If we play like yesterday for Bournemouth (H) Wolves (A) and Newcastle (H) that's 9 points.
We played with much more press and urgency yesterday which was great. Previous weeks that TC cross would have been a foot on the ball, stop, recycle etc and killed the momentum, great to see us not do that.
The above gives 57 point with the option of something from Arsenal.
Is Europe back on, and how many places are up for grabs?
I believe we have 8 points from the last five games, I think? Yesterday was Fulhamish all over, typical of this team. I thought 55 points might be enough depending places and just scrabbling a Conference league place, but who knows. More than anything I'm just glad we turned up and put in a better performance.
All to play for COYW
Yeah, 57 points should do it, particularly if we can get all three points from Bournemouth who are competing with us for Europe.
Brentford have got to play both Citeh and Man U.
Bournemouth and Everton still have Man City.
Chelsea still have to play Liverpool.
Brighton have the easiest run in IMO.
We've still got Arsenal, Bournemouth and Newcastle. Hopefully Wolves are on the beach for us.
Could be an interesting last month.
With both Sunderland and Everton slipping and both Chelsea and Brentford struggling, if we draw with Arsenal and win the last 3 we might just squeak through, our goal difference is a problem and could see us get jumped if another side draws level, just need other results to go our way starting with Man U beating Brentford
Let's not speak of Europe because Fulham being Fulham, we might get disappointed again
Quote from: FFC007 on April 26, 2026, 09:09:50 AMBrentford have got to play both Citeh and Man U.
Bournemouth and Everton still have Man City.
Chelsea still have to play Liverpool.
Brighton have the easiest run in IMO.
We've still got Arsenal, Bournemouth and Newcastle. Hopefully Wolves are on the beach for us.
Could be an interesting last month.
Interestingly we've only lost two out of our last seven pl games, against Liverpool and West Ham.
Our away form isn't the best, but our home form is much better..
We play arsenal away, which most would wisely not count us getting anything from.
Our Bournemouth and Newcastle games are both at home, which arguably slightly tilt those games in our favour.. Newcastle also struggling to get results at the moment.
Wolves is away but their form is hit and miss there though actually better than iexpected having won 2 and drawn 1 of their last six at molineux.
Crazy how tight the league is.
Quote from: General on April 26, 2026, 09:55:38 AMQuote from: FFC007 on April 26, 2026, 09:09:50 AMBrentford have got to play both Citeh and Man U.
Bournemouth and Everton still have Man City.
Chelsea still have to play Liverpool.
Brighton have the easiest run in IMO.
We've still got Arsenal, Bournemouth and Newcastle. Hopefully Wolves are on the beach for us.
Could be an interesting last month.
Interestingly we've only lost two out of our last seven pl games, against Liverpool and West Ham.
Our away form isn't the best, but our home form is much better..
We play arsenal away, which most would wisely not count us getting anything from.
Our Bournemouth and Newcastle games are both at home, which arguably slightly tilt those games in our favour.. Newcastle also struggling to get results at the moment.
Wolves is away but their form is hit and miss there though actually better than iexpected having won 2 and drawn 1 of their last six at molineux.
Crazy how tight the league is.
Arsenal v Fulham, Bournemouth v Man City, Everton v Man City and Brentford v Man City basically nullify each other.. as it's doubtful anyone will get anything from those.
Fulham v Bournemouth is now a huge game for Europe. Definitely in the must not lose category.
So it's a three game shootout as far as I'm concerned, Brighton still have Man U on the last day so that could be tricky too.
Palace are on the beach already and have Europe as their primary focus, Newcastle really have diddly squat to play for either after last night.
Spurs v Everton on the last day could be a blockbuster for both ends of the table.
Arsenal we could get something but 0pts
Bournemouth 1pt but 3 would be great
Wolves must win 3pts
Newcastle must win 3pts. 7pts total 55pts overall. Could be enough 🤞
Quote from: FFC007 on April 26, 2026, 12:24:37 PMQuote from: General on April 26, 2026, 09:55:38 AMQuote from: FFC007 on April 26, 2026, 09:09:50 AMBrentford have got to play both Citeh and Man U.
