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Title: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: Jimpav on September 23, 2012, 08:53:46 PM
Thoughts.

Part of me thinks he could be acting martyr in a desperate bid to prove his innocence.

Not someone I would ever want a pint with but a great player and will leave the England squad weaker.

Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: ron on September 23, 2012, 08:58:20 PM
With his handling skills, he could still make it in rugby football.
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: DevonFFC on September 23, 2012, 09:08:04 PM
He is a nonse
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: os5889 on September 23, 2012, 09:11:10 PM
can't believe Im saying this but I genuinely do have sympathy for John Terry, if he's been cleared by the courts and so has clearly not broken any laws then why should the FA then deem that not good enough for them?

They already ruined his captaincy by stripping him of it due to allegations and now clearly have made him feel he cant go on playing for England.

While we all know he's certainly no saint he hasn't done anything wrong legally!

Are the FA saying the law isn't good enough?
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: The Doctor on September 23, 2012, 09:15:28 PM
We needed to find a new defence before the next World Cup, so at least his decision allows for a clean break and gives Hodgson plenty of time to get the replacements sorted
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: jarv on September 23, 2012, 09:17:31 PM
good riddance!
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: SmithyFFC on September 23, 2012, 09:17:51 PM
Should of been done before the Euro's to give Rio a chance.

Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: SP on September 23, 2012, 09:23:12 PM
Good, I can't support any team that contains John Terry or Ashley Cole.
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: Holders on September 23, 2012, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: os5889 on September 23, 2012, 09:11:10 PM
can't believe Im saying this but I genuinely do have sympathy for John Terry, if he's been cleared by the courts and so has clearly not broken any laws then why should the FA then deem that not good enough for them?

They already ruined his captaincy by stripping him of it due to allegations and now clearly have made him feel he cant go on playing for England.

While we all know he's certainly no saint he hasn't done anything wrong legally!

Are the FA saying the law isn't good enough?

It pains me to say but - agreed.

I do think he was shown up at the WC so no great loss. We must look to the future - Lescott and so on...
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: God The Mechanic on September 23, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: os5889 on September 23, 2012, 09:11:10 PM
can't believe Im saying this but I genuinely do have sympathy for John Terry, if he's been cleared by the courts and so has clearly not broken any laws then why should the FA then deem that not good enough for them?

They already ruined his captaincy by stripping him of it due to allegations and now clearly have made him feel he cant go on playing for England.

While we all know he's certainly no saint he hasn't done anything wrong legally!

Are the FA saying the law isn't good enough?

The FA has different rules/laws than the country does.  So if they feel/can prove that he's broken one of theirs hen they can punish him accordingly.
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: LBNo11 on September 23, 2012, 10:04:39 PM
...who will the youth of today have as a shining example of morality to look up to now..?
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: HatterDon on September 23, 2012, 10:48:00 PM
it shouldn't have been his choice. He should have been excluded after the Wayne Bridge thing. Barring that, he should have been excluded after his absolutely horrible performance in the World Cup.

The only disappointment I have with Roy as England's chief is that he kept calling that horror of a human into his squad.
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: JHaynes Paperboy on September 24, 2012, 08:09:35 AM
So "The Rascists" win again?He has been proved innocent by our courts, why should the FA think that they are above the Law? 000en.gif
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: Rupert on September 24, 2012, 08:33:50 AM
Quote from: JHaynes Paperboy on September 24, 2012, 08:09:35 AM
So "The Rascists" win again?He has been proved innocent by our courts, why should the FA think that they are above the Law? 000en.gif

You know, I am, politically, someone who leans slightly to the right, and I found that post to be completely baffling, so goodness knows what the comrades, and their ilk, will make of it.
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Post by: Black, White and Fred on September 24, 2012, 10:10:53 AM
 082.gif 078.gif :wine: yee-haw! 098.gif :yay: :clap_hands: :wine: 078.gif 082.gif
I am not too displeased with this news.
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: cebu on September 24, 2012, 10:13:11 AM
Quote from: JHaynes Paperboy on September 24, 2012, 08:09:35 AM
So "The Rascists" win again?He has been proved innocent by our courts, why should the FA think that they are above the Law? 000en.gif

I believe the verdict of the court was "not guilty" rather than "innocent".
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Post by: Edwatch_Winston_Malone on September 24, 2012, 10:13:38 AM
Time to go anyway he just jumped before being pushed....
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on September 24, 2012, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: cebu on September 24, 2012, 10:13:11 AM
Quote from: JHaynes Paperboy on September 24, 2012, 08:09:35 AM
So "The Rascists" win again?He has been proved innocent by our courts, why should the FA think that they are above the Law? 000en.gif

I believe the verdict of the court was "not guilty" rather than "innocent".

