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Title: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Zu-Meister on December 29, 2012, 02:10:40 PM
STOCKDALE, Riether, Hughes, Hangeland, BRIGGS, Dejagah, Karagounis, Sidwell, FREI, Ruiz, Berbatov.
Title: Re: stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 02:12:10 PM
Apart from Briggs I like this line up a lot. Hats off to Jol for dropping Schwarzer.
Title: Re: stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: rusty shackleford on December 29, 2012, 02:12:53 PM
He must not have dropped him, he's not on the bench. Injured?

We never have the same team 2 times in a row. Its a different looking team ill give him that
Title: Re: stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Northern Cottager on December 29, 2012, 02:14:26 PM
Hopefully will give the former regulars a kick up the arse. Stockdales been due a start for a long time.
Title: Re: stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: cottage cheese on December 29, 2012, 02:14:54 PM
thats part of the problem with Jol. Our team is so unsettled in some cases. Frei for me is not a 90min player yet and should be coming on around 60-65 min to take on tired defences.

Title: Re: stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: rusty shackleford on December 29, 2012, 02:15:38 PM
Its a potentially really exciting team, but also a potentially implode-able team. Should be a good game anyway!
Title: Stockdale & Briggs
Post by: shnlwswlkr on December 29, 2012, 02:15:53 PM
Both int he starting line up!  yee-haw!
Title: Re: stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: SaltfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 02:16:10 PM
I like the idea of Karagounis and Sidders.  
Title: Re: stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: farfouille on December 29, 2012, 02:17:38 PM
I am absolutely delighted with the start-up. We needed changes. I would have kept JAR though...
Title: Re: stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 02:17:54 PM
thats part of the problem with Jol. Our team is so unsettled in some cases. Frei for me is not a 90min player yet and should be coming on around 60-65 min to take on tired defences.



I think it's right to rotate so long as the core of the team is there. Kacaniklic had a poor game so Frei keeps him on his toes, Hughes had struggled so Senderos came in, who in turn was poor so he drops out. Riise has been long due a demotion but I think Jol like me lacked faith in Briggs. Now I guess he's thought Riise's head isn't straight, so may as well play Briggs.
Title: Re: stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mino the Waiter on December 29, 2012, 02:21:00 PM
Please tell me Kasami is on the bench...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Northern Cottager on December 29, 2012, 02:27:31 PM
Please tell me Kasami is on the bench...

 Etheridge, Kelly, Riise, Senderos, Baird, Richardson and Rodallega
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 02:30:03 PM
Please tell me Kasami is on the bench...

 Etheridge, Kelly, Riise, Senderos, Baird, Richardson and Rodallega

So if the midfield fails we can bring on, er, Richardson.  If I was Kasami I would be wanting out in Jan. He was starting in Serie A before he came to us.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Please tell me Kasami is on the bench...

 Etheridge, Kelly, Riise, Senderos, Baird, Richardson and Rodallega

VERY defensive bench. Rodallega and maybe Richardson the only attack minded players. Seems we are playing youngsters today to match up with Swansea's young and pacey side
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Baider on December 29, 2012, 02:32:22 PM
Very happy with this line-up, seems that Jol has finally seen some sense and dropped positions where it was needed
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: grandad on December 29, 2012, 02:33:46 PM
Kasami should have been on the bench. There is no need to have both Senderos & Baird.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Northern Cottager on December 29, 2012, 02:36:17 PM
Lets see how the starting 11 do eh! I cant see it being any worse than the previous few games. W've been woeful and hopefully Jol is assessing all options before the window to see which positions we are in dire need of.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Azeedo on December 29, 2012, 02:37:42 PM
Baird is a different player when Ruiz is around, sometimes is the players you play with
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Jamie88 on December 29, 2012, 02:38:07 PM
what a disgusting looking bench..
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Luffy86 on December 29, 2012, 02:39:12 PM
Very pleased to see changes, just hope they come up trumps!! Not too happy about kasami being nowhere near the team.....!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 02:42:30 PM
Too many defenders on the bench. Kasami should be there for Kelly. Baird can play right back.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: rusty shackleford on December 29, 2012, 02:43:40 PM
I dont get the Kasami-messiah mentality.

If he were good enough, he would be playing
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Northern Cottager on December 29, 2012, 02:44:59 PM
Kasami hasnt set the world alight. Lets just see how we get on first. If we win we'll all of forgot about who was on the bench won't we!

COYW!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 02:50:26 PM
Surprised but relieved that the changes that most of us have been talking about have been made. Sadly it looks like Schwarzer is just an injury. I still think we'll lose today but at least we might keep the ball better without Schwarzer and Baird in the side.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: IranianCottager on December 29, 2012, 02:50:26 PM
Kacaniklic isn't even on the bench, why? Also, same with Schwarzer.
Title: Re: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Count Berbatov on December 29, 2012, 02:53:43 PM
Good line up by Jol. The new boys will want to prove themselves
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 02:53:53 PM
Not happy with the slow forward line without Rodders. We will see.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on December 29, 2012, 02:58:42 PM
Happy with the changes in the line up. Struggling with the bench though - Let's see some heart out there today!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 02:59:14 PM
announcer saying Schwarzer has a neck injury....?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: St Eve on December 29, 2012, 03:00:49 PM
Bench is very weak. Shame Kaca, Duff or Petric aren't fit
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
I dont get the Kasami-messiah mentality.

