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Title: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Burt on January 12, 2013, 10:17:52 AM
COME ON YOU WHITES!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Burt on January 12, 2013, 10:20:50 AM
Preview from Steve Bower, BBC:


TEAM NEWS
Fulham's Mahamadou Diarra (knee) and Kerim Frei (pelvis) are both unavailable because of injury. But Mladen Petric, Damien Duff, Mark Schwarzer and John Arne Riise should all return after missing last weekend's 1-1 FA Cup draw with Blackpool.

Roger Espinoza awaits his Wigan debut, and Angelo Henriquez could start as Arouna Kone is on international duty.
The quintet of Antolin Alcaraz, Adrian Lopez, Ben Watson, Albert Crusat and Ryo Miyaichi remain sidelined.

MATCH PREVIEW
This match provides Fulham with an opportunity to build on an encouraging start to the year and record back-to-back wins in the Premier League for the first time since September. I watched their victory at West Brom on New Year's Day, which was both deserved and much needed. Once again you left with the conclusion that if Dimitar Berbatov is in the mood then Fulham are a handful. The Bulgarian has so much quality and seems to inspire others around him. He has a manager who has worked with him before and knows how to bring the best out of him. A team with Berbatov playing regularly should not have relegation concerns, but before that victory at the Hawthorns their run of just one win in 12 league games had left them only four points above the drop zone. Now they need to push on again and will be desperate to record a league double against Wigan given they face both Manchesters in the coming weeks.
Traditionally, Craven Cottage has been a difficult place for visiting teams to pick up points but Fulham's home form has dipped slightly in the current campaign. They have already been beaten four times on their own turf, matching their tally of defeats last season.

I witnessed their win at the DW stadium back in September but Wigan are often more dangerous on their travels. Teams seem to attack them more at home, meaning the Latics tend to create more opportunities as the visiting team. They've already won more games on the road than at the DW this season, just as they did in the last campaign when six away victories were the foundation of another 'Great Escape'. They do have more of a goal threat this season, but they have to tighten up at the back and stop conceding the opening goal. Form would point to Fulham but with Wigan you just never know.

MATCH FACTS
Head-to-head
•Wigan won two of their first three Premier League games against Fulham but since then they have gone 12 matches without a win against the Whites (D6, L6).
•Fulham have won five of their last six games against Wigan.

Fulham
•The win at West Brom on New Year's Day means Fulham have the chance to record back-to-back Premier League wins for the first time since September 2012. Coincidentally, those two victories came against West Brom and then Wigan.
•Martin Jol's men have kept one clean sheet in their last 14 league and cup games.
•Jol has never lost a Premier League match as manager against Wigan (W5, D2). The only team he has has recorded more victories against is Manchester City (6).
•Dimitar Berbatov has scored eight goals in 11 Premier League games against Wigan. The only club he has netted more against is Blackburn (nine).
•Fulham's substitutes have contributed eight league goals this term, more than any other top-flight side.

Wigan Athletic
•The Latics have won more league games away from home (three) than at the DW Stadium (two) this season.
•Wigan have conceded the opening goal in 14 Premier League games this season, losing 13 of those matches.
•They have lost six of their last eight league games.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Burt on January 12, 2013, 11:03:37 AM
Right... I'm off... Here's to 3 points y'all  :clap_hands: 082.gif
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: JIMMY D on January 12, 2013, 11:05:41 AM
I'm like so excited about today's game. This is going to be a great 3 points.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: malcbridger on January 12, 2013, 11:52:32 AM
A few 'interesting' ditties regarding todays game



Fulham have hit the target with a higher percentage of their shots than any other team in the top flight this season (50%).

Fulham substitutes have netted eight goals this season, more than any other team.

Ali Al-Habsi has been debited with more errors leading to goal than any other Premier League player this season (5).

Wigan have scored the lowest proportion of goals in the 15 minutes leading up to half-time (5%) and the highest proportion in the 15 minutes after the break (36%) of any team in the leagu
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: cebu on January 12, 2013, 12:33:05 PM
A few 'interesting' ditties regarding todays game



Fulham have hit the target with a higher percentage of their shots than any other team in the top flight this season (50%).

Fulham substitutes have netted eight goals this season, more than any other team.

Ali Al-Habsi has been debited with more errors leading to goal than any other Premier League player this season (5).

Wigan have scored the lowest proportion of goals in the 15 minutes leading up to half-time (5%) and the highest proportion in the 15 minutes after the break (36%) of any team in the leagu

That last stat makes me think that Martinez must give a pretty good half time team talk.
Let's hope Jol's is better!  COYWs 
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: malcbridger on January 12, 2013, 12:46:38 PM
Absolutely I thought the 'subs' stat was interesting. COYW!! 3-0 today.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: sipwell on January 12, 2013, 12:52:30 PM
But the chickens... they got me spoked!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Walsh on January 12, 2013, 01:29:18 PM
huge game today! :)
Title: Re: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Count Berbatov on January 12, 2013, 01:59:47 PM
Lineups?
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on January 12, 2013, 02:12:23 PM
Ruiz in centre midfield and Richardson starting left back

Schwarzer
Riether Hughes Hangeland Richardson
Duff Ruiz Karagounis Kacaniklic
Petric Berbs
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on January 12, 2013, 02:14:35 PM
Bench:
Stockdale
Baird
Kasami
Senderos
Dejagah
Rodallega
Riise
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: grandad on January 12, 2013, 02:18:18 PM
Yet another new starting lineup. Looks good on paper but so does every starting lineup we have used.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: The King on January 12, 2013, 02:20:13 PM
Wigan: Al Habsi, McCarthy, Caldwell, Jones, Di Santo, Maloney, McArthur, Boyce, Ramis, Beausejour, Figueroa
Subs: Pollitt, Stam, Golobart, Gomez, McManaman, Boselli, Henriquez
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: grandad on January 12, 2013, 02:49:22 PM
The lineup on the clubs matchday site looks weird. Hangers at RB Richardson Right Central Defender, Hughes left
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Snibbo on January 12, 2013, 02:49:27 PM
Surprised at that.