Bournemouth and Everton still have Man City.
Chelsea still have to play Liverpool.
Brighton have the easiest run in IMO.
We've still got Arsenal, Bournemouth and Newcastle. Hopefully Wolves are on the beach for us.
Could be an interesting last month.
Interestingly we've only lost two out of our last seven pl games, against Liverpool and West Ham.
Our away form isn't the best, but our home form is much better..
We play arsenal away, which most would wisely not count us getting anything from.
Our Bournemouth and Newcastle games are both at home, which arguably slightly tilt those games in our favour.. Newcastle also struggling to get results at the moment.
Wolves is away but their form is hit and miss there though actually better than iexpected having won 2 and drawn 1 of their last six at molineux.
Crazy how tight the league is.
Arsenal v Fulham, Bournemouth v Man City, Everton v Man City and Brentford v Man City basically nullify each other.. as it's doubtful anyone will get anything from those.
Fulham v Bournemouth is now a huge game for Europe. Definitely in the must not lose category.
So it's a three game shootout as far as I'm concerned, Brighton still have Man U on the last day so that could be tricky too.
Palace are on the beach already and have Europe as their primary focus, Newcastle really have diddly squat to play for either after last night.
Spurs v Everton on the last day could be a blockbuster for both ends of the table.
Fair assessment.
Interestingly, for all the doom and gloom on this board about performances and uncertainty around Marco and Harry, if you had said at any other time in our PL history that we'd still be in with a chance of Europe with 4 games to go and just two points off 6th, and 6 points off equalling our best ever points tally, most fans would've taken it, thought we'd have had a pretty good season.. just goes to show how weird the dynamics are in the league at the moment.
It's not inconceivable, but to me feels unlikely. We'd need to put in 4-5 good performances in a row (including yesterday's game), which we haven't done this season.
Would be fantastic if we can keep up that desire and intensity. I find we're at our best when we have something to prove, and then drop off a little.
The way we have been playing but still getting to where we are in the league is surprising to me, but with four cup finals left, let's go for it.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on April 26, 2026, 04:01:41 PMThe way we have been playing but still getting to where we are in the league is surprising to me, but with four cup finals left, let's go for it.
I suppose it's because everyone is playing as inconsitently as we are
It was just a week ago that you were saying after the Brentford game that there was "zero chance of Europe". Now after one win and a week later you're wondering how many points we might need to get into Europe.
Strange old world.
57 gets us in easy, but getting 9 points from the games you outlined is incredibly difficult.
Quote from: The Little Dave on April 26, 2026, 04:39:18 PM57 gets us in easy, but getting 9 points from the games you outlined is incredibly difficult.
Is two home wins and a win against a relegated Wolves that difficult thou?
Quote from: KentFulham on April 26, 2026, 06:31:36 PMQuote from: The Little Dave on April 26, 2026, 04:39:18 PM57 gets us in easy, but getting 9 points from the games you outlined is incredibly difficult.
Is two home wins and a win against a relegated Wolves that difficult thou?
I am not really religious but i think
i am witnessing an actual
Damascene moment here.
The most Fulhamish thing ever would be to beat Arsenal, thus shattering their title hopes again, beat Bournemouth and then f it up at Wolves 🤦
What amazes me we've come back from the Beach this week after the Bus Stop game the Bags were packed now Villa have been defeated all plans cancelled.
Quote from: KentFulham on April 26, 2026, 06:31:36 PMQuote from: The Little Dave on April 26, 2026, 04:39:18 PM57 gets us in easy, but getting 9 points from the games you outlined is incredibly difficult.
Is two home wins and a win against a relegated Wolves that difficult thou?
Yes, it is.
Technically, we still have a chance. If we win both of our games, we'd need Brentford to win no more than two points from Palace and Liverpool(or 3 points but we manage to overcome their current goal difference advantage, which will be tough considering there are only two games left), we'd also need Chelsea not to win one of their games at least(a win and a draw is completely fine) from their last two against Spurs and Sunderland and finally, we need Everton to get maximum of 5 points from Palace, Sunderland and Spurs(or 6 points but we manage to overcome their current goal difference advantage). Alternatively, one of those 3 things doesn't have to happen, but Brighton would have to lose against both Leeds and Manchester Unitedo(the difference in the goal difference between our two teams is so big,+16 at the moment, so I dont think a draw and a loss is going to be enough even in theory)
That appraisal began to lose something at "If we win both of our games..." on our current form...
