It finishes 0-0 at the Bust Stop in Hounslow.
Not the worst result in the world, but not the best either, if we had any intentions of chasing Europe.
Lacked a cutting edge once again, didn't look like scoring, and we relied on a World class save from Leno at the end.
Based on what you see today, what were post Brentford thoughts?
::scarf::
#ffc #BREFUL
Our lads already have their bags packed for their holidays.
From my perspective, we don't lose ✅ & they dropped 2-points in their quest for Europe ✅
Hounslow on tour would be unbearable 🤦🏻�♂️
Other than that. It was dire & I commend any neutral that watched that dirge.
Well , I hate players being slagged off for what ever reason , but today I thought Muniz was as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike . He's still young so I live in hope .
Continuation of last game, Who is the playing out from the back coach? Leno did save the day.
Season over
Some good defensive performances and TC looked bright but we really are woeful up front. Muniz has to be dropped, he's a third choice striker at best, and we need a proper replacement for Raul in the summer along with a TC replacement. Neither will come cheap!
My granddaughters game this morning,was more entertaining(She scored god bless her).
We really are a nothing side,and if no proper signings in the Summer,it could easily be back to the Championship.
On the bright side we took 4 points off Brentford to stop their CL dreams ::tongue::
But someone needs to tell them 'You know the white sticks holding the net !!! That is the point of the game to get the ball between them and into the net' !!!
As I mentioned in another thread, happy with the away point. With all the terrible passing and easy giveaways we were lucky not to be punished.
Lukic had good game I thought, looked quite lively especially in first half.
Sessegnon had some good moments, could have done better on a couple half chances he had.
TC I thought also had a fairly good game.
Playing out from the back is a farce. Why does Leno continue to pass forward to our players who have an opposition player draped all over them? Scratching head...
Leno saved the point for FFC with that brilliant save at the death.
As it has been all season long, our corner defense is terrible, just never show improvement. BFC had maybe 4-5 fairly good header opportunities off corners, and one of which Thiago probably should have converted. Corner defense continues to be dodgy....
No shots on target normally gets you a loss, so the away point is welcome....
Positives:
-midfield balance was much better today, I definitely prefer Lukic-TC to Berge-Iwobi
-last few minutes of both halfs aside, we looked comfortable defensively
-Leno was great today
-we didn't lose, so our hunt for Europe is still on
Negatives:
-our passing and decision making in the final third was dire for most of the match. We had superb buildup numerous times only to make mistakes in the final third
-Iwobi's injury
-didn't use this chance to get level on points with them and be in a very good position in our fight for European spots
-Both strikers didn't perform very well. Partially, though, because of what I said about our passing and decision making in the final third, so it's not all their fault. I see a lot of people blame Muniz, but to me Raul looked worse when he came on.
Quote from: bobbo on April 18, 2026, 03:01:56 PMWell , I hate players being slagged off for what ever reason , but today I thought Muniz was as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike . He's still young so I live in hope .
Your not wrong, but let's be fair there was nothing for him to get onto.
Taken 4 points from 6 off of them...not a very entertaining game...my highlight was watching the kew bridge players rolling around on the floor holding their heads for every challenge
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on April 18, 2026, 03:20:35 PMTaken 4 points from 6 off of them...not a very entertaining game...my highlight was watching the kew bridge players rolling around on the floor holding their heads for every challenge
Did you even bother to warm up.
The defence did ok even Tim, Lukić worked hard & Wilson continues with his normal Fulham form. Iwobi was dreadful again while on.
Clearly from his antics on the sidelines, Marco was less than impressed with the team & neither were many of us I suspect.
Think I'd pass on signing Chuk.
As I said earlier, we are on the beach already with bags packed and passports stamped.
Disgraceful.
Quote from: alfie on April 18, 2026, 03:20:22 PMQuote from: bobbo on April 18, 2026, 03:01:56 PMWell , I hate players being slagged off for what ever reason , but today I thought Muniz was as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike . He's still young so I live in hope .