If he were good enough, he would be playing

He should be on the bench simply because he's an attacking player. Mind you Kacaniklic should be there for Richardson. Who knows what is going on there?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
Swansea kits look like United from a distance
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 03:05:21 PM
Any links?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 03:05:39 PM
Reithers looking lively!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Jimbobob on December 29, 2012, 03:05:47 PM
Swansea kits look like United from a distance

 :dft008: :dft008: :dft008:
Some of these alternate kits are just dumb .... oh well ... C O Y W
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 03:05:58 PM
http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/160726/2/watch-fulham-fc-vs-swansea-city-fc.html (http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/160726/2/watch-fulham-fc-vs-swansea-city-fc.html)
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 03:09:45 PM
Brede's passing is awful
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:10:20 PM
I think Hangeland needs to realize his passing isn't what it once was. Stop with the Hollywood passes every single time.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 03:10:48 PM
close on that one
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ffcbulgaria on December 29, 2012, 03:11:25 PM
Someone explain to me why does Brede hoof the ball into goal kicks for them?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ffcbulgaria on December 29, 2012, 03:13:23 PM
Also so far looks like Karagounis is a midfielder we have always missed - can link up the defence with the forward line and not panic when he recieves the ball :)
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 03:19:21 PM
Oh dear....
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 03:19:37 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 03:19:55 PM
Can we please sign Stekelenburg.....
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ffcbulgaria on December 29, 2012, 03:20:21 PM
Well, can't blame Stockdale
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 03:21:42 PM
Only problem is we just do not have enough bodies in the area when we attack.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: cottage cheese on December 29, 2012, 03:21:52 PM
will people be asking for stockdale to be dropped as well? Does not look confident
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Jimbobob on December 29, 2012, 03:21:59 PM
Can we please sign Stekelenburg.....

Can we please sign somebody??? Feet in concrete around the goal again...this is the same repeating nightmare...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 03:22:14 PM
I wish Berbs would just head the ball or go for a normal shot. fancy flicks are more likely to miss
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: michaelread on December 29, 2012, 03:22:29 PM
Well, can't blame Stockdale

stockdales bad distribution gave them the ball. funny isn't it.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Walsh on December 29, 2012, 03:22:39 PM
1st thing to know as a keeper don't knock it back into the middle, shocking goalkeeping.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: St Eve on December 29, 2012, 03:22:58 PM
We went to sleep for 5 minutes
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 03:23:00 PM
Swansea made 7 changes for this game, their best player isnt playing, and they still look better than us...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: michaelread on December 29, 2012, 03:23:07 PM
will people be asking for stockdale to be dropped as well? Does not look confident

depends, does his passport still say england?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: fluffyninja on December 29, 2012, 03:24:06 PM
This is looking disturbingly like last year against them , they're knocking it about getting more confidence and knackering us out to go in
for the kill in the second half :005:
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:24:12 PM
Well, can't blame Stockdale

I think he should take the blame there, he should've pushed it away from danger.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ffcbulgaria on December 29, 2012, 03:24:38 PM
first i'm sure if you jump to make a save you can always decide where to put the ball... can you actually?

second thing we spoke of last match... surely its only his fault for a poor kick whereas the defence did brilliantly :D
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:25:03 PM
Oh Bryan how we have missed you.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: fluffyninja on December 29, 2012, 03:26:59 PM
Oh Bryan how we have missed you.

Yes Ruiz looking one of the only lively ones !
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:27:33 PM
How good is Riether. First priority next month is to sign him up permanently.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 03:27:49 PM
Does not look confident

OH WONDER
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 03:31:38 PM
How good is Riether. First priority next month is to sign him up permanently.

He is a class act.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:32:19 PM
That shot of Berba was hilarious. Turning up his nose at Sidwell, who wasn't smart enough to anticipate the pass.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:34:08 PM
Wow. Kara is lucky to still be on the pitch. Idiot!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: MisfitKid on December 29, 2012, 03:34:24 PM
How good is Riether. First priority next month is to sign him up permanently.
Amen.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 03:34:37 PM
Oh Karagounis.....those tacklings are just shite.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 03:35:56 PM
We really are a very poor side. Nothing changes but the players. We play at about 95% effort, everyone we play is at 100%. This will be the end of Jol if we lose this match. The players confidence is so low that we won't recover from this anytime soon.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 03:36:54 PM
Aside from the trip, how confident is Briggs looking?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: cottage cheese on December 29, 2012, 03:38:14 PM
how how how has this happened? we are in free fall, 3 points off the bottom three now. Last time we played this bad, Sanchez was sacked...Jol must bewondering the same?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 03:38:38 PM
We do look a very poor side
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 03:38:47 PM
nice shot by Ruiz
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: michaelread on December 29, 2012, 03:39:13 PM
We really are a very poor side. Nothing changes but the players. We play at about 95% effort, everyone we play is at 100%. This will be the end of Jol if we lose this match. The players confidence is so low that we won't recover from this anytime soon.

Jol will revitalise the squad with the january transfer window. this game should be players playing for their jobs. if they dont perform, bring someone else in. simple as that.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: aussierod on December 29, 2012, 03:43:09 PM
Does not look confident

OH WONDER

Thought he won't on loan and got some confidence hence everyone asking for him in goal?

Ruiz is looking good though and it makes a difference with Karagounis and Ruiz looking to get the ball off our CB's, we certainly are looking to keep possession better than usual

Our left hand looks weak though, 2 young fellas trying to keep Dyer quiet, not going too well just yet
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 03:43:38 PM

Jol will revitalise the squad with the january transfer window. this game should be players playing for their jobs. if they dont perform, bring someone else in. simple as that.

Thats if we have money to spend in January and players actually want to join this shambles
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: MisfitKid on December 29, 2012, 03:43:53 PM
We seem to always play down to our opponent.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: michaelread on December 29, 2012, 03:44:29 PM
Does not look confident

OH WONDER

Thought he won't on loan and got some confidence hence everyone asking for him in goal?

Ruiz is looking good though and it makes a difference with Karagounis and Ruiz looking to get the ball off our CB's, we certainly are looking to keep possession better than usual

Our left hand looks weak though, 2 young fellas trying to keep Dyer quiet, not going too well just yet

yeah but if you follow any of frei or briggs social media accounts you would know that they are practically boyfriends and in between sharing kisses on the sideline, theyd probably have their communication sorted out
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 03:46:00 PM
It's normal that the likes of Briggs and Stockdale look a bit rusty, nothing special. I still think they deserve this run-out and even more than that.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 03:47:00 PM
We really are a very poor side. Nothing changes but the players. We play at about 95% effort, everyone we play is at 100%. This will be the end of Jol if we lose this match. The players confidence is so low that we won't recover from this anytime soon.

