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After the win last week we were all applauding the way the team played and the tactics employed to turn Villa over. Rightly so. A superb performance.

Seven days later.

Lose today and somehow the world has come to an end. We're awful, Silva is useless, the players are League 1 standard, relegation nailed on next year, the Khans are awful etc etc etc.

You can't win every game. It never happens. We lose from time to time. Get over it.

And I really have a downer on those so called supporters who just love it when we lose. Gives them a chance to kick the club, the players, the manager.

Have a sense of perspective.

We are used to losing to Arsenal away. Today we were 3-0 down at half time, something we are not used to in this fixture.

I just wanted to see some passion from that lads. We got none of that.

The issue isn't losing one game. Everyone accepts defeats happen.

The concern is that performances like today's are becoming far too regular. I'd actually argue last week's reaction to the Villa win was more of an overreaction than the criticism after today's defeat.

In the last five games, we've had one genuinely excellent performance against Villa, where the effort, intensity and tactical approach were spot on. But against Arsenal and Liverpool, it felt like we conceded defeat from minute one and Brentford was another very uninspiring display.

Nobody is "loving it" when Fulham lose. We all want the team to win. But having perspective works both ways. One great performance doesn't erase the wider concern that we seem to be regressing and right now it feels more likely we'll put in a flat, drab display than repeat the level we showed against Villa.

Quote from: Ludlow Richard on May 02, 2026, 10:11:52 PMHave a sense of perspective.

I could not agree more with every part of your opening post, but this is the part where it all falls over.

Perspective? This lot? Sorry mate, but you've got no chance there.

Quote from: Ludlow Richard on May 02, 2026, 10:11:52 PMAfter the win last week we were all applauding the way the team played and the tactics employed to turn Villa over. Rightly so. A superb performance.

Seven days later.

Lose today and somehow the world has come to an end. We're awful, Silva is useless, the players are League 1 standard, relegation nailed on next year, the Khans are awful etc etc etc.

You can't win every game. It never happens. We lose from time to time. Get over it.

And I really have a downer on those so called supporters who just love it when we lose. Gives them a chance to kick the club, the players, the manager.

Have a sense of perspective.

👏Well said!

I can't believe the abuse from so called supporters that the team have lost 3-0 away to the top team in the PL and CL at this moment in the season.

Call yourselves supporters?

Did you really expect to win this game?

Arsenal looked like a team of athletes, wouldn't have known they were the ones who played in Madrid midweek.

As ElRay has said, it's not about the result. We all expected to lose today. It's about limp performances being all too common this season. There's zero fight in us, we need someone with the passion/fight of Palhinha or Mitro or SIMPLY A CAPTAIN WHO STARTS GAMES. WHY DO HAVE A CLUB CAPTAIN WHO BARELY PLAYS ANY MINUTES?

Quote from: demeant0r on May 02, 2026, 10:54:52 PMAs ElRay has said, it's not about the result. We all expected to lose today. It's about limp performances being all too common this season. There's zero fight in us, we need someone with the passion/fight of Palhinha or Mitro or SIMPLY A CAPTAIN WHO STARTS GAMES. WHY DO HAVE A CLUB CAPTAIN WHO BARELY PLAYS ANY MINUTES?

We are three points (possibly less) from European qualification places.

Absolute shitshow of a season, right?

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 02, 2026, 11:07:11 PM

Quote from: demeant0r on May 02, 2026, 10:54:52 PMAs ElRay has said, it's not about the result. We all expected to lose today. It's about limp performances being all too common this season. There's zero fight in us, we need someone with the passion/fight of Palhinha or Mitro or SIMPLY A CAPTAIN WHO STARTS GAMES. WHY DO HAVE A CLUB CAPTAIN WHO BARELY PLAYS ANY MINUTES?

We are three points (possibly less) from European qualification places.

Absolute shitshow of a season, right?

Potentially four tomorrow (or whenever Bournemouth plays). I didn't say we had a shitshow of a season (especailly because we're only six points from our most ever points). I said we're having too many limp dick performances where none of our players show any fight. The fact that we're still only 3/4 points from Europe is just baffling to me.

Ok. Four points.

It shouldn't be baffling that we are where we are, we happen to be quite a good side who got absolutely battered by one of the best teams in Europe right now.

Were we good? No. Improved in the second half? Yes. Was there talk of a virus hammering through the squad before kick off? Also, yes.

This over reaction bollocks(not aimed solely at you by any stretch) every single time that we get beaten is ridiculous. And it is becoming very, very tiresome.

4 goals in 2 months (3 against a relegated side) doesn't need perspective mate. We aren't playing good football and haven't for a bit now. Don't tell me how to feel.

Hopefully we can put today behind us, kick on and still secure a European spot. But despite being in this position I get 2012 / 2013 Martin Jol season vibes, because with a lot of the games we've won this season we've not necessarily played well.