Your not wrong, but let's be fair there was nothing for him to get onto.
Reading BBC report comments by people.
One chap neutral I think stated,Muniz must be the worst player in the Premier.
Quote from: Deadcowboys on April 18, 2026, 03:25:22 PMThink I'd pass on signing Chuk.
I really liked Chukwueze when he first came on with us, had some good shows the first several games he played. Thought he just might be an integral player for us next season. However, the last handful of appearances has not been very good and quite unimpressive. Interesting decision to be made at seasons' end on whether or not to keep him.....
obviously not seen salah this season.
What a wasted opportunity. There was so much wrong with today's performance.Muniz was awful, but then he had dreadful service.
The passing was off, the defence set up so badly at corners-who on earth coaches them for that, it is terrible. And as for Leno's goal kicks...simply so self destructive it is untrue.
The bottom line is the recruitment has been really bad: Smith-Rowe is useless,Bobb looks so puny, Chucky after a good first few games is now really bad and even Bassey looks off it.Marco is definitelly not sorting this team out.So much a good coach would put right in one week.
Very poor today. Leno saved us and Andersons blushes for losing g the ball.
To much clowning about at the back, Carney going backwards, Muniz absent, couldn't hit the target again, poor build up, slow, lethargic. Lukic lucky not to be sent off.
Just shocking again
Quote from: SerbianLad on April 18, 2026, 03:19:39 PMPositives:
-midfield balance was much better today, I definitely prefer Lukic-TC to Berge-Iwobi
-last few minutes of both halfs aside, we looked comfortable defensively
-Leno was great today
-we didn't lose, so our hunt for Europe is still on
Negatives:
-our passing and decision making in the final third was dire for most of the match. We had superb buildup numerous times only to make mistakes in the final third
-Iwobi's injury
-didn't use this chance to get level on points with them and be in a very good position in our fight for European spots
-Both strikers didn't perform very well. Partially, though, because of what I said about our passing and decision making in the final third, so it's not all their fault. I see a lot of people blame Muniz, but to me Raul looked worse when he came on.
Zero chance we get Europe
Quote from: WindyCity on April 18, 2026, 03:43:59 PMQuote from: Deadcowboys on April 18, 2026, 03:25:22 PMThink I'd pass on signing Chuk.
I really liked Chukwueze when he first came on with us, had some good shows the first several games he played. Thought he just might be an integral player for us next season. However, the last handful of appearances has not been very good and quite unimpressive. Interesting decision to be made at seasons' end on whether or not to keep him.....
Hope we don't waste more money on players who can't get into the sides they play for.
Smith Rowe
Oscar Bobb
Chuck if we sign him.
Think these clubs see us coming.
Millions wasted.
Agree on not signing Chuk, got to be a better deal out there.
But i thought Brentford were going
too rip us a new one.
2 very overhyped teams in
a mediocre league.
Quote from: john dempsey on April 18, 2026, 04:05:41 PMBut i thought Brentford were going
too rip us a new one.
2 very overhyped teams in
a mediocre league.
They tried, could have had several from corners with their headers, not sure how we gave so many free headers like that
Quote from: alfie on April 18, 2026, 03:23:18 PMQuote from: H4usuallysitting on April 18, 2026, 03:20:35 PMTaken 4 points from 6 off of them...not a very entertaining game...my highlight was watching the kew bridge players rolling around on the floor holding their heads for every challenge
Did you even bother to warm up.
I didn't get the nod today....
I am starting to notice the pattern in how we get in "exciting players of quality" and the longer they are with us the less spectacular they seem to get. To me that must indicate that Marco bombards them with such intricate instructions and limits on their individual strengths as to "fit his system" so that when it comes down to it, most end up at a samey average level instead of standing out. Perhaps that is good for the team as a unit. But the individuals seem to suffer greatly from it, regardless of how much they like Marco and how smart they think his ideas are.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on April 18, 2026, 04:23:52 PMQuote from: alfie on April 18, 2026, 03:23:18 PMQuote from: H4usuallysitting on April 18, 2026, 03:20:35 PMTaken 4 points from 6 off of them...not a very entertaining game...my highlight was watching the kew bridge players rolling around on the floor holding their heads for every challenge
Did you even bother to warm up.
