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Title: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Lighthouse on December 01, 2012, 02:20:13 PM
Petric,Frei, Dejac all play
Title: Re: Early team news
Post by: Woody99 on December 01, 2012, 02:22:15 PM
Fulham Starting XI v Spurs: Schwarzer; Riether, Hughes, Senderos, Riise; Dejagah, Sidwell, Diarra, Frei; Berbatov, Petric

Fulham bench: Etheridge, Kelly, Baird, Karagounis, Duff, Rodallega and Richardson
Title: Re: Early team news
Post by: Woody99 on December 01, 2012, 02:22:48 PM
Lloris, Naughton, Dawson, Caulker, Vertonghen, Sandro, Dembele, Lennon, Bale, Dempsey & Defoe

Friedel, Walker, Gallas, Carroll, Livermore, Sigurdsson & Falque

decent spurs team.. but not much on the bench
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: the nutflush on December 01, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
I like it. COYW!
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Lighthouse on December 01, 2012, 02:36:30 PM
Love the two wingers but would have played Rodders up front because of the pace. Petric and Berbatov together I am not so sure about. But glad we look to be going for it.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Snibbo on December 01, 2012, 02:39:40 PM
Adventurous team.

Not sure about starting Frei over Duff. Duff is so bloody reliable and consistent. Frei tends to drift in and out, and not give much cover. Prefer him as a late sub. Hope he plays a blinder today.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: mccscratch on December 01, 2012, 02:40:57 PM
Love the two wingers but would have played Rodders up front because of the pace. Petric and Berbatov together I am not so sure about. But glad we look to be going for it.

I have been wanting to continue seeing them work up top... they both have a level of class nobody on our team can duplicate... maybe Duff on the wing for me though but I am sure that is fear of Spurs speed
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Bryanthebroom on December 01, 2012, 02:42:12 PM
Let's hope jol's seen something in training that's made him pick petric - and let's face it he was sublime at times in our last home against Sunderland. Coyw!!
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: ElissonSnygg on December 01, 2012, 02:45:39 PM
Like the team.a lot.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: The King on December 01, 2012, 03:13:41 PM
Have to say I was a bit when Dempsey turned and was about to shoot. Damn you Frei btw.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FFCfan on December 01, 2012, 03:22:24 PM
Not seeing much of the ball!
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: PokerMatt on December 01, 2012, 03:25:59 PM
Petric REALLY needs to be burying that. What a chance!
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 03:27:46 PM
Bale booked for a dive. Why does such a talented player keep diving.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Jimpav on December 01, 2012, 03:29:51 PM
His reputation goes before him now.

On another note am I ignorant for not realising Kelly still played for us?
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on December 01, 2012, 03:30:45 PM
Reither off injured.  That hurts, has been class all season.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on December 01, 2012, 03:36:03 PM
Now Dejegah as well.  And how was that not a foul on Vertongen?  Made no attempt to go for the ball.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Jimpav on December 01, 2012, 03:47:10 PM

Man City 1 - 1 Everton

QPR       1 - 1 Villa

0-0 in all othe other matches so far.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FFCfan on December 01, 2012, 03:48:58 PM
Are we heading for another 0-0 ?
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 01, 2012, 03:49:11 PM
Are we playing away? Only on the counter, that's too little.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: The King on December 01, 2012, 03:49:53 PM
81% of our attacks down the centre.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Ordar on December 01, 2012, 03:51:29 PM
Frei hasnt been in the game at all, and loses the ball so much. I'd have started Richardson.

We usually perform better second half so lets hope that happens again
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Lighthouse on December 01, 2012, 03:52:16 PM
Would like to see us be a bit more of an attacking force. As we said before they are not great at the back. But so far so ok. We know they have great talent to change the game at any time. So keeping them quiet so far has been good.