We would have won if Anderson wasn't a donkey.
It's out of our hands, but we aren't playing bad. The new "Sideways Marco", but not bad.
Quote from: ron on May 09, 2026, 08:55:54 PMThat appraisal began to lose something at "If we win both of our games..." on our current form...
That's another part of the reason why I wrote "Technically". There are various unrealistic parts there. That being said, us winning the last two games, even in our current form, is probably the least unrealistic part, considering who we play.
Why oh why do posts go on about Europe qualification, when at the same time go on and on about how shite we are??
If we are as bad as many say, then getting into Europe will see us relegated with our limited squad!
We need to slowly improve year on year and then go for europe, surely?
Personally, I don't think we are ready as yet, although feel optimistic if we continue to build.
Kevin, ESR, King, Bobb, Muniz, Bassey etc all young and we can build around.
Older solid players Lukic, Berge, Cairney etc are useful whilst building.
We desperately need another striker and strengthen defence but it will take time.
Quote from: The Rock on May 09, 2026, 09:18:44 PMWe would have won if Anderson wasn't a donkey.
It's out of our hands, but we aren't playing bad. The new "Sideways Marco", but not bad.
What.lol
We can't score,so how could we have won.
Quote from: Coastwalker on May 09, 2026, 09:53:48 PMWhat.lol
We can't score,so how could we have won.
Come on, we hit the crossbar two times today and Muniz hit a header inches wide. We were pretty close to scoring. It's not unimaginable that we'd score a goal if it stayed 11v10
Quote from: SerbianLad on May 09, 2026, 09:58:55 PMQuote from: Coastwalker on May 09, 2026, 09:53:48 PMWhat.lol
We can't score,so how could we have won.
Come on, we hit the crossbar two times today and Muniz hit a header inches wide. We were pretty close to scoring. It's not unimaginable that we'd score a goal if it stayed 11v10
I'm afraid hitting the crossbar and headers inches wide,don't count as goals.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on May 09, 2026, 09:48:28 PMWhy oh why do posts go on about Europe qualification, when at the same time go on and on about how shite we are??
If we are as bad as many say, then getting into Europe will see us relegated with our limited squad!
We need to slowly improve year on year and then go for europe, surely?
Personally, I don't think we are ready as yet, although feel optimistic if we continue to build.
Kevin, ESR, King, Bobb, Muniz, Bassey etc all young and we can build around.
Older solid players Lukic, Berge, Cairney etc are useful whilst building.
We desperately need another striker and strengthen defence but it will take time.
I agree. We aren't ready for Europe.
Getting into Europe now would feel a bit like getting promoted under Parker. We got the results, but we were never truly convincing. Even if we had picked up the results needed during the run in to qualify, I don't think we would've gone on a special European run.
Sneaking into Europe through the back door would probably lead the club to view this season as a success and it would mean the bigger issues don't get addressed.
If we get the right manager, I do think there's a good base to build from. A new spine with Bassey, Sess, King, Bobb, Kevin and Muniz as key players could be exciting. But the club's overall strategy needs to change. I like that we're signing younger players, but too often it feels like we're paying big fees based on hype and potential resale value, rather than properly scouting whether they actually fit the style of football we want to play.
Next season has to be a year of change and transition. Realistically, I don't think we should be looking at playing in Europe until 2028/29 and that's only if we get the next few decisions right.
Quote from: ElRay on May 10, 2026, 08:51:46 AMQuote from: BestOfBrede on May 09, 2026, 09:48:28 PMWhy oh why do posts go on about Europe qualification, when at the same time go on and on about how shite we are??
If we are as bad as many say, then getting into Europe will see us relegated with our limited squad!
We need to slowly improve year on year and then go for europe, surely?
Personally, I don't think we are ready as yet, although feel optimistic if we continue to build.
Kevin, ESR, King, Bobb, Muniz, Bassey etc all young and we can build around.