I didn't get the nod today....
No wonder we didn't do better.
It was dross, like last week.
Quote from: KentFulham on April 18, 2026, 04:19:52 PMQuote from: john dempsey on April 18, 2026, 04:05:41 PMBut i thought Brentford were going
too rip us a new one.
2 very overhyped teams in
a mediocre league.
They tried, could have had several from corners with their headers, not sure how we gave so many free headers like that
They tried but failed.
coulda, woulda, shoulda.
i have just bought a G Tech.
suck it up Brentford.
Dreary stuff. Although we are still only 3 points off a European place (I think) the 'attacking*' performance was a long way away (again). Defensively not bad but pretty nondescript offensively IMO. Is our season over?
Didn't have a shot on target and players lack any sort of coherence and in most cases regressing, I'm not sure what we're doing on the training ground but they might as well just do some gym work at this point. Leno saved our skins and Silva needs to stick or twist because it's 100% making us worse now
Quote from: Southcoastffc on April 18, 2026, 05:23:54 PMDreary stuff. Although we are still only 3 points off a European place (I think) the 'attacking*' performance was a long way away (again). Defensively not bad but pretty nondescript offensively IMO. Is our season over?
Didn't think the defense was terrible but sometimes they fell asleep, that save from Leno was only needed because Anderson picked up the ball and leisurely wondered out and got robbed from behind
Silva finally said it in the second half he put on smaller players hoping to attack better but it would be harder against their set play.Yes smaller players yes but are they billy bremners no please go a new coach is required.
Reading BBC report comments by people.
One chap neutral I think stated,Muniz must be the worst player in the Premier.
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He obviously hasn't watched Spurs this season
And the Magic £100m player Wilson managed to hitthe corner flag when he was clear through on goal
Another one who has checked out
https://x.com/UnitedUpdates/status/2045550612104835514
Should have been a red for this. No booking for elbow to the face of Andersen by Thiago. Jensen did the same thing Lukic got booked for and didn't get booked. No booking for Lewis-Potter for either of the two "professional" fouls he made to stop Bobb, a lot of little fouls called for Brentford while Muniz was given nothing and he was constantly pulled by their defenders, stopping our counter because two Brentford players collided, etc. Referees were garbage as well today.
Very doubtful Europe
Chuck isnt worth the funds with how he plays
Far to many lightweight players in the squad
No real captain material
Muniz is very very poor, lost confidence or just not at the required level
Raul, has been wonderful but we need a pair of new Strikers
Style we play is easily countered, far to much piddling around at the back
Think MS taken us as far as he can. We need fresh ideas
Leno motm
This is not a team on the beach in my opinion because that would suggest their mind is elsewhere and not trying but this lack of spark has been consistent throughout the season, even in games we won.
To use a description I've used before, this team is like a nice picture produced by painting by numbers.
You can see what it is and it looks neat but there's no quality, no inspiration, no heart!
I blame the players and the coach, there's no personalities strong enough to read the game and affect it in a positive manner.
E.G. Not picking on him but TC started brightly but soon was playing safe balls in little triangles and going nowhere.
It was pretty poor across the board. Muniz didn't have a good day but you can remember one ball in the box or through ball he could have done anything with ?
I'm sure all the clubs who were rubbing their hands and getting Wilson on a free will all be thinking ' off the 200k a week offer ' after the last half a dozen games
Been to Forest, Liverpool & now Brentford. No goals scored in either game.
Most damning of Silva is that we've become boring to watch - something he hasn't had to contend with till now.
Today was dreadful (reflective of a dreadful standard of football in the entire league). The attack is non functioning at the moment.
The bad: Muniz, Smith Rowe, Bobb, Chukwueze, Iwobi - all dreadful out there. Everyone so tentative and lacking in spark. It's so bad, I'm not sure what the solution is. Nothing is working. Kevin has gained the most from this barren run, at least he drives forward.