Quote from: ElRay on May 02, 2026, 10:43:21 PMThe issue isn't losing one game. Everyone accepts defeats happen.

The concern is that performances like today's are becoming far too regular. I'd actually argue last week's reaction to the Villa win was more of an overreaction than the criticism after today's defeat.

In the last five games, we've had one genuinely excellent performance against Villa, where the effort, intensity and tactical approach were spot on. But against Arsenal and Liverpool, it felt like we conceded defeat from minute one and Brentford was another very uninspiring display.

Nobody is "loving it" when Fulham lose. We all want the team to win. But having perspective works both ways. One great performance doesn't erase the wider concern that we seem to be regressing and right now it feels more likely we'll put in a flat, drab display than repeat the level we showed against Villa.

Quote from: ElRay on May 02, 2026, 10:43:21 PMThe issue isn't losing one game. Everyone accepts defeats happen.

The concern is that performances like today's are becoming far too regular. I'd actually argue last week's reaction to the Villa win was more of an overreaction than the criticism after today's defeat.

In the last five games, we've had one genuinely excellent performance against Villa, where the effort, intensity and tactical approach were spot on. But against Arsenal and Liverpool, it felt like we conceded defeat from minute one and Brentford was another very uninspiring display.

Nobody is "loving it" when Fulham lose. We all want the team to win. But having perspective works both ways. One great performance doesn't erase the wider concern that we seem to be regressing and right now it feels more likely we'll put in a flat, drab display than repeat the level we showed against Villa.

Quote from: ElRay on May 02, 2026, 10:43:21 PMThe issue isn't losing one game. Everyone accepts defeats happen.

The concern is that performances like today's are becoming far too regular. I'd actually argue last week's reaction to the Villa win was more of an overreaction than the criticism after today's defeat.

In the last five games, we've had one genuinely excellent performance against Villa, where the effort, intensity and tactical approach were spot on. But against Arsenal and Liverpool, it felt like we conceded defeat from minute one and Brentford was another very uninspiring display.

Nobody is "loving it" when Fulham lose. We all want the team to win. But having perspective works both ways. One great performance doesn't erase the wider concern that we seem to be regressing and right now it feels more likely we'll put in a flat, drab display than repeat the level we showed against Villa.

I agree that we do seem to be regressing but I think the reasons for that are many and not within the compass of any manager to control. The average age of our best players is not getting any less, we have suffered from too many injuries to key players, we have failed to achieve our main targets in the transfer market. I have been critical of Silva's reluctance to use subs until the 70th minute and his apparent stubbornness in sticking to some players even when their form dips. Nevertheless, his style of play and general approach are far more enjoyable than that of his predecessor. I know it has been less swashbuckling lately, but that might be because of the players not available or out of form. I'll reserve judgement until we have a decent striker and a more creative midfield.

What planet are people on we are awful
Man City away 🏳�, West Ham Home 🏳�, Southampton home 🏳�60 minutes against Burnley utter 💩 Liverpool away 🏳� Villa had their shooting boots on we would have lost . Today Arsenal away 🏳�. The players know silva is off and are going through the motions it is totally unacceptable they have no pride in their performance and no pride in the badge . Jogging around like it is preseason it is disgraceful the players are way to comfortable the team is stale the tactics and formation is stale . Bringing on and taking off the same players every game no attacking threat maybe 1 shot on target a game things need to change drastically or we are walking into a minefield next season beating Villa papering over massive cracks in our first 11 and squad . The same press conference every week spouting the same 🐂💩 enough is enough . I want to be entertained I want the team to try and play with tempo and desire not serving up this drivel week in week out

Well said. There is no doubt that we have a number of player/performance issues that we need to rectify.
The first of those is our lack of goals/creativity. Need at least 2 new strikers and we desperately need some pace offensively. We don't stretch opponents.

Quote from: ElRay on May 02, 2026, 10:43:21 PMThe issue isn't losing one game. Everyone accepts defeats happen.

The concern is that performances like today's are becoming far too regular. I'd actually argue last week's reaction to the Villa win was more of an overreaction than the criticism after today's defeat.

In the last five games, we've had one genuinely excellent performance against Villa, where the effort, intensity and tactical approach were spot on. But against Arsenal and Liverpool, it felt like we conceded defeat from minute one and Brentford was another very uninspiring display.

Nobody is "loving it" when Fulham lose. We all want the team to win. But having perspective works both ways. One great performance doesn't erase the wider concern that we seem to be regressing and right now it feels more likely we'll put in a flat, drab display than repeat the level we showed against Villa.

I love your posts Ludlow but if there was any overreaction I would argue it was in the context of the Villa victory. I didn't see any real improvement then, we took a chance and they missed several while in second gear with the Europa league semi on their minds.