Briggs not even on the bench.
Petric preferred to Rodders against Rodders old club.
Kasami back into the fold.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: FC Silver Fox on January 12, 2013, 02:57:53 PM
Hello to all. Surprised to see that Briggs isn't even in the squad.  Richardson at left back?  hmmmm

Nice to see Petric up front.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: FFCfan on January 12, 2013, 02:58:36 PM
And even MAF is on the pitch
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on January 12, 2013, 03:05:27 PM
Karagounis is occasionally incredibly dramatic when fouled.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: FFCfan on January 12, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
Karagounis is occasionally incredibly dramatic when fouled.

always
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on January 12, 2013, 03:06:20 PM
Holy balls what a miss.  Not very good defensively then.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: St Eve on January 12, 2013, 03:07:39 PM
They just walked past Richardson
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: FFCfan on January 12, 2013, 03:10:32 PM
petric plays as an out and out striker
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Azeedo on January 12, 2013, 03:12:29 PM
Petric is not creative and Ruiz is not Defensive, I hope we don't get murder by experimenting
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: fulhampa23 on January 12, 2013, 03:14:00 PM
Bryan looks out of his depth. The other CM should be covering for him, but Kara likes to push forward. The middle will be exposed. Bryan and Sidwell would be interesting.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Walsh on January 12, 2013, 03:19:02 PM
Bryan doesn't like to get stuck in and is a bit lazy with his tracking.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Aaron on January 12, 2013, 03:20:20 PM
We don't look very good.

Schwarzer's injury didn't help his distribution either.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: grandad on January 12, 2013, 03:20:27 PM
Schwarzer´s kicking is still poor. Nearly set it up for Wigan.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Aaron on January 12, 2013, 03:24:59 PM
What a goal Kara.. What a goal.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: St Eve on January 12, 2013, 03:26:44 PM
Oh yes
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: cebu on January 12, 2013, 03:27:20 PM
What a great shot!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Jimbobob on January 12, 2013, 03:27:35 PM
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Brilliant goal yeah baby yeah!!!
Karagounis is on fire!!!!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Jamie88 on January 12, 2013, 03:28:08 PM
Quality! Enjoying his football more and more each and every week!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on January 12, 2013, 03:28:19 PM
The Greek is en fuego!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Walsh on January 12, 2013, 03:29:08 PM
I wish Karagounis was younger!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on January 12, 2013, 03:29:17 PM
Bryan come on that was silly
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 03:30:50 PM
Three times Ruiz has been robbed, a better team would have punished us.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Walsh on January 12, 2013, 03:31:15 PM
Bryan has been abysmal so far!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Azeedo on January 12, 2013, 03:32:32 PM
I think Petric out Bairdino in move Bryan to the front.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on January 12, 2013, 03:32:46 PM
Bryan has been abysmal so far!

Looks a bit lost in centre midfield but I'm willing to give him time, just needs to not dawdle on the ball in our half.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: St Eve on January 12, 2013, 03:33:16 PM
I wish Karagounis was younger!
I wish I was younger!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on January 12, 2013, 03:35:10 PM
I wish Karagounis was younger!
I wish I was younger!

I wish I was a younger Karagounis :(
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on January 12, 2013, 03:37:35 PM
That was some nice play then, between Reither/Petric/Ruiz.  More please!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 03:37:50 PM
Ruiza coudda died.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Admin on January 12, 2013, 03:37:58 PM
I wish Karagounis was younger!
I wish I was younger!

I wish I was a younger Karagounis :(

I wonder if Kargounis wishes he was younger?
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: grandad on January 12, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
We really need a 2nd. One is never enough for us these days.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Luffy86 on January 12, 2013, 03:39:06 PM
It's as loud as a library today at the cottage...
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Azeedo on January 12, 2013, 03:39:45 PM
Why are these idiots taking the Free kicks when Ruiz is the man
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on January 12, 2013, 03:40:17 PM
I wish Karagounis was younger!
I wish I was younger!

I wish I was a younger Karagounis :(

I wonder if Kargounis wishes he was younger?

If it meant he could re-spend a decade of his life in Athens and Milan, I'd imagine he may be tempted.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on January 12, 2013, 03:42:13 PM
Really not been impressed with Duff so far, hasn't really offered much.  Ruiz hasn't been great either, but playing out of position isn't really helping.

The MF isn't really imposing enough like this.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Admin on January 12, 2013, 03:44:22 PM
Really not been impressed with Duff so far, hasn't really offered much.  Ruiz hasn't been great either, but playing out of position isn't really helping.

The MF isn't really imposing enough like this.

