Dutch press so I cannot show you any proof that you'll understand. Basically the articles say that Jol and El Hamdaoui had a very good working relation with one another and that El Hamdaoui would not be unhappy if he could work with his former manager again. In an article he said that he is still in regular contact with his former manager and that he would be happy if that relation could be continued. He has also been linked to Spurs. Apparently his price has risen again (a couple of weeks ago they asked 2,5 million euro for him). That has been doubled.
The title of the article is "Jol takes El Hamdaoui with him to Fulham"
'Jol neemt El Hamdaoui mee naar Fulham'
Mounir El Hamdaoui zal de ontwikkelingen rondom Martin Jol met veel belangstelling hebben gevolgd. De kans lijkt groot dat de nieuwe trainer van Fulham de spits meeneemt naar Engeland, meldt RTV Noord-Holland.
Het is geen geheim dat Jol en El Hamdaoui een goede relatie onderhouden. De spits staat nog onder contract bij Ajax, maar beide partijen kwamen al tot de conclusie dat het niet botert. Een transfer lijkt daarom de beste oplossing.
De geboren Rotterdammer heeft een hoge pet op van Jol. "Erg jammer dat hij weg is, omdat hij een goede trainer is en ook een tof mens is met wie ik een goede band had. We hebben nog steeds contact", zo vertelde El Hamdaoui ruim een maand na het vertrek van de voormalige Ajax-coach.
Jol werd dinsdag aangesteld als hoofdtrainer van Fulham. De oefenmeester kreeg reeds te horen dat er ruimte is voor versterkingen. "Waar mogelijk zullen wij ons proberen te versterken met één of twee goede spelers", aldus Jol.
Een gedeelte van het budget van eigenaar Mohamed Al-Fayed zal waarschijnlijk worden aangewend om El Hamdaoui aan te trekken. De spits, die ook in de belangstelling staat van Trabzonspor, Tottenham Hotspur en Sevilla, kost naar verluidt een kleine vijf miljoen euro.
http://www.voetbalprimeur.nl/site/nieuws/168314/Jol_neemt_El_Hamdaoui_mee_naar_Fulham.html (http://www.voetbalprimeur.nl/site/nieuws/168314/Jol_neemt_El_Hamdaoui_mee_naar_Fulham.html)
Personally I rate El Hamdaoui a lot. He is a typical striker with eyes for the goal only. This video shows you why:
Top 10: Mounir El Hamdaoui (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyKmJNnMl9E#ws)
couple of lovely finishes in there, the rest are ordinary (though think he'd only been on the pitch all of 30 seconds for that goal at No.10).
What type of player is he and would he work well with BZ? quick? workhorse? drops off the front line? fox in the box?
Quote from: elgreenio on June 08, 2011, 10:05:36 AM
couple of lovely finishes in there, the rest are ordinary (though think he'd only been on the pitch all of 30 seconds for that goal at No.10).
What type of player is he and would he work well with BZ? quick? workhorse? drops off the front line? fox in the box?
He is a finisher. I think he could partner very well with Zamora (as he attracts defenders). He is a "fox in the box" kind of player. Also, he scores A LOT of goals: 50 goals in 81 games for AZ, 13 goals in 22 games for Ajax.
From Sport 1 http://www.sport1.nl/nieuws/19297-matavz-vervangt-mounir-az-aast-op-drenthe.html (http://www.sport1.nl/nieuws/19297-matavz-vervangt-mounir-az-aast-op-drenthe.html)
The long-awaited transfer of Mounir El Hamdaoui to Fulham is almost done. Ajax striker following the departure of Martin Jol banished to the bench, but it is in England another chance to coach his beloved work.
Ajax receives about 4.5 million euros for the Moroccan who is only one season of Amsterdam. El Hamdaoui was last years top scorer with 13 goals in the Arena Club, but could not get along with coach Frank de Boer.
I really hope that I'm not the only one who has in the last 24 hours become EXTREMELY excited about the coming season. I've got a very good feeling about this...