Thought Lukic & Cairney worked OK, but ran out of puff. Do think two new CMs is a priority. Since Andreas & Jao left we look so weak and lacking in a press.
The Good: Leno, Bassey & Sess (our most dangerous attacker!). Thought Andersen was dreadful on the ball and got bailed out by Leno. Poor Diop must wonder what he needs to do to start.
We're still in the European mix, but seems unlikely. We look substantially worse than the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Everton. Bigger danger Leeds overtake us at this point.
That was as bad a watch as I have seen all season. But we weren't the only poor side out there and the other lot are apparently still in the hunt for Europe, so y'know.
Leno was tremendous and that save at the end was absolutley out of order.
Quote from: Jonny4 on April 18, 2026, 07:18:55 PMBeen to Forest, Liverpool & now Brentford. No goals scored in either game.
Most damning of Silva is that we've become boring to watch - something he hasn't had to contend with till now.
Today was dreadful (reflective of a dreadful standard of football in the entire league). The attack is non functioning at the moment.
The bad: Muniz, Smith Rowe, Bobb, Chukwueze, Iwobi - all dreadful out there. Everyone so tentative and lacking in spark. It's so bad, I'm not sure what the solution is. Nothing is working. Kevin has gained the most from this barren run, at least he drives forward.
Thought Lukic & Cairney worked OK, but ran out of puff. Do think two new CMs is a priority. Since Andreas & Jao left we look so weak and lacking in a press.
The Good: Leno, Bassey & Sess (our most dangerous attacker!). Thought Andersen was dreadful on the ball and got bailed out by Leno. Poor Diop must wonder what he needs to do to start.
We're still in the European mix, but seems unlikely. We look substantially worse than the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Everton. Bigger danger Leeds overtake us at this point.
Sorry I totally disagree with ESR being totally terrible, he was the only one who looked like pressing.
Quote from: alfie on April 18, 2026, 09:38:14 PMQuote from: Jonny4 on April 18, 2026, 07:18:55 PMBeen to Forest, Liverpool & now Brentford. No goals scored in either game.
Most damning of Silva is that we've become boring to watch - something he hasn't had to contend with till now.
Today was dreadful (reflective of a dreadful standard of football in the entire league). The attack is non functioning at the moment.
The bad: Muniz, Smith Rowe, Bobb, Chukwueze, Iwobi - all dreadful out there. Everyone so tentative and lacking in spark. It's so bad, I'm not sure what the solution is. Nothing is working. Kevin has gained the most from this barren run, at least he drives forward.
Thought Lukic & Cairney worked OK, but ran out of puff. Do think two new CMs is a priority. Since Andreas & Jao left we look so weak and lacking in a press.
The Good: Leno, Bassey & Sess (our most dangerous attacker!). Thought Andersen was dreadful on the ball and got bailed out by Leno. Poor Diop must wonder what he needs to do to start.
We're still in the European mix, but seems unlikely. We look substantially worse than the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Everton. Bigger danger Leeds overtake us at this point.
Sorry I totally disagree with ESR being totally terrible, he was the only one who looked like pressing.
Unfortunately I don't think pressing is enough for him - £35m and all he does is turn backwards or pass the back where it came. I don't think he's got the mentality to ever be a success, basically a tidy footballer and nothing more. Is impact on the game is negligible and it has been for two seasons. He's certainly not the only out there failing to meet the necessary standards, but as a marquee attacker playing #10 it's not nearly good enough.
Three goals and zero assists in 32 games? Rubbish. That's a big reason we don't score any goals or feed the strikers.
I am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Bees go Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
FFC go Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Marco Rinse & Repeat.
Agree with many of the posts above.
Special mention Andersen. OMG So bad.
Thank you Leno, top save.
An away point against a team in the top half of the table is never a bad point. This one was as close to being a bad point as they come.
When our opponents press, we struggle to break free. So we have got good at defending the consequences of not breaking the press. That's not as good as breaking the press.