Unfortunately it's another makeshift midfield. Ruiz is never going to be comfortable playing there and I fear Duff is still rusty, however he normally pops up with goal when we say that so here's hoping!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Jamie88 on January 12, 2013, 03:44:41 PM
Richardson has been dire yet again..
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: fulhampa23 on January 12, 2013, 03:45:19 PM
Really not been impressed with Duff so far, hasn't really offered much.  Ruiz hasn't been great either, but playing out of position isn't really helping.

The MF isn't really imposing enough like this.

Given his return from injury maybe Dejagah should have started and Duff come in at 70-75 min, then start with Duff up at Blackpool.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Luffy86 on January 12, 2013, 03:46:14 PM
We seem to give the ball away far too easily, we do the hard work of winning the ball and then fail when it counts. However I like Ruiz in the middle we create a few more chances, he just needs to strengthen up a bit!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Luffy86 on January 12, 2013, 03:48:55 PM
Richardson has been dire yet again..
He's hardly been dire, he's made a reasonable account of himself. His shooting has been woeful.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 03:49:39 PM
It is a very good thing our opposition is Wigan.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on January 12, 2013, 03:50:06 PM
Richardson looks much more comfortable at left back than left midfield IMO, had a decent game so far.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Azeedo on January 12, 2013, 03:50:35 PM
Yes Richardson is not the worse
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mr_Moon on January 12, 2013, 03:51:38 PM
Defensively we're pretty poor as there's no cover from the midfield. Both sides seem really stretched so I imagine there will be more goals to come.

We're going to be taken to the cleaners against City.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Jamie88 on January 12, 2013, 03:52:22 PM
Maybe dire is over the top, but put it like this, I feel no better seeing him as a left back than I did when he has played in midfield on the left or in the centre..
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Lighthouse on January 12, 2013, 03:52:48 PM
Hardly convincing is it?

 Ruiz keeps giving the ball away and Petric must have touched the ball no more than 5 times. Very nervy still as we are likely to concede so somehow need to get another goal.


Lovely goal but when will we score a sloppy one?

Still plenty of questions and few answers in that first half. Hope we step it up and Wigan stop playing the neat football.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
Mixed feelings though mostly good. We've missed the defensive midfielder at times, with our midfield pairing leaving our defence vulnerable. I think if we could sign a quick centre back to partner Hughes or Hangeland we'd be able to play a much more attacking strategy, as it stands both are too slow to handle the lack of protection.

Offensively we've looked good in the approach play, I feel we could turn them over potentially. Petric has surprised me today, working much harder than he has done before and his link up play has been top notch. If we can get Berba and Duff more into the game we'll score again.

We need to score again soon.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Admin on January 12, 2013, 03:54:45 PM
Hardly convincing is it?

 Ruiz keeps giving the ball away and Petric must have touched the ball no more than 5 times. Very nervy still as we are likely to concede so somehow need to get another goal.


Lovely goal but when will we score a sloppy one?

Still plenty of questions and few answers in that first half. Hope we step it up and Wigan stop playing the neat football.


Fingers crossed, we're nearly always better in the 2nd half of games.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: elgreenio on January 12, 2013, 03:55:00 PM
Richardson been perfectly fine minus one touch and clearance (anybody is capable of miss-hitting a free kick). More worried by the midfield, Kaca has forgotten how to beat his man, Duff looks rusty as you'd expect and we've nullified Ruiz by dropping him into the centre. Dejagah for Duff please
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 03:55:07 PM
Hardly convincing is it?

 Ruiz keeps giving the ball away and Petric must have touched the ball no more than 5 times. Very nervy still as we are likely to concede so somehow need to get another goal.


Lovely goal but when will we score a sloppy one?

Still plenty of questions and few answers in that first half. Hope we step it up and Wigan stop playing the neat football.


Petric has played really well and certainly has touched the ball far more than 5 times. Agree about Ruiz, he's not used to playing so deep, he's taking too many risks inside his own half. It's understandable though, that's just his game.
Title: Re: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Count Berbatov on January 12, 2013, 03:56:19 PM
Richardson is an absolute waste of space. Awful at pretty much everything. From first touch and decision making to the final pass.
Duff has an off day. Petric, you can tell misses playing time.
Ruiz and Berba, different class. Good link up. Their skill level is above anyone else in the pitch. Orgasmic to watch them play.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mr_Moon on January 12, 2013, 03:57:45 PM
Plan of action for 2nd half

1) Score
2) Bring on Baird for balance
3) ?????????
4) WIN
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on January 12, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
Oh boy! If we keep giving the ball away like we do we are going to get stuffed.
We have enough players out there capable of making the ball do the work, why do we make it so hard for ourselves?
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: St Eve on January 12, 2013, 04:00:18 PM
Well we need a second goal quickly. Duff and Petric have been quiet. Richardson fails to impress again
Title: Re: Re: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Count Berbatov on January 12, 2013, 04:00:50 PM
Plan of action for 2nd half

1) Score
2) Bring on Baird for balance
3) ?????????
4) WIN

3) take off Richardson. Put on whoever else. Calm the ball down
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: JIMMY D on January 12, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
We look like we could be down by 2 goals at the half. But still we are 1 up. No shots from Ruiz!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:02:12 PM
Richardson's doing okay, no worse than Briggs or Riise.
Title: Re: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Snibbo on January 12, 2013, 04:02:22 PM
Richardson is an absolute waste of space. Awful at pretty much everything. From first touch and decision making to the final pass.
Duff has an off day. Petric, you can tell misses playing time.
Ruiz and Berba, different class. Good link up. Their skill level is above anyone else in the pitch. Orgasmic to watch them play.
Funny, (based on a dodgy stream admittedly) but I thought Richardson has done ok. Looks confident and up for it.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on January 12, 2013, 04:02:44 PM
to be honest ideal scenario is Ruiz looks at home in centre midfield because it would then allow us to play our two best players and a proper number 9 so to speak. It's not been perfect so far, Ruiz looks far too weak to play in there and looks a bit lost positionally. Needs to be a bit more sensible in our own half but it's got some potential to work.