Performances have been consistently underwhelming for the majority of the season and I think there could be cause for concern next season if we're not careful

If Silva hasn't signed a new contract a day after the final home game then he should be sacked and then a new manager, whoever's lined up, has maximum tie to look at the club whilst the players are literally on the beach, and start to shape their plans accordingly..

Knowing Khan, we won't have one in place until 30th August!

I'm always usually on the same side of the fence (i.e. don't overreact), but yesterday was absolutely shocking. Just for that alone I understand people's emotional reactions.

There's a lot of good comments above for and against perspective and to a certain extent I agree with both.

My perspective, we were never going to get anything from Arsenal, there tempo was too much for us and we were flogging a dead horse etc etc etc.

The Villa game, we did well and got 3 points but as rightly said above if they could shoot we could have had a very different result. But wins a win a win.

I've  said before, I feel this season we haven't played aswell as last season but somehow we are in a position where Europe is possible. So in many ways our current position in the table is correct and the table rarely lies.

Is Silva off and are the players aware of this, and therefore not so committed? Yes  it's possible but it's all speculation.
I hope the club have a Manager lined up for the end of the season if Silva is off, I also hope we are given the opportunity to say goodbye at the Newcastle game because he has done great things to get us this far.

Perspective and expectations are in the eye of the beholder,
I expect Fulham to stay up each season now we have established ourselves, and anything above that is a bonus, that's my perspective.

COYW

Very well put Suffolk White. Arsenal are desperate to win the league and blew us away in that first half spell, with Saka almost back to his best. Difficult for anyone to have withstood that, let alone a virus-hit Fulham with arguably five starters(Iwobi, Berge,Sess, Tete and Kevin) not in the starting lineup.

I echo many of the glass half empty comments in that we have been average at best, and not that entertaining for most of the season and this year does have the 2012/13 Jol vibe which is concerning for next season. 

We have also been blown away in first half at Citeh, Liverpool and yesterday at Arsenal.  I cannot remember us not being competitive in the PL since the Parker days.  Games over at half time or before are not enjoyable.

Cannot say season is petering out because, although we are 10th, safe and secure for another year, it does not feel like 2025/26 really got started.  What was the highlight this season?  Difficult to recall anything more than bland on repeat. 

Always, hoping for better & fearing the worst.   ::scarf::

I agree we need to keep some perspective but the game, especially the first half, left me deflated. Yes Arsenal are a good side but that much better? Yes, we made mistakes for the goals, but we weren't really in the game. We had a reasonable spell for 10-15 minutes in the 1st half (without creating much, if anything) ended (inevitably it felt) with Arsenal scoring their 2nd and then reasserting control.

All our remaining fixtures are tricky and we will need to find a way to be more in the game and somehow to create more of a threat in the final third. I sometimes wonder if we have the squad to do this. The perspective is we are in a good-ish position in the league, we have had some good performances this year, sometimes coming away with nothing eg Man U 2-3 defeat, Man City 4-5. But I get those who are concerned by performances like yesterday when we did look poor.

Taking the season as a whole,it has been a great disapointment. The inabilty to kick on is, IMO, more a function of not having a good enough squad. I do not intend to have a go at individual players because they all try hard, usually, but central defence and central midfield requires an upgrade if we are to genuinely improve.

Regarding the manager, none of us know the situation but he has looked and sounded mighty demoralised. I suspect he is being held to his contract having not been offered a proper acceptable folow on. That is speculation but seems most likely to me.

Also for the first time since marco arrived, i think we have seemed to have more long term injuries to key plaers than before. I don't know if that's  bad luck or somthing wrong with training.

And in the end this mediocrity IMO says more about the owner's ambition than the manager's abilities. I don't think  we can realistically expecto do better. We dan vhange the nanager but the plan, or lack of plan, will not change if Marco goes.

Yesterday was symptomatic of a deeper issue. Changing the manager will not fix it.

Quote from: Andrew on May 03, 2026, 10:05:42 AMTaking the season as a whole,it has been a great disapointment. The inabilty to kick on is, IMO, more a function of not having a good enough squad. I do not intend to have a go at individual players because they all try hard, usually, but central defence and central midfield requires an upgrade if we are to genuinely improve.

Regarding the manager, none of us know the situation but he has looked and sounded mighty demoralised. I suspect he is being held to his contract having not been offered a proper acceptable folow on. That is speculation but seems most likely to me.

Also for the first time since marco arrived, i think we have seemed to have more long term injuries to key plaers than before. I don't know if that's  bad luck or somthing wrong with training.

And in the end this mediocrity IMO says more about the owner's ambition than the manager's abilities. I don't think  we can realistically expecto do better. We dan vhange the nanager but the plan, or lack of plan, will not change if Marco goes.

Yesterday was symptomatic of a deeper issue. Changing the manager will not fix it.

Well put Andrew. All I would add is that we need a more prolific strike force as well as the positions you highlight.