Also worth noting what the judge said about Terry's defence of 'I was repeating the insult back to ferdinand':

Mr Terry's explanation is, certainly under the cold light of forensic examination, unlikely. It is not the most obvious response. It is sandwiched between other undoubted insults.

Basically - The defence was terrible and it is really a case of lack of evidence than of obvious innocence
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: epsomraver on September 24, 2012, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: os5889 on September 23, 2012, 09:11:10 PM
can't believe Im saying this but I genuinely do have sympathy for John Terry, if he's been cleared by the courts and so has clearly not broken any laws then why should the FA then deem that not good enough for them?

They already ruined his captaincy by stripping him of it due to allegations and now clearly have made him feel he cant go on playing for England.

While we all know he's certainly no saint he hasn't done anything wrong legally!

Are the FA saying the law isn't good enough?

As explained clearly on the radio this morning , he is not being tried for the same offence as the court cleared him of, his admission that he used insulting words and referred to a players skin colour and ethic background is what the FA are charging him with.As an example a radio announcer swears on air and sounds like a racial slur , he goes to court and gets off the racial part but admits the swearing  his radio station would still charge him.
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: stevehawkinslidingtackle on September 24, 2012, 11:17:36 AM
Putting a positive spin on this. Ive heard Wayne Bridge looks set to announce his decision to come out of international retirement. 
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: Lighthouse on September 24, 2012, 11:57:19 AM
Being an England Captain used to mean more than having a toss and a shake at the beginning of the game and not giving a toss after. The fact remains Terry has brought the game and the reputation of the game into the gutter on numerous occasions by his off field antics.

Terry used to play football. Now he plays with the tabloids. The sooner we see the back of this player the better for the game.
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: Vinnieffc on September 24, 2012, 03:40:27 PM
Quote from: ron on September 23, 2012, 08:58:20 PM
With his handling skills, he could still make it in rugby football.

And even better with his team mates girlfriends  :dft012:
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: Matt Inglis on September 24, 2012, 03:47:43 PM
You guys are all blind. England haven't won a single game or even scored a single goal since JT retired, bring him back!
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: Mr_Moon on September 24, 2012, 03:54:58 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on September 23, 2012, 10:48:00 PM
it shouldn't have been his choice. He should have been excluded after the Wayne Bridge thing. Barring that, he should have been excluded after his absolutely horrible performance in the World Cup.

The only disappointment I have with Roy as England's chief is that he kept calling that horror of a human into his squad.

No player had a particularly good World Cup, using Terry as a scapegoat would have been extremely unfair. For what it's worth, he was one of our stand out players at the Euros so it proves that he is still a decent player.

The only player from that 'golden generation' who is consistent and worth keeping in the side is Ashley Cole. Whilst it's going to be refreshing seeing the back of all of them, the lack of young talent that we have at the moment doesn't fill me with hope for the future. Of course it's not all down to the individual players, so I hope (yet hold no expectation) that we'll have a number of decent coaches coming through as well.
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: fulhaman on September 24, 2012, 04:01:08 PM
He is rotten. ut I do believe he plays to his best for England. And also in the bedroom
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: JHaynes Paperboy on September 25, 2012, 12:45:21 PM
I wonder what everybody would be saying if he was a Fulham player.
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: Rupert on September 25, 2012, 01:02:22 PM
Quote from: JHaynes Paperboy on September 25, 2012, 12:45:21 PM
I wonder what everybody would be saying if he was a Fulham player.

I honestly believe that if he was a Fulham player, I would be wishing he was not a Fulham player.
This may be unfair, I do not expect our lot to be saints in their private lives, but I do expect a certain level of civilised behaviour from those I cheer on, and J Terry has constantly fallen well short of those standards.
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: LBNo11 on September 25, 2012, 01:07:21 PM
Quote from: JHaynes Paperboy on September 25, 2012, 12:45:21 PM
I wonder what everybody would be saying if he was a Fulham player.

...they would probably say he would be better suited as a dark side player...
Title: Re: NFR - John Terry retires from international football.
Post by: JHaynes Paperboy on September 25, 2012, 02:26:06 PM
Surely there would be some who would forget his private life and minor on pitch fracas and accept him for his playing ability??
Quote from: LBNo11 on September 25, 2012, 01:07:21 PM
Quote from: JHaynes Paperboy on September 25, 2012, 12:45:21 PM
I wonder what everybody would be saying if he was a Fulham player.

...they would probably say he would be better suited as a dark side player...