But if it's not working I hope Jol doesn't hesitate to change it if we need more stability in central midfield in the second half.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:02:51 PM
Plan of action for 2nd half

1) Score
2) Bring on Baird for balance
3) ?????????
4) WIN

Who would you take off for Baird?
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: elgreenio on January 12, 2013, 04:03:07 PM
Richardson is an absolute waste of space. Awful at pretty much everything. From first touch and decision making to the final pass.
Duff has an off day. Petric, you can tell misses playing time.
Ruiz and Berba, different class. Good link up. Their skill level is above anyone else in the pitch. Orgasmic to watch them play.

bit of some rose tinted specs there? Ruiz has been caught in possession a bit and Berba hasn't exactly set the place alight today. Will always be those who can do nothing wrong I guess. Ruiz 3 unsuccessful dribbles and 5 failed passes.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:05:13 PM
For me Petric has done reasonably well, linked play really well, just needs to get in the box more often.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Walsh on January 12, 2013, 04:05:29 PM
http://s177.beta.photobucket.com/user/walsheh/media/goal1_zpsfa542868.mp4.html (http://s177.beta.photobucket.com/user/walsheh/media/goal1_zpsfa542868.mp4.html)

Karagounis goal.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mr_Moon on January 12, 2013, 04:05:36 PM

Who would you take off for Baird?

Petric/Berba and then move Ruiz forward.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Count Berbatov on January 12, 2013, 04:06:16 PM
Richardson is an absolute waste of space. Awful at pretty much everything. From first touch and decision making to the final pass.
Duff has an off day. Petric, you can tell misses playing time.
Ruiz and Berba, different class. Good link up. Their skill level is above anyone else in the pitch. Orgasmic to watch them play.

bit of some rose tinted specs there? Ruiz has been caught in possession a bit and Berba hasn't exactly set the place alight today. Will always be those who can do nothing wrong I guess

I didn't say Brian did no wrong. But his skills are there to see.
Berba did no wrong indeed
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on January 12, 2013, 04:06:44 PM
one more thing, in the second half don't watch Richardson thinking he's Richardson. Treat him as if he was Briggs playing in there because he's not been bad today and I think some people are just used to using him as their whipping boy.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:15:04 PM
Dejagah for Duff. He's not really been in the game today.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: St Eve on January 12, 2013, 04:16:04 PM
We are struggling
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 04:17:14 PM
Richardson did great there, this is really awful.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: mangoputney on January 12, 2013, 04:17:39 PM
just turned on

headless chickens again
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on January 12, 2013, 04:21:24 PM
Once again Riether is far and away the best player on the pitch for us.  Please sign him up soon!  I hope we option the move now instead of waiting for summer.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: mangoputney on January 12, 2013, 04:21:49 PM
commentator

'he's going to have to make changes the wigan manager'

what game is he watching????

other than the greek, empty midfield, lazy front line and hangers... continued season facepalm
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on January 12, 2013, 04:21:54 PM
why has Bryan been taken off free kick duty?
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: fulhampa23 on January 12, 2013, 04:22:49 PM
Bryan is the ONLY one who can hit the target, as he has on numerous occasions (not all goals but still), and he should take every one!!!!!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: rusty shackleford on January 12, 2013, 04:23:17 PM
this is utter poo
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Admin on January 12, 2013, 04:23:42 PM
why has Bryan been taken off free kick duty?

Because he's playing deeper I suppose. If he moves up to take the free kicks we could be exposed in the middle.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:24:03 PM

Who would you take off for Baird?

Petric/Berba and then move Ruiz forward.

On for Petric.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: St Eve on January 12, 2013, 04:24:30 PM
Changes now or we are going to give this away
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: fulhampa23 on January 12, 2013, 04:24:43 PM
Hey Clattenberg you have a whistle for a reason!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: grandad on January 12, 2013, 04:25:40 PM
We have got to stop giving the ball away. They are all at it. Rodders now on for Petric.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: fulhampa23 on January 12, 2013, 04:25:53 PM
Hugo on, he will probably take the next free kick and blast it against the wall.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 04:26:54 PM
Ruiz is wasted having to sit deeper.

He's a no.10 and he's better in that role than Berba.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: mangoputney on January 12, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
Ruiz is wasted having to sit deeper.

He's a no.10 and he's better in that role than Berba.

sssshhhh

dont say that too loud
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:27:45 PM
Duff is invisible, get on Dejagah for a bit of energy.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:28:14 PM
Ruiz is wasted having to sit deeper.

He's a no.10 and he's better in that role than Berba.

True. Berba is a number 9, just look at his shirt.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 04:30:39 PM
Richardson hasn't played badly but he is technically a very average player.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: rusty shackleford on January 12, 2013, 04:31:51 PM
what a surprise useless clowns
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 04:32:17 PM
Been coming.

Have to take Duff off, he gave the ball away that lead to that.