Sidwell doing a good job again.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FC Silver Fox on December 01, 2012, 03:53:45 PM
Well its there for the taking in the 2nd  half.  Maybe we're being more cagey because of all the goals we've let in over the past month or so. We can win this game.  COYW
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 03:55:05 PM
The goals have really dried up. We must take our chances as you only get so many against top half sides.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: mccscratch on December 01, 2012, 03:56:19 PM
Might help if the home support was singing for the players instead of waiting for Dempsey to get on the ball so they can boo.....

I like Petric and think Gale was being hard him for the effort on goal that went straight into Lloris. I think Duff should come on for Frei...
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Junichi on December 01, 2012, 03:57:11 PM
Such a dire game so far, hopefully the second half will be a little more lively. Such a shame about Riether, would be such a massive blow if he's going to have a prolonged spell on the side-lines.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on December 01, 2012, 03:58:13 PM
Another impressive right back injured against Spurs in winter.  Let's hope it isn't as serious as Grygera.  Although, Kelly's done alright after his first touch.

Overall, not much in it so far really.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FFCfan on December 01, 2012, 03:59:07 PM
Kelly has done well so far. Hopefully we do better 2nd half
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 03:59:18 PM
Is it me or do players seem to go down as if shot more than they used to do. Old ladies barge into me in the supermarket & I dont fall over clutching my face while rolling over 3 times.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: bigalffc on December 01, 2012, 03:59:27 PM
Sidwell putting himself about well, frie not at the races today duff or rodders should come on for him imo
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Count Berbatov on December 01, 2012, 04:02:48 PM
COYW! Fulham to to take control of this one. 3-1
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: mccscratch on December 01, 2012, 04:02:49 PM
Is it me or do players seem to go down as if shot more than they used to do. Old ladies barge into me in the supermarket & I dont fall over clutching my face while rolling over 3 times.


It is disgusting... Makes football almost unwatchable these days.... Bale is a disgrace
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FC Silver Fox on December 01, 2012, 04:03:20 PM
Right, I'm going to make a cup of tea. Who wants one?
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on December 01, 2012, 04:03:58 PM
COYW! Fulham to to take control of this one. 3-1

That's pretty hopeful :P
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: ScalleysDad on December 01, 2012, 04:05:01 PM
Would like to see us be a bit more of an attacking force. As we said before they are not great at the back. But so far so ok. We know they have great talent to change the game at any time. So keeping them quiet so far has been good.

Sidwell doing a good job again.


is the adnettv thread up and running today? i can't find a thing

betcha Sidwell will still get some grief though.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: St Eve on December 01, 2012, 04:07:52 PM
Yes it is
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Ordar on December 01, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
Schwarzer....
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FFCfan on December 01, 2012, 04:14:52 PM
What was that???
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: PokerMatt on December 01, 2012, 04:15:36 PM
I've said this a few times this season.. Why is Schwarzer still our #1?

He's not been good enough even at times last season.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Lighthouse on December 01, 2012, 04:15:46 PM
Tell me again that Swart is a keeper that deserves the no 1 spot still
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on December 01, 2012, 04:15:59 PM
Awful keeping by Mark.  Pathetic.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FFCfan on December 01, 2012, 04:16:19 PM
Its time. Berbs up front and Richardson for Frai!
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 04:16:26 PM
This really is a season of GK cock ups. A keeper should not be beaten from 30 yards.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: St Eve on December 01, 2012, 04:17:11 PM
We will not lose this game
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Junichi on December 01, 2012, 04:17:22 PM
Keep the faith guys. Plenty of time left. COYW!
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: RidgeRider on December 01, 2012, 04:19:39 PM
weak by Frei
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Ordar on December 01, 2012, 04:19:45 PM
Frei has to come off. Not been in the game at all. Given the amount of criticism Rodallega gets playing out of position that side, Frei has been much worse
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on December 01, 2012, 04:19:52 PM
Spurs really haven't been very good today.  If that's the goal that decides the game then it'll be SO disappointing.

