told he isn't part of the plan .
A decent servant to the club during his time. People making snide remarks about him have clearly been spoiled recently. If Adama is our 'lowest quality' player then we're doing something right.
Wouldn't wish West Ham on him, but if he goes, then he goes with a thank you from me, and best of luck to him.
It's Chrimbo...let him go free
Swap him for Fullkrug
When he joined I was quite optimistic. He was clearly very quick and strong. On the other hand a record of scoring approximately one in twenty games at every club explained why he was on a free transfer. FFC has a record of picking up players who are in a bit of a rut and, by good coaching, get them performing. It hasn't worked with Traore who is still scoring about 1/20. It's time to move on. He needs the chance to play regularly and FFC to improve the squad.
Just seen this
Fulham Have Submitted A Formal Bid For Ricardo Pepi......
A reliable journalist in Holland who covers PSV only has spoken on Dutch tv saying Fulham have submitted a formal bid for the American Striker.
The bid of £30 million Euros has formally been accepted with £4 million in add ons.
We have been tracking the striker for two season's and Pepi has previously spoke about wanting to join Fulham his idol Clint Dempsey also of course played for us and is a Fulham Legend.
Fulham have always had American players over the years and mostly been successful with club legend Brian Mcbride being Clints Idol - does that mean its written in the stars.
Eddie Johnson, Dempsey, Mcbride, Bocanegra, Hahnerman, Eddie Lewis, Keller, Reeeeeaaaaammmm, Robinson, Hyndman.
Could we add another in January
Fulham have also contacted Forentina regarding Moise Kean
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Quote from: H4usuallysitting on Today at 11:52:19 AMSwap him for Fullkrug
I'd take that in a second but he's off to AC Milan.
Quote from: First State on Today at 04:58:02 PMQuote from: H4usuallysitting on Today at 11:52:19 AMSwap him for Fullkrug
I'd take that in a second but he's off to AC Milan.
And the West Ham fans I've spoken to can't wait to see the back of him. Sounds like a similar story with a lot of Fulham fans and Traore.