Very poor by Reither and Hughes.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:32:24 PM
For goodness sake. Why hasn't Dejagah come on and Baird?
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mr_Moon on January 12, 2013, 04:32:50 PM
More than deserved.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: grandad on January 12, 2013, 04:32:57 PM
Awful,just awful. Only ourselves to blame .
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: God The Mechanic on January 12, 2013, 04:33:14 PM
Ugh.  Great strike mind.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Jimbobob on January 12, 2013, 04:33:35 PM
 fp.gif fp.gif fp.gif
I'm out ---
                more mediocrity that gives mediocrity a bad name....we suck ass.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: zzamora on January 12, 2013, 04:33:44 PM
This has been a dire performance.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on January 12, 2013, 04:33:52 PM
I give up! school boy errors.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: St Eve on January 12, 2013, 04:34:11 PM
Well it was coming
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Aaron on January 12, 2013, 04:34:20 PM
Richardson has looked alright and Riether good again.

Ruiz wasted where he is, most of the rest of the team have been pretty anonymous / average.

Shitty performance.  We'll be lucky to get a point.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 04:35:21 PM
I'm not down on Jol like others, but his subs are consistently terrible.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Azeedo on January 12, 2013, 04:35:27 PM
anyone really surprise we are playing our best player out position.........
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: grandad on January 12, 2013, 04:35:34 PM
A side full of talent & we can´t keep or pass the ball.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Admin on January 12, 2013, 04:35:42 PM
Continue as we mean to go on. This is really, really poor, why oh why oh why did we not address the middfield situation as soon as that window opened. I honestly can't take any more..
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:35:50 PM
Baird for Berbatov, Dejagah for Duff.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:38:08 PM
I'm not down on Jol like others, but his subs are consistently terrible.

Or lack of substitutions.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Admin on January 12, 2013, 04:40:32 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, I think it's safe to say that if this scoreline stays the same or get worse, we are in a relegation scrap.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 04:42:27 PM
Ruiz to the flank where he will do nothing, great.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:42:39 PM
Did Dejagah sleep with Jol's wife or something?
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mr_Moon on January 12, 2013, 04:42:46 PM
Pathetic Jol. Really Pathetic.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Azeedo on January 12, 2013, 04:42:53 PM
about time Jol baird in
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 04:44:25 PM
We need signings so badly.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Luffy86 on January 12, 2013, 04:45:13 PM
We look like a team going down!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: grandad on January 12, 2013, 04:45:37 PM
We are getting worse & worse. What the hell is going on?
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on January 12, 2013, 04:45:50 PM
This is sickening.  What do we work on during training?  Do we just watch movies?  We obviously don't train.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: mangoputney on January 12, 2013, 04:45:57 PM
the new stand curse
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 04:46:09 PM
If Senderos had put in Hughes' performance today people would be going mental.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Admin on January 12, 2013, 04:46:16 PM
We need signings so badly.

To little to late. Winable games are slipping away from us now and I honestly think we are in relegation battle.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mr_Moon on January 12, 2013, 04:48:25 PM
Set pieces have been atrocious today too.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: mangoputney on January 12, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
We need signings so badly.

To little to late. Winable games are slipping away from us now and I honestly think we are in relegation battle.

i was brave enough to call that months ago, got slated, but the signs were obvious as hell

every team seems to want it more, we are without doubt the easiest team to pressure

FFC and Villa dark horses to go down... one of us def in 18th
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:50:24 PM
We need signings so badly.

To little to late. Winable games are slipping away from us now and I honestly think we are in relegation battle.

Exactly. The board has let us down badly. Our lack of central midfielder's has cost us today.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Oakeshott on January 12, 2013, 04:50:54 PM
And yet many still believe Jol is a good coach who will take the Club forward!

Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:51:23 PM
Jol has let us down today. He needed to act to stop the rot and he didn't. Waiting until the last ten minutes to sort out our midfield is pathetic and Dejagah should've come on about half an hour earlier.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: FulhamPHX on January 12, 2013, 04:52:15 PM
And yet many still believe Jol is a good coach who will take the Club forward!



I'm starting to waver on that.  He just seems to have no grasp of strategy. 
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: premFlem on January 12, 2013, 04:52:36 PM
This is sickening.  What do we work on during training?  Do we just watch movies?  We obviously don't train.
Funny thats exactly what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on January 12, 2013, 04:52:50 PM
Its a very sad state of affairs when the only player who looks like a result means anything to him is a veteran player on a short contract.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Luffy86 on January 12, 2013, 04:52:50 PM
Set pieces have been atrocious today too.
Everything has been atrocious in my opinion! I can't remember us creating any decent chances...?
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: St Eve on January 12, 2013, 04:52:51 PM
Time for a late winner by us
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Luffy86 on January 12, 2013, 04:53:57 PM
Even if we get a late winner, it doesn't make up for these gutless performances week in' week out'!!
Title: Re: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Count Berbatov on January 12, 2013, 04:54:58 PM
I wonder what Jol is saying to the team before the game.
Or is it something else. Such a mediocre display by all. Tired perhaps?
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Lighthouse on January 12, 2013, 04:55:17 PM
Saints winning, Reading win from two goals down.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Berbasilk_111 on January 12, 2013, 04:57:11 PM
Jol is useless, almost every player in that pitch looks a shadow of who they are in terms of ability
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: grandad on January 12, 2013, 04:57:26 PM
You can´t blame Jol all the time. He can only do with the players he has. Most of them are so assured of their places as they know there is little competition. The board are at fault over the last few years for not strengthening our squad. Come on Mo. give Jol the tools & he will do the job.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Fulham_Surrey on January 12, 2013, 04:58:44 PM
we sucked badly.  Clattenburg showed again that he is the worst referee in the league.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 04:59:50 PM
Poor, very very poor. Jol was far too stubborn today. He tried something out and it didn't work and he was far too stubborn to change things. In retrospect the Wigan goal shouldn't have stood but it's no less than they deserve.
We need signings NOW. Jol can't do what he wants to with this set of players.
Title: Re: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Count Berbatov on January 12, 2013, 05:00:00 PM
Well deserved Wigan.