Bale being injured isn't bad news though...
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: RidgeRider on December 01, 2012, 04:20:05 PM
Bale down, karma....
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: RidgeRider on December 01, 2012, 04:21:00 PM
there is something not right about us right now....can't put my finger on it....its been there for several weeks
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on December 01, 2012, 04:21:50 PM
Two inverted wingers now, so all width will need to come from the full backs.  Meaning the defence will be more stretched.  I suppose that means Senderos is more likely to be at fault for something!!
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 04:24:33 PM
Bale has now even dived into the shower.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Ordar on December 01, 2012, 04:24:57 PM
We're lacking pace up front to stretch the game. Rod needs to come on
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: sipwell on December 01, 2012, 04:25:51 PM
there is something not right about us right now....can't put my finger on it....its been there for several weeks

Absence of Ruiz, surely. No creativity in midfield and no good passes to Berbatov.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: TheDaddy on December 01, 2012, 04:26:34 PM
No radio no nothing whats going on chaps "stuck at work "
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: sipwell on December 01, 2012, 04:27:42 PM
No radio no nothing whats going on chaps "stuck at work "

0-1. Bad mistake by Schwarzer (shot by Sandro he should gotten). Fulham not really into the game. Berba brilliant though
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 04:28:33 PM
We are playing so much better today but the missed chances could cost us dearly. Come on, get that goal we deserve.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Ordar on December 01, 2012, 04:31:14 PM
Got what we deserve for being so negative
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 04:31:39 PM
Senderos you prat.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on December 01, 2012, 04:32:10 PM
And thats it.  Poor D from Senderos and Kelly.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: SaltfordWhite on December 01, 2012, 04:32:19 PM
Senderos you prat.

Yup.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Jamie88 on December 01, 2012, 04:32:28 PM
Wow, didnt Senderos look world class then..
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: St Eve on December 01, 2012, 04:32:34 PM
That is why you can never play Senderos
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Aaron on December 01, 2012, 04:32:52 PM
Now that I have turned the match off I can start making hot wings earlier than I had planned.   Every cloud has a silver lining!
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: TWFL on December 01, 2012, 04:33:03 PM
there is something not right about us right now....can't put my finger on it....its been there for several weeks

Absence of Ruiz, surely. No creativity in midfield and no good passes to Berbatov.

Exactly. No creativity. We don't look the same without him. 0-2 now. Game over.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on December 01, 2012, 04:34:23 PM
At least we get a Newcastle squad as decimated by injuries as we are next week.  Really need 3 points from that one.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Ordar on December 01, 2012, 04:35:19 PM
Lloris has only had to make 1 save, defending has been awful. Spurs havent needed to be good

Berbatov cant win us games on his own. Him and Petric cant start together, just doesnt work. You can see why Frei didnt start at Cardiff
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Lighthouse on December 01, 2012, 04:35:42 PM
Play Petric and Berbatov together and we just are so blunt up front. We can put balls into the area but never look to get on the end of many of them.

Spuds never looked as if they needed to break into top gear today and our mistakes have made this an easy win when a bit of luck and more penetration may have made us a threat.

But players back next week. So here is hoping we can get back on track.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FFCfan on December 01, 2012, 04:36:03 PM
there is something not right about us right now....can't put my finger on it....its been there for several weeks

Absence of Ruiz, surely. No creativity in midfield and no good passes to Berbatov.

Exactly. No creativity. We don't look the same without him. 0-2 now. Game over.

1 shot on target so far.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Ordar on December 01, 2012, 04:36:10 PM
Our defence is terrible
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: PokerMatt on December 01, 2012, 04:36:59 PM
Ok, I've defended Senderos rigidly until right now... But I've had enough, I can't any more. He is dire.

There, I said it. It's now up to him to prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: RidgeRider on December 01, 2012, 04:37:09 PM
there is something not right about us right now....can't put my finger on it....its been there for several weeks

Absence of Ruiz, surely. No creativity in midfield and no good passes to Berbatov.

Exactly. No creativity. We don't look the same without him. 0-2 now. Game over.