Older solid players Lukic, Berge, Cairney etc are useful whilst building.
We desperately need another striker and strengthen defence but it will take time.
I agree. We aren't ready for Europe.
Getting into Europe now would feel a bit like getting promoted under Parker. We got the results, but we were never truly convincing. Even if we had picked up the results needed during the run in to qualify, I don't think we would've gone on a special European run.
Sneaking into Europe through the back door would probably lead the club to view this season as a success and it would mean the bigger issues don't get addressed.
If we get the right manager, I do think there's a good base to build from. A new spine with Bassey, Sess, King, Bobb, Kevin and Muniz as key players could be exciting. But the club's overall strategy needs to change. I like that we're signing younger players, but too often it feels like we're paying big fees based on hype and potential resale value, rather than properly scouting whether they actually fit the style of football we want to play.
Next season has to be a year of change and transition. Realistically, I don't think we should be looking at playing in Europe until 2028/29 and that's only if we get the next few decisions right.
Agree with exception of Muniz, he needs to go, there is no decent footballer there. We also need to improve in terms of selling at the right time
Quote from: Coastwalker on May 10, 2026, 07:51:51 AMQuote from: SerbianLad on May 09, 2026, 09:58:55 PMQuote from: Coastwalker on May 09, 2026, 09:53:48 PMWhat.lol
We can't score,so how could we have won.
Come on, we hit the crossbar two times today and Muniz hit a header inches wide. We were pretty close to scoring. It's not unimaginable that we'd score a goal if it stayed 11v10
I'm afraid hitting the crossbar and headers inches wide,don't count as goals.
But it means that we were very close. We've had more shots and more xG than them. If it stayed 11v10, I'm pretty sure we would have scored at least once.
Quote from: SerbianLad on May 10, 2026, 09:32:54 AMQuote from: Coastwalker on May 10, 2026, 07:51:51 AMQuote from: SerbianLad on May 09, 2026, 09:58:55 PMQuote from: Coastwalker on May 09, 2026, 09:53:48 PMWhat.lol
We can't score,so how could we have won.
Come on, we hit the crossbar two times today and Muniz hit a header inches wide. We were pretty close to scoring. It's not unimaginable that we'd score a goal if it stayed 11v10
I'm afraid hitting the crossbar and headers inches wide,don't count as goals.
But it means that we were very close. We've had more shots and more xG than them. If it stayed 11v10, I'm pretty sure we would have scored at least once.
That's living in a hypothetical world,if if if..
They managed to score with ten men,you forgetting that.
If we played till midnight Muniz wouldn't have scored.
How is it possible that for every 3 fouls by FFC we
got a yellow card.
But Bournemouth only got a yellow card for
every 11 fouls ?
this seems a bit strange to me.
Quote from: The Rock on May 09, 2026, 09:18:44 PMWe would have won if Anderson wasn't a donkey.
It's out of our hands, but we aren't playing bad. The new "Sideways Marco", but not bad.
"Might" have won.
Quote from: Coastwalker on May 10, 2026, 10:17:15 AMThat's living in a hypothetical world,if if if..
They managed to score with ten men,you forgetting that.
If we played till midnight Muniz wouldn't have scored.
They scored with 10 men against 10 men. 11v11 or 11v10, they didn't look like they were going to score a goal, and I'd bet they wouldn't have scored a goal if Andersen didn't get sent off.
The Palace-Everton score keeps our, albeit minimal, chances of Europe alive.
Palace have shown they still have some fight left in them, at last, so hopefully they'll put on a similar performance vs Brentford later on.
We need Everton to lose or draw at least one of their final two games against Sunderland and Spurs, coincidentally, we need the exact same thing against exact same teams for Chelsea. A draw and a win is completely fine. Additionally we need Brentford to win 2 points or less against Palace and Liverpool (or 3 points if we somehow managed to overcome their goal difference advantage). Obviously, we would need to win both of our games.
It's not ideal that we are relying on Spurs, Sunderland, Palace and Liverpool, but today's result made me optimistic again. There is definitely still a chance for us.
Even if we win our last two games - I have a bad feeling that Brentford will finish above us on goal difference and take the last European spot.