Jol will revitalise the squad with the january transfer window. this game should be players playing for their jobs. if they dont perform, bring someone else in. simple as that.

For the sake of the club I hope you are right. I'm not sure he'll last that long though.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 03:47:07 PM
Another shambolic first half performance where we created nothing as normal and defended poorly. All this against a side resting 7 first team players including top scorer
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Walsh on December 29, 2012, 03:47:18 PM
what an absolute joke!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: MisfitKid on December 29, 2012, 03:48:11 PM
Meh
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Jamie88 on December 29, 2012, 03:48:27 PM
It's normal that the likes of Briggs and Stockdale look a bit rusty, nothing special. I still think they deserve this run-out and even more than that.

I might be going mad but other than a slightly dodgy header back to Stockdale, I thought Briggs coped very well with all other situations he was involved in
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
Much improved, but still not enough. We are fortunate that Swansea are being pretty unambitious. Ruiz needs more movement, just Berba making runs. Both full backs and wingers need to get forward more quickly. As for Stockdale, play it short boy. Berbatov is losing every 50-50 header.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ffcbulgaria on December 29, 2012, 03:49:44 PM
However compared to last 3 games we look much better. We're now moving around expecting the ball and that creates more opportunities for passing. We've even had more shots than in the previous 2 games combined.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 03:50:35 PM
It's normal that the likes of Briggs and Stockdale look a bit rusty, nothing special. I still think they deserve this run-out and even more than that.

I might be going mad but other than a slightly dodgy header back to Stockdale, I thought Briggs coped very well with all other situations he was involved in
I fully agree. Saved that very poor Hughes header with some mature defending too. Tried to go forward as well. Ruiz had three or four good chances, he's the ray of hope I've got. One or two special moments.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:50:52 PM
Does not look confident

OH WONDER

Thought he won't on loan and got some confidence hence everyone asking for him in goal?

Ruiz is looking good though and it makes a difference with Karagounis and Ruiz looking to get the ball off our CB's, we certainly are looking to keep possession better than usual

Our left hand looks weak though, 2 young fellas trying to keep Dyer quiet, not going too well just yet

yeah but if you follow any of frei or briggs social media accounts you would know that they are practically boyfriends and in between sharing kisses on the sideline, theyd probably have their communication sorted out

Problem is Briggs isn't very quick and his positioning is poor. That's why I think he'll never make it at this level. Having one of his best games so far though. Frei hasn't really been in the game, though he took his chance well.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 03:51:06 PM
Sorry but we did just fine in the first half. Badly need a forward on the pitch. We have no chance to break forward quickly and Berbatov is just not good enough as a loan striker anymore. But plenty of good things. Briggs has done well, Stockdale looks nervy and Karagounis is still a waste of space. Frei done ok and Dejag has played well.

Still hope we can not panic and keep pushing forward and who knows?

Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:52:21 PM
We seem to always play down to our opponent.

Some of us.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 03:53:25 PM
Another shambolic first half performance where we created nothing as normal and defended poorly. All this against a side resting 7 first team players including top scorer

Agreed but we can't beat the worst sides in the Prem at the moment, why should Swansea be any different?

tough decisions lie ahead........
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mino the Waiter on December 29, 2012, 03:54:49 PM
It's just a matter of time really, goals will come....
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 03:55:53 PM
It's normal that the likes of Briggs and Stockdale look a bit rusty, nothing special. I still think they deserve this run-out and even more than that.

I might be going mad but other than a slightly dodgy header back to Stockdale, I thought Briggs coped very well with all other situations he was involved in
I fully agree. Saved that very poor Hughes header with some mature defending too. Tried to go forward as well. Ruiz had three or four good chances, he's the ray of hope I've got. One or two special moments.

Agree. Dyer seems to make Briggs a little nervous but I think he would do the same to any defender. Dega looks really good on the ball, a bit frenetic at times but I can see where with a bit more time he will be good in that spot. Frei looks decent as well.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:57:54 PM
Given we've one win in 11 it's really no surprise we continue to struggle. Confidence is integral. Jol and Hangeland should be doing more to inspire the players though. But let's appreciate that we are much improved today. We've created several chances and are frankly pretty unlucky to be losing.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 03:58:33 PM
It's just a matter of time really, goals will come....

i love your optimism
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 03:59:09 PM
Bring on Rodders for Berbatov and see us rise like phoenix from the ashes.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 03:59:31 PM
Another shambolic first half performance where we created nothing as normal and defended poorly. All this against a side resting 7 first team players including top scorer

Created nothing eh? Berba and Frei came close and Ruiz forced a good save. That's more than Swansea have done apart from the goal.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on December 29, 2012, 03:59:42 PM
We can win this we had more posession, hopefully Jol will say the  right thing at half time  
great to see Briggs playing I hope the lad keeps the spot
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on December 29, 2012, 03:59:50 PM
I see improvements and to be honest all I want to see in second half is alot of heart - I want them to show the fans that they are willing to die out there. If we get points in the process then great.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Jamie88 on December 29, 2012, 03:59:56 PM
It's just a matter of time really, goals will come....

i love your optimism

I have to admit, I'm feeling very optimistic for some reason for this second half...
We looked alot more commited to get forward in the first half, I think Swansea will feel slightly fortunate to go 1-0 up at the break
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Beefy on December 29, 2012, 04:00:08 PM
Let's be first, this first half Fulham has performed well. Let's see what happens in the second.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Jimbobob on December 29, 2012, 04:00:29 PM
We really are a very poor side. Nothing changes but the players. We play at about 95% effort, everyone we play is at 100%. This will be the end of Jol if we lose this match. The players confidence is so low that we won't recover from this anytime soon.