Maybe its that simple. Ruiz was not back long enough to really get things going but we are really not very good in the midfield right now. So much so we should probably just sit back and play Hodgson style of game until we get someone in. Ruiz is not the answer because if he has proved one thing, it is he can't stay healthy. We need someone else. I think he needs to play in a league where its less physical. He is much better that way this year but he is becoming like AJ, we spend tons to get him, and he spends most of his time on the physio table. Lets hope this is his last injury for us.

I think are defensive woes are a function of no support, rather than inadequate players. Why are we to be surprised a giant of a man like Senderos is not a Panther and can be turned inside out by a pacey winger. I don't blame him. Its the high line that is getting us
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on December 01, 2012, 04:37:14 PM
Ugh...
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
Senderos again. Played Defoe onside.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: zander on December 01, 2012, 04:37:41 PM
That is why you can never play Senderos

I've only just started watching the game so cant say how well he's played so far. However even when he's good he has moments that cost games!! As I write he's at it again for the third goal
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on December 01, 2012, 04:38:05 PM
Jesus.  Thank Christ Brede is back next week.  Senderos has been exposed today.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FC Silver Fox on December 01, 2012, 04:38:17 PM
At this stage of the game, its hard to believe that the game will finish   3-3    (I had a dream)
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: ScalleysDad on December 01, 2012, 04:38:44 PM
there is something not right about us right now....can't put my finger on it....its been there for several weeks



Trying to remain objective but today we have the umpteenth starting line up which is then disrupted quite early on with an injury and a reshuffle is required. I have'nt even been able to guess my favoured starting eleven in advance so goodness knows how Jol feels. We could yet have  another starting eleven against Newcastle.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: WORTHINGFULHAM on December 01, 2012, 04:39:15 PM
Senderos just doesnt cut the mustard he was trrible against chelsea also,poor.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Ordar on December 01, 2012, 04:40:17 PM
How many chances have we created in the last 3 games? 3 maybe 4. Just not good enough.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on December 01, 2012, 04:41:12 PM
Senderos just doesnt cut the mustard he was trrible against chelsea also,poor.

He wasn't terrible against Chelsea at all.  This second half however, yeah he has.  Schwarzer's mistake is what ballsed it all up though.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: WORTHINGFULHAM on December 01, 2012, 04:41:34 PM
bring in some creative midfield flair come january, without Ruiz berba doesnt get the service...
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Ordar on December 01, 2012, 04:41:53 PM
7 games without a win
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: WORTHINGFULHAM on December 01, 2012, 04:43:26 PM
in general senderos is poor, he gets found out too many times, he might have a good spell here and there, but sorry hes not good enough and not consistant enough
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: St Eve on December 01, 2012, 04:44:48 PM
Ship Senderos out now. I am afraid that he will have to take Sidwell and Kelly with him and probably Hugo
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on December 01, 2012, 04:45:34 PM
We've really missed Reither overlapping on the attack today as well.  
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 04:45:45 PM
6 shots & only 1 on target says it all. Spurs 10 shots 5 on target
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: SaltfordWhite on December 01, 2012, 04:46:47 PM
Sidwell has done well, I thought, as has Diarra.

They just aren't very creative, and our wingers haven't done their job.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: LordNelson on December 01, 2012, 04:47:30 PM
Ok, I've defended Senderos rigidly until right now... But I've had enough, I can't any more. He is dire.