This being the case I think I would prefer we draw at Wolves and then a win on the last day, so we don't have to suffer that degree of misery of missing out by such a fine margin!
Quote from: john dempsey on May 10, 2026, 10:18:33 AMHow is it possible that for every 3 fouls by FFC we
got a yellow card.
But Bournemouth only got a yellow card for
every 11 fouls ?
this seems a bit strange to me.
Part of the difference was how scared we were of their pace and cutting edge on the break. Once one of their players got goalside of ours, out would come the arms and a yellow was taken "for the team". Bournemouth weren't especially scared of our players ability to break and did this far less.
Incidentally this seemed also the underlying reason Cairney played so deep, sometimes as the very last man, because if a Bournemouth player got goalside of him there's very little chance he could do anything useful about it, arms or no arms.
Much of the shape of the game seemed dictated by how every player on the pitch knew how much more potent Bournemouth were. Their midfield ability to carve through, slipping clever balls just out of reach was impressive. This is probably what too European teams see in Bournemouth players and it's one heck of a business model.
Quote from: Carborundum on May 10, 2026, 04:45:37 PMQuote from: john dempsey on May 10, 2026, 10:18:33 AMHow is it possible that for every 3 fouls by FFC we
got a yellow card.
But Bournemouth only got a yellow card for
every 11 fouls ?
this seems a bit strange to me.
Part of the difference was how scared we were of their pace and cutting edge on the break. Once one of their players got goalside of ours, out would come the arms and a yellow was taken "for the team". Bournemouth weren't especially scared of our players ability to break and did this far less.
Incidentally this seemed also the underlying reason Cairney played so deep, sometimes as the very last man, because if a Bournemouth player got goalside of him there's very little chance he could do anything useful about it, arms or no arms.
Much of the shape of the game seemed dictated by how every player on the pitch knew how much more potent Bournemouth were. Their midfield ability to carve through, slipping clever balls just out of reach was impressive. This is probably what too European teams see in Bournemouth players and it's one heck of a business model.
I'm sorry, and this isn't just you I've seen multiple people say similar things, but Bournemouth definitely didn't carve us open or been better than us. They've scored a long distance deflected goal and had one good chance late on. Even in the second half, we created more and better chances(if you look at xG that is true too, we've had 0.69 compared to their 0.66 xG in the second half, and in the first we had 0.64 compared to 0.14). I don't recall Leno making a big save or something.
We were the better team overall, even if we weren't amazing in the second half.
West Ham playing decently. We could use a West Ham win today. It would keep Spurs in a lot of trouble which is good for us as we meed them to get something in their last 2 matches.
Added bonus for me is it stops Arsenal from winning the title.
Quote from: SerbianLad on May 10, 2026, 04:56:19 PMQuote from: Carborundum on May 10, 2026, 04:45:37 PMQuote from: john dempsey on May 10, 2026, 10:18:33 AMHow is it possible that for every 3 fouls by FFC we
got a yellow card.
But Bournemouth only got a yellow card for
every 11 fouls ?
this seems a bit strange to me.
Part of the difference was how scared we were of their pace and cutting edge on the break. Once one of their players got goalside of ours, out would come the arms and a yellow was taken "for the team". Bournemouth weren't especially scared of our players ability to break and did this far less.
Incidentally this seemed also the underlying reason Cairney played so deep, sometimes as the very last man, because if a Bournemouth player got goalside of him there's very little chance he could do anything useful about it, arms or no arms.
Much of the shape of the game seemed dictated by how every player on the pitch knew how much more potent Bournemouth were. Their midfield ability to carve through, slipping clever balls just out of reach was impressive. This is probably what too European teams see in Bournemouth players and it's one heck of a business model.
I'm sorry, and this isn't just you I've seen multiple people say similar things, but Bournemouth definitely didn't carve us open or been better than us. They've scored a long distance deflected goal and had one good chance late on. Even in the second half, we created more and better chances(if you look at xG that is true too, we've had 0.69 compared to their 0.66 xG in the second half, and in the first we had 0.64 compared to 0.14). I don't recall Leno making a big save or something.