Jol will revitalise the squad with the january transfer window. this game should be players playing for their jobs. if they dont perform, bring someone else in. simple as that.

For the sake of the club I hope you are right. I'm not sure he'll last that long though.

RR - You are all over it and you are generally the voice of positivity so as you have been stating as of late the level of performance is just unacceptable and Jol has to take responsibility - period end of story. Something is rotten in the dressing room. What it is no one seems to know but the lack of effort is just inexcusable... I want us to win this match so bad it hurts but I have zero confidence we will muster a draw...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 04:01:27 PM
Hughes needs to keep a closer eye on Graham. He's very very good off the ball.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: St Eve on December 29, 2012, 04:05:14 PM
New half and we have to win this game
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: cottage cheese on December 29, 2012, 04:07:25 PM
1 point from southampton and swansea is relegation at home. We need to step it up and actually remeber how to win a game
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Jamie88 on December 29, 2012, 04:08:57 PM
ffs!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 04:09:06 PM
Can we please sign Stekelenburg....
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: rusty shackleford on December 29, 2012, 04:09:17 PM
wow didnt see that coming
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on December 29, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
That hurt...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 04:09:39 PM
Unbelievable! Stockdale cost us both goals now. Unbelievable!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ffcbulgaria on December 29, 2012, 04:09:52 PM
so much for Stockdale
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Azeedo on December 29, 2012, 04:09:58 PM
Can You spell RELEGATION
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: BillNRoc on December 29, 2012, 04:10:09 PM
This is exactly what happens to poor teams playing poorly - you don't get away with mistakes.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 04:10:22 PM
We are in massive trouble
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 04:10:30 PM
I cannot watch anymore
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Jimbobob on December 29, 2012, 04:10:42 PM
 :dft002: :dft002: :dft002:
 090.gif 090.gif 090.gif

You have got to be kidding me...really... :bang head:
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: SaltfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:10:47 PM
Great keeping.  Absolutely great.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: sipwell on December 29, 2012, 04:11:07 PM
Ah, the quality of Stockdale.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: cottage cheese on December 29, 2012, 04:11:24 PM
is this team trying to get Jol sacked lol..seriously how can a prem team be so poor?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 04:11:42 PM
Awful Stockdale but then that what comes of having no Fulham first team football.

Oh well we looked really good but keep making these silly mistakes.

Sack em all.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 04:12:00 PM
It's his first Fulham match since 2011 and he's already the scapegoat. HIS FIRST.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on December 29, 2012, 04:12:08 PM
wow, Stockdale directly responsible for both goals.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 04:12:46 PM
We didn't deserve that.  

GOAL.  Had to score straight away and now we can turn it around.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: St Eve on December 29, 2012, 04:12:58 PM
Still time. We are certainly not get any breaks
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: costarican white on December 29, 2012, 04:13:12 PM
a bit of luck at least
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on December 29, 2012, 04:13:25 PM
Ruiz!!! damn we missed you
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 04:13:31 PM
finally.....
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: grandad on December 29, 2012, 04:13:38 PM
A saviour is born. C´mon lads
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Azeedo on December 29, 2012, 04:13:57 PM
 cr flagRuiz is a BEAST
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: BedsFFC on December 29, 2012, 04:14:07 PM
I was about to say, keep the tempo and we can get something...I was, honestly
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 04:14:07 PM
wow, Stockdale directly responsible for both goals.
wow.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 04:14:19 PM
COYW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: SaltfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:14:30 PM
It's his first Fulham match since 2011 and he's already the scapegoat. HIS FIRST.

He was at fault for them both!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: fulhamaustin on December 29, 2012, 04:14:55 PM
It's his first Fulham match since 2011 and he's already the scapegoat. HIS FIRST.

Scapegoat or no scapegoat, it was a mistake to be fair..... (and I've been advocating him to play)
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 04:15:01 PM
All hail Bryan.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: St Eve on December 29, 2012, 04:15:35 PM
YEEEEEES
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 04:15:46 PM
It's his first Fulham match since 2011 and he's already the scapegoat. HIS FIRST.

He was at fault for them both!
ffs, Schwarzer made hundreds of those mistake during this season and he wasn't punished. It's unlucky. He's nervous, eager to impress, possibly doing a little too much. Can't blame him really.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Jamie88 on December 29, 2012, 04:16:23 PM
think we should be looking to take frei off
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: aussierod on December 29, 2012, 04:16:32 PM
We didn't deserve that.  

GOAL.  Had to score straight away and now we can turn it around.

We didnt deserve that? I hope your referring to the goal we conceded? We're all over them at the moment, look far stronger this half

COYW's!!!!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Flupp on December 29, 2012, 04:16:39 PM
Calm down it´s enough time ..... :clap_hands:
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: OxfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:16:45 PM
This kills to watch. We need some belief more than we need new players, but to be honest we need both.

Final product is also poor.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: fulhampa23 on December 29, 2012, 04:16:55 PM
There goes that argument!!!!!!!! Hey Mr Stekelenberg get here as soon as you can!!!!!!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 04:17:00 PM
Frei's body language is really impressive for a 19-year old. He really wants to make things happen, wants every ball in this difficult situation.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: michaelread on December 29, 2012, 04:17:17 PM
It's his first Fulham match since 2011 and he's already the scapegoat. HIS FIRST.

"In modern usage a scapegoat is an individual, group, or country singled out for unmerited negative treatment or blame.[1] A whipping boy or "fall guy" is a form of scapegoat."


So, basically, the singling out of errors was not unmerited as he was mainly responsible for the 2nd, and partly responsible for the first. Thus, not a scapegoat.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: fulhamaustin on December 29, 2012, 04:17:43 PM
It's his first Fulham match since 2011 and he's already the scapegoat. HIS FIRST.