Quote from: The Equalizer on June 08, 2011, 10:28:27 AM
I really hope that I'm not the only one who has in the last 24 hours become EXTREMELY excited about the coming season. I've got a very good feeling about this...
I'm with you, I think it's fantastic how quickly the club has moved to appoint someone and in my opinion has appointed the right person too!
I think 'Mr Fulham' predicted this also. He hoped this fella would help keep Moussa. Here's hoping
Ajax have accepted a bid rumoured to be €3.8 - 4m from an un-named Turkish club. Had better get in there quick if Jol thinks he's the way to go
I think he looks pretty darn good and I would take him plus he is young and we need more good young players.
Sipwell, when they were both at Alkmaar, what position did Moussa play in comparison to El Hamdaoui?
Scho, what he ish shaying ish if it washnt for Jol Schteve McLarensh would have been hish schecond choisch
Quote from: elgreenio on June 08, 2011, 11:00:45 AM
Ajax have accepted a bid rumoured to be €3.8 - 4m from an un-named Turkish club. Had better get in there quick if Jol thinks he's the way to go
From another website, he said back in May that he did not want to go to turkey:
Turkish outfits, Galatasaray SK and Trabzonspor, have shown keen interest in signing the Moroccan International, but Hamdaoui has already made it clear that he does not want to pursue his career in Turkey.
didn't know that. Whether he'd feel the same if this is the only offer for him and it was the choice between first team football there or playing a bit-part role at Ajax under a manager who clearly doesn't fancy him is a different matter.
Quote from: elgreenio on June 08, 2011, 11:19:28 AM
didn't know that. Whether he'd feel the same if this is the only offer for him and it was the choice between first team football there or playing a bit-part role at Ajax under a manager who clearly doesn't fancy him is a different matter.
Obviously, but with Jol now back in the premier league, I bet he and his agent are biding their time. If Jol goes for him, I am 99% sure he would jump at the chance to make a return to the UK.
Quote from: The Equalizer on June 08, 2011, 10:28:27 AM
I really hope that I'm not the only one who has in the last 24 hours become EXTREMELY excited about the coming season. I've got a very good feeling about this...
+1
Quote from: luckykat on June 08, 2011, 11:40:51 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on June 08, 2011, 10:28:27 AM
I really hope that I'm not the only one who has in the last 24 hours become EXTREMELY excited about the coming season. I've got a very good feeling about this...
+1
+2
Quote from: sipwell on June 08, 2011, 10:15:13 AM
Also, he scores A LOT of goals: 50 goals in 81 games for AZ, 13 goals in 22 games for Ajax.
He could be the next Kezman!
Or Collins John... 089.gif
Afonso Alves \o/
The difference between all of those mentioned is that we would 'gamble' at most €5m
Quote from: aFFCn_Fan on June 08, 2011, 11:02:53 AM
Sipwell, when they were both at Alkmaar, what position did Moussa play in comparison to El Hamdaoui?
Moussa was the deep winger, centering balls for El Hamdaoui (not necessarily assists).
Quote from: sipwell on June 08, 2011, 12:40:33 PM
Quote from: aFFCn_Fan on June 08, 2011, 11:02:53 AM
Sipwell, when they were both at Alkmaar, what position did Moussa play in comparison to El Hamdaoui?
Moussa was the deep winger, centering balls for El Hamdaoui (not necessarily assists).
Thanks Sipwell. To be fair, I think that's been Moussa's best position for us. let's hope we can make this one happen. He's in the right budget range for us. Would have friends at the club already and if he can keep up his form in the EPL we could have something very special upfront.
Doesn't he have a rubbsih attitude and inflated ego?
Quote from: mike_f on June 08, 2011, 01:08:43 PM
Doesn't he have a rubbsih attitude and inflated ego?
Sounds like most of the people in my office.