We were the better team overall, even if we weren't amazing in the second half.
You keep going on about chances,but it boils down to we can't put them away...Its the same everywhere teams miss chances.
And the Cherries were miles ahead of us,Get them rose coloured specs off...We're rubbish at the moment,and have been for a while.
Quote from: Coastwalker on May 10, 2026, 05:24:58 PMYou keep going on about chances,but it boils down to we can't put them away...Its the same everywhere teams miss chances.
And the Cherries were miles ahead of us,Get them rose coloured specs off...We're rubbish at the moment,and have been for a while.
That's because our wingers and strikers are out of form. Our defence and midfield is doing a fine job recently. Also we hit the crossbar two times, that's not just poor finishing, that's being unlucky too.
We absolutely weren't the worse team vs Bournemouth. I thought 0-0 would have been a fair result.
Quote from: SerbianLad on May 10, 2026, 05:28:08 PMQuote from: Coastwalker on May 10, 2026, 05:24:58 PMYou keep going on about chances,but it boils down to we can't put them away...Its the same everywhere teams miss chances.
And the Cherries were miles ahead of us,Get them rose coloured specs off...We're rubbish at the moment,and have been for a while.
That's because our wingers and strikers are out of form. Our defence and midfield is doing a fine job recently. Also we hit the crossbar two times, that's not just poor finishing, that's being unlucky too.
We absolutely weren't the worse team vs Bournemouth. I thought 0-0 would have been a fair result.
Last reply...lots of teams hit the woodwork,sometimes when it's easier to score,it's not unlucky.
If Raul was playing and had the headed chances Muniz had,then we might of got something out of the game.
Quote from: Coastwalker on May 10, 2026, 05:32:22 PMQuote from: SerbianLad on May 10, 2026, 05:28:08 PMQuote from: Coastwalker on May 10, 2026, 05:24:58 PMYou keep going on about chances,but it boils down to we can't put them away...Its the same everywhere teams miss chances.
And the Cherries were miles ahead of us,Get them rose coloured specs off...We're rubbish at the moment,and have been for a while.
That's because our wingers and strikers are out of form. Our defence and midfield is doing a fine job recently. Also we hit the crossbar two times, that's not just poor finishing, that's being unlucky too.
We absolutely weren't the worse team vs Bournemouth. I thought 0-0 would have been a fair result.
Last reply...lots of teams hit the woodwork,sometimes when it's easier to score,it's not unlucky.
If Raul was playing and had the headed chances Muniz had,then we might of got something out of the game.
We can't know that + Raul was obviously unavailable as it was JKA who came on and not Raul, so it's a moot point anyway
Bye Bye.
Quote from: SerbianLad on May 10, 2026, 04:03:33 PMThe Palace-Everton score keeps our, albeit minimal, chances of Europe alive.
Palace have shown they still have some fight left in them, at last, so hopefully they'll put on a similar performance vs Brentford later on.
We need Everton to lose or draw at least one of their final two games against Sunderland and Spurs, coincidentally, we need the exact same thing against exact same teams for Chelsea. A draw and a win is completely fine. Additionally we need Brentford to win 2 points or less against Palace and Liverpool (or 3 points if we somehow managed to overcome their goal difference advantage). Obviously, we would need to win both of our games.
It's not ideal that we are relying on Spurs, Sunderland, Palace and Liverpool, but today's result made me optimistic again. There is definitely still a chance for us.
Update:
West Ham loss isn't ideal for our chances, as Spurs can now go 4 points clear of West Ham tomorrow and then they might not need to fight hard in the last 2 matches and we need them to.
Quote from: Lordedmundo on May 10, 2026, 04:22:57 PMEven if we win our last two games - I have a bad feeling that Brentford will finish above us on goal difference and take the last European spot.
This being the case I think I would prefer we draw at Wolves and then a win on the last day, so we don't have to suffer that degree of misery of missing out by such a fine margin!
I hope they do, as they also will struggle with Europe plus Prem football imo.
Like us - not a big squad and injuries play a massive part.
I hope they get the spot and go down, we take our time and get there withabloomin good chance of success ::scarf::
(Hopefully before I'm too old to see it!)