Perspective is fine but I don't think any of us really expected us to get anything from the game yesterday but the performance was really poor. There have been far too many weak performances this season; Everton (twice) Leeds away, Villa away, Liverpool away, West Ham (home) Palace (home) Brentford away, Southampton (home) before yesterday's gutless showing, so people are entitled to be concerned.

But can we honestly say that we have a strong squad, a solid defence, a combative midfield, a potent attack? I don't think I've lost all perspective to say that we need improvements in all these departments.

What is most concerning is that we don't know whether the current manager will be with us next season. We need to embark on an overhaul of the squad in the summer with a manager who will be around for the next few years. As a fan, that doesn't seem like too much to ask.

Perspective? Maybe the word should be Prospect!

Perspective for me relates to an outlook or view point while 'prospect' is about what happens in the future.


Of course the present points tally show we are in with a chance for a Euro campaign but that's more to do with the closeness of teams in the league than our ability to win games.

Even a blind man can see we have spent money on improving the team and yet the quality of performance has dropped.
We bought ESR and he has failed to be an upgrade, I'm sure Bobb & Kevin will improve but don't look like the big upgrade needed to me.

To do well in the PL (top 8 ish) you have to be exceptional for periods throughout the season, this team this year has been mediocre, ordinary, complacent, not exceptional.

Mediocrity leads to failure in the PL.

The Club is at a massive crossroad this pre season.A club of our standing in The Premier League your never miles away from a Relegation scrap and I feel a few decisions one way or another could really illustrate that fact. (1) Silva's future I worry about the Curbishley factor there is strong relationships with players and Silva. If he decides to leave you feel the fallout could be disastrous especially if the Appointment of a new manager doesn't prove successful. Massive few months.

We are what we are a mid table premiership side, good on some days crap on others, losing to the potential champions is not a bad thing, the performance was shite, it's been like the last couple of seasons, performing reasonably well up until march, then performance seems to drop of a cliff, could of players that were really good last year Robinson and Muniz, have been struggling this year, I think we would have struggled this year if Harry Wilson and Jiminez hadn't had such a good season between them, i still think that this season squad when they all fit of course has been one of best squads we have had in the premiership,

We are a good side but without Tete ,Berge ,Kevin , sessingnon, and Iwobi ( all potential starters ) we were always going to struggle.

Quote from: FFC007 on May 03, 2026, 07:45:31 AMIf Silva hasn't signed a new contract a day after the final home game then he should be sacked and then a new manager, whoever's lined up, has maximum tie to look at the club whilst the players are literally on the beach, and start to shape their plans accordingly..

Knowing Khan, we won't have one in place until 30th August!

You can't really sack someone who is out of contract

People blaming the result on a virus and injuries weak excuse the players have no pride in their performance what they served up yesterday was embarrassing jogging around no passion no desire not willing to get back in and help teammates played like a bunch of 6 year old starting their football careers.  Jedi , chuck , lukic, Wilson , Reed,  Anderson , bassey , Smith Rowe,  Leno need to look in the mirror this morning and have a honest conversation

Quote from: RAY Rock on May 03, 2026, 02:44:33 PMPeople blaming the result on a virus and injuries weak excuse the players have no pride in their performance what they served up yesterday was embarrassing jogging around no passion no desire not willing to get back in and help teammates played like a bunch of 6 year old starting their football careers.  Jedi , chuck , lukic, Wilson , Reed,  Anderson , bassey , Smith Rowe,  Leno need to look in the mirror this morning and have a honest conversation

How do you feel when you have a virus, I bet you don't want to run around very much, of course that's assuming they are suffering with a virus problem.

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 02, 2026, 10:48:26 PM

Quote from: Ludlow Richard on May 02, 2026, 10:11:52 PMHave a sense of perspective.

I could not agree more with every part of your opening post, but this is the part where it all falls over.

Perspective? This lot? Sorry mate, but you've got no chance there.

The problem with some of you is that you accept it all the time.
Yippee we're finishing mid table.
When we play the likes of City and so,the pre match remarks let's keep the score down,let's not get thrashed.
Losing mentality all the time and accepting it.
The OP stating how good we we're against Villa,really they missed about 6 chances.
I'm quite surprised we're not in a relegation battle the way we've played last few months.
The laying down to a championship team in the cup.
If some of these players are around next season,we'll be favourites for relegation.
They the Arsenal took players off at half time,if they'd stayed on they might have got 6 or 7 the way they we're running through us.
Disgraceful performance from us.

10th in the best league in the world. Owners who are investing to improve the club in every way. What are you realistically expecting?
If MS and wilson go, they go. Fulham will continue as it always has, some seasons better than others, thats football for a club like ours. If you dont like it or have much much higher expectations then perhaps you should be supporting a top top side, because in my eyes, FFC is not for you. The constant whingeing about players gets extremely tedious imho. I wonder if the whingers are as perfect in their professional lives as they expect our players to be? And i dont accept the crap that i pay to watch them. You always have the option not to. Surviving in this division is not easy, there are ten teams below us that can testify to that. Try supporting the team instead of constantly slagging them off, because im sure that none of you criticizing are anything less than perfect in life. In fact the only perfect person i ever met was a liar.