He was at fault for them both!
ffs, Schwarzer made hundreds of those mistake during this season and he wasn't punished. It's unlucky. He's nervous, eager to impress, possibly doing a little too much. Can't blame him really.

I still think Stockdale should be playing ahead of Scwarzer. But you have to admit that it was an error.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 04:17:53 PM
We didn't deserve that.  

GOAL.  Had to score straight away and now we can turn it around.

We didnt deserve that? I hope your referring to the goal we conceded? We're all over them at the moment, look far stronger this half

COYW's!!!!

Obviously.  It was before the Goal comment
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: SaltfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:18:11 PM
I'm not saying he hasn't, all I am saying is that he has made mistakes leading to both goals.  Calm down, dear.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on December 29, 2012, 04:18:21 PM
wow, Berba and Ruiz, but their goalie is playing like a beast. We barely scored and how many saves he pulled.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 04:18:30 PM
Frei's body language is really impressive for a 19-year old. He really wants to make things happen, wants every ball in this difficult situation.

yes, he is the one guy who has given his all during the match
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: fulhamaustin on December 29, 2012, 04:18:43 PM
At least we are giving it a go for the first time in a few games.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: St Eve on December 29, 2012, 04:18:51 PM
Frei made that
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: OxfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:19:23 PM
Dejagah is not my cup of tea at all.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 04:20:30 PM
where was the foul against Frei, he was shoved down from behind?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: aussierod on December 29, 2012, 04:20:58 PM
We didn't deserve that.  

GOAL.  Had to score straight away and now we can turn it around.

We didnt deserve that? I hope your referring to the goal we conceded? We're all over them at the moment, look far stronger this half

COYW's!!!!

Obviously.  It was before the Goal comment

Apologies then :)

Some interesting scores today too btw

Wow, that was close to a 3rd....
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: michaelread on December 29, 2012, 04:21:19 PM
stockdale flapping?! whodathunkit! (me)
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: fulhamaustin on December 29, 2012, 04:21:31 PM
Corr Stockdale is nervous ain't he
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 04:21:42 PM
But you have to admit that it was an error.
I do. Just saying that Schwarzer also made numerous errors during the course of the season.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
Reither player of the season thus far IMO
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 04:23:05 PM
Get Berbatov off for goodness sake.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: rusty shackleford on December 29, 2012, 04:24:49 PM
jesus christ god damn their keeper
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Frei caught that beautifully
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: OxfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:25:44 PM
Frei is better than Dejagah imo. No reason Dejagah should ever play ahead of him.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 04:26:36 PM
I'd like to see another shot of that penalty shout. Inconclusive.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: aussierod on December 29, 2012, 04:26:43 PM
Swansea keeper has played well today to be fair

FFS! :(
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 04:26:50 PM
Berbatov standing offside for gods sake. Get him off.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on December 29, 2012, 04:26:56 PM
WHY BERBA, WHY.  What a mental mistake. Stay onside.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 04:27:07 PM
Frei is better than Dejagah imo. No reason Dejagah should ever play ahead of him.

don't they play on opposite sides most of the time?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 04:27:27 PM
Frei is better than Dejagah imo. No reason Dejagah should ever play ahead of him.

Except for the fact they play in a different position perhaps?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on December 29, 2012, 04:27:56 PM
Get him off? Lighthouse???
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on December 29, 2012, 04:28:05 PM
Reither one of the best buys af all made in the summer window. Pure gem.

There keeper is keeping them in there atm, very good display.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: St Eve on December 29, 2012, 04:28:30 PM
Frei is brilliant
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: OxfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:29:31 PM
I would rather play Richardson than Dejagah
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: aussierod on December 29, 2012, 04:29:45 PM
Reither one of the best buys af all made in the summer window. Pure gem.

There keeper is keeping them in there atm, very good display.

Completely agree, other than we've not bought Reither

Shame out keeper hasn't kept us in it
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 04:29:53 PM
This is good football by us
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Jimbobob on December 29, 2012, 04:29:54 PM
 :022: :022: :022:
Please pull this out!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 04:29:59 PM
Dejagah is doing better than you think.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on December 29, 2012, 04:31:14 PM
this is good football, we have been unlucky...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: OxfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:32:07 PM
PLEASE DON'T PUT RUIZ WIDE RIGHT
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: aussierod on December 29, 2012, 04:32:46 PM
Dejagah is doing better than you think.

I think so too, his link up play with Reither is good down the right

With regards to Frei, every time he comes inside though and is getting closed down.... He really needs to work on his left foot
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 04:32:56 PM
Dejagah is in a Walcott stage. Lots of good footwork but final ball is awful. But he's linked up play well and worked hard. It will come.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: St Eve on December 29, 2012, 04:33:44 PM
I would rather play Richardson than Dejagah
ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 04:34:37 PM
So why bring on Rodders for Dejagh who is doing damage. Berbatov has done nothing should be the one to make way. Be honest he hasn't done much.

Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: IranianCottager on December 29, 2012, 04:35:07 PM
One bad cross and Dejagah sucks?
He looked exhausted. He played 90 mins vs Liverpool last weekend and almost 70 vs Southampton Wednesday.

Sidwell didn't play vs Liverpool, Karagounis came off the bench vs Soton, Ruiz only played 45 mins vs Soton, Frei didn't start vs Liverpool nor on Wednesday, and Berba barely runs. So Dejagah's fatigue shouldn't be a surprise.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on December 29, 2012, 04:35:36 PM
Reither one of the best buys af all made in the summer window. Pure gem.

There keeper is keeping them in there atm, very good display.