Fulham are in a mini crisis.

Good luck hope it doesn't last long
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Enter the Frei on January 12, 2013, 05:00:43 PM
awful second half, Riether for their goal has to do better and get tighter to Di Santo. Berbs went missing today, Ruiz was wasteful in possession and it didn't work with him in centre midfield at all.

One bright point was Richardson, much better today and was one of the better performances we've had from a left back this season.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: CanadianCottager on January 12, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
Christ almighty... Not sure what the idea was today. Petric was awful, Ruiz was completely wasted in the midfield, Duff disappeared completely after the first 15 minutes, Hughes of all people was just plain terrible, and to think I woke up early Saturday morning for this...
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: supersimmo123 on January 12, 2013, 05:01:46 PM
Curbishley in!  :hook:
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 05:02:03 PM
If there's a bright side I thought Richardson looked pretty good at left back and Karagounis was a beast out there. He did what Dembele used to do, make lots of runs from deep to drive us forward.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: hongkongfulham on January 12, 2013, 05:02:19 PM
This is sickening.  What do we work on during training?  Do we just watch movies?  We obviously don't train.
Funny thats exactly what I was thinking.

Im very depressed but this actually made me giggle
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 05:03:26 PM
You can´t blame Jol all the time. He can only do with the players he has. Most of them are so assured of their places as they know there is little competition. The board are at fault over the last few years for not strengthening our squad. Come on Mo. give Jol the tools & he will do the job.
I don't disagree with you that we have to rely on some very poor players, but still Jol's use of the bench is consistently terrible.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: cebu on January 12, 2013, 05:03:55 PM
We really missed Sidwell in midfield - the commitment and energy!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Snibbo on January 12, 2013, 05:05:17 PM
Yes, Richardson the only bright spot. Looked pretty good at LB.
Schwarzer some good saves, but continues to consistently punt the ball straight to the opposition.
Hughes ok but muscled off the ball a few times and could have cost us.
Hangers is a shadow of his former self.
Rodders did nothing right in his short appearance.
Baird continued his crap form.
Duff and Riether seemed to forget how to combine.
Berb did little
Ruiz lost the ball far too often.
Kara ok in patches.
Kaca not ready for the first team.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: itombomb on January 12, 2013, 05:05:26 PM
If there's a bright side I thought Richardson looked pretty good at left back and Karagounis was a beast out there. He did what Dembele used to do, make lots of runs from deep to drive us forward.
He was nowhere without the ball though, consistently out of position with Ruiz, leaving huge amounts of space between midfield and defences.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 05:06:45 PM
We really missed Sidwell in midfield - the commitment and energy!

Well more for just the ability to win a tackle.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Berbasilk_111 on January 12, 2013, 05:06:51 PM
Off the line clearance?? Can someone tell me about it? I didn't see
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Danny on January 12, 2013, 05:07:18 PM
the new stand curse

I am afraid ...You are right......
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: supersimmo123 on January 12, 2013, 05:07:52 PM
What we need in Jan: GK, CB, CM x2, LM, RM, ST.

What we will get: Under 18 nipper, CM Who is away at the African Cup of Nations.

Ridiculous, I understand the financial situation but surely if we continue like this then we are in danger of losing £60 mil TV rights next season?

Is Jol the right man in all seriousness?
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Black, White and Fred on January 12, 2013, 05:08:00 PM
Poor showing today, but started brightly. 12 fouls 1 yellow, no protection today...  WE ARE HEADING FOR TROUBLE!
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: St Eve on January 12, 2013, 05:08:11 PM
awful second half, Riether for their goal has to do better and get tighter to Di Santo. Berbs went missing today, Ruiz was wasteful in possession and it didn't work with him in centre midfield at all.

One bright point was Richardson, much better today and was one of the better performances we've had from a left back this season.
Richardson was no worse than anyone today but he is not a long term option
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on January 12, 2013, 05:08:24 PM
Do we have a team that has not got good enough players? I don't think so.
Do we suffer from lacking a couple of good players in vital positions? Yes.
Is that a valid excuse for the poor performances of late? No.
Poor attitude. Poor effort. Poor decision making. Poor skill level. Poor tactics. Poor team work. Poor camaraderie. Poor concentration.
POOR TEAM.
                       :046:
  
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 05:08:31 PM
If there's a bright side I thought Richardson looked pretty good at left back and Karagounis was a beast out there. He did what Dembele used to do, make lots of runs from deep to drive us forward.
He was nowhere without the ball though, consistently out of position with Ruiz, leaving huge amounts of space between midfield and defences.