Quote from: Coastwalker on May 03, 2026, 03:20:21 PM

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 02, 2026, 10:48:26 PM

Quote from: Ludlow Richard on May 02, 2026, 10:11:52 PMHave a sense of perspective.

I could not agree more with every part of your opening post, but this is the part where it all falls over.

Perspective? This lot? Sorry mate, but you've got no chance there.

The problem with some of you is that you accept it all the time. No I don't but I can accept a midtable side will play well one week and poorly the next.
Yippee we're finishing mid table. like it or not 15th to 8th (midtable), is just about our ceiling.
When we play the likes of City and so,the pre match remarks let's keep the score down,let's not get thrashed.
Losing mentality all the time and accepting it.  It isn't losing mentality at all, predicting an outcome doesn't actually have an affect on how the game will go.  But as we would expect to beat Burnley, we would expect to lose to City.  The reason being (in case you aren't aware) is that we are better than Burnley, we are much worse than City.
The OP stating how good we we're against Villa,really they missed about 6 chances.  It is football missed chances happen and it is how lesser sides beat better ones. 
I'm quite surprised we're not in a relegation battle the way we've played last few months.  Be as surprised as you like, subjectivity is a large part of football but the fact is that we are absolutely nowhere near one.
The laying down to a championship team in the cup.  It was poor, nobody denies that - also see point above regarding better sides having off days.
If some of these players are around next season,we'll be favourites for relegation.  No we won't.
They the Arsenal took players off at half time,if they'd stayed on they might have got 6 or 7 the way they we're running through us. Yes, yes they were, the best side in the country, and one of the best four in Europe gave us a shoeing and we absolutely did not help ourselves in the first half. 
Disgraceful performance from us. Wasn't the best in the first half, granted.  Disgraceful though?  Nah.

Quote from: blingo on May 03, 2026, 03:20:34 PM10th in the best league in the world. Owners who are investing to improve the club in every way. What are you realistically expecting?
If MS and wilson go, they go. Fulham will continue as it always has, some seasons better than others, thats football for a club like ours. If you dont like it or have much much higher expectations then perhaps you should be supporting a top top side, because in my eyes, FFC is not for you. The constant whingeing about players gets extremely tedious imho. I wonder if the whingers are as perfect in their professional lives as they expect our players to be? And i dont accept the crap that i pay to watch them. You always have the option not to. Surviving in this division is not easy, there are ten teams below us that can testify to that. Try supporting the team instead of constantly slagging them off, because im sure that none of you criticizing are anything less than perfect in life. In fact the only perfect person i ever met was a liar.

"I wonder you say if the whingers are as perfect in their lives" lol
They're not getting paid £80,000  week to be.
I've supported Fulham longer than you I should think,through all the bad times,and if I want to Moan about a disgraceful performance I will do.
Who are you to tell people to support another team.

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 03, 2026, 03:31:28 PM

Quote from: Coastwalker on May 03, 2026, 03:20:21 PM

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 02, 2026, 10:48:26 PM

Quote from: Ludlow Richard on May 02, 2026, 10:11:52 PMHave a sense of perspective.

I could not agree more with every part of your opening post, but this is the part where it all falls over.

Perspective? This lot? Sorry mate, but you've got no chance there.

The problem with some of you is that you accept it all the time. No I don't but I can accept a midtable side will play well one week and poorly the next.
Yippee we're finishing mid table. like it or not 15th to 8th (midtable), is just about our ceiling.
When we play the likes of City and so,the pre match remarks let's keep the score down,let's not get thrashed.
Losing mentality all the time and accepting it.  It isn't losing mentality at all, predicting an outcome doesn't actually have an affect on how the game will go.  But as we would expect to beat Burnley, we would expect to lose to City.  The reason being (in case you aren't aware) is that we are better than Burnley, we are much worse than City.
The OP stating how good we we're against Villa,really they missed about 6 chances.  It is football missed chances happen and it is how lesser sides beat better ones. 
I'm quite surprised we're not in a relegation battle the way we've played last few months.  Be as surprised as you like, subjectivity is a large part of football but the fact is that we are absolutely nowhere near one.
The laying down to a championship team in the cup.  It was poor, nobody denies that - also see point above regarding better sides having off days.
If some of these players are around next season,we'll be favourites for relegation.  No we won't.
They the Arsenal took players off at half time,if they'd stayed on they might have got 6 or 7 the way they we're running through us. Yes, yes they were, the best side in the country, and one of the best four in Europe gave us a shoeing and we absolutely did not help ourselves in the first half. 
Disgraceful performance from us. Wasn't the best in the first half, granted.  Disgraceful though?  Nah.