Hmm just a few years then Mr Khan!!
Spurs result is good for our chances. This means Spurs still have something to play for, at least in their next match.
Quote from: SerbianLad on May 11, 2026, 10:14:39 PMSpurs result is good for our chances. This means Spurs still have something to play for, at least in their next match.
- City win the FA cup
- Fulham beat Wolves
- Brentford don't beat Palace OR Brighton lose at Leeds
These results would mean it goes to the final day
If you humour me and add in Everton dropping points to Sunderland and Spurs getting something at Chelsea...we'd very suddenly be favourites to qualify based on final day fixtures
Lets face it, it's a long shot, but makes this weekend a little more interesting at the very least. If we took it to the final day who knows what could happen
If Sunderland and Spurs get something at Everton and Chelsea respectively with Brentford dropping points vs Palace, and we beat Wolves, the only result we'd need to go our way on final day is Liverpool-Brentford where we'd need Brentford to fail to beat Liverpool at Anfield (and we'd obviously need to beat Newcastle).
Palace showed some fight vs Everton, so hopefully same will happen against Brentford. Beating Liverpool at Enfield is never easy, so it's not impossible that Brentford fails to win both games. That Palace match is huge for us though.
Everton and Chelsea both play Sunderland and Spurs in their final two matches. As it stands, Spurs are still in the relegation fight and Sunderland are in a similar position to us, although their goal difference is even worse, so both Sunderland and Spurs still have something to play for. It's not impossible that both Chelsea and Everton will drop points in at least one of those two games, and that would be enough.
I thought we'd be out of it with a loss, but a lot of results have gone our way, and we definitely still have a shot. I think Brentford is the biggest problem in those calculations.
Quote from: SerbianLad on May 11, 2026, 10:59:40 PMIf Sunderland and Spurs get something at Everton and Chelsea respectively with Brentford dropping points vs Palace, and we beat Wolves, the only result we'd need to go our way on final day is Liverpool-Brentford where we'd need Brentford to fail to beat Liverpool at Anfield (and we'd obviously need to beat Newcastle).
Palace showed some fight vs Everton, so hopefully same will happen against Brentford. Beating Liverpool at Enfield is never easy, so it's not impossible that Brentford fails to win both games. That Palace match is huge for us though.
Everton and Chelsea both play Sunderland and Spurs in their final two matches. As it stands, Spurs are still in the relegation fight and Sunderland are in a similar position to us, although their goal difference is even worse, so both Sunderland and Spurs still have something to play for. It's not impossible that both Chelsea and Everton will drop points in at least one of those two games, and that would be enough.
I thought we'd be out of it with a loss, but a lot of results have gone our way, and we definitely still have a shot. I think Brentford is the biggest problem in those calculations.
I cant see us beating Wolves, not if we keep playing sideways football
You should probably amend the title to "NFR: Is 57 Points Enough For Europe".
Quote from: The Rock on May 12, 2026, 02:54:58 PMYou should probably amend the title to "NFR: Is 57 Points Enough For Europe".
LOL very true!
Man City FA Cup win keeps our hopes alive!
If we pick up max points (highly unlikely IMO) we have an outside chance of achieving some kind of Euro place, depending on other results.
But frankly I'd be happy if we won enough points to just move ahead of the bluepoo by the end of the season!
Palace put out a strong team, hopefully they can do the business.
While not mathematically over, it's over now.
We are now just 2 points ahead of leeds that were heading towards relegation a few games ago, Siva out now, get some fresh ideas in
Quote from: SerbianLad on May 17, 2026, 05:08:26 PMWhile not mathematically over, it's over now.
Thank God this shower wouldn't beat San Marino.😄
Quote from: KentFulham on April 26, 2026, 06:31:36 PMQuote from: The Little Dave on April 26, 2026, 04:39:18 PM57 gets us in easy, but getting 9 points from the games you outlined is incredibly difficult.
Is two home wins and a win against a relegated Wolves that difficult thou?
Yooo
I don't know how anyone has had any optimism in this run in. Whilst mathematically there have been openings. We just can't score and the performances are dire consistently. Any time we have an opportunity to climb the table we don't show up.