That's because he isn't a defensive midfielder. His driving runs were key to all of our attacks.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mr_Moon on January 12, 2013, 05:08:39 PM
Off the line clearance?? Can someone tell me about it? I didn't see

We were poo. That's all you need to know.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Mitrovic the warrior on January 12, 2013, 05:09:41 PM
Off the line clearance?? Can someone tell me about it? I didn't see

Ruiz had a shot and Figueroa made an amazing clearance with a diving header.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Lighthouse on January 12, 2013, 05:10:42 PM
Same old same old. People who keep telling me what great players Ruiz and Berbatov are need to understand that surround Gold with rubbish even gold looks like rubbish after a time.

Still all this was preventable but the club decided to keep the dosh and rely on tomorrow.

So today we have a poor side and a poor manager who has no idea what to do with them.

It has been a long time that in so many games Fulham just haven't turned up.

This isn't Fulham with spirit but a pale washed out pretender. No longer worthy of a place in the Prem on the play we have had to watch for most of the season.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Black, White and Fred on January 12, 2013, 05:11:02 PM
Oh did like Richardson at LB, best we have seen from him
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: St Eve on January 12, 2013, 05:13:46 PM
Yes, Richardson the only bright spot. Looked pretty good at LB.
Schwarzer some good saves, but continues to consistently punt the ball straight to the opposition.
Hughes ok but muscled off the ball a few times and could have cost us.
Hangers is a shadow of his former self.
Rodders did nothing right in his short appearance.
Yes, Richardson the only bright spot. Looked pretty good at LB.
Schwarzer some good saves, but continues to consistently punt the ball straight to the opposition.
Hughes ok but muscled off the ball a few times and could have cost us.
Hangers is a shadow of his former self.
Rodders did nothing right in his short appearance.
Baird continued his crap form.
Duff and Riether seemed to forget how to combine.
Berb did little
Ruiz lost the ball far too often.
Kara ok in patches.
Kaca not ready for the first team.
Yes, Richardson the only bright spot. Looked pretty good at LB.
Schwarzer some good saves, but continues to consistently punt the ball straight to the opposition.
Hughes ok but muscled off the ball a few times and could have cost us.
Hangers is a shadow of his former self.
Rodders did nothing right in his short appearance.
Baird continued his crap form.
Duff and Riether seemed to forget how to combine.
Berb did little
Ruiz lost the ball far too often.
Kara ok in patches.
Kaca not ready for the first team.
Baird continued his crap form.
Duff and Riether seemed to forget how to combine.
Berb did little
Ruiz lost the ball far too often.
Kara ok in patches.
Kaca not ready for the first team.
Richardson is not good enough, Kaca should be in the starting 11 every week, Schwarzer is still out first choice, Kara was good, Duff and Rodders were terrible, Berb was asleep, Ruiz was out of position, Reither, H and H were solid
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: mangoputney on January 12, 2013, 05:17:08 PM
Same old same old. People who keep telling me what great players Ruiz and Berbatov are need to understand that surround Gold with rubbish even gold looks like rubbish after a time.

Still all this was preventable but the club decided to keep the dosh and rely on tomorrow.

So today we have a poor side and a poor manager who has no idea what to do with them.

It has been a long time that in so many games Fulham just haven't turned up.

This isn't Fulham with spirit but a pale washed out pretender. No longer worthy of a place in the Prem on the play we have had to watch for most of the season.

+ 1

the gamble aint gonna pay off, gonna lose a massive chunk of prem money, have a threadbare squad and a building site that we'll struggle to fill
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: ElissonSnygg on January 12, 2013, 05:22:59 PM
Karagounis our best player by miles.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: theotherdembele on January 12, 2013, 06:05:47 PM
Riether was excellent, Ruiz should never be a CM just let Di Santo go passed him, Berba worst game i've seen from him in a fulham shirt, richardson not good enough and hangeland just hasn't been at it all season.

This is the worst Fulham team i've seen in a long time, no spirit, no passion and a bunch of has-beens.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Bedford White on January 12, 2013, 06:20:21 PM
Games like today's should be bread and butter for Fulham. It seems that we no longer have the ability to dictate play to even the lowliest of opposition. Our failur to take all 3 points in this match and those against Reading, Southampton, QPR will be our downfall this season. It's hard to retain any degree of optimism while having to endure 90 minutes of tripe each week.

Time for a serious re think Mr Jol
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: ron on January 12, 2013, 07:45:44 PM
Just got back from the game . I'm bitterly disappointed with the performance of Berbatov, who seemed to be sulking for the whole game. I'm even more disappointed with the lack of movement when we had the ball throughout. For my money Richardson had his best game for us in that unusual position, and beyond that and a few touches from Karagounis there was little to warm a chill afternoon.

There was a spell midway into the second half when we couldn't get anywhere near the ball and were running around like headless chickens with Wigan dictating the play without trying.  Possibly a result of a dressing room dispute during half time, or the issuance of tactical instructions that just weren't understood?

With the crowd giving the quality of play the bird, and droves of supporters leaving before the final whistle with MAF in attendance I wonder just how long MJ has got to turn this nose dive in fortunes   around? I would not be surprised to see that MAFs patience has worn thin, and a major development in the coming week.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: St Eve on January 12, 2013, 07:50:03 PM
Just got back from the game . I'm bitterly disappointed with the performance of Berbatov, who seemed to be sulking for the whole game. I'm even more disappointed with the lack of movement when we had the ball throughout. For my money Richardson had his best game for us in that unusual position, and beyond that and a few touches from Karagounis there was little to warm a chill afternoon.