Completely agree, other than we've not bought Reither


Yea that is true but if we have any iq then he will be the first announcement in january.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Jamie88 on December 29, 2012, 04:35:57 PM
I really dont know why we're playing a wide game, NONE of our players can ever win a header...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: BedsFFC on December 29, 2012, 04:36:20 PM
Can't tell if Ruiz gone right
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: MisfitKid on December 29, 2012, 04:36:38 PM
I would have preferred them playing this way in the first half...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: St Eve on December 29, 2012, 04:36:55 PM
Dejagh played well
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 04:38:10 PM
Get the Greek off.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Azeedo on December 29, 2012, 04:38:27 PM
Rodallega is a waste of a sub
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 04:38:50 PM
So why bring on Rodders for Dejagh who is doing damage. Berbatov has done nothing should be the one to make way. Be honest he hasn't done much.



What c**p.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 04:38:55 PM
Much better second half, but too many errors have cost us this game
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Nick the Swede on December 29, 2012, 04:38:59 PM
I would rather play Richardson than Dejagah

I'll have a double of what ever you are drinking/smoking ;)


-"Oh when the Whites!"
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: cottage cheese on December 29, 2012, 04:41:11 PM
wba away next and they are taking the game to united from what the pundits are saying....0 points from that. A point today is not good enough.
Something drastic has to happen to get this team out of the slump..1 win in 11 thats qpr form and we all laugh at them
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 04:41:45 PM
hmmm.  Sticking Hangers up like this is desperate, never thought I'd see that under Jol.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: SaltfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
Whatever the result, we've played well today and that hasn't happened in a long time.  A couple of schoolboy mistakes have cost us dear, but that's what happens when you are on a bad run.

I like the Kara/Sidwell midfield duo, they compliment one another much more than Baird/ Sidders.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on December 29, 2012, 04:42:23 PM
that bad Dejagah cross deprived us of a certain goal. we had 2 people there.  and Lighthouse, watch our attacks, everything is Ruiz and Berba.  all the crisp passing, all the vision.  Reither is playing well as well.  I do agree Berba made a mental mistake and did not keep onside.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 04:42:36 PM
So why bring on Rodders for Dejagh who is doing damage. Berbatov has done nothing should be the one to make way. Be honest he hasn't done much.



What c**p.

Berbatov has done nothing - Missed a chance in the first half and done nothing. People love Berbatov but when you are in a scrap he isn't the player to have on your side.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: rusty shackleford on December 29, 2012, 04:43:02 PM
1 point is not enough
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 04:43:34 PM
So why bring on Rodders for Dejagh who is doing damage. Berbatov has done nothing should be the one to make way. Be honest he hasn't done much.

So you'd honest have taken him off given he is the only player with a goalscoring record in our side?


What c**p.

Berbatov has done nothing - Missed a chance in the first half and done nothing. People love Berbatov but when you are in a scrap he isn't the player to have on your side.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 04:43:57 PM
that bad Dejagah cross deprived us of a certain goal. we had 2 people there.  and Lighthouse, watch our attacks, everything is Ruiz and Berba.  all the crisp passing, all the vision.  Reither is playing well as well.  I do agree Berba made a mental mistake and did not keep onside.

Which are slow and predictable. Gives Swansea time to defend.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: OxfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:44:33 PM
I would rather play Richardson than Dejagah

I'll have a double of what ever you are drinking/smoking ;)


-"Oh when the Whites!"

I have considered my views and decided I am deluded. It is a side effect of watching this match.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: aussierod on December 29, 2012, 04:45:37 PM
1 point is not enough

1 point if we're lucky....
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: cottage cheese on December 29, 2012, 04:45:47 PM
who is going to want to come to fulham in Jan? seriously the likes of stoke and norwich all are more appealing at the moment in the fact they win games..
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: fulhampa23 on December 29, 2012, 04:45:53 PM
They finished, we haven't, and that is all that matters
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: costarican white on December 29, 2012, 04:46:15 PM
To send Hangeland up front is a proof od how short our bench is
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 04:46:39 PM
Whatever the result, we've played well today and that hasn't happened in a long time.  A couple of schoolboy mistakes have cost us dear, but that's what happens when you are on a bad run.

I like the Kara/Sidwell midfield duo, they compliment one another much more than Baird/ Sidders.

Just don't think we've played that well, especially in the first half.  Deserved to lose? No but that is what happens when you have no belief.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: OxfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:47:10 PM
Sidwell has been immense today. So much energy. Such good reading of the play.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Flupp on December 29, 2012, 04:48:00 PM
I wish that would be game 38 and we can go for a good OFFSEASON !!!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: rusty shackleford on December 29, 2012, 04:48:57 PM
1 point from 2 must win games then

great
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JHunter_Fulham4Life on December 29, 2012, 04:49:07 PM
I'll take 1 point over 0 points, but ti's not looking great right now.  090.gif

Paging Mr. Hughes... Paging Mr. MARK Hughes...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 04:49:54 PM
Performance improved though
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 04:50:07 PM
Sidwell has been immense today. So much energy. Such good reading of the play.

if we had had diarra as well...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: SaltfordWhite on December 29, 2012, 04:50:20 PM
The second half was better, agreed.  But really, Swansea haven't had much of a sight of goal at all.

I can certainly take positives from this performance compared to recent efforts, and I think that others should try to as well.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on December 29, 2012, 04:51:49 PM
i mean , we completely outplayed them.  Just no luck at all. Since Hageland's red card and Ruiz injury, it has been a string of misfortunes.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
Completely undeserved today. I'd like to see that penalty shout again. Berbatov was disappointing I must admit. As for Stockdale, what a howler.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ElissonSnygg on December 29, 2012, 04:52:38 PM
Frustrating to watch those games, tired of this

Stockdale worst ive seen
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: IranianCottager on December 29, 2012, 04:53:04 PM
Note how Fulham's right-side was non-existant after Dejagah's subbing...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 04:53:08 PM
I felt Karagounis was an important addition, offers much more going forward than Baird.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JustOverTheRiver on December 29, 2012, 04:53:15 PM
It is good to be positive, getting behind the lads is essential, but my god this is starting to become depressing.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Ordar on December 29, 2012, 04:53:23 PM
that makes it 1 win in 12. We HAVE to beat WBA and Wigan in January in my opinion. Only 3 points off the relegation places now