When our opponents hold shape, there's insufficient devilment in the final third. Kevin's injured, Chukwueze can't or won't, HW is off the boil, ESR, Bobb they appear to lack confidence.
It's a confidence game, right now there's a cloud of uncertainty. I don't expect it to lift until the team know who next season's gaffer is going to be and where they stand.
Quote from: Zoppa77 on April 19, 2026, 03:38:02 AMBees go Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
FFC go Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Marco Rinse & Repeat.
Agree with many of the posts above.
Special mention Andersen. OMG So bad.
Thank you Leno, top save.
The Beezz were poor and the supposedly super striker was in either Bassey's or Anderson pocket all game
Quote from: KJS on April 19, 2026, 08:35:01 AMQuote from: Zoppa77 on April 19, 2026, 03:38:02 AMBees go Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
FFC go Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Marco Rinse & Repeat.
Agree with many of the posts above.
Special mention Andersen. OMG So bad.
Thank you Leno, top save.
The Beezz were poor and the supposedly super striker was in either Bassey's or Anderson pocket all game
TNT were giving man of the match to Andersen over Bassey until Leon's wonder save so I find the slating of Andersen by some very strange. Watching the game I have to agree with TNT.
I watched Brighton and the pace and movement they have was very exciting to watch. It really highlighted how little movement we have and how slow we are.
Quote from: KentFulham on April 19, 2026, 09:46:39 AMI watched Brighton and the pace and movement they have was very exciting to watch. It really highlighted how little movement we have and how slow we are.
And they drew that game (as well as the reverse fixture) against the terrible Spurs side that we beat both times we played them. They are also only 2 points ahead of us.
Quote from: KentFulham on April 19, 2026, 09:46:39 AMI watched Brighton and the pace and movement they have was very exciting to watch. It really highlighted how little movement we have and how slow we are.
I can assure you that has not been typical of their season. Maybe it's because Spurs are open and easy to play against. As a south coast resident surrounded by Seagull fans many of them are moaning about their manager, his substitutions and boring performances at home - sound familiar?
Quote from: SG on April 19, 2026, 10:01:32 AMQuote from: KentFulham on April 19, 2026, 09:46:39 AMI watched Brighton and the pace and movement they have was very exciting to watch. It really highlighted how little movement we have and how slow we are.
I can assure you that has not been typical of their season. Maybe it's because Spurs are open and easy to play against. As a south coast resident surrounded by Seagull fans many of them are moaning about their manager, his substitutions and boring performances at home - sound familiar?
To be fair, spurs made us look good too
Quote from: bahay18 on April 18, 2026, 06:52:05 PMIt was pretty poor across the board. Muniz didn't have a good day but you can remember one ball in the box or through ball he could have done anything with ?
I'm sure all the clubs who were rubbing their hands and getting Wilson on a free will all be thinking ' off the 200k a week offer ' after the last half a dozen games
now world cup interest is over Wilson back to playing his usual game.
Quote from: HobGoblin on April 18, 2026, 06:40:18 PMFar to many lightweight players in the squad
This is a good point. We need to get some of our forwards in the gym over the summer, notably King (although he'll naturally get stronger as he grows into his body).
Quote from: LittleErn on April 18, 2026, 11:42:22 PMI am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.
We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays
It was that riveting that the match commentary team started showing the M4 and talking about this!
What is really annoying is that we are only 3 points behind our billionaire strugglers up the road. ::tongue::
Quote from: Jonny4 on April 18, 2026, 11:09:12 PMQuote from: alfie on April 18, 2026, 09:38:14 PMQuote from: Jonny4 on April 18, 2026, 07:18:55 PMBeen to Forest, Liverpool & now Brentford. No goals scored in either game.
Most damning of Silva is that we've become boring to watch - something he hasn't had to contend with till now.
Today was dreadful (reflective of a dreadful standard of football in the entire league). The attack is non functioning at the moment.