This Dutch web-site are saying the deal is nearly completed, that would be quick but for 4.5 million Euro's, it could be very good business.
http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/nieuws/130113_wandelgang-el-hamdaoui-verlost-van-ajax-lazio-wint-strijd-om-klose-henderson-bijna-van-liverpool#reactie-130113 (http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/nieuws/130113_wandelgang-el-hamdaoui-verlost-van-ajax-lazio-wint-strijd-om-klose-henderson-bijna-van-liverpool#reactie-130113)
AMSTERDAM - Ajax and Mounir El Hamdaoui are almost rid of each other. A transfer to Fulham of the attacker is almost done, according to Sport 1. The transition is reportedly an amount of 4.5 million euros. El Hamdaoui was last year for around five million euros brought to Amsterdam by Martin Jol. He became coach of Fulham yesterday.
Quote from: NorthernWhite on June 08, 2011, 02:06:21 PM
This Dutch web-site are saying the deal is nearly completed, that would be quick but for 4.5 million Euro's, it could be very good business.
http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/nieuws/130113_wandelgang-el-hamdaoui-verlost-van-ajax-lazio-wint-strijd-om-klose-henderson-bijna-van-liverpool#reactie-130113 (http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/nieuws/130113_wandelgang-el-hamdaoui-verlost-van-ajax-lazio-wint-strijd-om-klose-henderson-bijna-van-liverpool#reactie-130113)
AMSTERDAM - Ajax and Mounir El Hamdaoui are almost rid of each other. A transfer to Fulham of the attacker is almost done, according to Sport 1. The transition is reportedly an amount of 4.5 million euros. El Hamdaoui was last year for around five million euros brought to Amsterdam by Martin Jol. He became coach of Fulham yesterday.
Sounds like an absolute snip for someone with his goal-scoring record!! Even if his attitude isn't great, he knows Jol and I'm sure he will be able to get the best out of him. Could mean AJ on his way out though?
From a reliable itk on tiff
Just as I told you that Jol was signing, I have some more ITK.
We have had a £5.5m bid rejected today for Mounir El Hamdaoui and we are likely to end up paying around £7m for him.
Quote from: aFFCn_Fan on June 08, 2011, 11:02:53 AM
Sipwell, when they were both at Alkmaar, what position did Moussa play in comparison to El Hamdaoui?
----Dembele-----El Hamdaoui-----Lens----
Quote from: sipwell on June 08, 2011, 10:15:13 AM
Quote from: elgreenio on June 08, 2011, 10:05:36 AM
couple of lovely finishes in there, the rest are ordinary (though think he'd only been on the pitch all of 30 seconds for that goal at No.10).
What type of player is he and would he work well with BZ? quick? workhorse? drops off the front line? fox in the box?
He is a finisher. I think he could partner very well with Zamora (as he attracts defenders). He is a "fox in the box" kind of player. Also, he scores A LOT of goals: 50 goals in 81 games for AZ, 13 goals in 22 games for Ajax.
To be fair, everyone scores alot in that league. Remember that guy Boro got, Alfonso Alves. He had like a goal per game ratio and just look how he did in the PL.
Quote from: mike_f on June 08, 2011, 02:15:01 PM
From a reliable itk on tiff
Just as I told you that Jol was signing, I have some more ITK.
We have had a £5.5m bid rejected today for Mounir El Hamdaoui and we are likely to end up paying around £7m for him.
I've heared that he isn't wanted anymore and De Boer doesn't want him to stay. 7m are ridiculous. Some say 3.5-4.5 is more likely.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on June 08, 2011, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: aFFCn_Fan on June 08, 2011, 11:02:53 AM
Sipwell, when they were both at Alkmaar, what position did Moussa play in comparison to El Hamdaoui?
----Dembele-----El Hamdaoui-----Lens----
Any word on this transfer from your friend?
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 08, 2011, 03:22:46 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on June 08, 2011, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: aFFCn_Fan on June 08, 2011, 11:02:53 AM
Sipwell, when they were both at Alkmaar, what position did Moussa play in comparison to El Hamdaoui?
----Dembele-----El Hamdaoui-----Lens----
Any word on this transfer from your friend?
Only that his buddy Jolly wants to bring in Hammy to rock the Hammy and to keep The Moose happy.