There was a spell midway into the second half when we couldn't get anywhere near the ball and were running around like headless chickens with Wigan dictating the play without trying.  Possibly a result of a dressing room dispute during half time, or the issuance of tactical instructions that just weren't understood?

With the crowd giving the quality of play the bird, and droves of supporters leaving before the final whistle with MAF in attendance I wonder just how long MJ has got to turn this nose dive in fortunes   around? I would not be surprised to see that MAFs patience has worn thin, and a major development in the coming week.
If you are intimating that jol will be sacked not a hope. He needs to spend the 15 million we got from D & D to improve the squad
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: ron on January 12, 2013, 08:05:35 PM
Certainly the lack of Ray Lewington in the background to pick up the pieces strengthens MJs position, but then as I've mentioned in another thread, it may well be the absence of Lew that is being noticed in the lack of teamwork or understanding on the pitch......

...or by way of complete speculation, a breakdown in the dressing room spirit in the same style as the alleged problems when a certain Zamora was with us.
Title: Re: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: MJG on January 12, 2013, 08:07:42 PM
First time today I got the feeling something is wrong in the dressingroom. Can't put my finger on it, but whenever I see a team play like we did in the last 30 mins you can tell something is not right.
Seen it before in the dark days, team with no spirit or passion.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: cebu on January 12, 2013, 08:34:23 PM
I don't know if anyone else took the time to watch QPR v Spurs, but you could see the home team was technically inferior to Spurs, but they were well organized and very committed - and they got the result they were aiming for.

I'd like to see that level of commitment return to our team - the 2 previous managers were able to get it most of the time. I hope Jol can take a leaf out of Hodgson's book (I'm not suggesting a return to the Hodgson style of play) and get the squad up for it on a regular basis, not just once in a while.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: Rudolph on January 12, 2013, 08:50:34 PM
Yes, Richardson the only bright spot. Looked pretty good at LB.
Schwarzer some good saves, but continues to consistently punt the ball straight to the opposition.
Hughes ok but muscled off the ball a few times and could have cost us.
Hangers is a shadow of his former self.
Rodders did nothing right in his short appearance.
Yes, Richardson the only bright spot. Looked pretty good at LB.
Schwarzer some good saves, but continues to consistently punt the ball straight to the opposition.
Hughes ok but muscled off the ball a few times and could have cost us.
Hangers is a shadow of his former self.
Rodders did nothing right in his short appearance.
Baird continued his crap form.
Duff and Riether seemed to forget how to combine.
Berb did little
Ruiz lost the ball far too often.
Kara ok in patches.
Kaca not ready for the first team.
Yes, Richardson the only bright spot. Looked pretty good at LB.
Schwarzer some good saves, but continues to consistently punt the ball straight to the opposition.
Hughes ok but muscled off the ball a few times and could have cost us.
Hangers is a shadow of his former self.
Rodders did nothing right in his short appearance.
Baird continued his crap form.
Duff and Riether seemed to forget how to combine.
Berb did little
Ruiz lost the ball far too often.
Kara ok in patches.
Kaca not ready for the first team.
Baird continued his crap form.
Duff and Riether seemed to forget how to combine.
Berb did little
Ruiz lost the ball far too often.
Kara ok in patches.
Kaca not ready for the first team.
Richardson is not good enough, Kaca should be in the starting 11 every week, Schwarzer is still out first choice, Kara was good, Duff and Rodders were terrible, Berb was asleep, Ruiz was out of position, Reither, H and H were solid

Did you actually go the game?  Richardson did well, Hughes was not solid and was bundled off the ball on a few occasions, Kaca offered nothing and Dejagah created more when called upon.  Your other points are hard to argue though.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: mangoputney on January 12, 2013, 10:19:16 PM
Games like today's should be bread and butter for Fulham. It seems that we no longer have the ability to dictate play to even the lowliest of opposition. Our failur to take all 3 points in this match and those against Reading, Southampton, QPR will be our downfall this season. It's hard to retain any degree of optimism while having to endure 90 minutes of tripe each week.

Time for a serious re think Mr Jol


+1
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: mangoputney on January 12, 2013, 10:21:40 PM
I don't know if anyone else took the time to watch QPR v Spurs, but you could see the home team was technically inferior to Spurs, but they were well organized and very committed - and they got the result they were aiming for.

I'd like to see that level of commitment return to our team - the 2 previous managers were able to get it most of the time. I hope Jol can take a leaf out of Hodgson's book (I'm not suggesting a return to the Hodgson style of play) and get the squad up for it on a regular basis, not just once in a while.

Fact

Are form brings us into the race for 18th with QPR Villa & Wigan

Least they have a system
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: ron on January 12, 2013, 11:51:15 PM
Off the line clearance?? Can someone tell me about it? I didn't see

Ruiz had a shot and Figueroa made an amazing clearance with a diving header.

...just to set the record straight, I was sitting in line with the direction of the shot, and unfortunately I have to report that it was going wide anyway.
Title: Re: Fulham v Wigan matchday thread
Post by: PokerMatt on January 13, 2013, 12:40:08 AM
Games like today's should be bread and butter for Fulham. It seems that we no longer have the ability to dictate play to even the lowliest of opposition. Our failur to take all 3 points in this match and those against Reading, Southampton, QPR will be our downfall this season. It's hard to retain any degree of optimism while having to endure 90 minutes of tripe each week.

Time for a serious re think Mr Jol


+1

When has anything ever been "bread and butter" for us? Every season we get done at home by fodder on occasion and get a shock win away and this will continue.