The bad: Muniz, Smith Rowe, Bobb, Chukwueze, Iwobi - all dreadful out there. Everyone so tentative and lacking in spark. It's so bad, I'm not sure what the solution is. Nothing is working. Kevin has gained the most from this barren run, at least he drives forward.
Thought Lukic & Cairney worked OK, but ran out of puff. Do think two new CMs is a priority. Since Andreas & Jao left we look so weak and lacking in a press.
The Good: Leno, Bassey & Sess (our most dangerous attacker!). Thought Andersen was dreadful on the ball and got bailed out by Leno. Poor Diop must wonder what he needs to do to start.
We're still in the European mix, but seems unlikely. We look substantially worse than the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Everton. Bigger danger Leeds overtake us at this point.
Sorry I totally disagree with ESR being totally terrible, he was the only one who looked like pressing.
Unfortunately I don't think pressing is enough for him - £35m and all he does is turn backwards or pass the back where it came. I don't think he's got the mentality to ever be a success, basically a tidy footballer and nothing more. Is impact on the game is negligible and it has been for two seasons. He's certainly not the only out there failing to meet the necessary standards, but as a marquee attacker playing #10 it's not nearly good enough.
Three goals and zero assists in 32 games? Rubbish. That's a big reason we don't score any goals or feed the strikers.
He is a quick short passing player and at Arsenal he had players around him that were of the same mould, unfortunately here he doesn't have that, especially as Silva seems to want to play a slow defensive game, any flare he has will soon be driven out of him.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on April 18, 2026, 07:32:46 PMThat was as bad a watch as I have seen all season. But we weren't the only poor side out there and the other lot are apparently still in the hunt for Europe, so y'know.
Leno was tremendous and that save at the end was absolutley out of order.
Was it a Timex
Quote from: 3rdgenfan on April 19, 2026, 11:09:00 AMQuote from: LittleErn on April 18, 2026, 11:42:22 PMI am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.
We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays
40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling
Quote from: KentFulham on April 19, 2026, 07:02:49 PMQuote from: 3rdgenfan on April 19, 2026, 11:09:00 AMQuote from: LittleErn on April 18, 2026, 11:42:22 PMI am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.
We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays
40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling
Apart from being what I'll generously call a half glass full merchant, perhaps you aren't a finance man. We're doing OK. Just need awareness and good business management, which we seem to have.
Quote from: KentFulham on April 19, 2026, 07:02:49 PMQuote from: 3rdgenfan on April 19, 2026, 11:09:00 AMQuote from: LittleErn on April 18, 2026, 11:42:22 PMI am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.
We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays
40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling
Spot on, on all accounts. Never get an offer like that again.
Quote from: KentFulham on April 19, 2026, 07:02:49 PMQuote from: 3rdgenfan on April 19, 2026, 11:09:00 AMQuote from: LittleErn on April 18, 2026, 11:42:22 PMI am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.
We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays
40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling
If we had sold Muniz last summer this board would have had a melt-down.
Quote from: 3rdgenfan on April 19, 2026, 11:09:00 AMQuote from: LittleErn on April 18, 2026, 11:42:22 PMI am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.
We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays
I think this is just low hanging fruit. We have gone from a Pereira led creative attack to a systematic progressive forward passing team. Both fine in their own rights, but I think the creative loss of unpredictability that Pereira brought is starting to show when a team like us becomes one dimensional. Our strikers are suffering because we don't have good enough crossers of the ball, and we have very stock players that play in the 10 such as ESR who plays short on the ground and Josh King who is a typical 1v1 speed youth player that tries to play to feet or space, but in smaller spaces as well.
When ever people go on about munis I keep on thinking of silva kept on about how he told the club to buy him.Well as he has held us to ransom hope he pays his wages and takes him with him at the end of the season kill two birds with 1 stone.
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on April 20, 2026, 02:36:51 AMQuote from: KentFulham on April 19, 2026, 07:02:49 PMQuote from: 3rdgenfan on April 19, 2026, 11:09:00 AMQuote from: LittleErn on April 18, 2026, 11:42:22 PMI am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.