And your remarks have just proved my point.
Go read comments on the BBC people posting they've never seen a worse performance.
And it was Disgraceful.

It proves nothing. Absolutely nothing.

But as usual, I am going to withdraw from here for a while - its just not worth engaging on here after a loss.  I never seem to learn.

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 03, 2026, 03:38:00 PMIt proves nothing. Absolutely nothing.

But as usual, I am going to withdraw from here for a while - its just not worth engaging on here after a loss.  I never seem to learn.

Bye then,christ how old are you 10.
Someone has a different opinion to you so you leaving.lol

Ive been a supporter for 63 years Coastwalker, im also related to the late and great Tony Macedo, who knows, perhaps i qualify to state my thoughts, perhaps not in your opinionated vision, but i certainly do in mine.
80k pw? They dont all earn that but they also have limited careers. The point you seem to miss is that they are human and therefore a fallible as the rest of us. I'll bet you wake up full of energy and the joys of spring every morning and never have an off day. It must be great being you.

Why did we try so hard against Villa, then revert back to beach mode once we have a European spot in our grasp is the question everyone should be asking! This also happened last season. Fans are allowed to be frustrated.

Quote from: blingo on May 03, 2026, 03:47:28 PMIve been a supporter for 63 years Coastwalker, im also related to the late and great Tony Macedo, who knows, perhaps i qualify to state my thoughts, perhaps not in your opinionated vision, but i certainly do in mine.
80k pw? They dont all earn that but they also have limited careers. The point you seem to miss is that they are human and therefore a fallible as the rest of us. I'll bet you wake up full of energy and the joys of spring every morning and never have an off day. It must be great being you.

You from Gibraltar then?

Quote from: Super Mick on May 03, 2026, 03:48:07 PMWhy did we try so hard against Villa, then revert back to beach mode once we have a European spot in our grasp is the question everyone should be asking! This also happened last season. Fans are allowed to be frustrated.

It is frustrating Sir, but thats football. Win our next three games and who knows. Its what makes football one of the greatest sports in the world

I fear for us against Bournemouth next week .

Quote from: Coastwalker on May 03, 2026, 03:50:49 PM

Quote from: blingo on May 03, 2026, 03:47:28 PMIve been a supporter for 63 years Coastwalker, im also related to the late and great Tony Macedo, who knows, perhaps i qualify to state my thoughts, perhaps not in your opinionated vision, but i certainly do in mine.
80k pw? They dont all earn that but they also have limited careers. The point you seem to miss is that they are human and therefore a fallible as the rest of us. I'll bet you wake up full of energy and the joys of spring every morning and never have an off day. It must be great being you.

You from Gibraltar then?

My family is and i live in gib now. Born in Queen Charlottes tho.

I appreciate the OP's commentary.  I also can understand some of the negativity, though the overboard stuff is probably only a couple of posters.  But when we see games like Arsenal and Liverpool there is gonna be fan reaction.  I really didn't think Arsenal were outstanding in their performance, and quite frankly, I thought Liverpool was actually poor.  And to the OP's comments, there is nothing wrong with "constructive criticism", which is mostly what we see in these moments.
My reaction to these types of games is "frustration and disappointment".  I know the lads can play better.  But I'm not gonna get upside anyones' jock over it.  We can point out players who were poor, who made mistakes, who screwed up.  Nothing wrong with that, that's what fans in such a forum do. 
It all really boils down to MS and the players.  If FFC should fall short of Euro play, they need only recall home field losses to WHU and Everton and for poor shows v Liverpool/Arsenal.  And we need to be cautious over what we wish for, should FFC somehow qualify for Europe.  I have concerns about staying in this League, which should always be priority number one.

Quote from: blingo on May 03, 2026, 03:20:34 PM10th in the best league in the world. Owners who are investing to improve the club in every way. What are you realistically expecting?
If MS and wilson go, they go. Fulham will continue as it always has, some seasons better than others, thats football for a club like ours. If you dont like it or have much much higher expectations then perhaps you should be supporting a top top side, because in my eyes, FFC is not for you. The constant whingeing about players gets extremely tedious imho. I wonder if the whingers are as perfect in their professional lives as they expect our players to be? And i dont accept the crap that i pay to watch them. You always have the option not to. Surviving in this division is not easy, there are ten teams below us that can testify to that. Try supporting the team instead of constantly slagging them off, because im sure that none of you criticizing are anything less than perfect in life. In fact the only perfect person i ever met was a liar.

5k posts gatekeeping what Fulham fandom should be? That's a lame take, dude. Of all the behavior in this community, telling other fans they should go somewhere else ranks pretty low.

"Oh, it's tedious."
"Oh, it's tiresome."

(responding directly to others in this thread as well)

Then don't engage with it. Avoid threads where the title clearly shows people overreacting or venting after a loss. It's completely within your control whether you interact with that content—or, in many cases, whether you even see it cause subjects are so obvious.