Performance was much better second half Karagounis kept the ball much better than Baird has been. Ruiz and Frei were lively. Reither mom as normal
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: aussierod on December 29, 2012, 04:53:30 PM
Performance improved though

Agreed. Much better performance, finally showed some heart, passion and intensity but the boys will be even more deflated after that. A win is surely coming though. Keep the faith
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: BillNRoc on December 29, 2012, 04:53:41 PM
For all that, it's still the result that counts. Now one win in 12, this team is just not good enough.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Luffy86 on December 29, 2012, 04:53:52 PM
Positives..... It was a tiny bit better than watching an Ian Branfoot team.....
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on December 29, 2012, 04:54:06 PM
If we had got 3 points and played like garbage I would be more worried than 0 points and the good 2. half we displayed.
We should have got atleast 1 point but their golie can take the credit.

But if we can carry our play from second half into the next line of games and with a few signings in january then we should secure our place in the league for next season.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JHunter_Fulham4Life on December 29, 2012, 04:54:17 PM
The second half was better, agreed.  But really, Swansea haven't had much of a sight of goal at all.

I can certainly take positives from this performance compared to recent efforts, and I think that others should try to as well.

Positives, yes. We're more aggressive in front of goal in the second half. But if we don't make the net bulge, it's all flash, no cash. We should have come away with 3 points here, and we haven't. The End.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 04:54:37 PM
Well poor keeping lost us that match and puts an end to the hope that  Stockdale could be our number one. We are short of a forward and a midfielder but Berbatov looks pretty but is no player for the scrap. Really sad because we deserved more from the match.

Looks grim sadly.

However the effort was there but too slow to go forward again.

Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: PokerMatt on December 29, 2012, 04:54:55 PM
At the moment I'm in the 'I only give a sh*t about points' camp. One point from those two home games isn't close to good enough.

We're in huge trouble.

I'm always on the optimistic side than the other one, but with 23 shots you should be scoring more than one goal. Might have played better but same story. I can't see our next win.

Too many Saturdays have been ruined by this rabble this season. I'm sick of it.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Aaron on December 29, 2012, 04:55:00 PM
Looking on the bright side next season we get Millwall and Nottingham Forest away..  We will probably also still have a West London derby with QPR too.  Every cloud has a silver lining!
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 29, 2012, 04:55:12 PM
this team is just not good enough.

We knew that in September. Well, I did anyway.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: IranianCottager on December 29, 2012, 04:55:19 PM
Frei had probably his best game in Fulham, he was ok in the first-half but did well in the second.
Just wait for the next game if he doesn't perform as good as today, everyone here will want him off the team, lol.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RidgeRider on December 29, 2012, 04:55:31 PM
Note how Fulham's right-side was non-existant after Dejagah's subbing...

Dega is one of our current scapegoat's. You'll find mixed opinions on him. I thought he did fine today. We just lack a shedload of confidence.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: fulhamaustin on December 29, 2012, 04:55:38 PM
We were massively in the ascendancy and the subs kind of changed that. But we had no depth on the bench whatsoever.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: PokerMatt on December 29, 2012, 04:56:34 PM
If we had got 3 points and played like garbage I would be more worried than 0 points and the good 2. half we displayed.
We should have got atleast 1 point but their golie can take the credit.

But if we can carry our play from second half into the next line of games and with a few signings in january then we should secure our place in the league for next season.

Really? I find that hard to believe.

It's a points based game and it's points more than performances that build morale in a team.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 04:56:57 PM
For all that, it's still the result that counts. Now one win in 12, this team is just not good enough.

Not really much difference from the team put out at Arsenal is it?  What has changed is that they now lack belief.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JHunter_Fulham4Life on December 29, 2012, 04:57:29 PM
If we had got 3 points and played like garbage I would be more worried than 0 points and the good 2. half we displayed.
We should have got atleast 1 point but their golie can take the credit.

But if we can carry our play from second half into the next line of games and with a few signings in january then we should secure our place in the league for next season.

From your mouth to God's ears. MAF does need to loosen the purse strings, if only to give us a bench again. But as much as I love Martin, I think we need to hit the Reset button.

I repeat: Paging Mr. Hughes... paging Mr. MARK Hughes...
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 04:58:03 PM
Oh and some odd subs again by Jol. Didn't help us by taking the wide players off. Really odd.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 04:58:24 PM
We were massively in the ascendancy and the subs kind of changed that. But we had no depth on the bench whatsoever.

We did.  I found it a bizarre bench to have.  However sticking Hangers up there said it all and made us worse.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: CanadianCottager on December 29, 2012, 04:59:19 PM
I for one cannot wait to see Sinan Bolat in a green Fulham jersey, Schwarzer has been consistently shaky, and Stockdale cost us the game today without a shadow of a doubt
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: hongkongfulham on December 29, 2012, 04:59:46 PM
bring on the relegation battle
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: JHunter_Fulham4Life on December 29, 2012, 05:00:12 PM
Looking on the bright side next season we get Millwall and Nottingham Forest away..  We will probably also still have a West London derby with QPR too.  Every cloud has a silver lining!
Let's not go there -- not yet, anyway. We've done Great Escapes before, and with new talent in January, we can do it again... I hope.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: ..Kya.ffc.. on December 29, 2012, 05:01:42 PM
If we had got 3 points and played like garbage I would be more worried than 0 points and the good 2. half we displayed.
We should have got atleast 1 point but their golie can take the credit.

But if we can carry our play from second half into the next line of games and with a few signings in january then we should secure our place in the league for next season.

Really? I find that hard to believe.

It's a points based game and it's points more than performances that build morale in a team.