There, I said it. It's now up to him to prove me wrong.
He's not totally dire--his lapses seem rare just seem to happen at worst possible time.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: St Eve on December 01, 2012, 04:48:11 PM
Sidwell is just not good enough
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 04:50:02 PM
We are getting adrift from top 10 now. Mind you Arsenal are down to 10th.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: LordNelson on December 01, 2012, 04:51:22 PM
Our recent performances should come as no surprise. We have known since beginning of season our midfield is weak spot. Doesn't matter who we have up front if we can't give them proper service.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: MasterHaynes on December 01, 2012, 04:52:28 PM
Its just as well that we aren't chasing a goal to get something, 4 minutes extra time? Bale and Dejagah stopped the game for more than that plus 30 seconds for each substitution I was expecting 7-8 minutes. Still maybe the referee is trying to be merciful and spare us more humiliation.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Luffy86 on December 01, 2012, 04:57:40 PM
Yet another p!ss poor performance, something really needs to change soon and fast.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 04:58:12 PM
We crumbled like the bad old days.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: theotherdembele on December 01, 2012, 05:01:13 PM
I honestly dont care about anyones opinion sidwell, kelly and senderos i wouldnt want them playing for my beloved leyton orient, all 3 are terrible players and should never be anywhere near a premier league side.
I honestly feel sorry for berbatov when i watch him play because we dont deserve a player of his ability, no one around him is anywhere near his level.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Count Berbatov on December 01, 2012, 05:02:19 PM
worst performance this season, so far.
Jol got the wrong team. Dejagah, Petric, Frei, Diara, Schwarzer....poor
Feel sorry for Berba. Sidwell fought...the fullbacks perhaps did ok, but that's it.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: theotherdembele on December 01, 2012, 05:06:21 PM
Theres no point in him fighting if when he gets the ball he has absolutely no touch to do anything with the ball?
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: grandad on December 01, 2012, 05:08:45 PM
I really felt confident until the Schwarzer cock up. It seemed to totally deflate us. I just hope Berba doesn´t fall out of love for us. We must really splash the cash in Jan. The creative midfield is a priority.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Luffy86 on December 01, 2012, 05:10:26 PM
To be honest I actually thought I was watching a Sanchez team with all the sideways and backwards passing then long balls over the top....
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 01, 2012, 05:12:42 PM
I think it's unfair to blame Senderos for the second goal. Sigurdsson should be credited for a great bit of skill. Why isn't Hughes getting blamed for leaving Defoe completely unmarked? The third goal is certainly his fault though. I think it's clear he isn't consistent enough to be a regular fixture, a new centre back is a must.

If anything good could come from this game it would be that Mo will happily get his cheque book out, our weaknesses were there to see. We rely on Ruiz, without him we are blunted. We need cover for him. We also need a partner for Diarra and a good centre back.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 01, 2012, 05:17:10 PM
I really felt confident until the Schwarzer cock up. It seemed to totally deflate us. I just hope Berba doesn´t fall out of love for us. We must really splash the cash in Jan. The creative midfield is a priority.

I was going to make this point. We need to prove our ambition to him. If we don't sign some quality he may think about moving on in the summer. He expects much more from his team mates.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: BedsFFC on December 01, 2012, 05:17:18 PM
How bad did Riether's injury look? I keep reading that Dejagah went off but he didn't appear to.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: theotherdembele on December 01, 2012, 05:25:04 PM
Didnt look that bad to be honest, he was still defending brilliantly while injured. Dejagah fell on his back but he wasn't injured, finished the game.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: PokerMatt on December 01, 2012, 05:26:38 PM
Ok, I've defended Senderos rigidly until right now... But I've had enough, I can't any more. He is dire.

There, I said it. It's now up to him to prove me wrong.
He's not totally dire--his lapses seem rare just seem to happen at worst possible time.

Well he does seem to make more than his fair share. I guess some (like their third) can go down as not being used to playing with a defence that rarely changes personnel, but no, he's not nearly good enough.

Too many times have I picked up when he's done something well in defence of him. I won't any more until he goes at least two games running without doing something shyte.

Hangeland has been woeful at times as well this season, but I'll feel a lot more comfortable when he's back.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: EJL on December 01, 2012, 05:28:14 PM
I thought Sidwell was great until the first goal; don't quite understand some of the criticism.
Title: Re: Team news and Match Thread
Post by: St Eve on December 01, 2012, 08:16:31 PM
Sidwell is never great. He runs and tries but just is not good enough