Every time a thread gets out of control and an admin steps in, one of the first pieces of feedback is usually the same: avoid the content you don't want to see.

But instead, we get more threads and more posts complaining about the complaining. And somehow that's supposed to stop people from negatively reacting or reposting the exact opinions that annoyed you in the first place?

The problem is people thinking they can dictate what others should or shouldn't say.

Just because you're tired of reading certain comments, or sick of seeing the same opinions repeated, doesn't make that the other person's fault. It's yours. You're the one choosing to read it. You are the one choosing to engage with it, and quite literally keeping it going. None of you are arbiters of fandom let alone this forum, if you don't like what you are reading sign off, go outside, literally do anything else then double down which will just make you feel more upset.

It's not that hard.

Quote from: Coastwalker on May 03, 2026, 03:50:49 PM

Quote from: blingo on May 03, 2026, 03:47:28 PMIve been a supporter for 63 years Coastwalker, im also related to the late and great Tony Macedo, who knows, perhaps i qualify to state my thoughts, perhaps not in your opinionated vision, but i certainly do in mine.
80k pw? They dont all earn that but they also have limited careers. The point you seem to miss is that they are human and therefore a fallible as the rest of us. I'll bet you wake up full of energy and the joys of spring every morning and never have an off day. It must be great being you.

You from Gibraltar then?

I used to play football with one of Macedo's cousins. I think his surname was Greenaway. Not you Blingo?

Quote from: LittleErn on May 03, 2026, 10:26:21 AM

Quote from: Andrew on May 03, 2026, 10:05:42 AMTaking the season as a whole,it has been a great disapointment. The inabilty to kick on is, IMO, more a function of not having a good enough squad. I do not intend to have a go at individual players because they all try hard, usually, but central defence and central midfield requires an upgrade if we are to genuinely improve.

Regarding the manager, none of us know the situation but he has looked and sounded mighty demoralised. I suspect he is being held to his contract having not been offered a proper acceptable folow on. That is speculation but seems most likely to me.

Also for the first time since marco arrived, i think we have seemed to have more long term injuries to key plaers than before. I don't know if that's  bad luck or somthing wrong with training.

And in the end this mediocrity IMO says more about the owner's ambition than the manager's abilities. I don't think  we can realistically expecto do better. We dan vhange the nanager but the plan, or lack of plan, will not change if Marco goes.

Yesterday was symptomatic of a deeper issue. Changing the manager will not fix it.

Well put Andrew. All I would add is that we need a more prolific strike force as well as the positions you highlight.

Thank you. Everyone always needs a better strike force.... We need to scout better in lower leagues.

Quote from: The Little Dave on May 03, 2026, 05:08:41 PM

Quote from: blingo on May 03, 2026, 03:20:34 PM10th in the best league in the world. Owners who are investing to improve the club in every way. What are you realistically expecting?
If MS and wilson go, they go. Fulham will continue as it always has, some seasons better than others, thats football for a club like ours. If you dont like it or have much much higher expectations then perhaps you should be supporting a top top side, because in my eyes, FFC is not for you. The constant whingeing about players gets extremely tedious imho. I wonder if the whingers are as perfect in their professional lives as they expect our players to be? And i dont accept the crap that i pay to watch them. You always have the option not to. Surviving in this division is not easy, there are ten teams below us that can testify to that. Try supporting the team instead of constantly slagging them off, because im sure that none of you criticizing are anything less than perfect in life. In fact the only perfect person i ever met was a liar.

5k posts gatekeeping what Fulham fandom should be? That's a lame take, dude. Of all the behavior in this community, telling other fans they should go somewhere else ranks pretty low.

"Oh, it's tedious."
"Oh, it's tiresome."

(responding directly to others in this thread as well)

Then don't engage with it. Avoid threads where the title clearly shows people overreacting or venting after a loss. It's completely within your control whether you interact with that content—or, in many cases, whether you even see it cause subjects are so obvious.

Every time a thread gets out of control and an admin steps in, one of the first pieces of feedback is usually the same: avoid the content you don't want to see.

But instead, we get more threads and more posts complaining about the complaining. And somehow that's supposed to stop people from negatively reacting or reposting the exact opinions that annoyed you in the first place?

The problem is people thinking they can dictate what others should or shouldn't say.

Just because you're tired of reading certain comments, or sick of seeing the same opinions repeated, doesn't make that the other person's fault. It's yours. You're the one choosing to read it. You are the one choosing to engage with it, and quite literally keeping it going. None of you are arbiters of fandom let alone this forum, if you don't like what you are reading sign off, go outside, literally do anything else then double down which will just make you feel more upset.

It's not that hard.

You've just managed to call the kettle black

Quote from: Super Mick on May 03, 2026, 03:48:07 PMWhy did we try so hard against Villa, then revert back to beach mode once we have a European spot in our grasp is the question everyone should be asking! This also happened last season. Fans are allowed to be frustrated.