We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays
40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling
If we had sold Muniz last summer this board would have had a melt-down.
Based on his stats for this season we would not have missed him though
Quote from: KentFulham on April 20, 2026, 07:07:28 PMQuote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on April 20, 2026, 02:36:51 AMQuote from: KentFulham on April 19, 2026, 07:02:49 PMQuote from: 3rdgenfan on April 19, 2026, 11:09:00 AMQuote from: LittleErn on April 18, 2026, 11:42:22 PMI am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.
We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays
40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling
If we had sold Muniz last summer this board would have had a melt-down.
Based on his stats for this season we would not have missed him though
Okay Captain Hindsight. Are you seriously suggesting we should've known he'd be shite this season after his incredible 24/25 season, where he was capable of dismantling the likes of Liverpool and Chelsea?
People seem to forget a fully fit Muniz, aged 23?, was at one point the most prolific striker in the league.
People seem desperate for instant gratification these days, and that's never been how the real world actually works.
Things take time. He's been out a lot of this season.. you just need to look at how reliable Wilson and Jimenez had become with consistent game time, when in pervious seasons they had struggled being in and out of the team.
As a young striker who can score in this league and has room for development before reaching his peak, he's definitely worth keeping around as a second striker and, if he gets back up to scratch, maybe a first team regular.
We obviously need a more reliable forward line, and our lack of goals isn't just Muniz related, but Wilson, Bobb, King, ESR, Iwobi etc related.
We've all known we've needed another option up front, and had we got in pepi in Jan, or someone else then or even before, then this season or second half of a season could've been a completely different proposition..
There are 3 points between us and 6th, with all to play for. That's not only indicative of us as a team and squad, but the general playing field across the PL being pretty tight and with few teams really charging on and having great seasons.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 20, 2026, 02:01:21 AMQuote from: KentFulham on April 19, 2026, 07:02:49 PMQuote from: 3rdgenfan on April 19, 2026, 11:09:00 AMQuote from: LittleErn on April 18, 2026, 11:42:22 PMI am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.
We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays
40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling
Spot on, on all accounts. Never get an offer like that again.
Hindsight is wonderful. did you say that at the time?
Looking back I'm devastated we didn't pick up Raul when he was 21...what was our club thinking
I remember when Anguissa left, a lot of people said "good riddance", there was a thread about him being "the worst purchase in PL history" etc. He turned out be quite OK I would say.
And I am one hundred percent certain that if we sold Muniz and he turned out alright, these comments would be all about "how could we let him go, such incompetency."
Perhaps it is not always about the player, but the system and setup that they play in.
Quote from: LittleErn on April 24, 2026, 04:29:35 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 20, 2026, 02:01:21 AMQuote from: KentFulham on April 19, 2026, 07:02:49 PMQuote from: 3rdgenfan on April 19, 2026, 11:09:00 AMQuote from: LittleErn on April 18, 2026, 11:42:22 PMI am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.
We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays
40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling
Spot on, on all accounts. Never get an offer like that again.
Hindsight is wonderful. did you say that at the time?
Damm right I did, and came in for the usual being negative stick as he will come good etc. Outside one purple patch he has never come good
Quote from: demeant0r on April 20, 2026, 07:31:36 PMQuote from: KentFulham on April 20, 2026, 07:07:28 PMQuote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on April 20, 2026, 02:36:51 AMQuote from: KentFulham on April 19, 2026, 07:02:49 PMQuote from: 3rdgenfan on April 19, 2026, 11:09:00 AMQuote from: LittleErn on April 18, 2026, 11:42:22 PMI am surprised how many on here persist in making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.
He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.
Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.
Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.
We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays
40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling
If we had sold Muniz last summer this board would have had a melt-down.
Based on his stats for this season we would not have missed him though
Okay Captain Hindsight. Are you seriously suggesting we should've known he'd be shite this season after his incredible 24/25 season, where he was capable of dismantling the likes of Liverpool and Chelsea?
He didnt have an incredible season did he, he had good stats for about 7 games