Well you do have a point. Points would have been wonderful and well needed, but as I stated earlier all I wanted to see was heart, and that they where willing to die out there in the second half. They did not display  the "I don't give a sh*t attitude* so tbh. Im optimistic. With the chance we created then yes we should have got points but their golie coulden't have had a better game.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mino the Waiter on December 29, 2012, 05:04:59 PM
Ruiz cannot play wide, how long will Jol take to realise this?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on December 29, 2012, 05:07:39 PM
Lighthouse, when you say Berba is no player for the scrap, 2 season ago, when Rooney threw his toy off the pram and went on strike, Man Utd were 5 points behind Chelsea, and Berba put them 5 points ahead by the time Rooney was back.  He can be there for the scrap, Jol needs to motivate him more and even bench him.  Berba played very well today, but made a HUUUGGEEEE MENTAL error, when he did not stay onside during the disallowed goal.  Had he stayed 2 steps back, he still would have scored.  But it has happened to every striker on the planet.  Just unlucky.  Berba and Ruiz combination is good.  Now, Arsenal want to get rid of Arshavin who wants to stay in London to be close to both his kids and his mistress, so... I think we need to go for him.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 05:07:55 PM
I really thought we'd get at least 4 points from these two games and could start to look upwards.  The reality is we are on the fringe of a relegation fight.  

Plus sides? a somewhat improved performance and Ruiz.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: PokerMatt on December 29, 2012, 05:08:26 PM
If we had got 3 points and played like garbage I would be more worried than 0 points and the good 2. half we displayed.
We should have got atleast 1 point but their golie can take the credit.

But if we can carry our play from second half into the next line of games and with a few signings in january then we should secure our place in the league for next season.

Really? I find that hard to believe.

It's a points based game and it's points more than performances that build morale in a team.

Well you do have a point. Points would have been wonderful and well needed, but as I stated earlier all I wanted to see was heart, and that they where willing to die out there in the second half. They did not display  the "I don't give a sh*t attitude* so tbh. Im optimistic. With the chance we created then yes we should have got points but their golie coulden't have had a better game.

Yeah fair enough, I see what you're saying. Just my point of view it's at the point I don't care how well we play as long as we take points. I'd honestly take a few Pulis rugby wins than pretty defeats right now.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: itombomb on December 29, 2012, 05:09:25 PM
I've been defending Jol, but I have no idea what those substitutions were.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: kennethwong20 on December 29, 2012, 05:09:36 PM
does anyone know why Kaca didn't play today?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on December 29, 2012, 05:10:05 PM
Anyone who says Berba can't play in a relegation fight should have a good look at the seasons highlights. He is passionate, hard working and demanding. He wants to win and he is not a luxury player, he puts his heart and soul into his performances as much as any other player. Today was one of his poorer games.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 05:10:13 PM
Looking on the bright side next season we get Millwall and Nottingham Forest away..  We will probably also still have a West London derby with QPR too.  Every cloud has a silver lining!

and Brentford if they get promoted.  Even if we really do get into the scrap I can't see us finishing behind 3 of QPR, Wigan, Reading, Southampton or Villa.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: itombomb on December 29, 2012, 05:10:45 PM
Sidwell has been immense today. So much energy. Such good reading of the play.
Yet he is still far too slow and gave the ball away loads.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: RoyTund on December 29, 2012, 05:11:32 PM
Anyone who says Berba can't play in a relegation fight should have a good look at the seasons highlights. He is passionate, hard working and demanding. He wants to win and he is not a luxury player, he puts his heart and soul into his performances as much as any other player. Today was one of his poorer games.

no way we cannot play Berbatov - short memories!  Especially true if Petric is injured.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Mino the Waiter on December 29, 2012, 05:12:12 PM
does anyone know why Kaca didn't play today?
I'm guessing tiredness?
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Lighthouse on December 29, 2012, 05:16:25 PM
Lighthouse, when you say Berba is no player for the scrap, 2 season ago, when Rooney threw his toy off the pram and went on strike, Man Utd were 5 points behind Chelsea, and Berba put them 5 points ahead by the time Rooney was back.  He can be there for the scrap, Jol needs to motivate him more and even bench him.  Berba played very well today, but made a HUUUGGEEEE MENTAL error, when he did not stay onside during the disallowed goal.  Had he stayed 2 steps back, he still would have scored.  But it has happened to every striker on the planet.  Just unlucky.  Berba and Ruiz combination is good.  Now, Arsenal want to get rid of Arshavin who wants to stay in London to be close to both his kids and his mistress, so... I think we need to go for him.

I wouldn't disagree with the Berbatov points. But just feel at this point in the Prem we need a scrapper and not a poser. Berbatov had much better players around him at Utd. He seems incapable of fighting for a poor pass while being too idle in his own play. A great player yes but we need a scrapper.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on December 29, 2012, 05:26:35 PM
Lighthouse, certainly there are such traits, but the guy also wants to win. So I reckon he will be more motivated now.  He was pressing opposing players today, something I had not seen him do in Fulham shirt before, so the desire and motivation are getting there.  On another topic, still think our luck has been abysmal.  I think we will win big against Blackpool as they will get at then end of the whopping stick, so I hope that changes our fortunes in the league as well.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: grandad on December 29, 2012, 05:50:35 PM
We were massively in the ascendancy and the subs kind of changed that. But we had no depth on the bench whatsoever.

We did.  I found it a bizarre bench to have.  However sticking Hangers up there said it all and made us worse.

In the days of old it was quite common to send the centre half up front. John Dempsey, Bobby Keetch, & Roy Bentley did on many occasions.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: grandad on December 29, 2012, 05:58:09 PM
Stats give us 60% possession, 22 shots, 13 on target. A big improvement over recent games. But for 2 GK howlers we should have ran out comfortable winners.
Title: Re: Match thread vs. Swansea - stockdale starts, as do briggs, and frei
Post by: Denver Fulham on December 29, 2012, 06:21:12 PM
I understand our options are limited at the moment, but Berbatov, Rodellega and Ruiz can't all play at once. (At least) one of them is totally out of position and pretty much useless to the cause.