Probably something to do with this virus issue. We don't know how bad it was but Silva said it affected the staff and players

I wonder how we would have fared these past couple of seasons had Andoni Iraola been our manager. I think he adopts a different tactical outlook to Marco. To me, Iraola places more emphasis than Marco on exploiting attacking opportunities quickly. It isn't always more successful but, in my opinion, it is marginally so compared to the greater importance Silva likes to place upon possession-based football with its slower tempo.

If the way Iraola's sets up his team to play is worth just one extra point over us every half-dozen-or-so matches, this equates to an additional six points over the course of a season. Take five-or-six points away from Bournemouth's total right now and give them to us and we'd be sitting sixth in the table with the genuine hope of playing Europa League football - Champions League, even - next season.

Marco has proved himself to be a 'safe pair of hands' when it comes to maintaining our P.L. status and this achievement is not to be under-estimated. I believe any of a dozen clubs could, most seasons, either be challenging for European football in seventh or eighth or languishing in seventeenth or eighteenth, such is the competitiveness of this league. That Silva has successfully kept us away from the lower reaches of the table is commendable. And yet, despite that he acknowledges our showing on Saturday was weak (just as he has done, previously, against the likes of Liverpool and Manchester City), we produce performances of this type too often. I am left wondering why our style of play is not evolving such that, even in defeat, we give a better account of ourselves - better than we typically do now. I look at Iraola, Hurzeler and Glasner and wonder whether theirs is a level of coaching that is a bit above and beyond that of our own manager, good as he is.

Quote from: The blahblahman on May 03, 2026, 09:07:25 PM

Quote from: Super Mick on May 03, 2026, 03:48:07 PMWhy did we try so hard against Villa, then revert back to beach mode once we have a European spot in our grasp is the question everyone should be asking! This also happened last season. Fans are allowed to be frustrated.

Probably something to do with this virus issue. We don't know how bad it was but Silva said it affected the staff and players

It was clear on Marco's pre match video there was an issue at the club with what I thought was fitness. At this level you cannot compete with players recovering from a virus against ones that are 100%.
That is why you need a better, deeper squad.

I note that this is not the first time Berge has been out with health issues, so I suspect he has not been right for a while.

If there is still illness in the camp this week, competing with Bournemouth will be problematic.

Quote from: blingo on May 03, 2026, 08:35:57 PM

Quote from: The Little Dave on May 03, 2026, 05:08:41 PM

Quote from: blingo on May 03, 2026, 03:20:34 PM10th in the best league in the world. Owners who are investing to improve the club in every way. What are you realistically expecting?
If MS and wilson go, they go. Fulham will continue as it always has, some seasons better than others, thats football for a club like ours. If you dont like it or have much much higher expectations then perhaps you should be supporting a top top side, because in my eyes, FFC is not for you. The constant whingeing about players gets extremely tedious imho. I wonder if the whingers are as perfect in their professional lives as they expect our players to be? And i dont accept the crap that i pay to watch them. You always have the option not to. Surviving in this division is not easy, there are ten teams below us that can testify to that. Try supporting the team instead of constantly slagging them off, because im sure that none of you criticizing are anything less than perfect in life. In fact the only perfect person i ever met was a liar.

5k posts gatekeeping what Fulham fandom should be? That's a lame take, dude. Of all the behavior in this community, telling other fans they should go somewhere else ranks pretty low.

"Oh, it's tedious."
"Oh, it's tiresome."

(responding directly to others in this thread as well)

Then don't engage with it. Avoid threads where the title clearly shows people overreacting or venting after a loss. It's completely within your control whether you interact with that content—or, in many cases, whether you even see it cause subjects are so obvious.

Every time a thread gets out of control and an admin steps in, one of the first pieces of feedback is usually the same: avoid the content you don't want to see.

But instead, we get more threads and more posts complaining about the complaining. And somehow that's supposed to stop people from negatively reacting or reposting the exact opinions that annoyed you in the first place?

The problem is people thinking they can dictate what others should or shouldn't say.

Just because you're tired of reading certain comments, or sick of seeing the same opinions repeated, doesn't make that the other person's fault. It's yours. You're the one choosing to read it. You are the one choosing to engage with it, and quite literally keeping it going. None of you are arbiters of fandom let alone this forum, if you don't like what you are reading sign off, go outside, literally do anything else then double down which will just make you feel more upset.

It's not that hard.

You've just managed to call the kettle black

Is it boiling yet, I could do with a mug of tea, being a mug myself.

Quote from: Super Mick on May 03, 2026, 03:48:07 PMWhy did we try so hard against Villa, then revert back to beach mode once we have a European spot in our grasp is the question everyone should be asking! This also happened last season. Fans are allowed to be frustrated.

Perhaps it had something to do with the illness that went through the squad in the days before the match eh?