Frankly, this reminds me of the ""Fulham to take Konchesky back" in the papers last season. It seemed as if the press considered it our duty to make deals with Liverpool designed to improve THEIR squad and reduce the friction in THEIR clubhouse.
I'm sure this guy has some skills -- although I bet I could find you a highlight reel of EJ's goals with Dallas and KC that would have people salivating -- but the fact also is that he sulks when things don't go his way and is a public whiner. This doesn't sound particularly Fulham to me, but -- evidently -- this is balanced out by the fact that he's tight buddies with Dembele. I guess when Moussa goes to a "big club" for "big quid" next summer, that "big club" will help improve our squad and reduce our clubhouse friction by signing him as well.
Yeah, right.
Quote from: HatterDon on June 08, 2011, 05:01:09 PM
but the fact also is that he sulks when things don't go his way and is a public whiner. This doesn't sound particularly Fulham to me
Is he Gera, is he Gera, is he Gera in disguise?
He's a whiner...yes. But I prefer that he's a goalscorer and Jol's buddy.
Things didn't go his way at Ajax, there are a few stories. The club wasn't too nice to him too, so there's two sides really.
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 08, 2011, 10:26:48 AM
From Sport 1 http://www.sport1.nl/nieuws/19297-matavz-vervangt-mounir-az-aast-op-drenthe.html (http://www.sport1.nl/nieuws/19297-matavz-vervangt-mounir-az-aast-op-drenthe.html)
The long-awaited transfer of Mounir El Hamdaoui to Fulham is almost done. Ajax striker following the departure of Martin Jol banished to the bench, but it is in England another chance to coach his beloved work.
Ajax receives about 4.5 million euros for the Moroccan who is only one season of Amsterdam. El Hamdaoui was last years top scorer with 13 goals in the Arena Club, but could not get along with coach Frank de Boer.
"Long awaited"? You mean a whole day?
Quote from: HatterDon on June 08, 2011, 05:01:09 PM
Frankly, this reminds me of the ""Fulham to take Konchesky back" in the papers last season. It seemed as if the press considered it our duty to make deals with Liverpool designed to improve THEIR squad and reduce the friction in THEIR clubhouse.
I'm sure this guy has some skills -- although I bet I could find you a highlight reel of EJ's goals with Dallas and KC that would have people salivating -- but the fact also is that he sulks when things don't go his way and is a public whiner. This doesn't sound particularly Fulham to me, but -- evidently -- this is balanced out by the fact that he's tight buddies with Dembele. I guess when Moussa goes to a "big club" for "big quid" next summer, that "big club" will help improve our squad and reduce our clubhouse friction by signing him as well.
Yeah, right.
not to mention the long list of injuries, sounds right up our street on that front :011:
3 goals in 9 games w/ Derby in the championship in 05/06 while on loan
never got a run out for tottenham, but was only 20/21 at the time
Dutch player of the yr in 08/09
I'd be happy with him up front w/ Demeble/ BZ
Quote from: Yarden on June 08, 2011, 03:21:52 PM
Quote from: sipwell on June 08, 2011, 10:15:13 AM
Quote from: elgreenio on June 08, 2011, 10:05:36 AM
couple of lovely finishes in there, the rest are ordinary (though think he'd only been on the pitch all of 30 seconds for that goal at No.10).
What type of player is he and would he work well with BZ? quick? workhorse? drops off the front line? fox in the box?
He is a finisher. I think he could partner very well with Zamora (as he attracts defenders). He is a "fox in the box" kind of player. Also, he scores A LOT of goals: 50 goals in 81 games for AZ, 13 goals in 22 games for Ajax.
To be fair, everyone scores alot in that league. Remember that guy Boro got, Alfonso Alves. He had like a goal per game ratio and just look how he did in the PL.
He played European football with AZ and with Ajax and kicked balls in versus Milan and many other high fliers. Also, the argument that people score a lot in the Dutch Eredivisie is true, but you need to score goals in order to win games anyway and the goalkeepers aren't bad, nor are the defenders. It is just an open type of play, with attacking intentions on both sides. That doesn't mean you give your opponent a free passage to your goal!
